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Will there be custom roms based off of the OTA gingerbread update?

I was just curious. I kind of don't want to go back to stock ROM because its backed up on my computer. Also, it wad becoming unstable so now I'm on Virtuous. I rather get a ROM thats based off that release because of the TV out cable. I hope there will be
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Yes. There will be at least one rooted stock ROM. However, most other ROMs will be customized ROMs that utilize the new Gingerbread kernel.

I'd like to point out the kernel source may be for a kernel that only works with the OTA. That's how its been with the Tbolt. Not so bad because it would spawn a whole new generation of much improved gingerbread ROMs.

Thats all I wanted to know seeing how they got gingerbread roms from devices like the HTC Sensation, I don't think it'll take that long to get a custom ROM cooked up haha! As long as there will be roms based off it, I'll be happy hopefully they'll have custom themes
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rosedillinger said:
I was just curious. I kind of don't want to go back to stock ROM because its backed up on my computer. Also, it wad becoming unstable so now I'm on Virtuous. I rather get a ROM thats based off that release because of the TV out cable. I hope there will be
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Nope, absolutely no developer will create a custom rom from this new official rom that's coming out. They haven't done it in the past, why would they start making new custom roms based off of official OTA roms?

Being on a custom rom rooted will we be able to update to stock?
Or will something go dearly wrong if we try?
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okay, so, for us rom users who don't want to go back to stock.
do we have to flash stock back onto the device?, to get the update? or just wait for a custom kernal
and how does one flash the radio without bricking the phone?

gilliduck said:
Nope, absolutely no developer will create a custom rom from this new official rom that's coming out. They haven't done it in the past, why would they start making new custom roms based off of official OTA roms?
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devs play with the source code kernal and work from there.

You will lose root if you update to stock.

Kiboe said:
okay, so, for us rom users who don't want to go back to stock.
do we have to flash stock back onto the device?, to get the update? or just wait for a custom kernal
and how does one flash the radio without bricking the phone?
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Someone will release a rooted version of the ROM which you can use, or just wait for your developer to update their ROM.

No. That update won't be supported. Everyones gonna stop devving the day before its released. Just kidding lol.
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I'll wait for a rooted version to release. But if custom roms like Virtuous, Skyraider, or Incrom update, I'll do that
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I'm personally going to wait until there is a root method. I'll unroot my stock froyo. update. root the update, adb shell and remove the vzw crap and install whatever new kernel has been created from the source code. best way to ensure everything works 100%

rosedillinger said:
I'll wait for a rooted version to release. But if custom roms like Virtuous, Skyraider, or Incrom update, I'll do that
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skyraider won't see the update, i doubt it, the dev of that rom already moved on to the t-bolt.

zoomy942 said:
I'm personally going to wait until there is a root method. I'll unroot my stock froyo. update. root the update, adb shell and remove the vzw crap and install whatever new kernel has been created from the source code. best way to ensure everything works 100%
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if you can root the update, no one knows for sure if unrevoked or any method will work, let us know if it does or not!

I'm on 2.2 rooted using unrevoked3 - such a easy process. From what I have been reading, it's not as simple in reverse. I really want 2.3 for the VoIP capabilities and improved keyboard but I'm afraid to brick my phone unrooting it. Also, I live off of WiFi tether for root users and I don't know how long I could wait for another unrevoked or similar to give root on 2.3 so that I can reinstall the app.
So I'm assuming I should just wait for a custom ROM like most everyone else. Is it hard to flash a custom ROM? More or less difficult than the painless 1-click root?
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Probably not quite as painless as unrevoked, but certainly not difficult either. Rom manager actually makes rom flashing pretty simple but seems buggy for a lot of people. I'd wait for the rooted OTA to be posted and flash that. Might want to do a little reading on flashing roms and root in general, there are some good stickies in the incredible forums.

Can I use the root method even on a custom sense ROM?
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rosedillinger said:
Can I use the root method even on a custom sense ROM?
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I'm not wanting to insult you, honestly, but that question reflects a deep lack of knowledge. But, you're at XDA and that's the best place to fix that!
I'll answer your question....
Nobody could probably tell you because nobody has ever tried rooting a custom ROM before.
That said, do some searching and some reading and get familiar with what this community is all about. You will be amazed.

