Hey guys, hopefully someone can help.
I have a Nexus with severe charging, overheating and battery drain issues. It's on stock jellybean, factory reset, no extra apps installed, and the battery will discharge in about 1 hour by just sitting idle. It takes maybe 2 days to actually charge to 80%. I'm about to replace the charging port to see if that will help.
However, it's also getting extremely hot. Not just mildly warm. And this is when it's just sitting there idle. Not only that, it's staying hot when the phone is off and not even charging. The only time it stops is when the battery fully discharges in about 2 hours... while the phone is still off.
Anyone experience this?
I have a grey market Galaxy Nexus which means I can't send it in for US repairs.
pwnx said:
Hey guys, hopefully someone can help.
I have a Nexus with severe charging, overheating and battery drain issues. It's on stock jellybean, factory reset, no extra apps installed, and the battery will discharge in about 1 hour by just sitting idle. It takes maybe 2 days to actually charge to 80%. I'm about to replace the charging port to see if that will help.
However, it's also getting extremely hot. Not just mildly warm. And this is when it's just sitting there idle. Not only that, it's staying hot when the phone is off and not even charging. The only time it stops is when the battery fully discharges in about 2 hours... while the phone is still off.
Anyone experience this?
I have a grey market Galaxy Nexus which means I can't send it in for US repairs.
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sounds like its time to replace the battery. is the battery leaking, discolored, warped, or "pregnant"?
simms22 said:
sounds like its time to replace the battery. is the battery leaking, discolored, warped, or "pregnant"?
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Yes, I'm also saying it's the time for a battery replacement. They are fairly cheap, so you can fix it without spending too much money.
lorin_93 said:
Yes, I'm also saying it's the time for a battery replacement. They are fairly cheap, so you can fix it without spending too much money.
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Nope, battery looks brand new, but I'll definitely order a new battery. Hopefully the ones on eBay are really OEM.
My battery gets to 122f while charging and wifi tether. I try to keep it near a fan and it helps some. But I don't have any battery drain issues. You probably just need a new battery.
daniel4518 said:
My battery gets to 122f while charging and wifi tether. I try to keep it near a fan and it helps some. But I don't have any battery drain issues. You probably just need a new battery.
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New charging port, new battery and phone still charges extremely slow and drains real fast. About 20% in 40 minutes. Takes around 30 minutes to charge 2%.
Then when I take the battery out and put it back in, the phone thinks the battery is empty (I took it out with 30% charge left). Not sure what to do at this point since the only thing left to do is replace the mainboard which will probably cost more than it's worth.
Anyone have any other ideas?
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After threatening to throw this phone in the ocean, it started working normally.
Trying to figure out what was wrong with it, opened it up again, put back in the old charging port (which had a higher revision number than the one I bought).
I waited 1.5 days for the phone to charge to 96%. Drained it to about 20% in less than 2hrs. Stuck it into the charger again but the battery was still draining. All the way down to 7% where it seemingly stayed stuck for a day. Then I guess it shut itself off.
Went to check on the phone randomly and saw on the power-off screen the battery had charged to 100% which never has happened and especially not in less than a day.
Turned it back on, started using it and battery drains sort of normally now. Overheating has also disappeared completely and now it also charges normally.
So in summary, I have no idea if this problem is going to resurface and I really didn't do anything to fix it. Though I would really like to know what happened to have it malfunction like this for almost a month.
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my battery seems to be dieing a slow death
charged it for the first time on tuesday evening and with lots of use it(and i mean lots) lasted until thursday morning, last 2 charges have last a lot less
took it off charge at 5.00am this morning it has had about 8 hrs standy and an hours use and it down to 2 bars left
any one els had this
combat goofwing said:
my battery seems to be dieing a slow death
charged it for the first time on tuesday evening and with lots of use it(and i mean lots) lasted until thursday morning, last 2 charges have last a lot less
took it off charge at 5.00am this morning it has had about 8 hrs standy and an hours use and it down to 2 bars left
any one els had this
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No issues with battery here.
My advice would be to completely drain the battery.
Keep powering the device on until there is absolutely no juice left.
Then remove the battery, re-insert and leave to fully charge without powering the device on.
See if that resolves your issues.
Battery life on mine is excellent after a weeks useage, no complaints here.
Cheers,
Beasty
beast0898 said:
No issues with battery here.
My advice would be to completely drain the battery.
Keep powering the device on until there is absolutely no juice left.
Then remove the battery, re-insert and leave to fully charge without powering the device on.
