Anyone else having MikFroyo 4.6.1 running REALLY hot when on a call? I have noticed this now on two calls over 5 minutes long. It is just the top of the phone, like nearer to the speaker than down by mic. This is hot like I have to move the phone away from my ear....not just warm.
This is very worrisome. I am running stock 4.6.1 with what ever was built in...no new kernels, no themes, no mods. I do have live wallpapers on as I want to see what they really do to battery.
what tempurature is your phone getting up to?
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what tempurature is your phone getting up to?
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No idea how I would check that...but like I said...hot enough to have to pull away from ear...not hot enough to melt...(at moment)
Way hotter than it has ever been on any other ROM since I have owned it for last 7-8 months.
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No idea how I would check that...but like I said...hot enough to have to pull away from ear...not hot enough to melt...(at moment)
Way hotter than it has ever been on any other ROM since I have owned it for last 7-8 months.
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The quickest/easiest way to check battery temp and battery stats is to download and use an app called Battery Monitor Widget. Also, any time I have ever had any overheating issues, it was usually due to one or two things. Either my phone hated the kernel that I was using, and changing to a different kernel (typically without havs) would solve it. Or I had a runaway app that was throttling the CPU at 100% for whatever reason. I would suspect one of those two things (or both) are the problem.
Well, to sum things up, my phone has never been so slow and laggy ever since flashing Faux's ultimate kernel (v0.0.6u). (Not blaming anyone other than myself, just sayin)... Anyway, I have the feeling something internal went horribly wrong. Seeing that no other kernel other than Faux's ultimate had GPU turbo boost @ 320/220Mhz, I thought it would be nice to try it out with BeastMod 4.2. After using OC Daemon to set my CPU gov to ONDEMAND and stock clock speeds, I did the usual and tested the rom throughout the day. Battery live was insanely awful. The phone seemed to draining at a rate comparable to using YouTube on 4G, EVEN WHEN THE SCREEN WAS OFF!. Oh, and it got pretty warm, not hot, but noticeably warmer than usual. Knowing I would not be able to flash a new rom/kernel till later that day, I simply shut my phone off for the time being. When I got home, I discovered the problem. Even after switching back to... let's say Bullet w/ Juggernaut, I noticed that scrolling through anything, playing a game, running a benchmark (especially this one), caused the phone to slow down, hiccup, pause, lag, whatever you want to call it. In Quadrant, the fps for the 2d test was hitting high 20's before, and now, it jumps about the teens goes as low as 8fps. Score: 1801...2130... Am I running a dual core? Not anymore it seems... Feels like the second I touch my phone, thermal protection kicks in or something else is choking it and preventing my phone from being smooth like it used to be. Even tried underclocking to sensation speeds (1188). No help at all. Still craps out on me. I'm beginning to think I fried something inside. Broken Adreno? Hope not... Any ideas?
Note: Yes, I followed all ROM and kernel flashing procedures. I may be a noob (literally), but I do know how to flash properly.
Maybe try a factory reset and Odin back to stock to start from scratch.
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Exodian said:
Maybe try a factory reset and Odin back to stock to start from scratch.
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I'll give it a shot. Hoping Christmas Eve is lucky this year.
Hey everyone, just thought I would let it be known that (at least on my phone) overclocking past 1.8GHz causes horrible clicks and pops when listening through the headphone jack. I am using the Rogers Stock ROM with the latest KT747 kernel, and the issue appears when clocked to 1.89GHz, even though the rest of the phone runs stable. Took me a while to track down the problem!
I was hoping people with other kernels/roms/configurations could weigh in to see if this is an isolated or a widespread issue. For the time being I have just decided to overclock manually when it is needed.
EDIT: It appears after more testing that it was the kernel itself. Switching to stock kernel fixed the problem.
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Hey everyone, just thought I would let it be known that (at least on my phone) overclocking past 1.8GHz causes horrible clicks and pops when listening through the headphone jack. I am using the Rogers Stock ROM with the latest KT747 kernel, and the issue appears when clocked to 1.89GHz, even though the rest of the phone runs stable. Took me a while to track down the problem!
