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I just flashed my Kaiser with Fat Free Froyo RLS5. I really like the Android OS, but the lack of functionality is bothersome. I can't type into the Google search bar that is on the desktop, the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor. I've only been using it for about an hour and already found all these problems so I can image that there are more.
All I am looking for it a version of Android that will allow me to use the camera, browse my SD card from my PC, and has a working WiFi. Speed is also a concern.
If I could get some suggestions I would be appreciative.
Thank you.
lemminman said:
I just flashed my Kaiser with Fat Free Froyo RLS5. I really like the Android OS, but the lack of functionality is bothersome. I can't type into the Google search bar that is on the desktop, the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor. I've only been using it for about an hour and already found all these problems so I can image that there are more.
All I am looking for it a version of Android that will allow me to use the camera, browse my SD card from my PC, and has a working WiFi. Speed is also a concern.
If I could get some suggestions I would be appreciative.
Thank you.
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Camera not working is related to your kernel/radio rom. Also you could use not so super froyo if you want the same with more features. If you want more speed I suggest a Cyanogen based rom as these are the fastest currently. I suggest changing your kernel to l1qu1ds latest .32 kernel via the thread that is stickied at the top.
USB to pc is not working through my computer right now but adb is at least. What I do for data transfer is just use System on NAND and Data on SD and use a card reader for the data.
Lastly, remember that android on the Kaiser is by no means perfect and is still more or less of a thing to be like "Look what my old phone can do!" thing. If you want everything perfect then Windows mobile has that already. Otherwise if you want a cooler newer OS on your phone then its going to take a little time for us. We have come a long ways but not all the way there yet.
lemminman said:
I just flashed my Kaiser with Fat Free Froyo RLS5. I really like the Android OS, but the lack of functionality is bothersome. I can't type into the Google search bar that is on the desktop, the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor. I've only been using it for about an hour and already found all these problems so I can image that there are more.
All I am looking for it a version of Android that will allow me to use the camera, browse my SD card from my PC, and has a working WiFi. Speed is also a concern.
If I could get some suggestions I would be appreciative.
Thank you.
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the search bar will work if you download google search from the market, it was removed since it can be installed from the market, fat free is fully functional you just have to work to get it going out of the gate, now in contrast not so super froyo is ready to go from the get go
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the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor.
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I am using Fat Free Froyo RLS5 and all that stuff works for me.
USB to PC works perfectly in linux It works for me on windows 7 too, but you just have to wait a long time (maybe 2-5 mins) for the computer to recognise it.
To change the alarm volume just roll the jog wheel while in that menu (or press whatever buttons you have assigned to volume up/down)
Thanks for the help, guys.
I suggest changing your kernel to l1qu1ds latest .32 kernel via the thread that is stickied at the top
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That is the kernel I have. My radio is version 1.65 something.
What I do for data transfer is just use System on NAND and Data on SD and use a card reader for the data.
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I don't have a card reader; that is why this is important to me. Are there any Android versions that this works, or an app that I can install even?
Lastly, remember that android on the Kaiser is by no means perfect [...]
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The only reason I don't want WMP is because it is ridiculously slow to respond. I had heard that Android was much faster so I am giving it a try.
the search bar will work if you download google search from the market
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That part really isn't a big deal; I probably would never even use it. It was just one of the many small glitches I was noticing during normal use. Things like there being no way to bring the phone back from sleeping except the power button (not even opening it!). At one point, when it is just sitting on my desk, the screen turned white and the phone was completely unresponsive. I had to hard reset it. They keyboard works except when dialing a number where it seems completely random.
If there is a workaround to these things, I'm fine with doing some personalizing, but if not, I would like to know if there are flavors that don't have these kinds of issues.
I think I will try Cyanogen like you suggested and see if I like it any better.
Thanks again for the help.
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Thanks for the help, guys.
That is the kernel I have. My radio is version 1.65 something.
I don't have a card reader; that is why this is important to me. Are there any Android versions that this works, or an app that I can install even?