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Have you tried this yourself? Because, I wouldn't probably be comfortable draining the battery quite as empty as suggested by this method. The Li-Ion batteries need some charge to be left in them even when they are "completely" discharged, or else they are damaged (it may actually stop accepting charge, so recharging becomes impossible).
I think it should be enough to just leave the device on for as long time as possible - until the device finally shuts itself down. Then do a full recharge and you should be ready to go.
Of course if you've done this yourself and can confirm the battery still accepts charge after such procedure, then no serious damage has presumably been done. Wouldn't go quite this far myself, though.
Cheers
I can't say for certain about the TP2 battery but most Li-Ion batteries will have a tiny protection circuit in them to prevent over charging and over discharging. Becasue of the potentially explosive nature of Li-Ion batteries I would be very suprised if the TP2 battery didn't have any protection.
Yes that's true. And TP2 most certainly has this chip. However, I'm not 100 % sure if that chip can protect the battery against this kind of "abuse". It probably can, but I wouldn't like to be the first in line to check if it can or not...
I agree with what you all say, and yes I'm pretty sure that the protection circuits are there. I haven't tried it on my Rhodium, but did on my Raphael after lending to a colleague who was incapable of maintaining. Charge would hold for around three to four hours of useage, pretty damn useless after a week of abuse.
I totally disharged as much as I could, then left overnight with the device powered off and since then the battery useage has been as norm.
I know were not supposed to be affected by memory issues, but go figure...........
Cheers,
Beasty
aBE-One said:
Have you tried this yourself? Because, I wouldn't probably be comfortable draining the battery quite as empty as suggested by this method. The Li-Ion batteries need some charge to be left in them even when they are "completely" discharged, or else they are damaged (it may actually stop accepting charge, so recharging becomes impossible).
I think it should be enough to just leave the device on for as long time as possible - until the device finally shuts itself down. Then do a full recharge and you should be ready to go.
Of course if you've done this yourself and can confirm the battery still accepts charge after such procedure, then no serious damage has presumably been done. Wouldn't go quite this far myself, though.
Cheers
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ive done this countless numbers of times, it doesnt damage the battery. well, at least none of the ones i have owned
combat goofwing said:
my battery seems to be dieing a slow death
charged it for the first time on tuesday evening and with lots of use it(and i mean lots) lasted until thursday morning, last 2 charges have last a lot less
took it off charge at 5.00am this morning it has had about 8 hrs standy and an hours use and it down to 2 bars left
any one els had this
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Yes.
aBE-One said:
Yes that's true. And TP2 most certainly has this chip. However, I'm not 100 % sure if that chip can protect the battery against this kind of "abuse". It probably can, but I wouldn't like to be the first in line to check if it can or not...
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I have done it many times . Never had a problem...........SO FAR .
OK, it seems that's safe then. Good to know in case my TP2 starts to show similar behaviour.
beast0898 said:
No issues with battery here.
My advice would be to completely drain the battery.
Keep powering the device on until there is absolutely no juice left.
Then remove the battery, re-insert and leave to fully charge without powering the device on.
See if that resolves your issues.
Battery life on mine is excellent after a weeks useage, no complaints here.
Cheers,
Beasty
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did as you said drained it right down even powering on again to make sure
gave it a full charge while powered off
from 5 this morning it has been in stand by and has about an hours use and im down to 2 bars on the main screen
when fully charged i check the power in setting and the last green bar was not lit
nothing running in the background
any other ides to try to sort it before i contact MPD and see about getting a new battery
thanks again for the help
combat goofwing said:
did as you said drained it right down even powering on again to make sure
gave it a full charge while powered off
from 5 this morning it has been in stand by and has about an hours use and im down to 2 bars on the main screen
when fully charged i check the power in setting and the last green bar was not lit
nothing running in the background
any other ides to try to sort it before i contact MPD and see about getting a new battery
thanks again for the help
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Nope,
Sorry mate, sounds like your battery is a dead one.
Cheers,
Beasty
been in touch with HTC uk
they have told me to do the following
from flat
charge for 10mins then use the phone do this 3 times each time making it dead before recharging
thay say this will condition the battery
does this sound right?
Hi,
Ive been having problems while charging my phone. Usually i charge my phone from 11 pm to 7 am and sometimes when i wake up in the morning the battery light is green and it reads as 100% battery charge but the moment i disconnect the wire it instantly drops to 30-50%. Is anyone else having these issues?
Are you stock?
I have not had this problem and charge pretty much same as you. I am stock rooted with a few apps disabled and only had the phone since October.