I was hoping people with other kernels/roms/configurations could weigh in to see if this is an isolated or a widespread issue. For the time being I have just decided to overclock manually when it is needed.
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isn't your phone blazing hot to the hand?
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isn't your phone blazing hot to the hand?
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Suprisingly the temperature increase is hardly noticeable. I tested while playing N. O. V. A. 3 and a few other games. My One XL got burning hot while overclocked to 1.7GHz, even though it's the same chip, which I find strange.
I had this probelm as well on my SGS3, ended up exchanging my phone for another reason and the new phone doesnt do it anymore.
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The galaxy s3 explodes with stock temps, I would be afraid to oc to 1.9GHz Oh, and I would edit the title from [FIX] it's kind of misleading since there isn't a fix here.
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For the time being I have just decided to overclock manually when it is needed.
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I'm still trying to figure out when you would "need" to overclock.
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I'm still trying to figure out when you would "need" to overclock.
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I'm a power user. I do just about everything with my phone, including lots of gaming with emulators. Perhaps I got a higher than normal quality chunk of silicon, but the phone didn't overheat at all, even when overclocked. The only time it got noticeably warm was while overclocked, gaming and charging all at once.
To those having this problem, it appears it wasn't related to overclocking after all, as the issue appeared a day later on stock frequencies. Changing back to a stock kernel fixed the problem.
In the end I sold it and bought an international SGS3 from eBay. I don't care for LTE, but the Wolfson DAC and Mali-400 GPU appeal to my usage case nicely.
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Perhaps I got a higher than normal quality chunk of silicon, but the phone didn't overheat at all, even when overclocked. The only time it got noticeably warm was while overclocked, gaming and charging all at once./QUOTE]
Seeing posts like this just make me cry inside...from the day I first got my phone and activated it, I have been having overheating problems. No one would take my device back so after my 30 day "return" period or whatever, I decided to root my phone to underclock/undervolt to solve my problem....but even know, my phone gets warm by just using stock Browser after a fresh install (not Chrome or anything else) WITH underclocking.
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I'm not exactly sure why its been overheating, I've noticed its been like this since I rooted. I've tried multiple roms, all 4.2.1 so I'm not sure if its that. Either its messing around in the camera, browsing the web, or in the system settings changing settings it usually begins to heat up.
What can I do to fix heating issue? Its usually 100+ temp.
Have you messed with CPU frequencies or voltages? If you OC, that can make your phone get hot. Or having your brightness high for a long period of time can as well. Your phone might also just not like certain kernels. Try going back to stock via Odin and see if it goes back to normal.
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Have you messed with CPU frequencies or voltages? If you OC, that can make your phone get hot. Or having your brightness high for a long period of time can as well. Your phone might also just not like certain kernels. Try going back to stock via Odin and see if it goes back to normal.
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I haven't OC but because of the heating I've tried under clocking. The tempt stay below 100 but, the phone became sluggish. Lower the brightness does have an impact on the temp. but it only slows it down compared to when it quickly became hot using applications.
I'm not exactly sure how kernels work but would I be able to use the samsung stock kernel on my AOKP rom while still keeping the features I'm already using?
You might actually have a faulty phone. You're the third person I know with an overheating issue. But the only difference is you are rooted. everyone else is actually stock and they have just bought their phones recently. One phone was only a day or two old and the other was under 3 months old. There is a chance you may have a faulty phone. But who knows.
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Are you doing this while charging the phone? Also your area might be very humid and hot bunch of stuff could contribute.
