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Hey All! Just got my gn a couple weeks ago and I love it! I must say though I'm a little surprised at how few roms there are out for it. I know it's new and all but still it HAS been out since last fall! Is this how long it normally takes to build a fan base with these phones? I'm not complaining. I just found it curious, coming from the Nexus S to owning the new Android flagship that there would still be such relatively little support by now. Any takers on the topic? I'd Be interested to hear your input!
Oh By the way, I'm in no way bashing the phone or this forum. I think both are outstanding. Just making conversation lol
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Hey All! Just got my gn a couple weeks ago and I love it! I must say though I'm a little surprised at how few roms there are out for it. I know it's new and all but still it HAS been out since last fall! Is this how long it normally takes to build a fan base with these phones? I'm not complaining. I just found it curious, coming from the Nexus S to owning the new Android flagship that there would still be such relatively little support by now. Any takers on the topic? I'd Be interested to hear your input!
Oh By the way, I'm in no way bashing the phone or this forum. I think both are outstanding. Just making conversation lol
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Why do we need more roms? The current ones provide everything we need.
Same complaints about the epic touch, six months later there's a ridiculous amount of ROMs to flash.
it's better to have a few very good roms than a lot of roms that are not so good.
I just counted 25 ROMs in the dev section. Should our phones be walking to the store for us?
What more do you need??
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Well take a look at the nexus s forum. there's a rom for everyone! One Can never have too much choice! And again it was just a question. No Need to get all defensive.
less roms equals the nest selection
I think the reason is that a couple of roms got such a headstart in users and features, the devs don't see a demand. Sometimes it seems like over half the GNex owners use aokp, myself included.
For me it's surprising to see so little in flashable mods. I'd love to try some roms, but they don't have a customizable lock screen or notification toggles. To me those are must haves, so I stick with aokp. Maybe when cyanogenmod finally goes stable, devs can use it as a base for great roms.
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I can see what you mean. I also came from the Nexus S, and I did notice that there are a lot more ROMS for it. But it seems like there is no low quality roms for the Gnex. It really is a casse of quality over quantity. And we also have some groundbreaking roms here, such as paranoidandroid.
Quality v.s. quantity.
Are you looking for ROMs built from ASOP or ROMS that are just a klang of another with skins?
IMHO, ASOP or CM9 is all that a person needs. Then add what you want and ignore the rest.
I think as far as ROMS go we have hit a plateau. Until the next release (assuming there are new features) nearly everything is available over the ROMS we currently have. I can see a few kernels coming up with new ideas but I think ROMS are as up to speed as we can expect for a while
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Well take a look at the nexus s forum. there's a rom for everyone! One Can never have too much choice! And again it was just a question. No Need to get all defensive.
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The fact the Nexus S has been around for a lot longer, that can happen.
santeana said:
Hey All! Just got my gn a couple weeks ago and I love it! I must say though I'm a little surprised at how few roms there are out for it. I know it's new and all but still it HAS been out since last fall! Is this how long it normally takes to build a fan base with these phones? I'm not complaining. I just found it curious, coming from the Nexus S to owning the new Android flagship that there would still be such relatively little support by now. Any takers on the topic? I'd Be interested to hear your input!
Oh By the way, I'm in no way bashing the phone or this forum. I think both are outstanding. Just making conversation lol
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Gotta be careful what you say around here. I had opened up a similar thread where I was "complaining" about the Rom Support for the nexus and got flamed big time as effect.
Just watch out around here.. they don't like opinions
But coming from a sgs 2 I also was dissapointed to not find hundreds of different Roms for the nexus as there were for the galaxy s 2. Also every Rom on the nexus looks about the same and has about the same Features while for the galaxy they really differed.
I'm on bamf with bond Kernel and love them. But also waiting for an update from both since weeks....
-sent from my galaxy nexus
wait till jelly bean comes out
we have less ROMs coz they're all based on ICS , nexus S has various gingerbread versions too, not to mention it's been there for quite some time. as someone already said, basically we have everything we need with the current ROMs, except ParanoidAndroid, the only new idea could be a port of sense or tw for example, but then there's the same problem with drivers, certain hardware not working and so on.. Some people think for instance, that buying HTC or Samsung devices will give them more options, sense/TW roms and aosp/miui , and it does sound good in theory , but the reality is that u will always end up with a buggy AOSP experience (there's always something that's not working right-been through many devices and it's the same story all over again).
