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Hi,
Does anybody knows what is the bulk/size difference between the 2 cases?
same with trident aegis.
I bought my bro the commuter, but the store didnt have the defender to feel.
I think that the commuter is slick and nice, and hope the the defender is doing so as well.
Thanks!
BADtoBONE said:
Hi,
Does anybody knows what is the bulk/size difference between the 2 cases?
same with trident aegis.
I bought my bro the commuter, but the store didnt have the defender to feel.
I think that the commuter is slick and nice, and hope the the defender is doing so as well.
Thanks!
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I have the defender case and I love it. It does add bulk to the phone. It actually makes the phone look huge, but I love it. It feels save and secure. I feel like if I were to drop my phone 5 feet down onto concrete, my phone would be fine. If you like the slick feel of the commuter, then I suggest you stay with that case. :good:
I have the commuter and I have to say that I love it and after dropping my phone from shoulder height which is prob around 5 ft high I can honestly say that this case does a great job protecting the phone.
A second thought is that there are cases like the commuter series that have a stand clip. Which is great if your going to use your phone as a media device. my sister just got the casemate pop which looks awesome.
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ergibson83 said:
I have the defender case and I love it. It does add bulk to the phone. It actually makes the phone look huge, but I love it. It feels save and secure. I feel like if I were to drop my phone 5 feet down onto concrete, my phone would be fine. If you like the slick feel of the commuter, then I suggest you stay with that case. :good:
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I use a generic very bulky case right now.
I dont care about thickness, and i ment slickness - i like the feel of the material in the commuter.
anyway, what is the size difference between them?
The size difference is not much. I have both cases. I am no longer using the Commuter case because the back is hard plastic and very slippery. The button plastic is very hard. I use the Defender case now because the silicone cover give me a better gripe and buttons are easy to press.
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Thanks, thats basically the answer i was looking for.
what is you opinion regarding the plastic screen protector compared to a sticker?
It's not bad, it will probably protect it better but isn't optically as good as a high end shield.
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contradude said:
It's not bad, it will probably protect it better but isn't optically as good as a high end shield.
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such as?
zagg shields are the typical goto screen protector.... There are cheaper ones, but you typically get what you pay for.
Commuter: 5.61 in x 3.10 in x 0.56 in / 142.5 mm x 78.84 mm x 14.28 mm
Defender: 5.88 in x 3.47 in x 1.41 in / 148.84 mm x 88.14 mm x 35.81 mm
Hey badtobone. I'll give you my experiences with the cases i've bought and the zagg shield cover i purchased. At first i had a tpu case with the zagg shield and the corners started coming up where the tpu case would rub on it. Scratch that idea. Then i bought the casemate phantom. The screen protector for the case pops on the front of the phone and then you cram the phone inside the outer shell of the case. Snapped the screen protector part putting the phone in the case one day and to boot the case is huge compared to the defender series but it was on backorder of course and i couldn't wait. So scratch that idea. I've always been an otterbox fan so i was finally able to order the defender for it. Awesome to a point. The case is somewhat smaller than the phantom which is awesome and great protection but i just don't like the screen protector. I've always liked the commuter cases screen protector because it was crystal clear on my other galaxy s phones and you can appreciate the screen more. If otterbox still offers the seperate screen protector for the commuter i'll probably use that along with the defender for the ultimate case. Just my 2 cents. Hope i could help.
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I've never had an otterbox before a few days ago, but went with the defender model.
For previous Androids i've gone with the trident cases, and like them. The ones i've had are not comparable to the defender version of the otterbox, but i'll say now that any non-slide phone in the future for me will take into consideration defender case availability as part of the purchase decision.
It just feels safe now, the device.
Some things that could be better - the trident cases I've used have covers for speaker/mic with a filter behind to keep the dust out. This is decidedly lacking on the otterbox.
The holster is awesome, though. It's like the final stage of usefulness/protection. It makes a hard plastic shield over the screen and is an extra structural reinforcement of the protection level to the device.
Already i've turned it around in the holster, screen out, and clipped it to my visor in my car. Improv GPS mount.
In the same way you can just put something in the clip for back support and have a desk/tabletop mount for the device anywhere. Sitting in a hotel room watching a movie off the nightstand is much easier with this case.
My first impression of the clip on the holster was to cut it off and make a smooth outer shell for pocket carry. I may very well buy another case to try this out. The clip being on the case has literally proven it's case not to be cut off by how immediately useful it's been.
Another drawback, my only other complaint, the built-in screen protector.