The only reason I don't want WMP is because it is ridiculously slow to respond. I had heard that Android was much faster so I am giving it a try.
That part really isn't a big deal; I probably would never even use it. It was just one of the many small glitches I was noticing during normal use. Things like there being no way to bring the phone back from sleeping except the power button (not even opening it!). At one point, when it is just sitting on my desk, the screen turned white and the phone was completely unresponsive. I had to hard reset it. They keyboard works except when dialing a number where it seems completely random.
If there is a workaround to these things, I'm fine with doing some personalizing, but if not, I would like to know if there are flavors that don't have these kinds of issues.
I think I will try Cyanogen like you suggested and see if I like it any better.
Thanks again for the help.
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the white screen is a known issue apparently overclocking improves this
White screen is present when the system didn't draw the screen before it power up.
When you overclock the system is faster so it spend less time to draw the interface.
Sometimes you have with screen when the system sleep but it can't resume because the main app crashes.
To change the alarm volume just roll the jog wheel while in that menu
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This changes "Ring volume" regardless of what I have opened.
Thanks for all the input, everyone.
I have tried four different Android builds now and I haven't gotten a USB data connection with any of them. I noticed that one of them had a Network option, as though I might be able to browse files of computers on the network which would solve my problem. Unfortunately, that particular build just says "Error" when I try to turn WiFi on.
Is there an android app I can install that will allow me to transfer files between my phone and a PC? That is really the number one priority right now. To test these Android builds I have been reverting back to WMP every time I want to try a different one because I need to put the androidinstall.tar onto my card. I tried loading a bunch of different ones on the card to avoid this, but I get "Permission denied" when I try to rename a file in the andboot folder.
Thanks again.
The forum search tool will answer all those questions I know I have answered it atleast 500000 times
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I have a kaiser with froyo kernel 2.6.32 date 9.9.2010 I have overclocked with atools to 500 mhz and also overclocked the GPU, battery is standard setting. My radio is Neon 1.65.24.36 Together with thoughtlesskyle`s (thank you!!) fat free release 5, i have a very stable situation here. I have to admit i am not a heavy user. Merely phonecalls and sms (or whatsup) and sygic navigation software . I only have to reboot once a week. I am not sure why, maybe because i use cachemate once a while.
For connection between pc and kaiser i use SD Share Dual Mount. It works perfectly. I had flashed the latest kernel(s) of l1q1d because of the alleged stable reboots. I am sad that i did not have stable reboots, it got stuck and i had to reinstall my apk`s again. And most important for me, the SD Share did not work with the latest kernel(s), thats why i reverted back to the 9.9.2010 one.
As for the white screen, it only happens to me if my kaiser goes asleep and i awake it immediately. If i take some seconds between asleep and awakening, it`s okay.
I have to thank many people here to be able to use my kaiser like i bought it yesterday or so. Maybe someone can try my settings and profit from it, like i do.
Shayer said:
I have a kaiser with froyo kernel 2.6.32 date 9.9.2010 I have overclocked with atools to 500 mhz and also overclocked the GPU, battery is standard setting. My radio is Neon 1.65.24.36 Together with thoughtlesskyle`s (thank you!!) fat free release 5, i have a very stable situation here. I have to admit i am not a heavy user. Merely phonecalls and sms (or whatsup) and sygic navigation software . I only have to reboot once a week. I am not sure why, maybe because i use cachemate once a while.
For connection between pc and kaiser i use SD Share Dual Mount. It works perfectly. I had flashed the latest kernel(s) of l1q1d because of the alleged stable reboots. I am sad that i did not have stable reboots, it got stuck and i had to reinstall my apk`s again. And most important for me, the SD Share did not work with the latest kernel(s), thats why i reverted back to the 9.9.2010 one.
As for the white screen, it only happens to me if my kaiser goes asleep and i awake it immediately. If i take some seconds between asleep and awakening, it`s okay.
I have to thank many people here to be able to use my kaiser like i bought it yesterday or so. Maybe someone can try my settings and profit from it, like i do.
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Well at least the white screen is being worked on, see the thread I made.
