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This is a seriously, SERIOUSLY annoying problem I've discovered.
Sometimes when I open the "Downloads" section in Market my apps aren't there. Well, a few are but most aren't. And there doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason behind which ones still show up vs the ones that are missing.
I don't switch ROMs - I run Fresh (currently the latest version).
The only way I can get them to reappear is to manually search for an app I already have installed and update it if an update is available. Then POOF all of my downloads are there.
Any idea what in the HECK could be going on here? This sucks because I can't see when an update is available unless I search for the app. It's driving me nuts
Try clearing the market data.
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Try clearing the market data.
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Thanks, that did it....still wonder what the heck the cause is though.
It may have something to do with running a custom rom, bit imo the Android market still has some bugs to work out.
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It happens to me all the time. Cyanogen and I believe Ava-Froyo roms seem to download all of my 350+ apps that I have ever downloaded. Some roms only seem to "remember" or only allow me to download certain apps from the Market. I am thinking that if I don't have the option selected to download unauthorized apps from the Market, that could be one reason why. But, I have been wondering the same thing as the OP. Only a couple of the many, many roms I have used/tried will actually have "saved" all of the apps I have ever downloaded. It is a pain when it is a paid app that doesn't show up. I have to remember which ones I bought so I can re-download!
My issue wasn't the market data, but for some reason some roms when Apps are moved to the SD card it screws up what shows.
Try moving any apps on your SD card to your phone memory instead, then kill the market task and restart it
they should all show then
Same problem but with a twist
Not only do my apps keep disappearing from the market, but some apps won't aunthenticate with Googles license server, so I cannot use them! ARGH!
crows4hire said:
Not only do my apps keep disappearing from the market, but some apps won't aunthenticate with Googles license server, so I cannot use them! ARGH!
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Nice job digging up a dead thread.
drmacinyasha said:
Nice job digging up a dead thread.
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No offense, but thats what happens when we hammer on people to search before posting... (s)he did and zombied the post.
I've been having trouble with Android Market today. I can communicate with the market just fine, but nothing downloads. It either doesn't start or gets stuck a "Starting Download." Is anyone else seeing this?
I'm not having any problems installing from Amazon's App store. I even installed the Plant's Vs. Zombies freebie this morning, even though it didn't work (didn't expect it too).
Carld256 said:
I've been having trouble with Android Market today. I can communicate with the market just fine, but nothing downloads. It either doesn't start or gets stuck a "Starting Download." Is anyone else seeing this?
I'm not having any problems installing from Amazon's App store. I even installed the Plant's Vs. Zombies freebie this morning, even though it didn't work (didn't expect it too).
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Did you try clearing the Market's cache? It can be finnicky - not sure if it's our version of the Market, our build, or what's up...
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Did you try clearing the Market's cache? It can be finnicky - not sure if it's our version of the Market, our build, or what's up...
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I had not, but I found Quick Cahce Clean on Amazon's Market and used that. I'm still getting, Download starting -- Downloading -- Download Unsuccessful.
Carld256 said:
I had not, but I found Quick Cahce Clean on Amazon's Market and used that. I'm still getting, Download starting -- Downloading -- Download Unsuccessful.
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Uhm... I have no clue what that is. Perhaps try clearing out the app data the 'usual' way?
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Uhm... I have no clue what that is. Perhaps try clearing out the app data the 'usual' way?
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I don't really know what the 'usual' way to clear the market cache is. It's not in the list of apps you can clear under Manage Applications. I'm a newbie at this, so what I don't know about Android is a lot bigger than what I do.
How do you clear the cache for the market? I couldn't see any way to do it except using an app like Cache Clean.
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I don't really know what the 'usual' way to clear the market cache is. It's not in the list of apps you can clear under Manage Applications. I'm a newbie at this, so what I don't know about Android is a lot bigger than what I do.
How do you clear the cache for the market? I couldn't see any way to do it except using an app like Cache Clean.
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Just like you'd clear any other application's cache/data - in Manage Applications under Settings -> Applications...