Here again is another reason to buy a second case. Beyond trying it out without the belt clip, is trying it out without the screen protector.
I've seen a lot of threads where people mention cutting the on-board screen protector out of the defender with an xacto knife or something. Owning one, I now see why. I sit here debating the ramifications of the overall case structure if I do cut it out, because I would very much like to.
The silicon shell should still hold the case together, as well as the clips underneath that hold the case together, but I do worry about separation of the front of the case to the sides without the screen protector to hold them together. Especially given the holster clip will encourage that separation through use.
When the phone came in at the verizon store, I made sure that the first thing done to the device was to put a screen protector on it. Few days later I got the otterbox. It's whole life after unboxing, it's had a screen protector adhered to it's face. That part is important, as the otterbox screen protector just sits on the face, not adhered to it. This, to me, is an unacceptable level of compromise in protection of the device.
Without being adhered, the screen is subject to dust and oils getting between the screen protector and the screen itself. Once that happens, you are looking at the overlaid 'protector' acting like a piece of sandpaper with the dirt under it every time you touch it.
All in all, I can't see myself using anything but a defender to protect the SGSIII - a few slight modifications to the case and I will be completely satisfied.
I never played with a commuter model, but here are some thoughts on the defender.
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Another drawback, my only other complaint, the built-in screen protector.
Here again is another reason to buy a second case. Beyond trying it out without the belt clip, is trying it out without the screen protector.
I've seen a lot of threads where people mention cutting the on-board screen protector out of the defender with an xacto knife or something. Owning one, I now see why. I sit here debating the ramifications of the overall case structure if I do cut it out, because I would very much like to.
When the phone came in at the verizon store, I made sure that the first thing done to the device was to put a screen protector on it. Few days later I got the otterbox. It's whole life after unboxing, it's had a screen protector adhered to it's face. That part is important, as the otterbox screen protector just sits on the face, not adhered to it. This, to me, is an unacceptable level of compromise in protection of the device.
Without being adhered, the screen is subject to dust and oils getting between the screen protector and the screen itself. Once that happens, you are looking at the overlaid 'protector' acting like a piece of sandpaper with the dirt under it every time you touch it.
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You don't need an xacto knife to remove the built-in screen protector. The screen is adhered to the case by a strip of removable glue. Just push the screen protector in with a little force and it pops right off. You can then remove the glue around the edges by simply pulling the one long strip up around the edge.
The built-in screen protector does suck. It makes the screen very pixalated and dust does get trapped under the screen protector.
Try this out... Remove the built-in screen protector and buy a best skin ever wet protector. Apply that wet protector, let it dry completely, now place you defender case (with built-in protector removed) on the phone. This is the setup I have and it is absolutely perfect. I promise you'll love this setup. I'm extremely anal about my screen protector and case combinations for my phones and I've tried 5 different combinations before going with the BSE/defender combination. Trust me, it doesn't get better than this combination. My screen quality is perfect and my phone is secure and safe.
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Thanks to all the repliers!
so buying the case knowing that youre gonna take of the screen might be a good idea?
anl links or clips from people who did it?
anything in youtube?
BADtoBONE said:
Thanks to all the repliers!
so buying the case knowing that youre gonna take of the screen might be a good idea?
anl links or clips from people who did it?
anything in youtube?
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You don't need any videos or anything. All you're gonna need to do is pop the screen protector off by pushing it away from the case. It's actually really simple and doesn't require much effort at all. U won't break the case doing it. Just know that once u remove the screen protector, you can't reapply it. So u may want to see what the screen clarity looks like before removing the built in screen protector. You may think the screen quality is ok with it.
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had a chance to check out both the other day.
imo there's no real comparison between the two..and the commuter is almost useless to choose over the defender
its harder to take the commuter on and off imo...
it doesn't feel as nice as the defender..and its slippery..
the buttons are hard to press.... no where near impossible or anything like anyone really says when they complain but it's definitely not convenient and its fairly annoying...I actually had the phone try to slip out of my hand a few times while squeezing the phone to press the buttons.
and....the defender for the SG3 isn't as big as you'd think it is (especially in comparison to the commuter)
best part....the silicone otterbox uses on there defender has always been my main complaint...but they've used some stiffer stuff, doesn't flop off at all (or really stretch like at all) and it doesn't feel like it will collect a ton of lint or snag too much coming out of a pocket. It's just the right amount of grip
Can anyone post pic of the 'improved' defender (without plastic screen)?