So I flashed the 2.3.4 GB Rom posted by JoelZ yesterday. Some stuff looks diferent but not a whole lot. Was I wrong to expect the newer style keyboard, lockscreen and notification bar? Nevertheless, it boots wicked quick and feels faster.
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[Q] if i root my htc desire z and flash custom rom,can i still get ota update?

well i was planning to root my desire z for this Virtuous Affinity v1.48.0 rom,looks cool =D.But if the future ota come out,can i just flash the ota rom (OTA_Vision_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.42.405.2-1.82.405.1_R_release_199251k3r3wb3a4l4wniec) to remove root and receive future ota updates?i know its stupid question..but im puzzled can someone tell me how to get official update if i have gotten root and custom rom? thanks

Steven How said:
well i was planning to root my desire z for this Virtuous Affinity v1.48.0 rom,looks cool =D.But if the future ota come out,can i just flash the ota rom (OTA_Vision_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.42.405.2-1.82.405.1_R_release_199251k3r3wb3a4l4wniec) to remove root and receive future ota updates?i know its stupid question..but im puzzled can someone tell me how to get official update if i have gotten root and custom rom? thanks
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If you're running a custom ROM you won't receive the OTA notification but you could always just download it manually.
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OriginalGabriel said:
If you're running a custom ROM you won't receive the OTA notification but you could always just download it manually.
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The ROM needs to have the updater apk stripped out for it not to work afaik?

OriginalGabriel said:
If you're running a custom ROM you won't receive the OTA notification but you could always just download it manually.
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Means if I'm using affinity I wont receive ota update,I know. What I means was can I just flash that official Rom with clockwork mod?after flashing back to official Rom I know I lost root and s on back. So will it receive ota notification if I flash the official Rom? I'm abit confuse >< srry I'm bad in this...

it´s not that easy to return to stock... the best thing you can do is follow the wiki for rooting. the wiki also descripes a way to return to stock (means reinstall official recovery, s-on and remove superCID)
here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
and if you are waiting for a update to 4.0 ICS you better stay rooted and use customs roms
EDIT: in my country updates are recieved through carrier, so i think it´s important to have the original carrier firmware and CID to recieve ota updates

hoffmas said:
it´s not that easy to return to stock... the best thing you can do is follow the wiki for rooting. the wiki also descripes a way to return to stock (means reinstall official recovery, s-on and remove superCID)
here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
and if you are waiting for a update to 4.0 ICS you better stay rooted and use customs roms
EDIT: in my country updates are recieved through carrier, so i think it´s important to have the original carrier firmware and CID to recieve ota updates
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Thx a lot hoffmas!=) well,how can you be so sure desire z would get ics? And if I flash virtuous affinity v1.4.6,then I want to update it to version 1.4.8. Do I have to factory reset and wipe everything in order to update to v1.4.8? I can use the virtuous unity v9 kernel right?? I know its stupid question..hope someone can help me with it =/

the desire z will probably get a update to ics and if so you will see a thread on xda with the stock rom to flash without loosing root but for sure cyanogen is going to be faster
wiping is always a good idea. best thing is to use superwipe and the wipe options in the recovery (system/data/cache)
here is a link for the superwipe (flash it through recovery):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044992
you can use unity v9 (flash it after first time booting), but unity v10 kernel is included in virtuous affinity 1.48
pls use the thanks button if my posting helped you

hoffmas said:
the desire z will probably get a update to ics and if so you will see a thread on xda with the stock rom to flash without loosing root but for sure cyanogen is going to be faster
wiping is always a good idea. best thing is to use superwipe and the wipe options in the recovery (system/data/cache)
here is a link for the superwipe (flash it through recovery):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044992
you can use unity v9 (flash it after first time booting), but unity v10 kernel is included in virtuous affinity 1.48
pls use the thanks button if my posting helped you
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Thx, but the unroot part is so complicated,instead of using that wiki, can I use this guide?
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-unroot-t-mobile-g2-htc-desire-z-complete-guide/

Sure there are different ways to return to stock, but i only post links to guides i used myself (so i know they work)
So maybe someone else knows, if the guide you posted works...
Actually the wiki looks complicated, but it isn't. It's a step by step guide and what is most important: it is a safe way
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About the super wipe,I should flash those 3 zip once I have root on stock rom?

