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Do's/Dont's setting up new unlocked Nexus? "first unlocked phone"

Ok so my new Nexus is coming tomorrow I sold my AT&T note to get it. This is my first time getting a unlocked phone. Anything I shouldn't do upon setting it up. Or things I should do. I've been reading a so far in here for the last few days. Just wanna make sure everything goes smooth

Put your SIM card in. Put the Battery in.

Root & unlock bootloader right away. That way you don't waste all that time setting up your phone just to have to redo it.
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martonikaj said:
Put your SIM card in. Put the Battery in.
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Seriously, it's that simple.
Actually, if I may add a couple:
~Make sure it's free of defects - I don't want to worry you but it's something you want to address quickly for something not officially available in the U.S.
~Since you're on AT&T, set up your data usage limits.

Ok cool. Just wanted to make sure, illmprob root and such right away as mentioned. So I guess I have to call AT&T and tell them I'm using a "android" data plan correct? Being I used a spare iPhone 4 I had laying around while waiting for my nexus to Come in.

Vcolassi said:
Ok cool. Just wanted to make sure, illmprob root and such right away as mentioned. So I guess I have to call AT&T and tell them I'm using a "android" data plan correct? Being I used a spare iPhone 4 I had laying around while waiting for my nexus to Come in.
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If you're using an iPhone 4 the data plan should work fine (but some ppl are saying you can get a nice CS rep to put you on a "4G" data plan to get better speeds).
Also, you'll need a SIM adapter if you're gonna stick with the iPhone's Micro SIM.

I can prob just go in and ask them to give me a sim for my galaxy note. I got a sim before I believe with just giving them my number.

luftrofl said:
Seriously, it's that simple.
Actually, if I may add a couple:
~Make sure it's free of defects - I don't want to worry you but it's something you want to address quickly for something not officially available in the U.S.
~Since you're on AT&T, set up your data usage limits.
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Yes, I would check for defects first to make sure you don't waste time doing anything else.
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Unlock, but don't root until you know what you want/need root for.

root is the same as the admin account on a windows machine. it does not introduce changes or risks just because it's there. there are a million reasons to do it, though. obvious reasons like safety and choice. it would be unthinkable for a laptop to be delivered without admin account, but here they shrunk the casing to an minimum, it's still a computer, but now it's oooohhhh, oooonlllyyyy if u knowwww whut ure doingggg. come on man, really. root on android is way more easy, transparent and intuitive to use than on a windows pc so what's the big deal.

molesarecoming said:
root is the same as the admin account on a windows machine. it does not introduce changes or risks just because it's there. there are a million reasons to do it, though. obvious reasons like safety and choice. it would be unthinkable for a laptop to be delivered without admin account, but here they shrunk the casing to an minimum, it's still a computer, but now it's oooohhhh, oooonlllyyyy if u knowwww whut ure doingggg. come on man, really. root on android is way more easy, transparent and intuitive to use than on a windows pc so what's the big deal.
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You are, in fact, wrong.
Android becomes a lot more vulnerable if you have SU/root installed. Just as it enables you to have root access on the system, it enables potential malware to have the same level of access and there are exploits in the wild utilizing this.
Android OS is also designed in a way that you don't need root access for almost anything the average user would possibly want to do with the device.

If you ever dig around the *#*#4636#*#* menu don't change or press anything next to SMSC otherwise you'll screw up your SMS's

Zengster6474 said:
If you ever dig around the *#*#4636#*#* menu don't change or press anything next to SMSC otherwise you'll screw up your SMS's
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i did that lol
and i had to use my old old dumb phone (se s500i) to set up smsc again, it is one thing dumb phone is smarter than a smart phone
another way is to translate the smsc number in a website which is troublesome
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Valynor said:
You are, in fact, wrong.
Android becomes a lot more vulnerable if you have SU/root installed. Just as it enables you to have root access on the system, it enables potential malware to have the same level of access and there are exploits in the wild utilizing this.
Android OS is also designed in a way that you don't need root access for almost anything the average user would possibly want to do with the device.
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As you probably already know there Roms like CM9 that protect against this. And more development teams are implementing the same safeguards.
Also rooting gives you the ability of adding apps like Cerberus and Avast to the system folder, making them very hard to remove.
Since he is a member of XDA, and asking about which pitfalls to avoid, you could assume he has ambitions to tinker and customize. So its not a question of if he should root, its a question of when.
But you know what they say when you assume..
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Do: Everything.
Don't: Not do everything.
Simple.
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Valynor said:
You are, in fact, wrong.
Android becomes a lot more vulnerable if you have SU/root installed. Just as it enables you to have root access on the system, it enables potential malware to have the same level of access and there are exploits in the wild utilizing this.
Android OS is also designed in a way that you don't need root access for almost anything the average user would possibly want to do with the device.
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say what? what kind of root did you install on your phone man. root changes nothing, an app can do the same stuff it could before and not an iota more. if it wants to it has to explicitly apply for that right and you have to give your allowance. Android is designed to be open, you either use that possibility or you don't but you don't run around freaking people out that root on Linux is something evil or abnormal which is it not, it's a plain normal admin account and nothing more and Android profits from it in the same way every other os in the whole wide world profits.
ps. that stuff about the "average user" is pure bs. average users do not complain about root on win7 or osx, why would they complain on android where it's even easier to operate. customizations aside, you're living dangerous, one bad crash and your phone is ****ed, a bit of bad luck and it gets stolen and you'll not see it again. both becomes virtually impossible with root since you have real backups and real security suites.

