LIVE Apple vs Samsung verdict[TheVerge] - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

http://live.theverge.com/apple-samsung-verdict-live/

Ophois said:
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Checking it now...

There's nothing there that you will find intelligent or reasonable.

Nothing yet.
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Pretty much expected. What all of this patent ridiculousness really unveils is how monumentally idiotic IP patents have become.
Not to be a fan boy, but Apple can sue as much as it wants, but they cannot avoid the fact that Android is open, flexible, free and modular. Hardware manufacturers can fight for the right to say they have the best hardware, while Google and hard working independent devs can churn out better software, almost independent of one another. The mix of those things will push the envelope of what our devices can do.
Sorry Apple, but innovation and customer choice will still continue to kick you in your expensive, well engineered shiny balls.
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Would you like to buy an iphone or an iphone?

As an Apple fan boy who left the dark side, I can honestly say that Android will win. open-source is just so much of a better business model. Apple cannot compete with a community of devs working together towards a common goal. Freedom. So goodbye Apple, hello future!
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Lol, Gave you a thanks for making me laugh.
Was just browsing the site and ran across this... which I personally think is BS. The patented design that Apple is suing for is simply too vague... I personally feel that the Epic 4G Touch looks absolutely nothing like an iPhone and yet the jury has decided that it is infringing on the patent.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/24/3266382/apple-vs-samsung-design-patent-infringment
EDIT: Notice how they used the white SGS2 in this picture comparing it to the iPhone...
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/30/3199424/apple-vs-samsung-trial-guide/in/2971889

Mattix724 said:
Lol, Gave you a thanks for making me laugh.
Was just browsing the site and ran across this... which I personally think is BS. The patented design that Apple is suing for is simply too vague... I personally feel that the Epic 4G Touch looks absolutely nothing like an iPhone and yet the jury has decided that it is infringing on the patent.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/24/3266382/apple-vs-samsung-design-patent-infringment
EDIT: Notice how they used the white SGS2 in this picture comparing it to the iPhone...
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/30/3199424/apple-vs-samsung-trial-guide/in/2971889
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Yeah the whole thing is pathetic.
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"ALL IN ALL, APPLE WANTS $2.525 BILLION"
Are you effing kidding me?!?! Grow up Apple.. Go play in the corner by yourself until you learn to get along with others you cry baby little BLEEP!
EDIT: Looks like Apple got half of what they were originally seeking
"Jury awards Apple $1.05 billion in Samsung patent dispute ruling"

Mattix724 said:
"ALL IN ALL, APPLE WANTS $2.525 BILLION"
Are you effing kidding me?!?! Grow up Apple.. Go play in the corner by yourself until you learn to get along with others you cry baby little BLEEP!
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Samsung should pay it, then turn around and not sell Apple the parts they need
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What does this really means to Samsung, is touchwiz over? Becuase we already got new design with the S3, real innovation is coming?
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rockypr said:
What does this really means to Samsung, is touchwiz over? Becuase we already got new design with the S3, real innovation is coming?
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It would be nice if Samsung would just embrace the aosp design and drop the skins.
Along with HTC...
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It's not over yet... Looks like the jury has come back into the court room to revise a few things.
And I really hope that Samsung does something to change the TouchWiz UI because of this... Make it a little more unique and make it stand out from the crowd so that this never happens again.

aww yea
we apple now

DonutGrunt said:
aww yea
we apple now
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Wait what?...

Apple had to pull all their iPads and iPhones from shelves in s.Korea, and Sammy is currently withholding then licensing for the 4g LTE radios apple needs for the iPhone 5. Apple won't agree to the price Sammy wants, Sammy is basically trying to make apple pay themselves in the end by jacking up then licensing fees for the LTE radios that work with the processors apple uses in the iPhones. Smart move IMO
We are legion, for we are many.
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Good... if Apple wants LTE in the iPhone 5, make them pay for it. With all these frivolous patents and lawsuits someone needs to play bully back at them.
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"So, just to be clear, when faced with 700 decisions the jury was good to go. But when faced with two decisions, they need some guidance."
This made me LOL!