I am loving my commuter. Buttons are fine for me even the power being hard to press Is not a deal breaker. My main gripe is screen protectors seem to be an issue if they are full like the curved crystal. Lesson learned, I am going to try the one that came with the case today.
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alexyaz said:
I have the commuter and I have to say that I love it and after dropping my phone from shoulder height which is prob around 5 ft high I can honestly say that this case does a great job protecting the phone.
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Definitely. I was thinking of getting a thinner case, but I drop my phone often enough that Commuter is worth it. I have the green one and I imagine it can get quite dirty in the future.
Buttons are definitely hard to press, but I can get used to it I guess. Definitely worth it for the protection alone.
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Can anyone post pic of the 'improved' defender (without plastic screen)?
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It looks exactly like the defender.. Just without the plastic screen protector. Think of it as a window with no glass. The window will still look the same, it just has no glass. U will be using a wet screen protector instead of the builtin screen protector.
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hi guys
i have been comparing these two products for a quite some time and i cannot give my final decision to which product should i buy. i am looking for a case that has a front face cover. and i found the ballistic maxx and otterbox defender. but what makes me think twice between these product is the comes with screen protector. these protector is quite think and most likely it will ruin the colors of my S3's screen. i have seen it in some product reviews posted by youtube users. the screen becomes glary. and the second thing that makes me think twice is, if i remove the screen protector, will my S3 shake around inside the case if i dont use the screen protector?
i tried contacting the customer support of otterbox they said they cannot answer my concern. and for ballistic they told me i can still use the case even if i dont use the screen protector, but i still do not understand what they really meant. and they did not gave me a straight answer to my question on what will really happen if i did not use their product's screen protector.
now i would like to ask your personal opinion about these two products, which is better? and if you guys did not use the comes with screen protector will your S3 shake around inside the case? and lastly i am just looking for a case that has a front cover. i dont really like the flip cover cases.
thanks
From what I read about the defender taking out the screen protector does not affect the snugg-ness of the phone and case.
I have the trident kraken that came with a removable screen protector, that I decided but to use.
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I know how you feel, i looked at both those cases and went with the Trident Kraken. Provides the same level of protection and the kickstand is a bonus. Second choice would be the otterbox.
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I personally hated the otter box, sold it as soon as I got the chance. I kept the maxx and it's the case I go for when I need a holster.
I took the screen protector off of my defender with no fit issues. I stopped using it because it squeeks so much. When you hold the phone. This may be due to extra flexing from the removed screen protector as it is rigid and glued in.
The otterbox is an awesome case, the only thing I hate is that the outer silicone layer always stretches out. The defender for my GS3 streched out after 2 months...
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ricktat said:
I took the screen protector off of my defender with no fit issues. I stopped using it because it squeeks so much. When you hold the phone. This may be due to extra flexing from the removed screen protector as it is rigid and glued in.
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I think it's just the case in general. My screen protector is still in tact and it squeaks like no other.
I'm tempted to get a new case, but can't decide. I've narrowed it down to the SG MAXX, Commuter, Kraken, PX260, and the Dualtek.
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I think it's just the case in general. My screen protector is still in tact and it squeaks like no other.
I'm tempted to get a new case, but can't decide. I've narrowed it down to the SG MAXX, Commuter, Kraken, PX260, and the Dualtek.
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I got the dualtek case yesterday, it's a really nice case. I just wish there was a compatible holster for it.
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I have both cases mentioned in OP. The included screen covers are garbage. Make the screen look like crap plus particles such as sand, dirt (I am in construction field) and so on can get behind protector and scratch screen.
Standard zagg and otterbox working well for me. Zagg HD seemed to thin and marked up easy om my pocket. Otter box laps over the edge of the zagg, which so far has kept the edge from peeling on me which is a common problem for me and my use.
Ballastic has great rubber corners for drop protection but the otter box is easier to slip in and out of pocket and my preferred case.
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naturecannon said:
I have both cases mentioned in OP. The included screen covers are garbage. Make the screen look like crap plus particles such as sand, dirt (I am in construction field) and so on can get behind protector and scratch screen.
Standard zagg and otterbox working well for me. Zagg HD seemed to thin and marked up easy om my pocket. Otter box laps over the edge of the zagg, which so far has kept the edge from peeling on me which is a common problem for me and my use.
Ballastic has great rubber corners for drop protection but the otter box is easier to slip in and out of pocket and my preferred case.
