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If you get great battery life, please share your tips here!

I'm currently on the CM7 ROM, I have juice defender and done all the minor tweaks as far as disabling wireless network location, turn off the wifi and GPS, and an app killer. I still only manage at max 9 hours before my phone tells me to recharge.
If your getting great battery life, help me and others by sharing your tips here.
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Best tip is to stay on wifi as much as possible. I got 3 days on wifi and about 4 hours use.
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I turn data off when im not using the internet and when I'm just listening to musc I just put my phone in airplane mode

Yeah, I need some help too. I get about a day and a half with no use at all, and about 10 hours with minimal use. 4 hours with real world usage... I can't deal with this. Could it be the battery? It performs like a 1 year old, used, refurb battery came with a stock phone!
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Have you configured the battery since flashing the rom?
I get decent enough battery life, with light usage I can go about 36 hours w/o a charge but on my heavy usage days I usually have to use the car charger a few times a day.

kennyglass123 said:
Best tip is to stay on wifi as much as possible. I got 3 days on wifi and about 4 hours use.
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masaidjet said:
I turn data off when im not using the internet and when I'm just listening to musc I just put my phone in airplane mode
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liquiddetox said:
Have you configured the battery since flashing the rom?
I get decent enough battery life, with light usage I can go about 36 hours w/o a charge but on my heavy usage days I usually have to use the car charger a few times a day.
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all of these... biggest one is to turn off data when the phone is in your pocket. use wifi when u can, avoid using 4g unless plugged in, configure the battery in recovery (i've actually notice that this helps less than anything else for me), and finally: get an extended battery. it's worth the extra hours u can squeeze out of it. don't expect more than 4-5 hours screen on time with any rom/kernel/modem combo with a stock battery.

liquiddetox said:
Have you configured the battery since flashing the rom?
I get decent enough battery life, with light usage I can go about 36 hours w/o a charge but on my heavy usage days I usually have to use the car charger a few times a day.
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Yeah I also did that wipe battery stats at recovery.
I just thought maybe my expectations were too high, although it seems as if my battery drains drop pretty fast.
I would say about -10% battery drop every hour, just checking the time and send/receive text messages. Occasionally I surf the Web on the phone when on break at work. Other than that the phone is in my pocket, and after my 9 hour workday my phone demands the charger.
This is with the stock battery, so I guess this is normal unless I'm using the extended battery?
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u could also run a kernel that allows for over (under) clocking/undervolting. that helps some, too

get the duricell portable battery extender, add milliamps to your arsinal in one way or another with extended batterys or whatever, if you call sprint and complain loudly and dickly they will rebate you the cost that u spend on a new battery or batt extender whatever... that being said all the above options work great, u can also use night mode on chainfire 3d to save battery, or perhaps half your pixel rate, or perhapes turn off some colors (havent seen an app to do this yet) and reset your battery memory in cwm, kill ur batt, charg while off, then cycle again like that. (theres an app for that) if your not rooted, root your phone. if you dont want to root your phone, cycle ur battery the old fasion way or pop it into a rooted phone and do it.

I used to get really poor battery life (due to my phone not sleeping as evidenced by Spare Parts app). I rooted, used Titanium Backup to freeze various apps, and got an Zboost antenna booster for the office and called Sprint who sent me an Airave for the house. I wiped battery stats and cleared my Dalvic cache and the thing the finally got me right was finding out the Amazon MP3 app was still logged in though not running. Once I made sure I was logged out of that and Lattitude (Google Map feature) and Facebook, I haven't had any problem with a sleeping phone. Stock Froyo, standard battery, but rooted. When they say a bad app keeps your phone from sleeping I think they mean an app that requires log in...although this does not seem to be a problem if you stay logged in from a browser, only from an app!

Breezy357 said:
I'm currently on the CM7 ROM, I have juice defender and done all the minor tweaks as far as disabling wireless network location, turn off the wifi and GPS, and an app killer. I still only manage at max 9 hours before my phone tells me to recharge.
If your getting great battery life, help me and others by sharing your tips here.
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You may be shooting yourself in the foot with some of those things. App killers aren't that useful on Gingerbread since they keep killing apps that just reload on their own, and every time the reload it uses power. Just because an app is loaded doesn't mean it is running. Try letting the system take care of it. Juice Defender may help a little but it keeps shutting down data and starting it up, which means you don't get as much usefulness out of the phone and may waste power in some circumstances.
See what you have set to sync. Turn off any autosyncs you don't need, like weather screens, facebook, etc. If at all possible set them to only sync when you open the program.
I use the exchange option for gmail using the stock samsung app, which gives me push email but doesn't have to keep polling the server. I don't know if that makes a difference compared to imap, but it works well for me. don't think you have that option in CM7.
Wifi is a much more efficient way transfer data than 3G, use it whenever you can, and set it to never sleep. Otherwise the 3G radio keeps starting up again and wasting battery.
You can freeze the DRM stuff if you don't use it. I don't know if it really makes a difference but everyone thinks it does, so I do it.
Having a black wallpaper helps a little because on a AMOLED screen a black pixel uses no power.
The biggest battery killer is being in a bad signal area. If you always have 0 or 1 bars then your phone is going to always be draining the battery trying to find a good cell. In that case Roam Control may help you.
That's about all I do, and with the latest Stock gingerbread EH17 and EI22 I'm sitting with about 40 to 50% left after 12 hours, that's with light to moderate use.