Even after uninstalling it with titanium backup,root explorer and native android in menu it keeps popping up in notification bar with these ill-effects:
It closes out any apps or programs I was using!
It automatically puts me on speaker when I make or receive calls
Screen orientation cannot be disabled
Screen lock cannot be disabled
Volume is lowered when playing music
stays at the same volume and cannot be adjusted.
Some suggestions were to disable automatic startup and bluetooth in Car Home's menus when it pops up, I did not see such option. Now the menu does not pop up anymore, only the steering wheel icon pops up in notification bar to let me know its here to make my day a living hell again. Everyday, Every Hour, Every minute. I've done full wipe,cache,dalvik, and reinstall of cm6 6.1.2 and it just wont GO AWAY! Please HELP!
I have the same thing. silly thing keeps poping up. trying somethings if i get it to stop ill let you know. let me know if you get it to stop
Go into a roms zip file, find carhome apk, delete it and wipe and flash. I'm not sure if this will work since I don't know if you have to change the code too
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
Or use Root Explorer and go to /system/app and delete it there. I never used it anyway.
I had that same problem on that rom
I found 2 carhome apk's in my system apps. I deleted both but then had fc's.
So I'm curious off you find a solution
Swyped from a galaxy far far away......
thanks i tried that did not work. just done got a older nan backup and put it ok it seems ok for now.
thanks m8
car home is a virus
i tried. i lookd into the roms, cm7 rc1 n rc2 n none of them have it. i figured if i delete the car home apk off gapps.hdpi.zip file it would work.. since thats the only other place its located in. nothing. it still pops up. i being dealing with thins for the last week. i did everythin. clean factory wipe, went from cm7 to cm6 in all the versions available. n nothing. car home still pops up.
other known issues that i think might be connected;
calls are answered with speaker on.
when usb is connected, the notification does not give you the option to mount sd (only in cm7 rc1 n rc2)
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i tried. i lookd into the roms, cm7 rc1 n rc2 n none of them have it. i figured if i delete the car home apk off gapps.hdpi.zip file it would work.. since thats the only other place its located in. nothing. it still pops up. i being dealing with thins for the last week. i did everythin. clean factory wipe, went from cm7 to cm6 in all the versions available. n nothing. car home still pops up.
other known issues that i think might be connected;
calls are answered with speaker on.
when usb is connected, the notification does not give you the option to mount sd (only in cm7 rc1 n rc2)
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gapps.hdpi.zip? WTF? Quit running your own GApps. Wipe everything, get RC2, flash 20110307 GApps and go from there. Solves all problems.
Not sure if this will help you much but I had this same problem once and ended up unrooting my phone and even then it did it so I went into a sprint store and they replaced it free of charge.
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Even after uninstalling it with titanium backup,root explorer and native android in menu it keeps popping up in notification bar with these ill-effects:
It closes out any apps or programs I was using!
It automatically puts me on speaker when I make or receive calls
Screen orientation cannot be disabled
Screen lock cannot be disabled
Volume is lowered when playing music
stays at the same volume and cannot be adjusted.
Some suggestions were to disable automatic startup and bluetooth in Car Home's menus when it pops up, I did not see such option. Now the menu does not pop up anymore, only the steering wheel icon pops up in notification bar to let me know its here to make my day a living hell again. Everyday, Every Hour, Every minute. I've done full wipe,cache,dalvik, and reinstall of cm6 6.1.2 and it just wont GO AWAY! Please HELP!
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i flashed to Sense then updated PRL, then Profile. Then i flashed back to CM6 its bn working eversince
i rather make my own gapps n take my chances than just sit here n do nothing. however, i am working unrooting my phone and rerooting it again. if that doesnt work.. then its back to the sprint store
I did a full wipe and reflashed CM7 RC2 along with the gapps that came with it, and so far no problems *knocks on wood*.
I had this problem and found that the culprit was pocket lint lodged in the phone's usb port--grounding out one or more pins.