I think Apple padded the jury box.

Esoteric68 said:
I think Apple padded the jury box.
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I think that is BLATANTLY OBVIOUS....
http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/24/ha...-apple-damages-without-finding-infringements/

Related

Samsung Superbowl commercial

I figure i would post this just in case anybody didn't see it this it was super funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V40oo4kkzHg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I love Samsung but that commercial was just alright. My sister saw Galaxy Note and was left in awe (she's an iPhone user). Super Bowl commercials this year kinda sucked though IMO. However, I did like the trailer for Dictator
eao1991 said:
I love Samsung but that commercial was just alright. My sister saw Galaxy Note and was left in awe (she's an iPhone user). Super Bowl commercials this year kinda sucked though IMO. However, I did like the trailer for Dictator
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They sucked big time.
Anyone catch Miranda Kerr in the commercial?
I love the Samsung commercials and how they bag on iPhone users. The note looks siiick though, its gonna be a beast!
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My sister in law who has a iphone4s called me and said holy **** what is that thing it looks incredible....... I told her to ask her iphone
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My sister in law who has a iphone4s called me and said holy **** what is that thing it looks incredible....... I told her to ask her iphone
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I just feel of my sofa laughing
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My sister in law who has a iphone4s called me and said holy **** what is that thing it looks incredible....... I told her to ask her iphone
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That is some funny sheot right there Itell ya. LMFAO..
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I love Samsung but that commercial was just alright. My sister saw Galaxy Note and was left in awe (she's an iPhone user). Super Bowl commercials this year kinda sucked though IMO. However, I did like the trailer for Dictator
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I have to agree about that Dictator movie. That looked funny. I was messing with my Nexus during some commercials and missed the Sammy one. Thanks! Edit...interesting.. I have been using this firm sponge like tipped stylus on my Epic Touch for a few weeks and I love it. Obviously I can't write on the screen but between that and my Bluetooth, my phone stays immaculate
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I do not think people are going to realize how big the Note really is from that commercial and anyone who thinks it is the same size as your larger phone will be in for a big surprise.
I wear my phone on a belt clip and for some reason I do not see that happening with the Galaxy note. I would like to know for the people who plan on getting the Note how they plan on carrying it.
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I do not think people are going to realize how big the Note really is from that commercial and anyone who thinks it is the same size as your larger phone will be in for a big surprise.
I wear my phone on a belt clip and for some reason I do not see that happening with the Galaxy note. I would like to know for the people who plan on getting the Note how they plan on carrying it.
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I messed with a 5" Galaxy (forgot the name) and was wondering where things are headed. I think the Epic Touch is the perfect size. Oh and some terrible pics of the stylus I use on my phones
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john they are much different. this is like a pro level stylus that uses magnetic input. almost like on the touch pro type of screen accurate only now it is also a cap screen instead of resistive.
Reminds me a bit of the Motorola Xoom commercial last year. Although this one rags on Apple fans more blatantly.
Like others, I think the Galaxy Note is just too big. Even the E4GT is pushing it for me, although it's thinness and light weight help a bit. Plus I would not carry the stylus with me, which defeats one of the purposes of buying the Note. It looks like a cool phone but just isn't for me.
donovan1983 said:
Reminds me a bit of the Motorola Xoom commercial last year. Although this one rags on Apple fans more blatantly.
Like others, I think the Galaxy Note is just too big. Even the E4GT is pushing it for me, although it's thinness and light weight help a bit. Plus I would not carry the stylus with me, which defeats one of the purposes of buying the Note. It looks like a cool phone but just isn't for me.
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The stylus slips into the back of the phone....can't even really tell its there....of it wasn't for the GS3 coming out I would get it....got to play with one a few days ago.....it would definatly fit in the average back pocket.....feels thinner than my E4GT
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I cant believe i am saying this but I am honestly considering the Note...yeah its BIG but thin, and yes its not for everybody...hopefully itll ship with ICS by the time it gets to Sprint, and will be rooted within the first 24 hours LoL
Haha, thanks OP....Somehow I missed the commercial last night, so this was the first time I had a chance to see it (see it, that is, on a FULLY working version of CM9 on my freaking Nook Color ereader....goddang, I love Android)....
Anyway, I don't know what I was expecting from it, but I wasn't really expecting it to be about the Note, and I DEFINITELY wasn't expecting Samsung to bring back that most epic song by The Darkness: I give it an all thumbs up rating.
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Haha, thanks OP....Somehow I missed the commercial last night, so this was the first time I had a chance to see it (see it, that is, on a FULLY working version of CM9 on my freaking Nook Color ereader....goddang, I love Android)....
Anyway, I don't know what I was expecting from it, but I wasn't really expecting it to be about the Note, and I DEFINITELY wasn't expecting Samsung to bring back that most epic song by The Darkness: I give it an all thumbs up rating.
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Thnx no problem
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ilostmypistons said:
My sister in law who has a iphone4s called me and said holy **** what is that thing it looks incredible....... I told her to ask her iphone
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They need this in their next commercial.
"Hey, what phone is that! Why don't you ask your phone?"
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john they are much different. this is like a pro level stylus that uses magnetic input. almost like on the touch pro type of screen accurate only now it is also a cap screen instead of resistive.
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Oh I know it...I am just trying not to have phone envy so soon...lol
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Check this out