I've been through the ringer with this. I'm pretty comfortable now, routinely managing to have 33% of battery left after 12hrs w/3g always on, sync always on, intermittent music listening, 2.5-3hrs of gaming and general "screen on" time (auto brightness), 1.1 GHz OC, no undervolting, and GPS always on. Here's what I'd suggest:
Flash a ROM w/ NO CIQ (thanks k0nane!) - In addition to being a leech on your privacy it's a leech on your battery. It's old news to long-time Epic owners at this point, but ditching CIQ improves battery life and overall responsiveness of the Epic. A popular stable Froyo ROM for this is SFR 1.2.
Minimize always-running services - Long press your homescreen, select "shortcuts," select "settings," and select "running services." Tap this to see what's running ongoing services (not apps) your phone is running. All of these are drawing current to stay in RAM. Things like Juice Defender, Tasker, and others show up here and draw power in doing so. JD and Tasker especially can drain a lot because they perform constant tasks as well. Uninstall them and let your phone manage itself.
The same goes for task managers and app-stoppers - Froyo and above does this fine on it's own
Freeze/Uninstall system services you don't use - This includes things like Sprint voicemail, the "Email" app, and the "SprintAndroidExtension.apk," and SNS services. You'll most likely find these on the "Running Services Page" as well. You can Titanium Backup to uninstall them, but I recommend the SDX Stock App Remover as that can restore them (TB can't reliably). TB can freeze these as well, which accomplishes basically the same thing. SNS is connected to Facebook, so if you use that a lot you might want to keep it. DRM services can also be removed, but may cause problems reading the SD card. I stay away from it.
Use Spare Parts to monitor wakelock and CPU usage - If you notice something giving you persistent trouble, shut it down. This is time-consuming, but you'll get a good feel for what apps are out there to accomplish similar tasks and which one best suits your needs.
Uninstall apps you don't use - Next time you wipe and flash a new ROM, reinstall or restore backed up apps as you need to use them and not all at once. You may find you don't need quite a few of them, allowing you to keep more space open on your phone and requiring less current to maintain them
Don't charge the battery overnight - most phones can reach capacity in 2-4 hours depending on charge level. Beyond that, holding at or around fully charged will degrade the battery by denying it the ability to release the stored energy. I charge mine in the evening a few hours before bed and top it off in the morning before leaving for work.
Get an 1800mAh battery sold for the Epic Touch - this is what moved me form "getting by" to "definitely comfortable." For around $25 (incl shipping) on ebay, I've gotten a new lease on my Epic's life. It may seem like cheating to bring in a new battery, but it makes a lot of difference WITHOUT adding more bulge to your phone (makes it a tad heavier though).
Hope this helps. Remember, of course, that what works for one phone won't necessarily work for another. Despite being the same model, minor imperfections in silicone can create individual temperaments for each phone.

I as always trying to make my battery last by stopping this and uninstalling that. Then I thought; why did I buy this phone with all of these capabilities to turn them all off

So, something like the "Hyperion Sprint Samsung Epic Touch 4G 2 x Battery + Charger" (too "young" to post a direct link)
Would fit in/work with the Epic 4G (without needing a new cover)? Even though its for the Touch?
Lol, I've been doing many of the suggestions across the board, and have gotten much better results. But I'm still not "comfortable" with my battery strength, especially when I'm unable to charge my phone all day...