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There is something going on with my phone, Samsung Galaxy S3, V4.3 where occasionally, lately it has been once a day the power draw from the battery will spike as high as 2,000ma (2 amps). This last long enough to drop the charge 10 - 20% and creates excessive battery heat. It happens on charge or off charge. I have tried viewing the running processes with System Tuner and nothing shows up in the list using an excessive amount of CPU. Better Battery Staus also doesn't pinpoint the problem. I have most everything Greenified accept Google stuff of course and useful stuff like email, etc. I now believe it could be connected with GPS since I turned off the GPS I have not had another event other than a 800ma spikes that quickly go away. Need more time to confirm it is GPS related. Are there any programs that will log which applications are using GPS? Any other ideas what could be the problem? I don't understand why System Tuner doesn't show me which process is eating the battery? Can anyone point me in the right direction.
I thonk it may be the radio itself. I have recently noticed similar issues on mine but its usually when streaming videos. I rarely use gps so i cant speak on that right now.
If i have it plugged in while doing this, it gets hot enough to trigger a shutdown due to thermal event....it crashes!
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I thonk it may be the radio itself. I have recently noticed similar issues on mine but its usually when streaming videos. I rarely use gps so i cant speak on that right now.
If i have it plugged in while doing this, it gets hot enough to trigger a shutdown due to thermal event....it crashes!
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Same here, I also noticed with System Tuner that several applications that normally use 1% or less of CPU seem to spike to 8 - 30%. This all seem very odd. Now I am wondering if the background radio steals CPU cycles and leaves no time for normal applications. Anyway, the issues are reduced with GPS off although the battery does get warm sometimes without any reason I can fine. I'll try streaming audio and see if it triggers.
I would be willing to try a different radio. My current software is Model Number SGH-T999, Android version 4.3, BaseBand version T999UVUENC2, Kernel 3.0.31-1962493, Build number JSS15J.T999UVUENC2.
Unfortunately, no other radio will work. You can try one just to be sure about it. It wont brick, but just wont function. Youll have unknown imei and baseband until you flash the NC2 modem back.
Im currently running my port of S3Rx 4.0, but ill flash back to NC2 in a couple if days to test more on mine. Im also using a case/housing not meant for the T999 so theres a good chance that is contributing to my problems though.
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Unfortunately, no other radio will work. You can try one just to be sure about it. It wont brick, but just wont function. Youll have unknown imei and baseband until you flash the NC2 modem back.
Im currently running my port of S3Rx 4.0, but ill flash back to NC2 in a couple if days to test more on mine. Im also using a case/housing not meant for the T999 so theres a good chance that is contributing to my problems though.
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Okay, thank you for the replies. Please stop by if you learn anything new. Velis Auto Brightness is up to 64% CPU usage, grrr. I posted on developers forum maybe troubleshooting that will lead to a fix. The 2 amp spikes haven't occurred since I disabled GPS, so I am guess you are correct about the radio.
The problem returned so turning off GPS isn't a complete fix, seems to reduce the frequency is all. It looks like Android System is the problem. If I shut down pull the battery reboot the bad behaviour continues, only fix seems to wait it out. My next phone most likely will not be a sammy.
Im not really sure what to suggest at this point. I can say that what we are experiencing isnt typical though.
Out of curiosity, have you given any of the ported kk roms a try? I think my Sprint port is probably the most stable/bug free, but they are all good and ive had pretty good battery on each one compared stock. (Ive always had good battery life even on stock though, aside from a few recent issues that I believe are more my own fault). TMS3KK is a solid rom with very few issues. S3Rx 4.0 is as well, but ill be posting an update to it hopefully later today, so I cant say its really been thoroughly vetted yet. Still worth a look though, imo.
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Im not really sure what to suggest at this point. I can say that what we are experiencing isnt typical though.
Out of curiosity, have you given any of the ported kk roms a try? I think my Sprint port is probably the most stable/bug free, but they are all good and ive had pretty good battery on each one compared stock. (Ive always had good battery life even on stock though, aside from a few recent issues that I believe are more my own fault). TMS3KK is a solid rom with very few issues. S3Rx 4.0 is as well, but ill be posting an update to it hopefully later today, so I cant say its really been thoroughly vetted yet. Still worth a look though, imo.
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No time to try a different ROM yet. I should have time the weekend after next. Thank you for all your suggestions.