I read a post about a guy who made his own car dock cable by grounding pin4, auto-triggering car home, like the real evo car dock, whenever he connected his cable.
I got thinking and grabbed out my jewlers loupe and saw some crud at the base of the usb jack. With the battery removed I got a slender sewing needle and bent the tip slightly with a plires to make an "r" shaped hook.
I gently scraped around the bottom and edges of the usb jack on the phone with the needle and pulled out a years worth of greazy lint crud that literally wedged against the pins, no doubt grounding out one or more of them, thus kicking up the car dock shenanigans. Seriously, a lot of lint.
Once the dock issue showed up, prior to cleaning the jack, the car home app showed up EVery time i plugged in usb.
I havent seen car home nonsense at all since cleaning out the jack.
prior to cleaning i called sprint having read about others doing the same. Without much hassle they sent me a warranty refurb (with 2.3.3 installed) to replace mine,
With a clean jack, i can send them back the refurb and keep mine as is.
hope this helps
So cleaning the USB jack solved the Car Dock app nonsense, that app is no longer popping up. However at present the phone is still defaulting to Speaker Phone ON for outgoing and incoming calls.. Will try reflashing etc later on to see if it has an effect
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So cleaning the USB jack solved the Car Dock app nonsense, that app is no longer popping up. However at present the phone is still defaulting to Speaker Phone ON for outgoing and incoming calls.. Will try reflashing etc later on to see if it has an effect
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107759
A story of how I fixed this problem over a month ago. Refer to post 5.
It's actually a hardware issue. There is a circuit on the EVO board that is fried. Of course sprint won't acknowledge this but have seen it happen on other phones.
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It's actually a hardware issue. There is a circuit on the EVO board that is fried. Of course sprint won't acknowledge this but have seen it happen on other phones.
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My circuit board fried, then fixed itself?
I would be interested in where you got this information from.
Sprint does acknowledge this. I have the same issue and thought i solved it by cleaning the USB jack--not so.
I was just in the sprint store the other day with my faulty phone and after some digging the tech found a bug report titiled something like "speaker phone always on" in their bug database. Recommendations in that bug report were to clean usb leads and if that doesnt solve, replace the phone.
Sprint offered to replace mine without too much hassle and shipped a refurb overnight, but the new phone came with gingnerbread and is therefore unrootable (at the time of this post), so i started looking for another solution--to disalbe the dock features entirely.
I came across the app NoDock, which loads a kernel module that interupts communication between the dock sensor and the OS, preventing the dock & speakerphone shenanigans.
I dug around in adb shell a bit and found the kernel module being loaded by the NoDock app.
Its located in /data/data/com.nothize.free.nodock/files/ and titled "nodockm_2_6_37_4_cyanogenmod_01388_g0374804.ko"
I was able to load this module by hand as SU in adb shell with the following:
#su
#insmod /data/data/com.nothize.free.nodock/files/nodockm_2_6_37_4_cyanogenmod_01388_g0374804.ko
I will work on moving this module out of the NoDock app directory and see if i can get it to load on-boot without needing the timelimited APK. No offense to the app's author, just not interested in a pay to play 'app' that loads simply loads a kernel module that can be loaded with a simple script etc or by hand.
I already sent the gingerbread phone back to sprint and will stick with this solution for the time being.
Hope this helps anyone with similar problems.
Well you're not offending me, you're just thinking in a different way than I'm and (if) you haven't leave any destructive comments about it.
What the app worth is really the kernel module.......the app interface however, provides settings that may serve other use cases.
I wrote the kernel module myself, but not ripped off from anything else, so you cannot say that you are not willing to pay for just the "app" that loads the kernel module. In fact, you're paying the novel ideas and the novel kernel module too that took most of the time for the research to make it works for various phones including S2. You can read more if you have visited my website. So if you got the knowledge and skills, as I've already documented how I am doing this, you should be able to write your own kernel module.
The free trial app was a free app a long time ago......until I felt offending by some "free version users". They emailed me for support, they left silly comments, complains and complains out of a reason. I lost my hope to them while the paid users have so much better quality.