Looking into your running services is a big one. week ago my battery life greatly decreased. I kept seeing market update pending and it wouldnt go away. Never update never go away. I manually updated the market and the battery is back to wonderful. It drops 2-3% at night off charger. Thats about 8 hours.
A sticky with all the main running services and which ones you can stop would be wonderful. I have sns services running. I think i can stop it but not positive. I also have sanservice running supposedly some type of samsung update. Its not doing anything but its been running for 2 days. No negative effect on battery(that i notice) but its running. Also make sure you turn location off. Ive also noticed that even when you back out of google maps its still in running services. A restart fixes that but thats annoying.

themow said:
Looking into your running services is a big one. week ago my battery life greatly decreased. I kept seeing market update pending and it wouldnt go away. Never update never go away. I manually updated the market and the battery is back to wonderful. It drops 2-3% at night off charger. Thats about 8 hours.
A sticky with all the main running services and which ones you can stop would be wonderful. I have sns services running. I think i can stop it but not positive. I also have sanservice running supposedly some type of samsung update. Its not doing anything but its been running for 2 days. No negative effect on battery(that i notice) but its running. Also make sure you turn location off. Ive also noticed that even when you back out of google maps its still in running services. A restart fixes that but thats annoying.
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SNSservice is a Facebook and Feeds and Updates Widget service. ALWAYS stop it. It does not matter to Facebook, even if you use it, but if you remove the Feeds and Updates Widget on one of your screens, that service continues to search for it and will kill your battery in a matter of hours (it starts a "restarting" loop). Either leave the widget on or kill this service after every reboot or if you are rooted, freeze it along with DRM service.
My other battery tips are to log out or sign out of every app such as Lattitude, Facebook, Amazon MP3 (it's ok to use them, but don't just back/exit out, actually sign out of them so you have to log back in next time). Apparently, staying signed in causes your phone to not sleep and you can't find what is causing it (i.e. you can't see it "running" anywhere...people call it a misbehaving app, and you would have to delete apps one at a time to find it by trial and error).

My friend got a Gnex but..

Hey guys so my friend join my line on verizon on a family plan and he really wanted the nexus he likes it i can tell it , however he asked me today why with minimal usage 11% of battery dies within 2 hours
he is on stock 4.0.2 what can i suggest him to have a better battery life? of course i rooted mine but its his choice and he does not want to.
what i suggested
1) lower brightness when not really using the phone
2) get easy batter saver
3) turn off gps when not needed
4) turn off sync when not needed
5) switch TO CDMA from LTE when "LTE" not needed
what else?

Freeze maps when not using. And make sure you clear apps runing in the background when your not using them. Push the multi task softkey and swipe whatever is open to the side

patt2k said:
Hey guys so my friend join my line on verizon on a family plan and he really wanted the nexus he likes it i can tell it , however he asked me today why with minimal usage 11% of battery dies within 2 hours
he is on stock 4.0.2 what can i suggest him to have a better battery life? of course i rooted mine but its his choice and he does not want to.
what i suggested
1) lower brightness when not really using the phone
2) get easy batter saver
3) turn off gps when not needed
4) turn off sync when not needed
5) switch TO CDMA from LTE when "LTE" not needed
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wait... as in he loses only 11% of battery in 2 hours? That's really solid battery life for an LTE version...
All stock the most you should probably expect is 3 hours screen on time over the entire battery usage.

how to freeze maps?

silver03wrx said:
Freeze maps when not using. And make sure you clear apps runing in the background when your not using them. Push the multi task softkey and swipe whatever is open to the side
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When you swipe the apps left/right from the multitask, does it actually close them? I haven't checked myself, but heard it doesn't? Anyone care to see?
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It only closes activities, not their services.

RogerPodacter said:
It only closes activities, not their services.
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this. it closes the foreground task but the background service continues to run.

martonikaj said:
wait... as in he loses only 11% of battery in 2 hours? That's really solid battery life for an LTE version...
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Yeah it is. Only LTE phones that I can think of, that have a great battery life,
are Verizon's Droid razer maxxx and Att's note (<- from what I've been told).
Overall, your suggestions are on point Pat.

silver03wrx said:
Freeze maps when not using. And make sure you clear apps runing in the background when your not using them. Push the multi task softkey and swipe whatever is open to the side
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Clarify process 'freeze' please.

HarshReality said:
Clarify process 'freeze' please.
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you can disable it when you're stock. go into the app info (drag Maps from app drawer to the "info" icon or go from settings) and uninstall updates then disable it.
Or if you're rooted you can use Titanium Backup to "freeze" applications. It just disables them and you can bring them back later.
Honestly, there's really no need to do this if you use Maps at all. Its a hassle and really doesn't save any battery life unless you have a buggy ROM that keeps it running. Just make sure that you're signed out of latitude etc. and Maps won't be draining battery.
There are so many more things you can do to help battery life than worry about Maps.
OP I'd like if you could clarify what you mean in your first post. If he really only drained 11% in 2 hours that's really good for this device. Most LTE users with normal usage and settings can get about 12-15 hours uptime with 3 hours screen on.
The things you noted in your first post are all good ways to save battery but remember its a trade off! You're going to remove everything that makes your smartphone useful to try and lengthen your battery. I leave auto-sync and background data on, GPS on (it actually only turns on when you use it, btw), and just let it be. I do better on battery life when I stop trying to micromanage my phone.
Apps like Juice Defender etc. really can help in specific situations, but for most people it will hurt or have no effect on battery life, but will severely inconvenience you turning on/off data all the time and changing settings.