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I also have both cases described in OP and have to agree to a point, the screen protectors make the screen look terrible. I went with the Ballistic for a couple reasons. 1. The Ballistic seems to slide in and out of my pocket easier (probably because it has more smooth surface than the Defender). 2. The belt clip seems more comfortable to me. The Defender belt clip seemed to sit higher on me which would gouge my hip. Not cool. 3. I got the Defender used when I bought my phone and the rubber on it seems a little loose. I don't think this will happen with the Ballistic mainly because my wife has one on her Note and it's help up extremly well. 3. I got my Ballistic Maxx on ebay for $30 in the color I wanted and I thought that was a good price. Now I need to ditch this screen protector and get a nice one.
I too have both cases. I did/don't use any of the screen protectors that came with it. As for OP, it really depends what you're trying to get out of it. What's your average day like? do you work in an office? go to school? work in construction? I am a process engineer and i'm in and out of food plants and i pull my phone out to snap pictures at least 4 times a day on a daily basis for an hour or so. With that being said I NEED the protection because I have dropped it a few times. I'm currently using the Ballastic without the clip, i just hold it in my pocket. The otterbox is a bit bulkier for me and it slips easy (from hand and in and out of pocket). The ballistic on the other hand, doesn't. It gives you good grip, and isn't a pain for me to pull out of my pockets (i wear dickies for work and rvca romero ii jeans when i'm out and about or jordan basketball shorts when i feel like bumming it). I like the grip because it doesn't slip out of my pockets easily when i wear basketball shorts as the ottorbox did. HOWEVER, be warned that it does pull lint easily. It's not alot where you'll get a hairball when you pull it out of your pockets but it is there. Overall, I'm sticking with the ballastic because it offers great drop protection (as does the OB), but with the corners I personally feel it's more secure and it's not as bulky as people say it is. I'll post up pictures when i get the chance.
Does anyone use a screen protector on their Nitro? Has anyone actually been able to scratch the screen?
I was looking into a Ballistic HardCore case, but I see that it comes in a full housing and the plastic screen protector on it kind of ruins the view of the IPS display (one of the major selling points of the Nitro). So with Gorilla Glass 2 coating is it really worth it to lower the display quality a little bit to get the protection?
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Does anyone use a screen protector on their Nitro? Has anyone actually been able to scratch the screen?
I was looking into a Ballistic HardCore case, but I see that it comes in a full housing and the plastic screen protector on it kind of ruins the view of the IPS display (one of the major selling points of the Nitro). So with Gorilla Glass 2 coating is it really worth it to lower the display quality a little bit to get the protection?
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Yes. I dropped my nitro and the screen cracked, a couple of days AFTER i removed my screen protector. So yea. You should.
I cracked my screen after dropping it while it had a protector on it.
I took mine off I've had it off quite a few months now the glass is tough but I did manage to scratch it. I work construction and I'm very hard on my phone.
I can be bothered with anymore screen protectors they just mark up and dull the screen.
Over all this phone has fallen upwards of 15 ft and I've been lucky its held on well.
I also don't use a case at all.
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keenz said:
I cracked my screen after dropping it while it had a protector on it.
I took mine off I've had it off quite a few months now the glass is tough but I did manage to scratch it. I work construction and I'm very hard on my phone.
I can be bothered with anymore screen protectors they just mark up and dull the screen.
Over all this phone has fallen upwards of 15 ft and I've been lucky its held on well.
I also don't use a case at all.
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You sir, are lucky. Mine has fallen a distance of 3 ft and cracked my screen... twice. Both with and without a screen protector.
If you want to go with just a screen protector, I recommend Zagg, just put it on right. You don't even notice the "orange peel" look with the screen on; in fact, I don't even realize I have a screen protector on when the screen is on. The Ballistic case is very sturdy though, and after my replacement digitizer comes in, I will be using it again. Another point to consider, if you have the extended battery, the ballistic case will not fit.
lordcheeto03 said:
You sir, are lucky. Mine has fallen a distance of 3 ft and cracked my screen... twice. Both with and without a screen protector.
If you want to go with just a screen protector, I recommend Zagg, just put it on right. You don't even notice the "orange peel" look with the screen on; in fact, I don't even realize I have a screen protector on when the screen is on. The Ballistic case is very sturdy though, and after my replacement digitizer comes in, I will be using it again. Another point to consider, if you have the extended battery, the ballistic case will not fit.
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No screen protector will stop a crack from a drop a the right angle, but they should all protect from scratching. I am weary on using the Ballistic HardCore case since it will add so much bulk and take away the beauty of the screen with it's plastic window. It pretty much makes the phone just short of bullet proof though, so I can see why people spring for it.