And you're lucky to extract the old free trial version....IIRC, the expire has been introduced to the kernel module too since some version.
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No offense to the app's author, just not interested in a pay to play 'app' that loads simply loads a kernel module that can be loaded with a simple script etc or by hand.
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I had the same issue. Turned out that my issue wasn't a piece of pocket lint in the USB jack (which DOES cause the same issue)....instead it was a bent pin in my charger. I bought a new charger for $3 on Ebay and I have never had the issue since then. Common sense tells you that if you've gone through all avenues of software issues and the problem is still recurring then you need to start looking at physical aspects of the phone. In this case, the device that triggers car home automatically......aka the USB port and anything connected to it.
the very bottom of my touch screen (i'd say about 1/4" of it) sometimes doesn't respond when touched, i say sometime, but really its only in a few apps, in the Facebook app i cant check my notifications unless i use the scroll pad, in Gmail i cant delete a message unless i switch to landscape, at first i thought it was the touchscreen, but the app drawer launcher opens ass it should, the space bar on the soft keyboard works as it should, i can scroll through the market if i swipe from bottom up, which leads me to believe its some sort of software error... has anyone else had this problem? if so, do you know how to fix it?
also, I've tried it in different roms (stock, cm 6.1) and have rebooted several times but to no avail
thanks in advance
I here that the radio effects all driver so you could try to flash a new one. Make sure it doesnt undo the root though!
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I here that the radio effects all driver so you could try to flash a new one. Make sure it doesnt undo the root though!
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well, ive tried several different things... basically I ended up completely reverting back to the stock PC10IMG... i am now running stock, ota, no root... basically out of the box plus a minutes, but alas, my touch screen is still doing the same, I've gone through several apps and from i can tell, the majority of the ones that give me issues are the stock ones (i.e. gmail, facebook, voice, etc) and some third party ones (andy 83; the entire bottom row doesn't work which makes it useless as a calculator, wordfued free). Im really not sure how to proceed from here seeing as it seems contained in several apps, but not in the system as a whole... i guess i can live with it, its annoying, but not unuseable
Hey all,
I'm using the iBolt car dock with my S3. I've updated to 4.3 and my S3 would still launched Car Home Ultra until about a week ago. The only correlation I can make is I was playing with the Day Dream feature and since then it wouldn't launch CHU. I tried clearing the default setting on CHU to get the launch application choice again, but it didn't work. I can tell that it is recognizing the dock as I get the sound and the home screen rotates to landscape. I've read that 4.2 remove the home button link to CHU but I didn't think that would change the ability to launch CHU. I've tried using the custom APK to change the home button function but it still goes back to the home screen and not CHU.
Is there anything that someone can think of to try? I have rooted my phone and have access to Root Explorer and SQLite editor, so I can do some troubleshooting if I know where to look.
TIA!
-Shawn
Well, I spent yesterday and last night rebuilding from a factory reset and no difference. Is this even an option anymore for an application to launch when a dock is connected? If someone can tell me that, it would be most helpful.
It's just odd that it worked after the update to 4.3 and then it stopped.
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Hi Shawn, I am with iBOLT. Also try to download the new DockMode Control app we just made available on Google Play, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iboltdockmode.carhome&hl=en It simply starts the "DockMode" app like Dock'n Drive, Ulysse Speedometer or the CHU app. If it does not work with our cable, it will work with an NFC tag. Let me know how this works out...
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This is fantastic! This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much!
Now if you could go and tap Braden and let him know the cable he send me didn't fix the cellular data noise issue, I'd be even more happy.
I've been having an issue with my Z2 Force that I've never had with any of my other phones. For some reason, it acts like I'm hitting the home button, even when I'm not touching it. I could be using a web browser, the XBox app, or any other app and it will go back to whatever launcher I have set as default. It doesn't close the app, it just minimizes it. I've tried disabling the home button for navigating & use the touch buttons instead, and when that didn't work I tried doing a factory reset. Well, it's still doing it, and I'm to the point where I'm very tempted to try to use one of the rooting methods I was able to find online, one of which does mention the specific model of my Verizon variant (XT1789-01). I can live without root if needed, but this 'phantom home button pressing' thing is driving me nuts. Any help is appreciated, and thanks.