well he gave me an estimate (basically he said around 2 hours 11%) hes coming from iPhone 4 so there is huge battery performance 3g vs 4g
anyways he will have to stick with it
on another hand my rooted gnex does pretty good about 14 hours with franco kernel
i was just wondering which kernel governor is the best?
mine is set as FRANCO TURTLE and i have no idea what is the difference between other ones

Root it and flash 4.04 it will give you battery life for a day with moderately heavy usage.

Buy the extended battery.

[q] at my breaking point with battery drain

I know this horse has been beat to death, I'm just hoping I can get maybe one bit of info that will help me resolve this issue before I just swap out to another phone. I really don't want to, but I'm just so sick of being chained to a charging cord all day. My phone should be able to hold a charge for at least 1 day, I don't even use it that much!
So with my little tirade out of the way, let me give you the facts I've got a Samsung Galaxy S II/SPH-D710, and the battery just drains down so fast, and the phone's barely 6 months old. I've downloaded numerous process monitoring apps, designed to see what's going on, and they all point at WiFi being the culprit. The phone never hits deep sleep because the wireless is keeping it awake. Sure enough if I turn WiFi off and I go 3G/4G all day my battery is fine. Problem is I can't get to that next level and find out what program or process is causing the WiFi to be on all the time. Even more frustrating, every time there's an upgrade like FI27 or FL24 which I'm on now, the battery works fine for a day or two. Then something kicks in and destroys the battery. My thought is it's got to be an app, I just don't know which one.
So before I kick this piece of **** out the window, I was hoping someone could please help me figure out what app/process is the cause of my battery drain.

Get DS Battery Saver. It will force all of your stuff off when you turn off the screen so that it will go into deep sleep.
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Get a new battery?

Apps, batteries, ics vodoo it's a host of things that can solve your battery drain issue. Being that your phone is 6 months old I have to rule out the battery. The fact that your on ics is going to be main culprit, stock ics was not the best at managing battery use. There's something revving the crap out of your Wi-Fi, while Wi-Fi is on even while your screen is off there are processes going on in the background that are using Wi-Fi to send receive, update, sync, you name it and all you need to do is pinpoint these processes.
Some apps in the play store can help, but some of these apps can consume battery also, so it's best to delete it after troubleshooting.
If your phone is working properly and your not a social media junkie while it sleeps it should not be using any battery at all, just enough to keep your processor awake.
I keep notifications are sync off on my phone, while I'm out and about I'll check email or do a quick sync if I want to check for some incoming whatever. Most of the time I want info on my terms, not every minute with chimes beeps or lights flashing.
If you use google maps disable background location reporting, location services just use "location and search " disable Wi-Fi and GPS usage for location services.
This is a start, but I recommend Jb ga10 stock/rooted to give your phone a stable os.
I run stock/rooted Jb de-bloated with minimal apps, no games (all the games I like are on my Galaxy Tab 10.1) I use my phone for calls........... navigation and media player while driving. I get 16 to 20 hrs on a charge.
Pp. :thumbup::beer:
Transmitted from another galaxy with a Jellybean infused P-5113 full of Unicorn porn.

I get about 20 hours on the Vanilla RootBox JB ROM. YMMV. I also had terrible battery life on the stock ROM and every other one I tried. This is the first ROM that's bested 10 hours. Again, YMMV.

what rom are you on? tw? cm?

Have you used Better Battery Stats? Or the JB release candidate GB08?

Not to raise the dead, I've just been busy, but this is still an issue for me. I upgraded to JB GB27, and I love the GUI, it’s such a step up from ICS. But I’m still getting **** for battery life. Yes if I use DS Battery Saver it works and I get good battery life. However all those programs cause flaky restart issues. The phone will just restart for no reason. More importantly it’s not getting at the root of the problem.
IRL I’m a computer tech and I can’t just let this go, as previously stated I’m tired of being shackled to the phone charger. I’ve swapped in a new battery, it’s not the battery. I even turned on the setting “Keep WiFi On > Only when plugged in”. That did improve the battery a little, but I still can’t make it through the day without being charged. I’m on the phone maybe combined 30min of phone calls, 30 min checking email, and an hour or so of miscellaneous watching video etc. I know heavy users that are on their phones all day, or let their kids watch Disney movies all night. I’m not that guy, I’ve had numerous cell phones and never have I had one that couldn’t hold a charge all day.
I will be diligent in monitoring this thread, please give me your troubleshooting tips and I’ll report back with the results.