I just ordered some Xtremegaurd ones since there is a 80% off coupon code. Zagg would have been nice, but not enough money for that. Will report back and state whether or not it takes away from the screen.
I'd recommend ghost armor aswell, doesn't dull the quality at all.
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Technocian said:
No screen protector will stop a crack from a drop a the right angle, but they should all protect from scratching. I am weary on using the Ballistic HardCore case since it will add so much bulk and take away the beauty of the screen with it's plastic window. It pretty much makes the phone just short of bullet proof though, so I can see why people spring for it.
I just ordered some Xtremegaurd ones since there is a 80% off coupon code. Zagg would have been nice, but not enough money for that. Will report back and state whether or not it takes away from the screen.
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Yeah, Ballistic is definitely tough. As you pointed out, the only real flaw I see with it is the plastic screen cover. And about the size; I have an extended battery. The only real world difference I notice between the Ballistic case and the extended battery + cover is the contour. I know it is bigger all around, but I just can't notice the extra size; just the different shape.
I have been tempted to try popping the plastic cover out of the case and just using the Zagg protector.. it's not like the plastic cover keeps water from getting in, or dust from getting in, or as an extra layer of protection against drops...
I've scratched my screen a little. One decent scratch. I ordered a refurbished ballistic hc with no screen protector.
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I dont use screen protectors. Cant stand them. I barely have a belt bag for mine althought i might get a BarelyThere cover. Its feels very good just the phone itself without cover unlike the first 2 Atrix models, which i had. I hardly drop my phones or even scratch them. The only phone i ever damaged digitizer was my first touch pro2 with keys in my pocket. It was no biggy but the scratch was there. Since then if i use phones in pockets i make sure nothing else is there.
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I've scratched my screen a little. One decent scratch. I ordered a refurbished ballistic hc with no screen protector.
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See? This is the kind of stuff that makes me debate whether or not I want to enjoy the naked screen to use a protector and lose some clarity.
Isn't Gorilla Glass not supposed to scartch? Decisions decisions.
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See? This is the kind of stuff that makes me debate whether or not I want to enjoy the naked screen to use a protector and lose some clarity.
Isn't Gorilla Glass not supposed to scartch? Decisions decisions.
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Zagg all the way then! I honestly can't even tell I have a screen protector on my phone when I'm using it. I see no loss of clarity, but I also gain the good conscious of knowing my screen won't scratch if I accidentally shove my phone in my pocket with my keys and some pocket change or if I happen to set it face-down, or anything else.
And Gorilla Glass is only scratch resistant, but that doesn't mean it's scratch-proof. The first few months I had my phone I made absolute certain I never put it in my pocket with anything that could damage it, I cleaned it with the rag I use to clean my glasses, and just overall watched over it like a hawk. Somehow I still managed to put a couple barely noticeable scratches on the screen. So I would say at the very least, go with a screen protector... also, in the off-chance that you DO end up shattering your digitizer, that screen protector will keep trash from having the rather unlikely opportunity to get inside and wreak havoc on your LCD if the break is bad enough.
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Zagg all the way then! I honestly can't even tell I have a screen protector on my phone when I'm using it. I see no loss of clarity, but I also gain the good conscious of knowing my screen won't scratch if I accidentally shove my phone in my pocket with my keys and some pocket change or if I happen to set it face-down, or anything else.
And Gorilla Glass is only scratch resistant, but that doesn't mean it's scratch-proof. The first few months I had my phone I made absolute certain I never put it in my pocket with anything that could damage it, I cleaned it with the rag I use to clean my glasses, and just overall watched over it like a hawk. Somehow I still managed to put a couple barely noticeable scratches on the screen. So I would say at the very least, go with a screen protector... also, in the off-chance that you DO end up shattering your digitizer, that screen protector will keep trash from having the rather unlikely opportunity to get inside and wreak havoc on your LCD if the break is bad enough.
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Basically, the screen will scratch whether or not it's gorilla glass if it comes into contact with sand. You'd be surprised at how often that can happen. Metal is softer than the screen so it can't scratch it.
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Basically, the screen will scratch whether or not it's gorilla glass if it comes into contact with sand. You'd be surprised at how often that can happen. Metal is softer than the screen so it can't scratch it.
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That tidbit of information means that a few grains of sand in your pocket are more likely to scratch a screen than rubbing against pocket change or keys. Even the Ballistic case will let debris get inside the case and between the screen and the plastic cover. I don't know how many times I would thoroughly wipe the screen and the case, carefully put it together, and admire how clean it was. Drop it in my pocket for a little bit and pull it out only to find specks of pocket lint under the plastic. It was a never-ending cycle!
nope, had Armor and took it off. still scratch free
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Hey all. I was just wondering if anyone else was noticing that the screen protector on this case doesn't touch the screen flush like it should.