Notice the tabs at the top. If you only stay in the 'Downloaded' tab, you'll obviously never see the Market as that wasn't downloaded...
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Just like you'd clear any other application's cache/data - in Manage Applications under Settings -> Applications...
Notice the tabs at the top. If you only stay in the 'Downloaded' tab, you'll obviously never see the Market as that wasn't downloaded...
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Well, yeah "obvious" when you know what you're doing. Sorry if I seem like a dim bulb. I really am trying to learn. Unfortunately clearing the cache that way didn't help either.
Carld256 said:
Well, yeah "obvious" when you know what you're doing. Sorry if I seem like a dim bulb. I really am trying to learn. Unfortunately clearing the cache that way didn't help either.
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Hrm. I hate to use this as a troubleshooting step, but have you tried a new data.img?
You can try renaming the old one if you want to be able to revert to it...
There's a fix_permissions script that is supposed to circumvent the need for a new data.img, not sure if it'll help you in this case or not.
I went back to an earlier copy of data.img and the market worked. So, after spending hours goggling and trying every crazy, random thing people claimed worked, I ended up redoing my phone. I copied everything off the SD card, formatted it, and installed a fresh copy of FRX06. The market works again.
I got wireless working, installed some essential files, and backed up everything to my desktop. I'll back it up every couple of days for a while so if the market goes South again, I'll have a quick fallback.
Thanks for all your help.
glad you have it working
Just a question, did u try and use Update All button in marketplace? Usually that always bugs out the downloader and causes them to get "stuck". Just Cancel all downloads and do manually one by one imo
nasapunk88 said:
glad you have it working
Just a question, did u try and use Update All button in marketplace? Usually that always bugs out the downloader and causes them to get "stuck". Just Cancel all downloads and do manually one by one imo
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I might have. But I did just what you said. I cancelled all of them and retried them one at a time, and did it over and over again many times after trying different "this works" ideas.
I had this same issue and am still having it.
I'll give this a try as well... started a few days ago when my zeam FC looped on me and I had to reinstall Froyo since I had no way of reverting to another launcher.
Thanks!
The only thing that worked for me was completely reloading the FRX06 build from scratch.
I've seen various people reporting this issue lately.
Originally Posted by MartindH
I have got a problem regarding to downloading from the Android Market.
Either a downloads keeps ongoing fore ver in the market, without any trafic going in or outor after a few seconds the error message "Download unsuccessfull" appears. I have tried several sollutions,3G, WiFi, clearing cache of Market app, reformatting and reinstalling, but nothing seems to help.
I have tried an alternative market, SAM 4.1 - SlideME Application Manager http://slideme.org and this is working perfectly. The only thing is that this market has less applications en is missing specific applications which I want to use.
Is there anybody who has got any sugestions?
Please see my signature for the build, kernel, gapps, etc. which I am using.
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I'm also having this problem. I guess I'll have to delete the data.img, though, I think I'll wait until frx07 is out.
My Market downloads started working after restoring the Market app from a backup.
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My Market downloads started working after restoring the Market app from a backup.
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can you provide info on how to do this please?
most likely he uses titanium backup (which i believe everyone does, or should).
It can saves previous versions of all app's and you can easily reinstall them to old version.
I've been reading a lot about market problems lately and i think its due to their end mostly, not ours since there are so many with issues. I hope it just "works" again soon =)
I do use Titanium backup and bought the pro version a while back to support the developer. For me, it is one of those "must have" programs, particular with the constantly changing state of xdandroid development going on here.
I can't ask in the dev forum and I don't see a General thread for this ROM. Since this seems to be the best JB rom for our phone, we probably need to have a place to discuss things outside of the Dev thread. Anyway, I have some specific things I want to ask about...
1. Lock Screen question -- Is there a way to add actions like the unlock or mute? I wanted to put the unlock in a different spot but don't know what Slider shortcut to use. I have tried looking through both the Activities and the Nova Activities. I just don't see how to do either of those two. Anyone know, short of installing another app or lock screen?