Try this app
Also I'm pretty sure you shouldn't let it charge for so long, it will hinder you battery life in the long run. At least that's what I have read.
lt1camaro said:
Hi,
Ive been having problems while charging my phone. Usually i charge my phone from 11 pm to 7 am and sometimes when i wake up in the morning the battery light is green and it reads as 100% battery charge but the moment i disconnect the wire it instantly drops to 30-50%. Is anyone else having these issues?
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Option 1 : Clear battery stats
Option 2 : Get a new battery and 24 hour charge
Option 3 : Let the battery DIE, drop it in the freezer for a few hours, then 12 - 24 hour charge it again. Doing this though MAY (not always does) cause the water indicator to trip. Easiest solution I found for that was I vacuum sealed my battery THEN dropped it in the freezer. No air, no moisture, no trip.
kirkgbr said:
Are you stock?
I have not had this problem and charge pretty much same as you. I am stock rooted with a few apps disabled and only had the phone since October.
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Yes i am running stock
jgaf said:
Try this app
Also I'm pretty sure you shouldn't let it charge for so long, it will hinder you battery life in the long run. At least that's what I have read.
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I would also recommend trying this app. I tried it out a few days ago and it does seem to help out quite a bit.
I find mine drops instantly to 99%. Even sometimes when I'm at 74% and if I don't use it at all, I will check back and it goes up to 78% :-/
My phone just started to do this about a week ago.
I tried reflashing, wiping cache/data, factory reset- nothing.
Whenever I charge, it will either charge significantly slow, or say charging but the percentage just goes down as if it wasn't even charging in the first place.
So I powered off for the entire night, (8-9 hours) and it will say fully charged. And I keep it connected to the charger but when I take a look at the phone again about 15 min later it reads 83% battery and charging.
I was really annoyed so I just left my phone on the charger again while I took a power nap (1-2 Hours) and after that I take a look and now it reads 68%.
The other day I saw it was fully charged so I took it off the charger and went on with my day. After, not even about 8 hours, it was already 10%.
It's like it only charges normally when the phone is shut off. Do I just need to replace the battery? Or is it something with the phone that drains the battery so quickly? I've already ordered a replacement extended battery off of Amazon just in case.
Most likely your battery. Go into battery stats and see whats apps are having high usage. Or download Gsam.
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Im pretty sure its the battery now, the stats are normal and it doesn't seem like one process is hogging all the cpu. Can't wait for my extended battery next week, i cant last a week more with this annoying battery issue. Any suggestions for now?
arthurgreeeen said:
Im pretty sure its the battery now, the stats are normal and it doesn't seem like one process is hogging all the cpu. Can't wait for my extended battery next week, i cant last a week more with this annoying battery issue. Any suggestions for now?
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Keep it off unless you really need it? Also are u rooted or on stock?
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I recently bought a note 3 and I wanted to ask is it okay if I put it into overnight charge even if the battery is 60-70% ?
Does putting it on a charger over long period of times affect the battery life?
battery has protective circuit that will cut off the current when fully charged, since Li-ion batts are very sensitive to overcharging and discharging bellow spec and will get damaged quickly if done so. However, since there is always some possibility of malfunction I would not leave the batt. at home on the charger and left for 2 weeks vacation, but overnight should be fine, probably many people do so.
pete4k said:
battery has protective circuit that will cut off the current when fully charged, since Li-ion batts are very sensitive to overcharging and discharging bellow spec and will get damaged quickly if done so. However, since there is always some possibility of malfunction I would not leave the batt. at home on the charger and left for 2 weeks vacation, but overnight should be fine, probably many people do so.
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Thank you Pete for such an elaborate reply. In your opinion would it affect the battery if I put the phone over night every night for, let's say, 3-4 months?
I charge nightly so that when I wake up the phone is fully charged. Seriously, if the battery starts to wear out you can simply replace it. It is removable. Not a big deal.
I leave it charging every night
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Buy an extra battery and swap out when it gets down to 15%. Saves wear and tear on the charging port and keeps away extraneous heat from having the phone itself charging the battery.
muz_grt said:
I recently bought a note 3 and I wanted to ask is it okay if I put it into overnight charge even if the battery is 60-70% ?
Does putting it on a charger over long period of times affect the battery life?
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Imho even if you would charge overnight you wont notice any difference untill your phone is EOL. Even if you would treat your liion battery like a princess it would still die in ~5 years (please correct me if im wrong).
Even though this is only my personal experience and your mileage may differ, but im currently using a HTC HD2 which is still going strong on its first battery. I plug it in almost every night before i go to bed.