I have 4 Moto Z2 Force in my house, 2 of them (Android 9, Verizon version) have this same issue.
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I have 4 Moto Z2 Force in my house, 2 of them (Android 9, Verizon version) have this same issue.
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I'm still working on getting myself to go through with trying the root method I found. I think it'd work, but my main issue would be with making sure I can find a rooted ROM for the phone. Assuming the method works and I don't bork my phone, I'd still need a different ROM to install in order to determine if it's a hardware issue or software based. By the way, on the chance you're thinking of trying to remove the screen protector, be aware it is realllllllly stuck on there. I almost pulled my screen off, but I was able to remove it & was rewarded with a bunch of left over residue.
At any rate, if I do actually get myself to do the root thing, I'll be sure to post my results here.
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I'm still working on getting myself to go through with trying the root method I found. I think it'd work, but my main issue would be with making sure I can find a rooted ROM for the phone. Assuming the method works and I don't bork my phone, I'd still need a different ROM to install in order to determine if it's a hardware issue or software based. By the way, on the chance you're thinking of trying to remove the screen protector, be aware it is realllllllly stuck on there. I almost pulled my screen off, but I was able to remove it & was rewarded with a bunch of left over residue.
At any rate, if I do actually get myself to do the root thing, I'll be sure to post my results here.
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I use the ROM stock so isn't the root that cause the problem, but I hope you find the way, my only hope is on you, actually ):
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I use the ROM stock so isn't the root that cause the problem, but I hope you find the way, my only hope is on you, actually ):
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My concern is whether the root method I found is legit or not. The only reason why I want to attempt it is because the description mentions the specific model of my phone. All variants of the Z2 Force start with XT789-, but it's the number after the '-' you have to look for, and for Verizon users is '01'. Rooting the phone will let me install a different version of Android that should help me narrow down the cause of the glitch. Since your phone is doing the same thing mine is, it's more-than-likely not due to an app, so it has to be either the OS or a hardware thing.
Maybe a downgrade to 8.0 will make it, this bug is so annoying
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Maybe a downgrade to 8.0 will make it, this bug is so annoying
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It's possible that might work, but either way I still need to be able to root the thing and find a ROM made for the Verizon model. My phone has only been doing this for a couple weeks or so, but before that it would actually fully close certain apps (gsam Battery Monitor, RadioU, Taskbar, and some others). However, I more than less fixed that by setting the timers for those apps to 23 hrs.
How did you set the timers? That fixed the problem of minimizing the apps?
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How did you set the timers? That fixed the problem of minimizing the apps?
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The reason why I tried setting timers on certain apps was because they were being killed automatically, this was before the 'phantom' home button thing. The following steps may/may not resolve your current issue, but you can try them if you'd like:
1. Go to Settings
2. Apps & notifications
3. Screen time
4. At the bottom, you'll see a few apps listed, and a an option to show all of your apps. Select 'Show all apps', then the app you want to set the timer for.
5. Next to each app you'll see a little hour glass. If it's empty, then there is currently not timer set. If you'd like to set a timer, tap the hour glass, then set your desired time.
Again, I did all this well before my phone started acting like I was hitting the home button in an effort to get it to stop closing my favorite apps. For the most part, it worked, but the automatic closing thing only started after the upgrade to Android 9. I did find a site where I could download a previous stock ROM, but without root it may/will re-update again. There's an app that let's you prevent updates, but the phone has to be rooted in order for the app to work. I can't really remember the name app right now, but I used to use it on my Note 4. I think there was also a way to do it through the command line in Windows (might've worked in Linux, too), or it might've been a combination of an app and the command line.
In any case, the root method I thought I'd found wasn't really all that instructive, and I need to make sure I can actually fully unlock the boot loader before attempting root. If I can't unlock it, then whatever root method I try won't stick. The auto home button thing, at least on my phone, seems to be random, though. Sometimes it'll be fairly soon after opening an app, other times the app will stay open for a good while before going back to the home screen.