2. GMail double notification -- I may have done something wrong, but I can't find it right now. When I get a GMail email, I get two notifications. They are both the GMail symbol. And the notification drawer shows two items, one with a big chunk of the preview and one with the subject and "Important". I suspect I did something in GMail to cause this and it isn't ROM specific.
3. Pandora doesn't seem to work. I think I saw in the Dev thread mention of people having issues too. I only ever use it at work where I only have 3G, so I haven't tested on WiFi. What is irritating is that on my last ICS ROM I was running I had this issue solved by uninstalling it, rebooting and clearing caches, and reinstalling. I have tried that and fixing permissions. All in multiple orders and combinations, no luck.
Other than those three things and the standard 4G/FFC known issues, this is a great ROM. Thank you Mazda.
#1 issue.........this will come in the next update, stay tuned and it will come
#2 issue.........Try to uninstall gmail and install it again, I use gmail most then anything and I've yet to get this issue
#3 issue.........What exactly is the issue with Pandora?? If is a FC or something, could you pull a logcat and post it on pastebin and then provide me with the link?
Thanks and look forward to improving the ROM and making it great!
Mazda said:
#1 issue.........this will come in the next update, stay tuned and it will come
#2 issue.........Try to uninstall gmail and install it again, I use gmail most then anything and I've yet to get this issue
#3 issue.........What exactly is the issue with Pandora?? If is a FC or something, could you pull a logcat and post it on pastebin and then provide me with the link?
Thanks and look forward to improving the ROM and making it great!
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Great, thanks for the response.
#1, yea, it will work the way it is, I just thought the existing actions would do it and I just missed which one.
#2, thanks for that idea, don't know why I didn't think of reinstall, I guess I had it in my mind that Gmail is part of OS, not really a specific app. I just did it and will test. I am sure that will fix it since I think I did something obscure.
#3, Pandora acts like it is all working, I have logged in and have my playlists but when I select something is just doesn't play the music, sits on a song for some time (maybe buffering but not always) and then moves to the next song and tries to play that one but never does, then next song. Never playing music...
Thanks again for both responding and for the work on the ROM.
Just a thought on #2, but go in to your account settings and make sure you don't have notification settings for more than one inbox (ex. Inbox and Priority Inbox). I've had this happen in the past. Just change your account settings.
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Just a thought on #2, but go in to your account settings and make sure you don't have notification settings for more than one inbox (ex. Inbox and Priority Inbox). I've had this happen in the past. Just change your account settings.
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Sorry, I should have posted again. Reinstalling worked for me. But I think you are right in your suspecision, I think I might have had that Priority Inbox checked. Reinstalling resulted to starting over with configuring it though. I think it all started going downhill when I didn't have the sync set right, so I wasn't getting notified due to the sync not running, then start checking everything. Thanks.
Now the only mystery I have left is Pandora...
Not sure what the deal might be with Pandora. I've used it on and off in the past with mixed success. It might be worth seeing if it works with a different ROM. That might narrow down where the issue is, at least.
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3. Pandora doesn't seem to work. I think I saw in the Dev thread mention of people having issues too. I only ever use it at work where I only have 3G, so I haven't tested on WiFi. What is irritating is that on my last ICS ROM I was running I had this issue solved by uninstalling it, rebooting and clearing caches, and reinstalling. I have tried that and fixing permissions. All in multiple orders and combinations, no luck.
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From over in the Dev thread -
Pandora Discussions
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Boppy3125 said:
I can't ask in the dev forum and I don't see a General thread for this ROM. Since this seems to be the best JB rom for our phone, we probably need to have a place to discuss things outside of the Dev thread. Anyway, I have some specific things I want to ask about...
1. Lock Screen question -- Is there a way to add actions like the unlock or mute? I wanted to put the unlock in a different spot but don't know what Slider shortcut to use. I have tried looking through both the Activities and the Nova Activities. I just don't see how to do either of those two. Anyone know, short of installing another app or lock screen?
2. GMail double notification -- I may have done something wrong, but I can't find it right now. When I get a GMail email, I get two notifications. They are both the GMail symbol. And the notification drawer shows two items, one with a big chunk of the preview and one with the subject and "Important". I suspect I did something in GMail to cause this and it isn't ROM specific.