No, you have to choose one .zip and flash it through recovery after you rooted an installed a custom recovery....
So if you want to install virtuous affinity use superwipe before flashing affinity (after using superwipe you have to install a new rom, because the old one is gone)
You are sure you know what you are doing? Do some researching before you start to root your device... Rooting means you can brick your phone.
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hoffmas said:
Sure there are different ways to return to stock, but i only post links to guides i used myself (so i know they work)
So maybe someone else knows, if the guide you posted works...
Actually the wiki looks complicated, but it isn't. It's a step by step guide and what is most important: it is a safe way
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169004 can i just flash the 1st ota rom (only root and busybox added)? then check for future ota updates?

i don´t think you will recieve future ota updates using this rom... but roms like that one are the reason for me to say, that there is no point once you are rooted to wait for ota updates
official updates do come from your carrier and so its important to have the original CID and carrier firmware, as i mentioned already.
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I know wat do know what root means,I rooted wildfire and flash custom Rom before..but I don't plan to reverse back to stock since I already know they will be no future update..but for my desire z..is just that I'm impatient of waiting the ota...so maybe have a try on affinity,but I can't flash the official ota Rom (2.3.3 and sense 2.1) to return everything stock right? I know..kinda dumb of me,forgive me on my stupidity >~<

no i don´t think so... but maybe i am wrong. As i returned to stock for warranty, i did everything as written in the wiki guide and because i didn´t find the original vodafone firmware i did not recieve ota updates (even with original recovery, simlock and CID restore)
but i´m not a dev... maybe i´m completly wrong

If I'm grasping this correctly, you are worried that you won't receive OTA after rooting and flashing? I'm curious as to what OTA you are waiting for and what it has that other ROMs don't? (Honest question, I think the Z's had a few more updates than G2)
Not knowing aside, i'd say root it, flash what you want, and only return to stock if needed for warranty. Chances are you're going to find more support from the community here than with the manufacturer.
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biohazrd51 said:
If I'm grasping this correctly, you are worried that you won't receive OTA after rooting and flashing? I'm curious as to what OTA you are waiting for and what it has that other ROMs don't? (Honest question, I think the Z's had a few more updates than G2)
Not knowing aside, i'd say root it, flash what you want, and only return to stock if needed for warranty. Chances are you're going to find more support from the community here than with the manufacturer.
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Exactly! Well,wat I'm worrying was after I root and flashed then, the official ota (maybe sense 3.0) roll out then I will be stuck at root =/ I knw root I can do a lot of stuff..but idk y my mind just like stock =/ if the sense 3.0 of the future update can have horizontal home screen I will get it..

I don't know truthfully. My guess is that any update that WOULD come out would then immediately be ripped apart by the community and made better anyways. There are already quite a few ROMs with Sense 2.1/3.0 features, 3.5, etc, and ports from other phones that support landscape mode (a mt4g ROM if I recall).
You can always return to stock, though I don't think you'd ever want to. ;-)
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I don't know truthfully. My guess is that any update that WOULD come out would then immediately be ripped apart by the community and made better anyways. There are already quite a few ROMs with Sense 2.1/3.0 features, 3.5, etc, and ports from other phones that support landscape mode (a mt4g ROM if I recall).
You can always return to stock, though I don't think you'd ever want to. ;-)
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Desire z support my touch 4G Rom? But if my stock Rom is rooted,I caIn't receive ota right?
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I mean I can't receive ota right?
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Simple instructions requested!