Well, like I said, I have other 2 Moto Z2 Force but they are Sprint or whatever the carrier are. They don't have the phantom home button problem. But they are in Android 8. I actually don't have a problem on click the multitasking button to go back to the app but the problem is on the games and that stuff. So if I go back to Android 8 the system will update automatically to 9? I didn't know that, I thought that it was volunteer hahaha. Btw I don't even know how to downgrade since I'm not a moto user of all life. This is my first experience with a moto phone and it sucks. . Hahaha actually the home button problem happen.
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Well, like I said, I have other 2 Moto Z2 Force but they are Sprint or whatever the carrier are. They don't have the phantom home button problem. But they are in Android 8. I actually don't have a problem on click the multitasking button to go back to the app but the problem is on the games and that stuff. So if I go back to Android 8 the system will update automatically to 9? I didn't know that, I thought that it was volunteer hahaha. Btw I don't even know how to downgrade since I'm not a moto user of all life. This is my first experience with a moto phone and it sucks. . Hahaha actually the home button problem happen.
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It may not immediately update the OS after a downgrade, but you would get a notice there's an update available, even on a rooted phone. Since root only removes the barriers that're usually there to keep the less knowledgeable from hurting their phones, you'd still get any update notices a non-rooted phone would usually get. There is an app called NoBloat Free, and with it there are two files you'd be able to block that'd keep your phone from updating when you don't want it to. I'm not sure if the app is still in the Play Store or not, but I did use it on my Note 4, and it worked pretty well.
On a side note, I've had Opera open on my phone for a while now, and so far it hasn't gone back to the home screen yet. As for the phone itself, Moto phones are pretty good phones, my Z2 Force is my fourth phone from Moto (the other three being the RAZOR smartphone, Bionic, and the original RAZOR, which I sometimes miss). For all we know, our issue could be caused by a software glitch, hence my desire to root and test a different ROM.
Do you know how to downgrade to 8.0? I'll try it, it's a good phone and I didn't pay so much por this, that's why I'm not that angry. I won't root the phone since the games I play would kick me from the game. So just for make me sure I understand, do you reestablished the phone with a computer or from the same phone?
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My concern is whether the root method I found is legit or not. The only reason why I want to attempt it is because the description mentions the specific model of my phone. All variants of the Z2 Force start with XT789-, but it's the number after the '-' you have to look for, and for Verizon users is '01'. Rooting the phone will let me install a different version of Android that should help me narrow down the cause of the glitch. Since your phone is doing the same thing mine is, it's more-than-likely not due to an app, so it has to be either the OS or a hardware thing.
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My man, I found something, I think it's a Verizon app's problem, there is a post in Reddit with more people having this problem, one of them leading to the conclusion that two apps of Verizon update recently. I don't know if that work. Btw I leave the link to that post. https://www.reddit.com/r/Moto_Z/com..._source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body
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My man, I found something, I think it's a Verizon app's problem, there is a post in Reddit with more people having this problem, one of them leading to the conclusion that two apps of Verizon update recently. I don't know if that work. Btw I leave the link to that post. https://www.reddit.com/r/Moto_Z/com..._source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body
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I think I may have finally given my phone the smack in the pants it needed to start behaving itself again. I followed the link you provided, and one of the comments suggested installing any updates for a couple Verizon apps and disabling them. Not sure if this would work on a non-Verizon phone or not, but I've had the XBox app open on my phone for over 20 minutes now, and so far it hasn't minimized yet. To be accurate, I even closed & reopened the app. The apps mentioned were Verizon App Manager & My Verizon Services. I was able to disable the first app, but not the second, and rebooted my phone after doing so.
If your phone isn't from Verizon, there may be a similar pair of apps you could try disabling, though I'd probably look it up first to be on the safe side.
Update: It's been almost two hours now and the app still hasn't closed. Now, to get the screen protector residue off my phone.