3. Pandora doesn't seem to work. I think I saw in the Dev thread mention of people having issues too. I only ever use it at work where I only have 3G, so I haven't tested on WiFi. What is irritating is that on my last ICS ROM I was running I had this issue solved by uninstalling it, rebooting and clearing caches, and reinstalling. I have tried that and fixing permissions. All in multiple orders and combinations, no luck.
Other than those three things and the standard 4G/FFC known issues, this is a great ROM. Thank you Mazda.
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Use widget locker for your lock screen needs
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if I say "paranoid android is the best JB rom "
We'll start a flame war and this isn't YouTube.
Well I haven't tried this rom nor paranoid Droid.
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I'm trying to determine whether google play services stops because of the ROM or because of xposed mods I'm using. Its happening frequently but doesn't really affect much. There's no apps crashing. Its just mildly annoying needing to dismiss the message.
Are others experiencing this? Thought it might be the app amplify so I disabled it but the message still appears. Right now my mods areEnable call recording in CM, xposed torch, greenify, and YouTube adaway.
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I'm trying to determine whether google play services stops because of the ROM or because of xposed mods I'm using. Its happening frequently but doesn't really affect much. There's no apps crashing. Its just mildly annoying needing to dismiss the message.
Are others experiencing this? Thought it might be the app amplify so I disabled it but the message still appears. Right now my mods areEnable call recording in CM, xposed torch, greenify, and YouTube adaway.
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No, you're not the only one having that issue. In the CM11 for Fire Phone thread you can see people were reporting it. At least for now, since the ROM is beta, we can't expect it to work flawlessly.
P.S.: For the next threads you open in this forum, for Fire Phone or for any other device, it'd be better if you specify if you're rooted and if you used a custom ROM. Otherwise it could cause confusion. Someone reading this question could think stock FireOS has these issues.
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No, you're not the only one having that issue. In the CM11 for Fire Phone thread you can see people were reporting it. At least for now, since the ROM is beta, we can't expect it to work flawlessly.
P.S.: For the next threads you open in this forum, for Fire Phone or for any other device, it'd be better if you specify if you're rooted and if you used a custom ROM. Otherwise it could cause confusion. Someone reading this question could think stock FireOS has these issues.
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Need root for xposed. I was gonna say xposed wouldn't work on fire os but I actually do use it on fire TV so I know that's probably not true. But you're right. Next time I'll give more details.
Beta is typically prone to bugs but I didn't get the "stopped working" message until last note, after activating xposed. Even that's not a clear cut trouble shoot because I've had ROMs run problem free for days then issues arise.
But overall, I am extremely pleased with CM 11! everything I use is working great.
On a side, off topic note, anyone found a way to install milk music on this?
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Need root for xposed. I was gonna say xposed wouldn't work on fire os but I actually do use it on fire TV so I know that's probably not true. But you're right. Next time I'll give more details.
Beta is typically prone to bugs but I didn't get the "stopped working" message until last note, after activating xposed. Even that's not a clear cut trouble shoot because I've had ROMs run problem free for days then issues arise.
But overall, I am extremely pleased with CM 11! everything I use is working great.
On a side, off topic note, anyone found a way to install milk music on this?
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That's weird. I'm using CM11 too, rooted and with Xposed and I don't get the "stopped working" notification. Maybe it's another thing. I remember that when I installed the Android Wear app Google Play Services crashed every 2 seconds (no joke, and no fun).
And about Milk Music, isn't that like asking for Live on YouTube - By Xperia™ to be available on non-Sony phones?
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That's weird. I'm using CM11 too, rooted and with Xposed and I don't get the "stopped working" notification. Maybe it's another thing. I remember that when I installed the Android Wear app Google Play Services crashed every 2 seconds (no joke, and no fun).
And about Milk Music, isn't that like asking for Live on YouTube - By Xperia™ to be available on non-Sony phones?