People give me your thoughts in regards to this http://www.todaysiphone.com/2012/06/foxconn-ceo-says-iphone-5-will-put-galaxy-s-iii-to-shame/
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Isnt that the same stuff thats said before the release of every iteration of the iPhone?
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People give me your thoughts in regards to this http://www.todaysiphone.com/2012/06/foxconn-ceo-says-iphone-5-will-put-galaxy-s-iii-to-shame/
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hes just trying to sell his product, that is all. what do you expect him to say, anything manufactured by his company and sold by crApple to stay away from? thats something that i would say..
The IP5 may indeed spank the SGSIII in some people's eyes, they do get to have a standard to go against now, it's an endless game of leapfrog and trying to raise the bar.
I'm an outlaw though, it's hard to be an outlaw with an Iphone, that's more of a yuppy/emo/hipster thing.
If it still has that stiff brick like shape its a doa
Lol don't buy that Samsung device, but the one we are manufacturing
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People give me your thoughts in regards to this http://www.todaysiphone.com/2012/06/foxconn-ceo-says-iphone-5-will-put-galaxy-s-iii-to-shame/
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If the upcoming iPhone were to look like the concept shown in the article, I'd buy it. That thing is gorgeous.
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I actually think SGS3 has already put itself to shame
Must come with an embroidered jizz rag.
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If the upcoming iPhone were to look like the concept shown in the article, I'd buy it. That thing is gorgeous.
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Get the 4s then, cause it looks just like it, and the same iOS since 07 with a few added features.
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People give me your thoughts in regards to this http://www.todaysiphone.com/2012/06/foxconn-ceo-says-iphone-5-will-put-galaxy-s-iii-to-shame/
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Won't iPhone 5 be released like 4-5 months after initial international release of S3? That's an eternity for technology. I'd sure hope it beats the S3 handily.
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I do believe the iPhone 5 will be a nice device but remember these are the same people that convinced iPhone 4 owners that they needed to by an iPhone 4S because of Siri and people actually believed they owned the best device because of this.
Luckily Android users are smarter then that and do not buy into the whole hype building from these manufacturer's. We need to see the worth in the upgrade or a lot of us will not spend the money like iHippies.
Plus we already saw what iOS 6 is bringing to the table, one of the main focuses is Siri fixes. lol
I dunno...
The thing holding back the GNex, SGSII, SGSIII and other Android devices is the AMOLED screen. If they had the display of the iPhone 4s but larger, it would spank the iPhone with one hand tied behind it's back.
Wilsonium said:
The thing holding back the GNex, SGSII, SGSIII and other Android devices is the AMOLED screen. If they had the display of the iPhone 4s but larger, it would spank the iPhone with one hand tied behind it's back.
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iPhone's display has been blown the hell out of proportion. It is nice, but it is not THAT nice.
adrynalyne said:
iPhone's display has been blown the hell out of proportion. It is nice, but it is not THAT nice.
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I agree. Nothing wrong with amoled. I heard the next nexus may contain upd display. Unbreakable Plane Display.
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Which leads to the next question:
Why do we care what a sweatshop CEO says?
Apple will hopefully never excel. **** company making **** products for a ridiculously high price.
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Get the 4s then, cause it looks just like it, and the same iOS since 07 with a few added features.
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Looks nothing like that.
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Looks nothing like that.
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Yeah that rough texture makes it look entirely different.
/sarcasm off
Nexus 4 will destroy it anyways. Hoping it has the omap 5.
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I do believe the iPhone 5 will be a nice device but remember these are the same people that convinced iPhone 4 owners that they needed to by an iPhone 4S because of Siri and people actually believed they owned the best device because of this.
Luckily Android users are smarter then that and do not buy into the whole hype building from these manufacturer's. We need to see the worth in the upgrade or a lot of us will not spend the money like iHippies.
Plus we already saw what iOS 6 is bringing to the table, one of the main focuses is Siri fixes. lol
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That and Facebook integration, which they act like its never been done before. Taking more features from android.