Unlocking the boot loader and rooting an android phone definitely opens it up to exploits, if you don't know that I wouldn't Root
Saying that, only way to run a smooth Nexus is to run Codename Android 1.6.0 with standard launcher and franco kernel. I've tried them all and this is the ONLY way to get nexus running smooth with limited lag.

Let's return to the topic:
You probably should unlock your bootloader immediately BECAUSE bootloader unlock wipes the phone. If you encounter a situation later on that requires an unlocked bootloader, you would loose all your data during the unlock process. I'd advise you to do it immediately before you set up your phone.
Rooting is different. Once your bootloader is unlocked, you can root your phone at any time without loosing anything. If you don't require a root right now, don't bother with it. Should you require it later, rooting is very easy and doesn't affect your data/settings IF (VERY BIG IF) your bootloader is unlocked.

I don't understand the concern about having root. Any app that attempts to gain root access is blocked and a pop up from super user asks if you want to grant access to said app.
Anyway I root but stay stock, because root is about having admin rights to do things, not necessarily flashing roms etc. Example I wanted to make my bar transparent, so u could do that when rooted even though I was on stock rom.
Anyway just pop in your sim is all you have to do. You don't have to change any data plans or have to even tell ATT anything.

Vcolassi said:
Ok so my new Nexus is coming tomorrow I sold my AT&T note to get it. This is my first time getting a unlocked phone. Anything I shouldn't do upon setting it up. Or things I should do. I've been reading a so far in here for the last few days. Just wanna make sure everything goes smooth
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Why did you sell your note? i am planning to buy new phone im confused between note and nexus... hope u can help coz u used them both... my first choice was nexus...

Encrypting the Epic 4g

I'm looking into what it would take to encrypt my phone. Not just put a lock/password on the front but do the whole shebang so that if my phone is lost/stolen and picked up by someone else it will be hopefully more difficult to steal my info/data or etc.
What are my options and what would be recommended by folk here? I'm on the People's ROM - not sure if it changes much but there it is.

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tigerknight said:
I'm looking into what it would take to encrypt my phone. Not just put a lock/password on the front but do the whole shebang so that if my phone is lost/stolen and picked up by someone else it will be hopefully more difficult to steal my info/data or etc.
What are my options and what would be recommended by folk here? I'm on the People's ROM - not sure if it changes much but there it is.
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It think it is OS specific CM9 is the only one that I know of that has the option for our phones. What I do is I do not password my phone but I lock apps with smart lock. i have a app called ICE on my home screen that has my contact info in case of emergency.

[Q] is there a app to make shutting down the device require a password?

I need some help in trying to find an app that requires a pass code or password to allow the device to shutdown and enter airplane mode. Why you may ask well because while my phone is protected against theft via Cerberus someone could easily shut it down or make it go into airplane mode if it required a pass code then a thief wouldn't be able to do so thus letting me track down the device. I know a battery pull could still make it all useless but my phones case an otter box defender is a bit hard to take off and they'll probably turn on the phone at some point if they where to pull the battery. Anyways if any one knows an app that could do this I would highly appreciate someone telling me what it is. Thanks in advance.
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I have an Otterbox Defender and it's quite simple to remove it, not hard at all.
Beyond that, if a thief was smart enough, they'd reinstall the battery and go into a method to factory reset it or write the ROM clean.
I understand your point of making things slightly more difficult, but nothing is theft proof, and as such, if they want it they'll take it.
Beyond that, even the best of trackers will not have the police knocking on doors to retrieve it... All the thief has to say is "I don't know what you're taking about" and refuse admittance in to his home.
No judge will authorize a warrant to enter a home to retrieve a cell phone that may or may not be there. GPS systems don't have pin point accuracy, so your phone could be next door or across the street.
So really theft trackers are ok, but slightly useless for retrieval methods.
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I've been curious as to whether it'd be possible to "write protect" your custom rom installs, essentially requiring a password to flash a new kernel or rom