I tried replacing the battery. After the first charge the phone lasted for 2 days before the battery dropped to 5%. It took 6 hours to charge back to 100%. No problems until later, it seems to dislike being unplugged moved to a new location and plugged in again. This appears to be when the problem occurs. I usually just leave the phone plugged in all the time. I'll test further with the power before I make up my mind. I think this will be the last Sammy phone for me?
Is it a non stock battery? I've always had issues with those reporting correctly.
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Is it a non stock battery? I've always had issues with those reporting correctly.
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Usually I would buy a non stock battery however since this phone lays next to me in bed to wake me in the mornings I am a little concerned with a fire so it is a Samsung battery from Samsung. Leaving it unplugged for a bit and plugging it back in didn't work stop the battery drain. There are no processes eating the battery according to System Tuner so got to change the ROM.
Should I try a ROM first or kernel or both? Could it be an Xposed module, thinking about turning all of those hacks off?
I just remembered, this only happens if the screen is on and the phone is plugged into the charger. And rebooting doesn't clear the problem.
I would start with a stock based ROM. If it were me I'd go full stock rooted. But yeah I'd ditch xposed for now. You might even try reflashing your current ROM, factory resetting and this time don't use any exposed mods. If it still has problems, then try a different ROM.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to find xposed was the culprit. Its really cool, and the dev is amazing, but I prefer not to use it at all. IMO, it's much better to have the mods coded into the ROM itself.
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I would start with a stock based ROM. If it were me I'd go full stock rooted. But yeah I'd ditch xposed for now. You might even try reflashing your current ROM, factory resetting and this time don't use any exposed mods. If it still has problems, then try a different ROM.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to find xposed was the culprit. Its really cool, and the dev is amazing, but I prefer not to use it at all. IMO, it's much better to have the mods coded into the ROM itself.
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Thank you Doc, will do so and report back here the results.
My phone does the same thing now. My phone never did this when I first got it a couple years ago. I use GPS a lot because son plays on a travel hockey team. I could drive 3 - 4 hours away with the phone on and plugged in using the GPS without any issues. Now, my phone gets so hot in about an hour of the same type of use and it shuts down.
I thought that maybe there was something wrong with the phone because of age but now I see it could be something different.
It very well could be age related, or it could be partially due to that too. But I'd do as I suggested above and run stock for a bit to test. If on a custom rom, and especially kernel, you could run into issues like that too.
If you have the same problem on stock, (and you're sure its not an app acting up), there's a very good possibility that its more of a hardware related issue.
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And it is not the battery. I can't load stock until next weekend, need my phone for work.
You can always use better battery stats to investigate while you use it normally. Let it log all wakelocks, including kernel wakelocks for a full cycle.
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You can always use better battery stats to investigate while you use it normally. Let it log all wakelocks, including kernel wakelocks for a full cycle.
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Tried that, been there, odd thing is nothing shows there. I'm gonna reload with stock per your suggestion next weekend and if that doesn't work I'll try a custom kernel.
Try remove greenify app and see what happens. Cuz with my case the latest version (2.4.x.x) of greenify driving my phone nuts. That app used to be great.
I'm back. Loaded stock 4.3 ROM / kernel, radio is at newest versions, I am going to say the problem is gone. The battery heats up to about 32-33 degrees Celsius however the phone isn't hot like it is burning up so I believe the problem is like Doc suggested earlier with the radio. Which would explain why the process monitors never see any rouge application using to much CPU. So after some pondering, this doesn't stop a rouge application from using to much bandwidth and cooking the radio so to type. If I had to pin it down I am going to suggest it maybe one of these two applications: FCC speedtest and or Opensignal or some other application. Both of the listed applications periodically test the network bandwidth and report back to a central server. I suspect that this maybe trigger the heat problem from the extend radio usage. No proof at this time just conjecture.
I am considering jumping to an AOSP ROM to be free of the Samsung bloat, NOT CM, don't care for CM, does anyone have any good suggestions to try?