Downlpaf betterbatterystats. And find the wakelocks.
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Can do, will let you know at the end of the day.
EDIT: Actually I read multiple issues with SG2 and BetterBatteryStats. However your wakelock comment made me stumble onto the app Wakelock Detector. Again I'll run it and report back. Thanks for the point in the right direction.

Ive noticed no better or worse battery between being rooted/custom rom and stock not rooted. However my phone gets about 16 hours on average. My friend has an epic as well and gets only 10 hours. I feel as though it depends on the user and apps. Facebook is a silent killer. As is any app that uses backround. Best setup ive had so far is billgeryans Quattro Rom with ds and greenify. I pulled a whopping 25 hour minimal use before charge and 13 hour heavy use day.....
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Facebook is a silent killer. As is any app that uses backround.
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So how do you stop it? Do you just have to close out of every app before you set your phone down?

nim6us said:
So how do you stop it? Do you just have to close out of every app before you set your phone down?
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Thats what I do. This was a heavy use day on stock not rooted gb27
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nim6us said:
So how do you stop it? Do you just have to close out of every app before you set your phone down?
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exiting apps don't stop them. you can freeze and unfreeze them.

calisro said:
exiting apps don't stop them. you can freeze and unfreeze them.
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How do you freeze them?

nim6us said:
How do you freeze them?
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With titanium backup. You can also install greenify. It puts your apps in hibernation when your screen is off. So basically it's like freezing and unfreezing. Tbh I think it's better using greenify.
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How do you freeze them?
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titanium can and you can create a widget to do it easily per app.
or
app-quarantine in playstore
or what I do:
shell commands usind connectbot widgets with a command like this:
pm disable-user com.facebook.katana
pm enable com.facebook.katana
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so my 2 cents:
1) get a second battery and charger.
2) betterbatterystats to identify "bad" apps and either get rid of them or deal with them.
3) "autostarts" app to stop crap from auto starting on boot that you don't need running as a service.
4) dim screen! huge huge savings. keep it dim enough to use the phone.

Battery issues well I have a solution that won't solve but greatly helps. It's called greenify. It puts all running apps in hibernate mode. It's not like a task killer that just screws things up. U can choose what u want to hibernate and all that jazzy stuff. It's worth a shot. All in all if you want a bada$$ battery efficient rom go with wcx stock rooted rom. It's simply amazing. Hope I was at help
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Check out greenify if you're rooted. It removes all currently unused apps and processes from memory, essentially putting them into deep sleep. That combined with ds battery saver and watching your wake locks will drastically improve battery life:beer:
Slithering from the nether regions of a twisted mind and tarnished soul

SASQUATCH said:
With titanium backup. You can also install greenify. It puts your apps in hibernation when your screen is off. So basically it's like freezing and unfreezing. Tbh I think it's better using greenify.
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Okay so does Greenify do this freeze automatically, the interface is a little clumsy. I appreciate all the help guys.

[Discussion] Official JB 4.1.2 Stock

K....I apologize if I missed it, but didn't see a stock jb thread....aside from the one from months ago that has a billion posts. I think a new one is not unreasonable.
Anyway... just curious about what others think.
After debloating it heavily....all T-Mobile and Samsung junk gone and a lot more....and stopping apps from auto starting with autostarts...I'm pretty happy!
GPS took about a minute to lock first time ...but now its quick. And accurate.
It is super smooth after a day of settling.
Going on 14 hours on battery with light to moderate use and at 59 percent left. Seems on par with most stuff I've ran.
I do miss some of the customization ...which will lead me to start flashing soon I'm sure. LOL
But overall....I'm impressed.
Anyone wanna share, ask questions or debate?
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I had it working once on my T989D, it was heavily bloated, still seemed faster than usual leaked builds. Doesn't really matter now though because I can't flash anything based off this official tmob update because every ROM I've tried with it either bootloops or FC`s constantly. A real shame, I looked forward to this for so long, I assume it doesn't work because I have the koodo t989. Waiting on the Telus version to be released.
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I have a T989D also and I've been able to get it to run perfectly fine for over 24 hours.
I have version 1 of Infamous S2 and I had to flash it, wipe cache and dalvik, reboot let settle for ten mins then flash the newest radio or it would keep dropping my koodo radio.
I think the key is wiping cache and dalvik after you flash it, I did also do a full internal wipe and installed from an sd card though.