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There's an xposed mod called chocolate milk that enables milk to run on many devices but far as I can see its a little dated and not sure which version works (the newest apk from playstore does not install),or if its even supported anymore. Not something I need but trying some new things.
Edit--actually I'm not 100% on the play store apk because I couldn't get apk downloader to fetch it on my Mac. I did pull a couple from other sources and those didn't work.
Oops- this was supposed to be for Milk Music install. Sorry guys!0 uhhh...Nevermind. I'm good.
I tried this way-
http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-t...music-app-any-android-no-root-needed-0158456/
The apk's did install, I was able to open the milk app, but no sound would play and it prompted that this version was no longer supported and to download the newest version from the play store. This might work for anyone om CM 11, but I couldn't get to the play store to update, it always links you to amazon store. When I opened the play store it wouldn't show to download. There are tricks to change build props with root explorer if you google it. I am not rooted yet so I can''t give it a try. If you click a blank spot the pop up would go away, but the sound wouldn't play.
Inexplicable autonomous app update behavior when plugged in & wifi on. A real puzzle.
Facts:
1) Two phones, Pixel 3 and 3 XL, latest patches. Both rooted, running ElementalX and Magisk. Both have same apps installed and settings.
2) Playstore "Auto-update" is disabled, set to "Don't auto-update apps".
3) Play Protect is fully disabled.
4) TiBu has no scheduled jobs
5) No threat/system scanner running
Behavior background:
1) Started noticing a few months ago (so not a patch update issue).
2) Happens only when phone is charging and wifi on (I have wifi set to turn on when plugged in, I have not isolated whether it is caused by one or the other, or both).
3) Seems to happen around/between 10:20 PM and 11:20 PM PST, based on file timestamp.
4) Does not happen every night. I charge the phone (therefore wifi turns on during charge) every night). I have not been able to find a pattern.
The strange behavior I cannot explain:
1) When it happens, a few (can be 1, 2, or 5) apps are found to have been updated on their own.
2) However, these apps are not shown updated in the Playstore and their version remained the same.
3) When I go to data/app, these apps look like they are updated based on time/date stamp (from the night before).
4) However, their version number has not changed, Playstore does not show a recent update.
5) It does not matter when the app was last truly updated or installed. Even disabled app will get this "ghost re-install/update". Apps seem to be picked randomly.
In sum, I find a few apps that get randomly self-updated, but they were really not updated. The version has changed and Playstore does not know anything about it (not on update list). Also, version has not changed. In fact, though, their timestamp show that it was updated.
Here is the kicker--I see the behavior in both phones. AND, they are the same (at least about the same list of) apps that get the "ghost update". If I don't plug in one phone to charge (and wifi not on), that phone does not get the update until the next time it is plugged in.
W-T-F???
What are the apps? Is it always the same ones?
Seemingly random apps, both user-installed and system (e.g., Chrome, Data Transfer Tool). I have not been able to detect a pattern on which app gets this ghost update. I started noticing this late December, best guess.
I almost don't want to even bring this issue back up since I haven't noticed it in a couple of months. I was noticing it a lot on all 6 of my devices (including Pixel 3XL and Pixel 3) because I would go to Titanium Backup and see apps showing as due for backup of a new version. Nothing showed in Play Store, and the App description on Play showed the same version as before with the old last updated date. Either they have fixed it or hidden it better, but it seamed to be some sort of security patch at an app level. Here are a couple of old threads including my Google thread and a couple of reddit threads. I still have an open support case on it, but since it stopped happening and different folks at Google kept ignoring my replies to the man suggesting stupid-a$$ things (like factory resetting my devices and signing off and on with a new user on different devices) I just dropped it.