Top to bottom I have a gap that not only lets dust just waltz right in, but makes me have to actually press on the screen for touches most of the time, or repeat an action because I didn't press the screen protector to contact the screen.
I've had 2 replacements sent, and they all have the same problem. My 3VO case never had that issue.
I'm thinking that the Commuter would have the same issue, considering they're almost identical designs.
Have any of you with these cases noticed this?
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Hey all. I was just wondering if anyone else was noticing that the screen protector on this case doesn't touch the screen flush like it should.
Top to bottom I have a gap that not only lets dust just waltz right in, but makes me have to actually press on the screen for touches most of the time, or repeat an action because I didn't press the screen protector to contact the screen.
I've had 2 replacements sent, and they all have the same problem. My 3VO case never had that issue.
I'm thinking that the Commuter would have the same issue, considering they're almost identical designs.
Have any of you with these cases noticed this?
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First, what's a '3VO'?
Second, I would have to say any case with a built in plastic screen protector like that will have that same issue. No, the Commuter does not have that problem because the screen protector sticks onto the screen itself instead of being attached to the case.
3VO = Evo 3D
Anyway, like I mentioned, my Defender case didn't have that issue at all on my Evo 3D. The screen protector was attached to the case and was tight against the screen.
You'd think that any case with a built in screen protector would have them tight against the screen. It's such a hassle having to open it all the time just to get dust out from under it. Allowing anything between itself and the screen kind of defeats the protectors purpose, doesn't it? If something just slips under there and scratches the screen, then it's purpose is moot, and shouldn't even be there.
I'm just mentioning it because I've seen several different phones with the Defender installed, and every one of those had the screen protector fitting tight on the screen with no openings.
If you see how the screen protector is designed, and how that front of the case is designed to compress slightly when clipped properly into the back of the case, that compression pushes the sides of that screen protector inward from the sides, creating the openings. A simple resolution to that would be to trim the screen protector plastic by mere millimeters on either side to allow it to fit properly onto the screen surface.
I was just wondering if anyone else with the Defender case noticed this as well. I figure they will, because 3 cases for me have that issue.
Defender cases are really just good for drop protection. They always let dust in through speaker and Mic cutouts.
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I buy defender cases for all the phones I get (I drop my phones alot... clumsy) and the first thing I do is remove their screen protector just use a one that goes on the phone
Same issue
I've had Otterbox Defenders for every phone I've owned dating back to the original iPhone. This is the first time I've removed the integrated screen protector.
The cutout at the bottom of the screen protector that uncovers the bottom speaker grille and the buttons causes a severe gap to form between the glass and the screen protector. It's a design flaw of this particular model of Otterbox unfortunately. Short of adding a bar that runs across the case at the bottom of the screen I'm not sure of a way to correct it either. Given the tight fit of the case and the plastic used it's always going to bubble like that.
Take the screen protector out and replace it with a good quality one and you'll never know the difference. I'm actually running mine with a naked screen right now but I'm thinking about getting one of the glass covers since they'll fit inside the Otterbox.
The only real reason I get Defenders is for drop protection and the holster anyway so it wasn't a big deal.
Belkiolle said:
I've had Otterbox Defenders for every phone I've owned dating back to the original iPhone. This is the first time I've removed the integrated screen protector.
The cutout at the bottom of the screen protector that uncovers the bottom speaker grille and the buttons causes a severe gap to form between the glass and the screen protector. It's a design flaw of this particular model of Otterbox unfortunately. Short of adding a bar that runs across the case at the bottom of the screen I'm not sure of a way to correct it either. Given the tight fit of the case and the plastic used it's always going to bubble like that.
Take the screen protector out and replace it with a good quality one and you'll never know the difference. I'm actually running mine with a naked screen right now but I'm thinking about getting one of the glass covers since they'll fit inside the Otterbox.
The only real reason I get Defenders is for drop protection and the holster anyway so it wasn't a big deal.
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Yet another "same here". I put a Zagg on my screen and I use my Otterbox for drop protection and protecting the ports (headphone and micro USB) from dust/ dirt. On that basis, it works very well for me.
Mine was the same way. It bothered the crap out of me so I popped that thing out and ordered a mime ghost screen protector. Should be here soon.
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Mine was the same way. It bothered the crap out of me so I popped that thing out and ordered a mime ghost screen protector. Should be here soon.