As a conclusion, people should make a little research before getting a device, if u like what sense or TW (or any other custom UI) offers u , then u should consider that device, if u want a real AOSP experience then the nexus is ur best choice. Not to mention that if u have a fetish to change the way ur UI looks u can always get a 3rd party launcher, AOSP handles it best coz sense or TW occupy more RAM and running a market launcher on top of all this just makes it worse.
yeah a lot of you guys make sense. I guess with all the options on the nexus s I had become a bit of a crack flasher. I just enjoyed trying out new and different roms and playing with them. but as someone just said here earlier all the ones here are pretty much the same. I'm using aokp now and I like it. I just also like other stuff too lol
thanks for your opinions everyone! keep em coming! great reading
I agree. I miss my galaxy s2 i9100. That phone has the most development. I wanna give you a reason for more development... it was expensive but it was launched everywhere in the world. Second you can run 4 different (base) types of roms.
1) touchwiz gingerbread
2) cm7 aosp based gingerbread
3) touchwiz ICS
4) cm9 aosp based ics roms
So you can see how there are always roms to flash. I loved flashing early builds as well. So I encourage more devs to build different and unique roms rather than taking features from other roms. Thanks
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Consider it a blessing. Towards the dying days of the SE X10, most of the renowned devs had moved on and then we had a million different variations of every kind of rom you could think of. We had heaps of MIUI roms which were all identical but with a different theme. Same story with Cyanogen roms.
There's really no need to have a plethora of roms because they all end up being the same. Its better to have a selection of high quality roms to pick from.
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in my experience most of the roms available are just variations of stock **** by some kid who learned to deodex and root. because what the world really needs is another ****ty rom based on sense.
there are no GB roms, no roms based on some vendor-ruined stock build. just AOSP. there are few bugs, just awesome features. you don't need a ton of roms when you have that.
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I agree. I miss my galaxy s2 i9100. That phone has the most development. I wanna give you a reason for more development... it was expensive but it was launched everywhere in the world. Second you can run 4 different (base) types of roms.
1) touchwiz gingerbread
2) cm7 aosp based gingerbread
3) touchwiz ICS
4) cm9 aosp based ics roms
So you can see how there are always roms to flash. I loved flashing early builds as well. So I encourage more devs to build different and unique roms rather than taking features from other roms. Thanks
Sent from Galaxy Nexus
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I second that.
-sent from my galaxy nexus
I'm really surprised at the lack of good aosp roms. Back in the nexus one days or even nexus s there was a plethora of Roms. For a developer device that's world wide you'd figure it would get more attention. The toro gets some good Roms but the maguro is pretty sparse. Feel free to share you opinions on the matter.
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I'm really surprised at the lack of good aosp roms. Back in the nexus one days or even nexus s there was a plethora of Roms. For a developer device that's world wide you'd figure it would get more attention. The toro gets some good Roms but the maguro is pretty sparse. Feel free to share you opinions on the matter.
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Everywhere I go I am overwhelmed by the amount of roms. How can you be missing them?
lol i would much rather have a maguro nexus have you seen what the toroplus (sprint) has not much but still nothing to complain about
Quality, not quantity.
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navillos said:
I'm really surprised at the lack of good aosp roms.
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Are you saying all the roms suck? Why don't you make a better one then.
How often do you need to change roms when they're all based on the same rom?
So let me get this straight, you contribute nothing for free, you like using things for free, yet you like to complain about something that is offered to you for FREE. I swear, the nerve of some people...
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You do realize that the nexus s has 3 version of android thus more roms??? Maybe you can create a rom more suitable to your needs...
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I can't tell if serious.
If this thread was made in any non Nexus, SGS3, One X, SGS2, flagship device forum, I'd might have bought it.
3/10 for ridiculous thread.
But seriously, there's so many ROMs here, what are you looking for?
navillos said:
I'm really surprised at the lack of good aosp roms. Back in the nexus one days or even nexus s there was a plethora of Roms. For a developer device that's world wide you'd figure it would get more attention. The toro gets some good Roms but the maguro is pretty sparse. Feel free to share you opinions on the matter.
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Well to be fair.... during those "Android" days. Those ROMs weren't really ROMs. They were just themed ROMs, which are now being featured as themes for existing ROMs and/or Theme Manager.
Lack of AOSP Roms? ummmm.....