P.S. I never did notice the plugged in thing, but that is not to say it wasn't happening. I was asleep when it happened as far as I know.
https://productforums.google.com/fo...rce=footer#!msg/play/Pgzokc69Qt8/9V1n27ONBwAJ
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
Found this, too, but it's from 2013: https://arstechnica.com/information...ng-android-apps-possibly-including-facebooks/
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I almost don't want to even bring this issue back up since I haven't noticed it in a couple of months. I was noticing it a lot on all 6 of my devices (including Pixel 3XL and Pixel 3) because I would go to Titanium Backup and see apps showing as due for backup of a new version. Nothing showed in Play Store, and the App description on Play showed the same version as before with the old last updated date. Either they have fixed it or hidden it better, but it seamed to be some sort of security patch at an app level. Here are a couple of old threads including my Google thread and a couple of reddit threads. I still have an open support case on it, but since it stopped happening and different folks at Google kept ignoring my replies to the man suggesting stupid-a$$ things (like factory resetting my devices and signing off and on with a new user on different devices) I just dropped it.
P.S. I never did notice the plugged in thing, but that is not to say it wasn't happening. I was asleep when it happened as far as I know.
https://productforums.google.com/fo...rce=footer#!msg/play/Pgzokc69Qt8/9V1n27ONBwAJ
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
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Found this, too, but it's from 2013: https://arstechnica.com/information...ng-android-apps-possibly-including-facebooks/
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Many thanks for the links. This is exactly what I am seeing. One of the posts in the link described the install as exact same apk and version. It is also what I see. It still does not explain what is going on behind the scenes, but at least it is good to know that I am not the only one seeing this. For most people, they are not aware. I see it because I use a backup app for newly installed apps. As such, everytime an app installed or updated, I get a notification.
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Many thanks for the links. This is exactly what I am seeing. One of the posts in the link described the install as exact same apk and version. It is also what I see. It still does not explain what is going on behind the scenes, but at least it is good to know that I am not the only one seeing this. For most people, they are not aware. I see it because I use a backup app for newly installed apps. As such, everytime an app installed or updated, I get a notification.
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No problem. I do wonder if your devices are new. As I mentioned, I have not seen this behavior in months on any of my devices. I do think it was an in place Google side security patch to the actual app installer or something that they can control from Play without modifying the app code itself, and if yours have not been modified yet it will catch up when it finishes all of the apps that need it.
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No problem. I do wonder if your devices are new. As I mentioned, I have not seen this behavior in months on any of my devices. I do think it was an in place Google side security patch to the actual app installer or something that they can control from Play without modifying the app code itself, and if yours have not been modified yet it will catch up when it finishes all of the apps that need it.
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Both of my devices were pre-order (from last year) and were activated as soon as I received them. Some of the newer apps that were updated this way were newer, like Pixel Tips and Data Transfer Tool. Apps like SmartThings, Lutron, and Pushover were recently updated normally through Playstore, but they were ghost updated a few days ago. If the theory were true, on these basis, it is unclear why Google would need to/want to update/re-update the apps this way.
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Both of my devices were pre-order (from last year) and were activated as soon as I received them. Some of the newer apps that were updated this way were newer, like Pixel Tips and Data Transfer Tool. Apps like SmartThings, Lutron, and Pushover were recently updated normally through Playstore, but they were ghost updated a few days ago. If the theory were true, on these basis, it is unclear why Google would need to/want to update/re-update the apps this way.
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Well the fact that your devices are a hair older than mine (I got my 3XL and 3 very shortly after public release) does quash that argument. The one thing I can think of that is still different is the detection method each of us has used. TB has been updated a few times in the past couple of months to start, and even if not Google could still be making changes that are not seen by TB. What backup app/notification process are you using?
Are these all Google apps or services? Many of them update outside of the app store on their own.
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Are these all Google apps or services? Many of them update outside of the app store on their own.
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No, it has happened to plenty of 3rd party apps both root apps and not.
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Well the fact that your devices are a hair older than mine (I got my 3XL and 3 very shortly after public release) does quash that argument. The one thing I can think of that is still different is the detection method each of us has used. TB has been updated a few times in the past couple of months to start, and even if not Google could still be making changes that are not seen by TB. What backup app/notification process are you using?
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Two apps I use that tells me when an app was installed/updated:
App Monster Pro ** "old version" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.think_android.apps.appmonster.cloud
The current PS version, based on reviews, does not do what the old version does. The old version, which I continue to use, and works well, will make a backup of the installed apk any time an app is updated or installed. I can decide the number of revisions to keep. This allows me to roll back if I need to. The most helpful part, as it turns out, is knowing when an app is updated--even Playstore or other non-Playstore-installed apps will spawn a notification. The backup is in a plain apk, which makes it easy to transport and share.