Apple beat samsung

What!!!??!!
Apple beat samsung in the courts today.
No accross the board for invalidity.!!!
Edit: chexk this out. Its live
http://live.theverge.com/apple-samsung-verdict-live/
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Wow...This is HUGE!
http://mashable.com/2012/08/24/apple-samsung-verdict/
Can you believe it. Samsungs reputation down the drain.
Watch them lose in other countries now..
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Still not buying a trash Apple product. See if I care.
Bring on the appeals process...
Did this surprise you? Just wait until Google and Motorola **** Apple in their asses. Some won a small battle. But they started a war that they can't win.
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Did this surprise you? Just wait until Google and Motorola **** Apple in their asses. Some won a small battle. But they started a war that they can't win.
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I don't know man, since most of this is new territory, "case law" will play a role in some decisions, and now Apple has case law on their side of things when it comes to suing Android mfg's
This is of course not going to affect any of us directly, or our phones, or the future of Android, but it may be the first of many long, drawn out rapings of Android mfg's. Which in turn could discourage companies from jumping on the Android bandwagon.
APPLE is a cry baby.
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Hopefully Google/Motorola can win but now its going to tough since Samsung lost an very important case........ only time will tell if we are going to live in a apple free america or a apple controlled america
**** apple, those jury are dumb trash...
The jurors all got free iPads lmao. Even though, i'll never buy an Apple product ever!
Just wait for Google/Moto vs Apple is done. That's byebye Apple.
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this was apples last stand before android shoves ios up their candy asses. while it seems bad now, in retrospect it will be an insignificant win. i plan on keeping my home apple free as it has always been. down with the devil! lol
^^I agree!^^:beer:
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If all else fails, I do miss my old Nokia...
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Ovi?
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This really makes me sick...
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I don't even understand how apple won. The rectangular shape is one of the few and effective ways to make a cell phone. What do they expect, circular phones?
This is not over by a long shot, Judge Lucky (I didn't miss-spell it) Koh will have her ass handed to her in the appeals court, I am pretty sure the appeals court will throw out this verdict. All her judgements have been overturned in the appeals court.
Btw, all Sammy has to do is change up the designs a bit and there ya go.
The jury pool was tainted, how in the hell can you have a jury based out of silicon valley?
Anyway I am sure Sammy will be just fine.
Most other countries have already throw out these cases.
This lawsuit effects old phones, only real liability is the stupid Judge in this case, she might ban Samsung all together, she is an idiot of course. That is why we have an appeals process in this country.
BTW, if you are wondering why Google waited so long to file a lawsuit after they bought Motorola it's because they researched the hell out of the apple infringements. Apple just woke up a sleeping giant. Time will tell.
I blame Samsung for trying to copy iOS to begin like the icons on galaxy s 1, one of the reasons I didn't like it now they went more Android like so I like that
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Wow this is sad to hear that CrApple won the case that they deserved too loose. I think the judges go with apple just because of the reputation. I just hope that google and motorola gets thei **** together and do those patents to take down apple.
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Thoughts about nee iPhone?