1) CyanogenMod 9 / 10
2) AOKP
3) AndroidME
4) Gummy
........ etc
If there is such a lack, why don't you learn how to make a ROM and show people "how it's done?" since you're saying that there is a lack of good ROMs. Go make one, please. OP is most likely trolling.
I'd rather have good ROMs with actual development than a bunch of amateur skinned ROMs with some dumb tweaks anyone could do in 10 minutes.
There are TOO MANY roms for gnexus. Right now, there is little development done on JB outside CM10, AOKP and parandroid (not counting the not-yet-released development work).
Too many rom "cooks" and themers flooding the development section with 99% stock roms with a few added tweaks like APM, beat audio, init.d tweaks, etc. I'm not saying it's bad, but it's definitely redundant.
Going to close this before it gets too heated.
---Jay--- From the GNex
Hey all,
Just wondering what rom people on this forum are using on their note 2.
Also, if the sound recording is an issue on official cm nightlies, does that mean all roms based on it like the unofficial, or vanilla rootbox, liquidsmooth have the same problem? Because they are based on also?
Thanks for your time
maybe it's time we run a poll for all the roms out there?
I bind around between a bunch, but I spend most time on the Jedi series
AEiX said:
Hey all,
Just wondering what rom people on this forum are using on their note 2.
Also, if the sound recording is an issue on official cm nightlies, does that mean all roms based on it like the unofficial, or vanilla rootbox, liquidsmooth have the same problem? Because they are based on also?
Thanks for your time
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check the development section to see what roms people are using
and, yes, any problems that cm 10.1 has, any rom based on it most likely will have..
It's not easy to do an actual poll on here. At best you'll get pages and pages of people listing roms. No value add, no data collection or analysis. So yes, the easiest way to see what people are using is look at the roms available. And lots of people flash roms like some of us shower; what they use today may not be what they use tomorrow.
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I would love to help you, but help yourself first: ask a better question
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AEiX said:
Hey all,
Just wondering what rom people on this forum are using on their note 2.
Also, if the sound recording is an issue on official cm nightlies, does that mean all roms based on it like the unofficial, or vanilla rootbox, liquidsmooth have the same problem? Because they are based on also?
Thanks for your time
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AOKP or ROOT-BOX
I've been testing out a bunch of ROMs that go by just to see what works and what is needed to be fix (let's face it... that's what this site is for... It's a developer's site that lets us alpha/beta test out their skills and report what needs to be fixed). Each ROM has their unique features and such.
It's not a popularity contest, so no, I don't think there should be a poll since it will not matter. What does matter is if you find yourself a ROM you like, support it, support the developer by saying thanks and if you can, donate. Don't be afraid to try other ROMs as well. I've said this before and I will say it again... You have nothing to lose but a bit of time depending on how much you make a ROM your home. Find which one works for you.
Nandroid backup, wipe, flash, test. Like? Say so. Something broken that hasn't been reported yet? Say so.
Try not to treat this site as a free custom workshop for your phone. Treat it as a test site and be happy the devs take the time to do these things for us users/testers.
Check my sig. Best rom!
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Phones: iPhone 4 - > iPhone 5 - > Note 2 (Always on AT&T)
ROM: International N7105XXDLL4 by miscom
Kernal: Perseus alpha30.1
A lot of bloatware removed.
Screen on time after normal charge: 7-8 hours always.
UrbanLagoon said:
Check my sig. Best rom!
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Phones: iPhone 4 - > iPhone 5 - > Note 2 (Always on AT&T)
ROM: International N7105XXDLL4 by miscom
Kernal: Perseus alpha30.1
A lot of bloatware removed.
Screen on time after normal charge: 7-8 hours always.
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So I have tried most all of the top 6 ROMs. Clean Rom is very stable, Jelly Thunder has nice eye candy, but hands down the best ROM for me is SkyNote 7, aka Sky Wallet. Love the light saber sound for s pen. I worked with Seanz testing wallet, so I KNOW it works. I did put the latest Perseus kernel, Awesome beats, and Apex launcher on it to customize. IMO, this ROM is the pinnacle of Note 2 development!:silly:
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So I have tried most all of the top 6 ROMs. Clean Rom is very stable, Jelly Thunder has nice eye candy, but hands down the best ROM for me is SkyNote 7, aka Sky Wallet. Love the light saber sound for s pen. I worked with Seanz testing wallet, so I KNOW it works. I did put the latest Perseus kernel, Awesome beats, and Apex launcher on it to customize. IMO, this ROM is the pinnacle of Note 2 development!:silly:
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Agree 110%
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Cleanrom is my choice.