Yeah I know nothing is theft proof but still I would like that little extra protection. And also I'm sure someone could make a recovery that could require a password. Someone should request that im pretty sure someone can do it with like twrp 2 and I would also rather have a thief steel a phone that's useless to them than something they could use.
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Avast Mobile Security writes the anti-theft to root. So even a factory reset the app will survive. and has sim detection.
Theft can just pull the battery that no one can stop. Unless you have a internal battery.

Yeah battery pull seems to be the only way to make any anti theft app useless and I use Cerberus which has a similar feature where even after you factory reset it will remain on the system pretty good considering I was able to get a free license to it
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I'm not sure anything will survive a new rom flash.
At least your data will be somewhat protected.

r29 said:
Avast Mobile Security writes the anti-theft to root. So even a factory reset the app will survive. and has sim detection.
Theft can just pull the battery that no one can stop. Unless you have a internal battery.
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How does it write anti-theft to root? Do you mean it makes it a system app?

This is one of the only things I like about Apple, is that if your phone gets stolen, you can easily lock it, and nothing gets passed it unless you go to and Apple store.
I'm sure there's another method, but that would require good knowledge of computers and code and most thief's probably don't know about that stuff.
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Would be smarter to build an app to make it look as if the phone had shutdown. Especially since of they can't shut it down from the power menu then they would just pull the battery.
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Locked

Hello, I have recently found a Sony Xperia on my seat while travelling on a plane. (I can't know whether it's the Arc or the Arc S). But, the thing is, the phone is locked so I can't access anything on it. Does anyone know how can I delete the password in order to use the phone?

abdelbachir said:
Hello, I have recently found a Sony Xperia on my seat while travelling on a plane. (I can't know whether it's the Arc or the Arc S). But, the thing is, the phone is locked so I can't access anything on it. Does anyone know how can I delete the password in order to use the phone?
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Yes but I won't tell you. Turn it in to the appropriate authority
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don't be that guy. just return it.
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Well, how do you guys expect me to return it if I can't even access the contact list or anything on the phone?
Don't even tell me to give it to the list and founds, we all know that it's useless.
I actually asked almost everyone on the plane whether it was their phone.

abdelbachir said:
Well, how do you guys expect me to return it if I can't even access the contact list or anything on the phone?
Don't even tell me to give it to the list and founds, we all know that it's useless.
I actually asked almost everyone on the plane whether it was their phone.
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Then that's the responsibility you have not upheld because you wouldn't even turn it to the lost and found
It should also be noted that you mentioned in your original post that you wanted to unlock the phone to use it. Not return it.
In the end, if you want to keep it for yourself instead of doing the responsible thing, that's entirely up to your conscience
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Because i said "use it" then it clearly implies that I don't plan to return it? English isn't my first language but I don't think it is contradictory. I can "use it" to access the contacts, etc.
You may say I'm irresponsible and all kind of stuff, but I think I was kind enough asking everybody on the plane whether the phone was theirs. Like it or not, you would have done the same in my place, try and give it back if the phone is the belonging of someone in the plane, if not, then too bad, I keep it.
I'm not a liar, I plan to keep the phone, as I said, I found it on a plane. The owner probably is in india, england, or whatever country.
You can judge me but be honnest, I did the necessary, giving it to the lost and found is just completely useless.

abdelbachir said:
Because i said "use it" then it clearly implies that I don't plan to return it? English isn't my first language but I don't think it is contradictory. I can "use it" to access the contacts, etc.
You may say I'm irresponsible and all kind of stuff, but I think I was kind enough asking everybody on the plane whether the phone was theirs. Like it or not, you would have done the same in my place, try and give it back if the phone is the belonging of someone in the plane, if not, then too bad, I keep it.
I'm not a liar, I plan to keep the phone, as I said, I found it on a plane. The owner probably is in india, england, or whatever country.
You can judge me but be honnest, I did the necessary, giving it to the lost and found is just completely useless.
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you should've mentioned that you asked everyone on the plane. when someone says they wanna bypass a lock screen they want to access the info. at least in my eyes.. you refuse to turn it into lost and found because you think its "useless" .. scoff. you found a free phone and your intentions are to keep it . plain and simple. did you leave the Sim card in it?? maybe they'll call it. but as long as you keep saying you want to keep it .. you look like a thief in my eyes. just turn it into lost and found even if you think its moot
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Yes, the Sim card is still in it, but if the phone is locked what do you think I could have done?
Damn, Lost and Found is a scam, and you know it perfectly that it would have been useless, the only thing that would have happened was either the phone would rot on a shelf or another idiot would take the phone.
I did ask everyone on the plane. You can act like I was a thief and think you are an angel but you know I did the right thing. Lost and found would be useless, you just can't admit it.