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When it comes in let us know about the fit please.
Otterbox seems to be just crap now.
The gap is totally unacceptable, the lock tab has to be forced down on mine to properly secure, otherwise is falls out. Also, the rubber loses shape quickly, be mindful of that when you are taking it apart all the time to clean it.
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wpghtc said:
Otterbox seems to be just crap now.
The gap is totally unacceptable, the lock tab has to be forced down on mine to properly secure, otherwise is falls out. Also, the rubber loses shape quickly, be mindful of that when you are taking it apart all the time to clean it.
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I eventually stopped using mine in favor of a simple TPU case and a nice leather belt pouch. But if I really needed the protection I may have continued with it.
I removed the useless built in plastic protector; due to the dust collecting under the plastic, I had to have a normal screen protector on there anyway.
The last time I removed the Defender one of the plastic tabs securing the top to bottom plastic broke. It is very difficult to remove the top from the bottom. No big deal, I'm not going to use it. I so very much prefer the convenience of the pouch.
I never had any problems with the rubber part, but I only removed it a couple of times.
wpghtc said:
Otterbox seems to be just crap now.
The gap is totally unacceptable, the lock tab has to be forced down on mine to properly secure, otherwise is falls out. Also, the rubber loses shape quickly, be mindful of that when you are taking it apart all the time to clean it.
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I had the same problem with the gap in the screen protector. I just put a cheap screen protector on the phone itself, and that made it so that the Defender screen protector no longer had the gap. Prior to adding the extra screen protector, it was difficult to get the phone to register my touches all the time. Now, it works perfectly.
I can also see your point about the rubber. It was one of my first complaints when I got the case. The Defender on my Evo3D had a great feeling rubber. Soft and flexible. I think the new rubber is far too hard, and I can see it deforming pretty easily if you take the phone out of the case very often. I personally don't tend to take it out of the case, especially since we have no removable battery or MicroSD. I don't have a need usually to take it out of the case. The only positive I will give the new rubber they are using over my Evo3D Defender, is that this case is nowhere near the lint magnet.
Also, I am not terribly thrilled about the gigantic cutout of the screen protector so it doesn't cover the capacitive buttons at the bottom. No idea what the thinking there was, unless they did it specifically because of the problems with the buttons prior to the last update. On the other hand, having a big opening like that in the screen protector, makes it easy for me to find the Home and Back buttons in the dark. For some reason, my capacitive buttons only seem to really light up when it is pitch black out, so there are a lot of times where I just can not see them. Easy to find them by touch with this case.
I'm a bit disappointed in the plugs for the ports as well. Over time, I'm sure they will pop in and out easier, but that isn't such a good thing. Because the rubber is so hard, I can see them getting to the point where they just won't stay in at all. Also, the one over the microUSB port is the most annoying to me. Because of the design and the hardness of the rubber, it is actually kind of a pain to pop the cable in there.
I have been a huge fan of Otterbox over the years, especially when it comes to their customer service. They are far and away the best I have ever dealt with, but I think this case was a misstep. I haven't tried any of their other Defender cases for other phones from this generation, so I can't tell if this is something they are doing across all phones, or if the One just got the short end of the stick.
Same here. I love the punk color scheme, but like stated, the built in screen protector is heavily flawed. I switched to the UAG and so far(1 week) all is good. I think I will take out the otterbox screen and use it periodically. I do like the older rubber style better, like I have for my old HTC inspire 4g, it grips better in your hand.
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Anyones rubber starting to sag from the shell on the corners and by the usb port? Its pretty bad on my usb port.
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Agreed 100%. OtterBox is S#!T. Only reason i got one was i needed some sort of protection till my Seidio case came in. Got it today so guess where the Ottrbox is.
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Anyones rubber starting to sag from the shell on the corners and by the usb port? Its pretty bad on my usb port.
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Mine is sagging on both top corners. I got a replacement coming.
What, in your opinions, would be the best glass screen protector to replace this crappy plastic one with? Compatible with the Defender, of course.
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Which screen protector do you use on your Note 3 and why?
There seems to be around four different popular Spigen screen protectors available for the note 3...
Crystal -
Strong screen protector, clear quality.
Ultra Crystal -
Same as above, but a little clearer?
Oleophobic -
Not as strong as above, but helps with fingerprints?
Ultra Optics -
Anti fingerprint & anti glare
I was going to go that route until I found out the naked screen already has that coating to help fight fingerprints and smudges. Now I don't want to put one on. In the almost two weeks I had the phone I only had to wipe the screen may three times. And from what the screen is made of I don't see it getting scratched from anything. I mean how many of your kitchen glasses have scratches gouged in them, or the windows of your car? I mean it's stronger glass than those, so there's no worries.