I've been on CleanROM for a while, but right now am trying Jedi XPX.
CleanROM is a very safe ROM to use. It's as close to stock as you can get. Hard to quantify exactly how much better performance and battery life are, but my impression is that it is better than stock. Nothing that blew my mind, but when the Note 2 is such a beast from the start, it's hard to say that it is, or isn't a vast improvement. This ROM also pairs well with a couple of custom kernels (Perseus and Saber are the ones I've tried). One awesome thing about that the developer of CleanROM does is package it with Aroma installer, which allows you to pick and choose what you want in the ROM.
I've only had Jedi XPX installed for a couple of hours and so far, it's really good. Seems to be smoother, but I can't really say with absolute certainty. You'll love this ROM if you're a Star Wars fan as the developer integrated some Star Wars soundbites with some of the actions. The developer also added his/her personal touches like having "Jedi X" at the bottom of the lock screen and "Deviant Development" on the notification bar as you're swiping it down. Personally, I don't care for it. As I've just loaded it, I can't really say much about battery life yet.
Seems to me that you really can't go wrong with the two I've mentioned above and the developers are active in supporting their ROMs.
JediXPX is the best fit for me, the battery life is just insane with his Saber Kernel........its stable as ****, and runs super smooth. i have been on it since Jedi 3. something or other.
i have tried them all as well, not just the top 6 and Jedi seems to be the one that has them all beat in my OP anyway. but there works of art so pick one and run away.
Skynote for me
JediXPX is the smoothest ROM I have ever used. And I go through a lot of roms lol
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What's wrong with just answering the question or not?
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N7105XXDMA6 is what I've decided to stick with for now.
Paired with Perseus kernel seem to do really well for me. I love AOSP roms but can not stand the absence of the S-Pen/S-Note features, then again, there are mods for N7105XXDMA6 that have allowed me to mimic CM 10.1 very closely with color scheme, features, CRT animation....all that good stuff!
After going through about 6 ROMs and trying them out for a day or two. The one I have settled on is Paranoid Android 3.00 for the N7105. The vast majority of this ROM is flawless. Super smooth running with zero lag, lockscreen or otherwise. PA-Colors is a really cool feature. I thought i wasn't going to care but it really evolves they seemlessnes when switching between apps, the notification bar fades into each one and is completely customizable. Photosphere doesn't work just yet. But I expect that to come in a few updates or so.
I simply hate touch-wiz. I hope I'm not alone in feeling that way. Also, after coming the the i717 running Slimbean, the stock DPI is just way to huge looking. Touch-wiz and the stock DPI doesn't make good use of the size of the screen. I like being able to scale down the entire DPI and make it look like I'm not looking at it through a magnifying glass.
Honestly I will say that I may not completely understand the power of the S-Pen but it has enough functionality in non-touchwiz roms that i don't notice it lacking. But I do miss multi window, I really do.
Im open to suggestions and skyrocket intrigues me. I think im going to check it out.
*end rant*
The Jedi series is top notch. My personal favorite. A very good stock rom but added a few things to give it a different feel. Love it.
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Jedi is really a beast. Great Bergey life and smooth as silk. Also something g that is super important very little problems and very stable. I have flashed other rooms but nothing else gave this combination. The saber kernel is amazing also. Quite a few themes that are not even built for this tomorrow flash well with it.
I have ever recently just starting g reading up on Jdevil rom and it seems to be getting rave reviews for speed and battery. It is based on the new international base and said to be super fast. People are getting huge quad scores without even oc. Something to keep an eye on.
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Skynote or Jellythunder are great.
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Is it just me or does the call quality seem to be lower on aosp roms? I have ran a couple and it seemed the same for them both, as compared to touch wiz?
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I felt the same way when I switched from stock TW to CM10.1. I'm curious to hear if others feel the same way.
Well, the thing is they're based on versions of Android that are not yet available for this phone. So the developers are creating functionality from scratch is some cases.
I believe it is a bit unfair to compare a Sprint overlay (TW) that has a monster development team being paid to developers who give their free time to offer users a taste of something that may never be offered by Sprint.
There is no need to create a thread like this, if you don't want to run it. Don't ... move on to another ROM.