abdelbachir said:
the only thing that would have happened was either the phone would rot on a shelf or another idiot would take the phone.
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Or the person it belongs might have enquired, "has anyone found a Phone". Not everyone who works in "lost and found" is a scally....
A $2,000 tip is huge for any Las Vegas cab driver, but then Adam Woldemarim, a 42-year-old Ethiopian cabbie, did someone a huge favor: He turned in a lost laptop case stuffed with $221,000, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reports.
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- http://www.usatoday.com/story/ondeadline/2012/10/08/las-vegas-cabdriver-taxi-money-found/1619863/

abdelbachir said:
Hello, I have recently found a Sony Xperia on my seat while travelling on a plane. (I can't know whether it's the Arc or the Arc S). But, the thing is, the phone is locked so I can't access anything on it. Does anyone know how can I delete the password in order to use the phone?
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IMO, you should keep the phone and let the person call his phone. Since you can't unlock it, the phone would be useless to you. If the guy doesn't give a damn, then I wont know what to do with it.
Now to the subject of unlocking...
There is no way to bypass this except to use Google account or by flashing the phone with SEUS. The Google account must be associated with the phone, however.
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How to bypass unlocked bootloader 30 second wait on the bootup screen?

Seriously, google. Is it really necessary to make us wait 30 seconds if we have an unlocked bootloader?
How do I stop this nonsense without locking the bootloader again?

sorry but you cant.....
what i dont understand is why it needs to beep in such a high pitch sound each time.....

Yea it's pretty annoying, it's a Chromebook thing. My HP Pavilion would do it too but at least you could speed it up and continue by pressing spacebar, Cheep5k8 said that we could drop it down to 2 seconds BUT you have to remove the screen and flip the dev switch in order to do so.
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bummer. the tablet boots super fast otherwise.
if only i were a jedi. i'd flip that switch by force.

Still the same answer to this question?
On older devices I know folks smarter than me figured out a way to remove it. I no longer remember those methods.

That beep makes me jump every time!

m+a+r+k said:
That beep makes me jump every time!
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Scares the **** out of our dogs. They go and hide if I forget to cover the speakers each reboot!

WTH, I swear to dog I just went around and replaced all the damned batteries in the smoke detectors in the house because of that chirp. It's been driving me nuts!
It's a sad statement that I was hearing it so often at random times, just shows how unstable it is [emoji53]

There must be some hack to avoid this by replacing bootloader or some other partition, doesn't it?

Is there still no solution to the dreaded 30 second delay and beep? It's the only thing preventing this tablet from being 100% awesome with LineageOS.

It's annoying but as I only reset about once a month when a new update comes out I can live with it.

Not tested at the moment, but I was wondering...
If it's that annonying (and I find it too) it should be possible to relock the bootloader while keeping root. Of course, it implies that when you will need to unlock it again, it will wipe your device (no problem if like me, you install each rom from scratch)

DarkAdrien said:
Not tested at the moment, but I was wondering...
If it's that annonying (and I find it too) it should be possible to relock the bootloader while keeping root. Of course, it implies that when you will need to unlock it again, it will wipe your device (no problem if like me, you install each rom from scratch)
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If I recall correctly, this bricks the device. May be wrong though, would not recommend at all regardless.

Oh sorry, forgot to give my feedback here. I tested relocking the bootloader : unfortunately it wipes your tablet. So at the moment you cannot disable the 30s wait while keeping root and/or unlocked bootloader

DarkAdrien said:
Oh sorry, forgot to give my feedback here. I tested relocking the bootloader : unfortunately it wipes your tablet. So at the moment you cannot disable the 30s wait while keeping root and/or unlocked bootloader
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What if you're not bothered about losing root? I flashed PixelExperience/Pie 9.0 by followmsi, which is great. All I wanted is pie, I'm not bothered about root. If I re-lock the bootloader, I don't mind losing root or wiping the device; I'm just worried it will brick the tablet! Anyone know what may happen?