What is everyone's thoughts about the new iPhone?
Me, I don't see much any difference between the 4s except it being 4" and having lte.
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What did you expect, this is apple.
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They called that an upgrade?..its the Same crap ,smh..that is not even in the same category as our S3
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S3 and Note 2 still the kings
samsung is going to sue them because the new one is now 16:9!
Not impressed at all. Where is the Apple innovation?
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My thoughts: F**K APPLE!
what innovation?
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babymatteo said:
My thoughts: F**K APPLE!
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Well said lol ^_^
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what innovation?
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Exactly!
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I think 4 inch would have been good last year by now is seems to small, I owned most high end smartphones, I think the one x has the best screen yet, and the Samsung s3 feels really good in the hand, the One S is better looking then the iPhone 5 IMO, but what I prefer now for my second phone is probably the new nokia windows phone it looks really good (including the OS), the only good thing about the iOS in general are the apps IMO, I never have a problem on my ipad or iPhone playing gta and I do sometimes on my GS3, I also miss tweetbot on my gs3 but I prefer jelly bean at the moment I can't wait till we get the official from Samsung
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iPhone 5 - 18% thinner, 4" screen and turn by turn navigation and that's Apple's innovation. What a joke! I had all of this and more last year on my Galaxy S2
Apple is still around?
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Apple is still around?
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Samsungs got it in the bag with sgs3 and note 2 ....keeping the excitement alive with new innovation instead of flipping the old one around like Apple is doing. Seriously i was expecting much more from Apple they certinally have enough money to try new stuff so why arent they? i guess they are done, they are being blinded by the few ignorant sheep that call them "god" of phones. What about smart people who know their was something better from the G1 days,Apple cant compete i guess.
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I think 4 inch would have been good last year by now is seems to small, I owned most high end smartphones, I think the one x has the best screen yet, and the Samsung s3 feels really good in the hand, the One S is better looking then the iPhone 5 IMO, but what I prefer now for my second phone is probably the new nokia windows phone it looks really good (including the OS), the only good thing about the iOS in general are the apps IMO, I never have a problem on my ipad or iPhone playing gta and I do sometimes on my GS3, I also miss tweetbot on my gs3 but I prefer jelly bean at the moment I can't wait till we get the official from Samsung
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I would attribute the difference in software performance to the fact that companies put most of their resources into iOS development first then android. So you get a much more refined software on ios then you would on android.
It's honestly a flop. The back of the device is cute but besides that.. 4 Inch 4s. Same exact design and everything. I knew it was going to be bad but not this bad lol. I'm not even a legit Apple hater because i wanted the first Iphone (don't you lie and say you didn't want it when it first came out). Pretty funny though to be honest since i've been saying the 5 would be this ever since the rumors began like last year. :highfive: The ONLY thing i can honestly say apple wins over android is Apps. Been saying it for years even though i'm an android fan it's just the honest truth. The apps are better and always comes out first on IOS.
All-in-all a pretty standard upgrade across the board in typical apple fashion.
FINALLY the screen is at least somewhat larger. Fit and finish as always looks to be top notch. The single dynamic antenna is cool. I'm sure the new A6 processor will benchmark impressively. The camera looks to be even better and will likely be the best on a smart phone for the time being.
Some disappointments would be the lack of NFC technology (which Apple holds a lot of patents on, I would expect it to be integrated in two years on the new hardware model or next years refresh at the earliest), and the fact that battery life appears to be the same as the 4S (no improvement), new connector is kinda a bummer (although it was definitely time to upgrade)
Overall its a pretty substantial spec/hardware bump all around, and since people still buy them in droves I don't think Apple had much reason to do much of anything else.
A lot of the improvements are also part of iOS 6, the biggest of which appears to be seamless facebook integration from nearly anywhere.
babymatteo said:
My thoughts: F**K APPLE!
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justice26 said:
Not impressed at all. Where is the Apple innovation?
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litigation > innovation haha
sluma said:
I would attribute the difference in software performance to the fact that companies put most of their resources into iOS development first then android. So you get a much more refined software on ios then you would on android.
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Very true, which is why it was such a sigh of relief when all the GSIII's in the U.S. have identical specs.
In addition to a more refined software experience, the huge iPhone user base using essentially the same phone ensures that when a breakthrough app is conceived it will inevitably be made for iOS first and foremost in nearly all cases
FAIL...
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You know that Samsung commercial Vs. Iphone ?