Just say'n
I'm coming from the S3 where the ROM scene is frankly quite pathetic, though it's steadily improving.
How's it with the note 2? Are there any major bugs with the popular ROMs? And how's the S-Pen support in custom ROMs?
Thanks a lot!
cyanide911 said:
I'm coming from the S3 where the ROM scene is frankly quite pathetic, though it's steadily improving.
How's it with the note 2? Are there any major bugs with the popular ROMs? And how's the S-Pen support in custom ROMs?
Thanks a lot!
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I'm new here at GN2 forums (ignore the post count, I've been lurking since 2011), but I just recently came over from GN1.
I'm guessing the architecture isn't vastly different, as I saw plenty of features ported to the GN1 from the GN2 back when I was there. So far what I have observed is that there are fewer ROMS here, this is owed to the phone being newer. Also, the roms being cooked here seem relatively stable with a lot less bricking.
As for recurring problems, let's hope some veterans can chime in on that, but I haven't noticed anything major (wifi works, no sudden dials etc). All in all it feels like a very fresh scene with ever-improving innovations, not even a year old so what can we expect right. Your have a GN2 or you just curious?
I'm taking a guess and saying it's even worse here regarding "movement". There's not much left to do, anyway. It would be lovely to have proper phablet interface support in stock-based ROMs, but... Well, it's pretty much "stable" here. Maybe It'll change for a couple of weeks after we get our hands in the official 4.2 ROMs due to next month.
No major bugs. In a few, there's one obscure Wifi-to-gadget or another that no one uses that doesn't work, but it depends on the baserom it is using - you see, Samsung's original comes with those bugs. In AOSP, you should expect a little worse battery life, since we don't have Exynos's sources. But they are still pretty nice.
S-pen is supposed to work with all Stock-based ROMs. There's a nice little app called S-pen Helper if you are not using the stock Launcher, but I don't remember right now if it works with an AOSP-based ROM.
It's a somewhat boring scene here, but we have all of the must-have stuff, like less-bloaty Stock, a few ROMs (many of them based on S3's work, by the way), CM, a few KANGs, and ParanoidAndroid. I had more fun testing stuff with my long dead Motorola Defy.
ok both GN2 and GSIII have the same hardware, so the most important thing in development in my opinion is the kernel development, and here you can have whatever you have with gs3 kerenel, and and about roms, i think you also can have the same experience, keep in mind that what above posters said that there are no more things to do now incase of stock roms, and aosp, only we are waiting a strong build of tablet/phaplet rom without lags (there are good ones out there but needs minor improvements), so i think you will be fine here, the only one thing that may be slow here is porting other OS, it will be faster incase of SG3,
How can you say the scene i pathetic??? Build your own Rom and then say something. You all need to learnd to appreciate other peoples work.
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I would say it's more than decent. Sheer volume might not be mind blowing - but we have stable AOSP ROMs, plenty of excellent touchwiz ROMs, etc. - so yeah. Major touchwiz ROMs are near bug free - and AOSP ROMs have some minor bugs like with Camera etc. IIRC - other than that it's all fine.
It's worse than the S3 yet it hardly matters. This phone is a beast out of the box. Many users are happy to run a rooted stock rom with the xposed and/or simplistic frameworks installed. I am one of those people.
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This is even worse than " what's the best rom" threads.. guys s3 forums are probably the best forums on xda due to developers interest. . note 2 forums are great too we have some of the best devs out there so please learn to show some respect
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Hahaha.
A stock, unrooted Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is better than a custom ROM based Samsung Galaxy S3 actually.
Just an opinion.
Simone said:
Hahaha.
A stock, unrooted Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is better than a custom ROM based Samsung Galaxy S3 actually.
Just an opinion.
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Couldn't agree more tbh. Obviously it's tenfold better if you're rooted with custom kernel - but stock was absolutely fine for most parts on Note II.
I'm pure stock and it's a beast. Waiting for 4.2.2 and thats it. This is the first phone that I didn't touch i any way.
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I'm pure stock and it's a beast. Waiting for 4.2.2 and thats it. This is the first phone that I didn't touch i any way.
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Yeah same 4 me. Just root
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Thread closed for 2 reasons:
1. Its a best ROM thread.
2. Would it kill you to look in the Android Development forum if you wanted to know what development was like? I think my IQ dropped by 20 points just by reading the first page of this thread.