I didn't see a huge increase in speed. Although it does feel a little smoother.
The increase in battery life has been huge for me though. On ICS I had a terrible average of about 6-8 hours depending on light to moderate use. On Jelly Bean I'm averaging 10-11 hours on more than moderate use.

Do you have a list of what you removed?

I also can't flash any recoveries except the old cwm so that's probably part of my problem.
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I didn't see a huge increase in speed. Although it does feel a little smoother.
The increase in battery life has been huge for me though. On ICS I had a terrible average of about 6-8 hours depending on light to moderate use. On Jelly Bean I'm averaging 10-11 hours on more than moderate use.
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That's pretty decent battery life and what I used to get when on the stock 4.0.4, but my battery life with this one has been worse. It drops below 50% after 4 hours off the charger with the same amount of use as before. I noticed in a developer thread a screenshot of someone getting great battery life as well. Did you root and debloat?
It seems like the OP was able to do that with some success. I really like the performance otherwise, much better improvement over 4.0.4. OP, are you rooted? Also, I searched the Play Store for autostarts and saw a few different options...would you mind sharing which developer's autostarts app you're using? I saw one that's paid and a couple that were free. Thanks!
EDIT: The other thing that's frustrating is when a new text comes through, it just says "New Message Arrived." I used to be able to change that in 4.0.4 to where the text would display in the notification area, but I can't find that on this version. Wondering if TouchWiz did away with it or it's because of my corporate password policy.

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That's pretty decent battery life and what I used to get when on the stock 4.0.4, but my battery life with this one has been worse. It drops below 50% after 4 hours off the charger with the same amount of use as before. I noticed in a developer thread a screenshot of someone getting great battery life as well. Did you root and debloat?
It seems like the OP was able to do that with some success. I really like the performance otherwise, much better improvement over 4.0.4. OP, are you rooted? Also, I searched the Play Store for autostarts and saw a few different options...would you mind sharing which developer's autostarts app you're using? I saw one that's paid and a couple that were free. Thanks!
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The 10-11 hours is even more amazing to me because I've been using my phone way more than usual (Simpsons Tapped Out is addicting)
I did do a full recharge/drain a couple times after upgrading, so maybe that may help you.
These are my steps in case you want to give it a try.
(On a full charge 100%)
I used odin to flash back to ICS stock unrooted
I then used kies to upgrade to JB
After the upgrade, I went into recovery and did a wipe/factory reset for good measure.
Unplugged phone and started setup (Disabled some tmobile bloat)
Used the phone until it ran out of charge.
Charged the phone completely .
Unplugged and drained it completely again.

K....not gonna quote a bunch of stuff....but in response to a few things.
This was my experience, but trying to use the tlle4 Telus radio left me frozen at bootup mostly....I got in a couple times, but it wouldn't let me save my apn settings and I had no signal. Flashed the new jb radio and manually had to enter apn settings, which saved this time...and I was good. Tlle4 has better signal where I live, but the new one works OK.
What did I freeze? Well, mostly anything with T-Mobile or Samsung in its name. Now everything is working fine, so soon I will uninstall and delete them completely.
I use the app specifically called Autostarts. It is a paid app....but gold to me. I stop any app I am familiar with and don't want starting by itself at startup or other events. Especially maps!! Otherwise it seems to run all the time. I disable it in autostarts anywhere I find it. Then it only runs when I start it.
Think I got most things that were directed to me covered.
I also use advanced task killer free. I do not ever autokill apps. I use it as an easy way to kill things after I run them that don't close properly by themselves. Like maps and Canada's the weather network app.
Last night when I plugged in my charger I was at 24 hours and 3 hours screen time with 22 percent remaining. So stock seems no better or worse than most other jb roms I've used.
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I had it working once on my T989D, it was heavily bloated, still seemed faster than usual leaked builds. Doesn't really matter now though because I can't flash anything based off this official tmob update because every ROM I've tried with it either bootloops or FC`s constantly. A real shame, I looked forward to this for so long, I assume it doesn't work because I have the koodo t989. Waiting on the Telus version to be released.
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I'm Telus. Works good! Try flashing the new radio. Then rom. Make sure to wipe cache and davlik after you flash...then reboot.
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That's pretty decent battery life and what I used to get when on the stock 4.0.4, but my battery life with this one has been worse. It drops below 50% after 4 hours off the charger with the same amount of use as before. I noticed in a developer thread a screenshot of someone getting great battery life as well. Did you root and debloat?
It seems like the OP was able to do that with some success. I really like the performance otherwise, much better improvement over 4.0.4. OP, are you rooted? Also, I searched the Play Store for autostarts and saw a few different options...would you mind sharing which developer's autostarts app you're using? I saw one that's paid and a couple that were free. Thanks!
EDIT: The other thing that's frustrating is when a new text comes through, it just says "New Message Arrived." I used to be able to change that in 4.0.4 to where the text would display in the notification area, but I can't find that on this version. Wondering if TouchWiz did away with it or it's because of my corporate password policy.
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Sorry...just saw that. Yes, I'm definitely rooted!
Notification wise....I disable stock messaging notification cause I use handcent.
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k-dogg said:
That's pretty decent battery life and what I used to get when on the stock 4.0.4, but my battery life with this one has been worse. It drops below 50% after 4 hours off the charger with the same amount of use as before. I noticed in a developer thread a screenshot of someone getting great battery life as well. Did you root and debloat?
It seems like the OP was able to do that with some success. I really like the performance otherwise, much better improvement over 4.0.4. OP, are you rooted? Also, I searched the Play Store for autostarts and saw a few different options...would you mind sharing which developer's autostarts app you're using? I saw one that's paid and a couple that were free. Thanks!
EDIT: The other thing that's frustrating is when a new text comes through, it just says "New Message Arrived." I used to be able to change that in 4.0.4 to where the text would display in the notification area, but I can't find that on this version. Wondering if TouchWiz did away with it or it's because of my corporate password policy.
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The new message thing was bothering me too. After seeing your post I looked more closely at the settings. Open Messaging and then open the settings. Under notification settings check preview message. Now the text will display in the notification area like before.