Edit: and I must add that really your phone is designed to be used like this. If you only have 70% left and you really need that extra juice the next (few) day(s) because you wont have a charger with you, just plug it in as you go to bed.
If you really go out of your way to rape your battery every day, just buy a new one when its EOL, if you haven't gotten a new device already.
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My Note 4 is 14mo old and for the last couple months it just shuts off on me even though I have plenty of power left.
I am a light user and usually have enough power for all day use. I rarely use my phone down past 10-15%. I always put my phone on the charger when I go to bed at night when I have somewhere around 20% charge left. If I notice that I might not have enough power to get me through the day I'll put it on the charger somewhere between 30 and 40%.
Lately, like tonight I got a low battery warning at 30% power while I was on the phone. Not even two minutes later it shuts off. When I turn it back on it starts to boot up but then shuts off again. When I put it on the charger it was completely dead. This only happens 3 or 4 times a month but it's annoying because often it happens at the most inconvenient time.
I've also had it shut off and then when I put it on the charger it starts charging at 28% power.
Please let me know what may be going on here and a solution...
Thanks...
tomfrazier said:
My Note 4 is 14mo old and for the last couple months it just shuts off on me even though I have plenty of power left.
I am a light user and usually have enough power for all day use. I rarely use my phone down past 10-15%. I always put my phone on the charger when I go to bed at night when I have somewhere around 20% charge left. If I notice that I might not have enough power to get me through the day I'll put it on the charger somewhere between 30 and 40%.
Lately, like tonight I got a low battery warning at 30% power while I was on the phone. Not even two minutes later it shuts off. When I turn it back on it starts to boot up but then shuts off again. When I put it on the charger it was completely dead. This only happens 3 or 4 times a month but it's annoying because often it happens at the most inconvenient time.
I've also had it shut off and then when I put it on the charger it starts charging at 28% power.
Please let me know what may be going on here and a solution...
Thanks...
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I had the exact same issue. I had 2 different batteries shutting off at 20-30%!.... Replacing the battery to a brand new one simply fixed it!.... if you are going to order one online try to avoid unknown brands . Also, pay attention there are some fake Samsung batteries claiming to be authentic.
Also if you still have warranty, contact Samsung and they should send you a new one. That's what i also did.
So you think its the battery and not software related? I was thinking software issue because I don't abuse my battery by running it dead and it's an intermittent problem.
I know that the life cycle of Li-ion is greatly reduced by repeated draining to below 10% (my kid's phones suffer from that. Seems like they can't make a battery last more than 6mo) but I've never had a phone battery go bad on any of MY phones including my old Note 2 even after two years. Maybe I just have a bad battery?
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So you think its the battery and not software related? I was thinking software issue because I don't abuse my battery by running it dead and it's an intermittent problem.
I know that the life cycle of Li-ion is greatly reduced by repeated draining to below 10% (my kid's phones suffer from that. Seems like they can't make a battery last more than 6mo) but I've never had a phone battery go bad on any of MY phones including my old Note 2 even after two years. Maybe I just have a bad battery?
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Doesn't matter whether you abuse the battery or not. Some batteries just go bad faster than others. I also think it's your battery.
A factory reset without restoring apps will rule out a software issue though, but since we can't root, it likely isn't anything messing with your battery percent unless it's just an app draining your battery. But even if it were the latter, your battery wouldn't die then start charging at 28%.
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Pretty sure this is an actual built in feature. Mines always died at ~20% (since the 5.1.1 update) and once plugged into a charger and rebooted all my running apps and clipboard info is still running as if the phone never died.
My battery is brand new (from warranty replacement) and it still does this so this is why I think it's a "feature" to keep you from losing data in the event of a low battery event. Just my opinion.
It's not a feature. Mine goes all the way to 0% before it dies. I once read to take out the battery, hold the power button for 30 seconds (while the battery is out), then put it back in and see if it helps. This supposedly gets rid of any residual power storage. I don't know if this is a placebo affect by after I did that, my battery now goes all the way to 0 before dieing.
jack man said:
It's not a feature. Mine goes all the way to 0% before it dies. I once read to take out the battery, hold the power button for 30 seconds (while the battery is out), then put it back in and see if it helps. This supposedly gets rid of any residual power storage. I don't know if this is a placebo affect by after I did that, my battery now goes all the way to 0 before dieing.
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Not exactly a placebo, but not sure if it truly helps. Doing this would clear all electricity stored in any capacitors in the phone. I'm just not sure how this helps.
And my battery goes all the way down to 0% too. It's not normal for the phone to due at any other % (except maybe 1%).
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