You know that samsung commercial ? Where the ifans are waiting in line and in awe of the samsung galaxy s3's ? :cyclops: Yea that just happened to me in my daughters ballet class last night. Had like 3 different parents stop watching their kid to watch me video tape mine because they were in awe from my phone. Thats wassup. :good: They all had iphones which made it even more funny for myself. They were all like, "wow that is beautiful" "thats so big, but i like it" You should have seen their face when i unleashed the slow motion feature on them. WHOA !!!!! hahahahaha."What kind of phone is that" "Is that a phone" "Who makes it", Man they all lost it. Thought others would enjoy this story and if any one else has had the samsung commercial experience with their Note 2's. hahahahahahaha :laugh:
I don't actually have a story to share, but I just wanted to thank you, because I just woke up super bummed out that I have to work in 30 minutes with no mood whatsoever and you made me laugh loud with this post. Specially with "You should have seen their face when i unleashed the slow motion feature on them."
hahah Unleashed.. Thanks for sharing.
Haha, thats funny. It would have been funnier if you had a gs3.
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Love it. Screw crapple
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That comes to show how well apple advertises their "innovations". Thats what Samsung jis doing now and is doing a pretty darn good job.
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Hahaha.. i love this!! Take that ifans!
How and the heck do you do slow motion? Lol I looked but I don't see it under features...
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Love it. Screw crapple
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This phone CRUSHES any phone apple has ever made!! I have had ALL of the iphones and I can tell you that while the build quality is better they are heavily lacking in the software department and that is why Samsung is killin it!! I would rather have a phone made out of plastic then pay them greedy bastards one more of my dollars!! Apple has gotten to be too greedy and it's going to creep up on them in the end! LOL Just my opinion of course.... Maybe "the new iphone" that comes out next year will have a screen that I can see...? I need a MAN phone not a phone made for girls!
Markor13 said:
How and the heck do you do slow motion? Lol I looked but I don't see it under features...
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go into your camera and switch to video..look at the quick keys on the right.. the center or third button that looks like a camera with a reel holds all the magic... enjoy
shojus said:
This phone CRUSHES any phone apple has ever made!! I have had ALL of the iphones and I can tell you that while the build quality is better they are heavily lacking in the software department and that is why Samsung is killin it!! I would rather have a phone made out of plastic then pay them greedy bastards one more of my dollars!! Apple has gotten to be too greedy and it's going to creep up on them in the end! LOL Just my opinion of course.... Maybe "the new iphone" that comes out next year will have a screen that I can see...? I need a MAN phone not a phone made for girls!
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Remember crapples half microsoft now too right. A match made in heaven.
Samsung, faster processors, bigger screens the best iphone yet
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