The JB this phone got is crap. Doesn't the same phone for att Skyrocket get ripple lock screen and multi window? Also we can NOT download the voice files for offline voice recognition.
The Skyrocket port of JB for this phone can do all of that.

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The JB this phone got is crap. Doesn't the same phone for att Skyrocket get ripple lock screen and multi window? Also we can NOT download the voice files for offline voice recognition.
The Skyrocket port of JB for this phone can do all of that.
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I'm using the Embryo rom now. I did try installing the new stock JB rom but it just can't compared to some of the custom roms. I haven't try the roms by ptmr3, Rushing, and Jamison. I'll probably wait for a few more updates before trying the tmobile JB roms. I missing using Wifi-calling sometimes but the Embryo is just a very good rom.

5.1.1 update - your experience with the new software ?

I found it very hard to find information from people who actually have the update in other threads because it is mixed with information on how to actually obtain and install the update.
So what are your impressions of tge 5.1.1 update ? Please only post if you have the update installed and running for at least few hours.
My impressions:
- Battery life is worse, like 30% worse with Wi-Fi detection on, even if mostly using Bluetooth.
- Still can't edit the canned response list Emoji drawing is a bad joke.
- I can't dismiss notifications with flick gestures (only hide them)
- Very smooth and responsive UI overall
- No annoying "Ok Google" text on watch face until you say "ok Google" 5 times

Battery life for me for 5 times better.... One thing, this enables 'always on' apps... I would check some of your apps and see what battery consumption is. I've been in my watch since about 10am and I have 53% left right now. Way better than anything I have ever gotten. This is with wifi on.

It's pretty fantastic for me. I have no complaints. The processor is old, but I'm very impressed with how optimized they've made it. The lag just doesn't interrupt my work flow, unlike with the Apple Watch at least. There's no major delay. Will likely be buying V2 or V3 depending on how I feel the life cycle for these devices will be.

Updated yesterday. I feel like the battery lasts less, but you have to give it 2-3 days to settle down. Liking the new features, but I don't think I'm gonna use Wi-Fi too much since it drains battery.

For now, I'm keeping WiFi, gestures, and ambient mode off. This way within a week I'll have a true comparison of battery life. Then I'm going to test each function and how it effects battery. I'll let everyone know how it goes.

Have the update one day now,
Good points:
-Smootness
-less buggy
-wifi when out of range
-wrist flick(great idea)
-Google maps maps
Bad points:
-Wrist flick is hard to perform correct (think it is a learning curve)
-When wifi is active on whatch and is connected but phone isn't connected to internet it still says it is connected.
-Laggier in first minutes after boot
-Lock screen sometimes activates when on wrist.
Overall i'am happy. Batterylife is to early to judge

I got the update yesterday after resetting my device. The first thing that I have noticed is that I can no longer dismiss notifications that only take up the bottom part of the screen. I have to pull the notification up and can then dismiss it. If this is what the developers intended, then that it is a major step backwards.
Also where do I setup which apps should stay "always on"?
Battery life after the update is disasterous, about 6% per hour but I need to give it a few days to sort itself out.
The dismissing of notifications is very much hit and miss and is impracticable.
At the moment I am not impressed with the update. Hopefully things will sort themselves out over the next few days.