The other tool is My Android Tools Pro -- https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-android-toolspro-one-fav-apps-t3262150
This app allows me to cut off broadcast receivers, disable services, manifest apk activities and content providers. It also includes a logcat viewer, process explorers, and more. Root is required. This app refined over time but was taken off of the Playstore. It does not appear to be maintained anymore, but still works well. I sort the app list based on newly installed apps and it clearly shows me what was truly and recently installed. I use the app to cut off broadcast receivers and services that relate to app measurement, install referrer, etc. For some apps, I cut off the startup receiver. They help to keep occasionally used apps from launching needlessly. Other may have opinions, but these methods work well for me.
Lastly, I used Root Explorer to verify the app install dates (per post 1).
TonikJDK said:
Are these all Google apps or services? Many of them update outside of the app store on their own.
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Adding to post #3, they are both Google and 3rd-party apps. The publisher of the app does not appear to matter.
snovvman said:
Two apps I use that tells me when an app was installed/updated:
App Monster Pro ** "old version" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.think_android.apps.appmonster.cloud
The current PS version, based on reviews, does not do what the old version does. The old version, which I continue to use, and works well, will make a backup of the installed apk any time an app is updated or installed. I can decide the number of revisions to keep. This allows me to roll back if I need to. The most helpful part, as it turns out, is knowing when an app is updated--even Playstore or other non-Playstore-installed apps will spawn a notification. The backup is in a plain apk, which makes it easy to transport and share.
The other tool is My Android Tools Pro -- https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-android-toolspro-one-fav-apps-t3262150
This app allows me to cut off broadcast receivers, disable services, manifest apk activities and content providers. It also includes a logcat viewer, process explorers, and more. Root is required. This app refined over time but was taken off of the Playstore. It does not appear to be maintained anymore, but still works well. I sort the app list based on newly installed apps and it clearly shows me what was truly and recently installed. I use the app to cut off broadcast receivers and services that relate to app measurement, install referrer, etc. For some apps, I cut off the startup receiver. They help to keep occasionally used apps from launching needlessly. Other may have opinions, but these methods work well for me.
Lastly, I used Root Explorer to verify the app install dates (per post 1).
Adding to post #3, they are both Google and 3rd-party apps. The publisher of the app does not appear to matter.
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Starting to look more and more like Google is still making changes in the background but it is not being detected by any current backup apps. Since the two you were using have either been deprecated or abandoned, it's hard to say if Google has actually changed what was being updated or just the possibility of detection. Short of someone getting into the app code for a hard comparison between pre/post versions (beyond my skill set for sure), my guess is this is going to go unanswered since Google is clearly still making changes but not releasing the "why" or "what."
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Starting to look more and more like Google is still making changes in the background but it is not being detected by any current backup apps. Since the two you were using have either been deprecated or abandoned, it's hard to say if Google has actually changed what was being updated or just the possibility of detection. Short of someone getting into the app code for a hard comparison between pre/post versions (beyond my skill set for sure), my guess is this is going to go unanswered since Google is clearly still making changes but not releasing the "why" or "what."
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I agree. What I can say with certainty is that those apps were at least "reinstalled" because of the folder/file dates. Also, my two phones are seeing the same apps being updated. This suggests that there are some logic behind it.
snovvman said:
I agree. What I can say with certainty is that those apps were at least "reinstalled" because of the folder/file dates. Also, my two phones are seeing the same apps being updated. This suggests that there are some logic behind it.
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Yeah, the "updates" my not have happened at the same time (or even the same day) but eventually the apps that are shared on various devices would end up modified for me as well.
FSTRIM?
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FSTRIM?
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I am not using the FSTRIM app, and the fact that eventually all of the same apps (6 devices on various Android versions) would end up getting updated but not all apps makes it unlikely that native trimming is causing it.