I use nothing on mine.
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I think the biggest worry is cracks. Screen protectors aren't going to keep us from getting cracks. Id hate to accidentally put my keys in the same pocket though.
I've put Ghost Armor on my last 4 phones and cant recommend them highly enough. Depending on where you go, their guys are always very helpful and professional. I always have a hard time getting these screen protectors on without bubbles or dirt getting underneath and with a screen this size I would just rather let someone trained to do it, do it right.
The newer Ghost Armor is also thinner while still offering the same great protection. Most people cant even tell I have anything on the screen. For an almost $800 dollar device I want all the protection I can get.
+1 for Ghost Armor by me.
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Which screen protector do you use on your Note 3 and why?
There seems to be around four different popular Spigen screen protectors available for the note 3...
Crystal -
Strong screen protector, clear quality.
Ultra Crystal -
Same as above, but a little clearer?
Oleophobic -
Not as strong as above, but helps with fingerprints?
Ultra Optics -
Anti fingerprint & anti glare
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If your going to put a screen protector then put the Ultra Oleophobic from Spigen it's the closest I've used that feels like glass (aside from the tempered glass), your finger and S-Pen slides across the screen. It feels really good and not rough like others.
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Vgamer4550 said:
I've put Ghost Armor on my last 4 phones and cant recommend them highly enough. Depending on where you go, their guys are always very helpful and professional. I always have a hard time getting these screen protectors on without bubbles or dirt getting underneath and with a screen this size I would just rather let someone trained to do it, do it right.
The newer Ghost Armor is also thinner while still offering the same great protection. Most people cant even tell I have anything on the screen. For an almost $800 dollar device I want all the protection I can get.
+1 for Ghost Armor by me.
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Curious what Ghost Armor costs.
My .02 is - I always felt with Gorilla Glass you couldn't scratch the phone. I even read articles that nothing but sand would scratch it but that's not true. I put a nice deep scratch in my Galaxy S3. I had 2 phones in my pocket and the back of the Iphone case had a little metal disc so I can attach it via a magnet mount in the car. Well phones got shuffled in movement and that disc really made a nice deep scratch. I'm not sure Ghost Armour or anything else would have saved me there but welcome your opinion since you have used Ghost Armour on multiple devices.
Now I make sure my phones are always back to back if they are both in the same pocket.
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Curious what Ghost Armor costs.
My .02 is - I always felt with Gorilla Glass you couldn't scratch the phone. I even read articles that nothing but sand would scratch it but that's not true. I put a nice deep scratch in my Galaxy S3. I had 2 phones in my pocket and the back of the Iphone case had a little metal disc so I can attach it via a magnet mount in the car. Well phones got shuffled in movement and that disc really made a nice deep scratch. I'm not sure Ghost Armour or anything else would have saved me there but welcome your opinion since you have used Ghost Armour on multiple devices.
Now I make sure my phones are always back to back if they are both in the same pocket.
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Ghost Armor is not the cheapest, but I think its very worth it. Just having it done professionally without the bubbles and goofyness that comes with not getting the protector perfectly straight is worth half the price for me.
For my last phone, the S3 I had them do the whole phone. Front, Back, and Sides. The back and side they did in a "carbon fiber" and the front they used their Ghost armor. After a year in a half of pretty hard use, I had them redo the protectors and the darn phone looks freaking brand new. I cant say the same for the case I got for it.
As far as price goes. Its about 15 bucks for just the front of the device and 25-50ish dollars if you do the whole device depending on the size. They do anything from cell phones to laptops. They also have a life time warrant. So if you do get bubbles or the protector starts to peel. Just bring it back to any location and they will redo it for 5 bucks labor, not cost for the material.
Now, our Note 3s, Im not sure I would recommend doing much more then the front of the device as the the back and sides are not straight plastic, so the plastic protectors might not stick very well. I also got myself a Samsung S-View cover. So with the screen protector and the S-View cover, I am no longer worried about arbitrarily throwing the phone in my pocket.
Having to open the S-View cover works for me so far, but I may change it out for a regular case like a SEIDIO case when they become available for more drop protection etc.
Ghost armor is nice but it seems to inhibit the use of the spen since it's not a hard surface
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Ghost armor is nice but it seems to inhibit the use of the spen since it's not a hard surface
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Haven't seemed to have a problem with it on my end.