For me, the update has been surprisingly good.
Good:
- Battery life (which I must admit, was my primary concern) is as good as it was prior to the update, even with the watch connected to WiFi.
- I love the flicking gestures, they work exactly as I imagined they would, although they're not as smart as they should (you can swipe available cards up and down, but when a card has multiple sub-cards, you can't scroll between them).
- Performance is great, specially considering it's a device with 512MB RAM, UI is still responsive enough and with very little lag.
- I love the new contact screen, it saves me a lot of time for quick calls when I can't remember the contact name (I normally use Google Now to call someone).
Bad:
- For the life of me, I haven't figured out how to enable always-on apps. It's one of the features I've been waiting for so eagerly, specially for Google Keep's checked notes (which I use A LOT).
- The WiFi connection is USELESS if you leave your phone home and find a protected WiFi network, because you NEED the phone to input the password. It kinda defeats the whole purpose.

One thing I noticed after the update is all of my hangouts threads became unmerged. Now each person has SMS/Hangouts as seperate threads. My one buddy experienced the same issue when his watch updated. Not sure why the software update would cause that, but it's upsetting.

Overall, I'm really liking the update. The only thing that's really bugging me is that you can't seem to dismiss notifications unless they're open. I'm used to being able to dismiss them immediately if I can get all the information I need from their title. Now, I actually have to swipe up first to open them, and only then can I dismiss them. It's not so bad that I can't live with it, but it is annoying.

The update has exceeded my expectations so far. I have only had it installed for about 12 hours. Battery life seems better. Worst case I don't think it has gotten any worse which was a huge concern because it hasn't been so wonderful. It seems to give more feedback and explanations so I'm not guessing as much. For example when I added a playlist it informed me that the battery needed more charge to download to the watch. Prior to the update I would have been scratching my head all day and then it would magically download when I charged up at night.
I really hope the WiFi works as advertised. I can think of many ways it could be useful to me. It seems like there are lots of times when I want notifications in case of an emergency because I'm a single dad but I also don't want to carry the phone with me.

My biggest annoyance with update is that now I have to open cards before they can be swiped away. Most times I can tell what a card is telling me and used to swipe them away without opening them.

Seems more responsive.
As others have said, removal of swiping / dismissing the previews was not a good call.
Not entirely sure, but looks like I won't be able to connect to my work WiFi which uses certificate based EAP-TLS authentication ? Will see when I'm back in the office next week.
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Do the other watches have the same issue (yeah, I'm calling it an issue instead of a feature) with the notification swiping? Or maybe this is something Motorola did thinking they were compensating somehow for the flat tire? Regardless, I hope there's an update to fix it, it just annoys the piss out of me every time.

My first day battery report.
Off charger at 9am, end of the day (11pm) 67%. This is with WiFi and ambient mode off so I can have a direct comparison to prior then update. But to me that is a huge improvement.

Has anybody figured out how to enable the App Always On feature?

I've updated my watch yesterday and wanted to let my watch get to 0% to calibrate the battery because of the new update. so I didn't put my watch off at night, and the next morging (today) my watch was 10% and the screen was totally black and it wasn't responding to the side button so I tried to hold it for 30 seconds to let it restart I saw the normal bootupscren but as soon it was staring the app it became black again. I now have let it charge to 100% and it it's responding perfectly again. Does anyone know what was wrong?
Thanks for your time!

user of android said:
I've updated my watch yesterday and wanted to let my watch get to 0% to calibrate the battery because of the new update. so I didn't put my watch off at night, and the next morging (today) my watch was 10% and the screen was totally black and it wasn't responding to the side button so I tried to hold it for 30 seconds to let it restart I saw the normal bootupscren but as soon it was staring the app it became black again. I now have let it charge to 100% and it it's responding perfectly again. Does anyone know what was wrong?
Thanks for your time!
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I noticed the same behavior when mine was at 2%. It did not respond to screen touches and only switched on for about half a second after clicking the side button several (5 or more) times. It still took about 30 minutes for the watch to finally shut down. Maybe this is because of a very aggressive battery saving mode?
I must add that I did reset the watch after the 5.1.1 update was fully installed and wanted the battery to drain completely for the same reason you did: to recalibrate it.
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Mister-B said:
Has anybody figured out how to enable the App Always On feature?
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I'm thinking it may only be an AMOLED feature.

Mine had the same issue at 10%. I wonder if this is related to the performance issue Motorola was talking about.
I don't know if I am happy or sad that this is widespread. Hopefully they patch this up.