Hello,
I'm getting this device next week and I'll be unlocking the bootloader straight away but the amount of instructions for flashing ROMs is baffling me. In the past It's been a process of install custom recovery then flashing a ROM (full wipe) reboot and job done but there's plenty more steps for this device so can anyone break it down for me because I'm pretty confused especially when it comes to rebooting into another menu to flash a boot.img or something.
Also, I'm thinking of sticking on a Stock Sense (but with bloatware removed and rooted) just to test Sense out before I move back to my comfort zone of CM9/CM10 so how would I go about this? Is there any bloatware free pre-rooted fully working stock Sense roms available?
Finally, there's a load of information about kernels which I'm new to due to never having to worry about flashing them in the past. I'd be happy with sticking to one single kernel (So I don't have to mess about with them every time I flash a new ROM- if that's possible?) so which one is the best for general daily usage, and has over-clocking enabled.
Thanks.

There are not additional steps to flash for this device.in fact it is easy. When I was new here at XDA I also was too confused. Flashing a kernel seemed impossible to me.
But I began to read the internet and the forums extensively and slowly learned.
Try ckpv5's my sense v rc2.0 very smooth pre-rooted rom.u can always uninstall the bloatware using Titanium Backup.
Unfortunately as our device is s-on u will have to flash the kernels every time u change a rom unless both of them need the same kernel.
The provision rom feels great for everyday use.use the latest Hellboy kernel that can be OCd plus added KSM support.
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mihirengg19 said:
Unfortunately as our device is s-on u will have to flash the kernels every time u change a rom unless both of them need the same kernel.
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This and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34236649
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Thanks for the replies.
I was also wondering if I'm right in thinking this is the right order (For rooting my device via the Toolkit);
Unlock Bootloader
Flash Recovery
Do a Nandroid just in-case anything buggers up in the future.
Flash a Sense-based Kernel (So I can overclock etc otherwise I could completely skip this step I guess)
Click the 'PermRoot' extra in Toolkit.
Job done.
Does that sound about right? I think I'll just stick with Stock Sense for the first few weeks or so and if I get sick of it I'll move to a custom. I'd be happy with a Rooted stock device though just to get rid of the bloatware and have access to Adaway & Titanium Backup.
Thank you.

Yes that order sounds right but if you dont want custom right now and want to remain stock,no need to flash any kernel!just remove the kernel step from the order
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But I'd need to flash a new kernel in order to over clock (unless the stock kernel is overclockable) or is the devices performance and battery fine with stock levels/governor?
Thanks for the reply
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Stock kernel is not OCable.tell u what,since u want to remain on stock now,root it and remain on stock for now.then after u get comfy after rooting it and get settled,flash a JB rom and a custom kernel.stock is always laggy.
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One does not simply root his HOV and remains on stock!!!

HE WANTS TO STAY ON STOCK FOR THE FIRST FEW WEEKS!
Secondly, i am saying that since he is a bit confused about the toolkit and kernels and all,he should flash kernels later.thats a bit advanced.he will root it and then may learn a bit more and then experiment with kernels and stuff.
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I'm not a complete noob when it comes to flashing ROMs etc seeing as though I've tinkered around with my last 2 devices. Its just the process seems a bit of a pain (The order and rebooting into different menus to flash kernels etc) so I'd rather read into it and get comfortable with the process. So I'd like to just root it so I can uninstall any bloatware and third party apps I can reinstall from the Play Store, I'd also like to add Adblock (A big reason I root my phones). I'll be flashing a ROM as soon as I find a fully working (100%) ROM (any recommendations and a simple step by step guide to install would be amazing too)
Thanks
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ok Curtis i will PM u the instructions.and also keep referring the link that soham_sss provided above and keep reading the forums here
i was not mocking you in the above post Curtis.i said that to explain my point to 1ceb0x .sorry if you felt i was making fun of you

I've bookmarked the link and thank you. Its appreciated!
It's fine man, I wasn't offended/insulted!
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I've bookmarked the link and thank you. Its appreciated!
It's fine man, I wasn't offended/insulted!
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M glad my thread is use full
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[Q] My wife's One V keeps freezing UP

Hi my wife has a One V with stock everything. It keeps freezing up and takes up to 1 minute just to open a new text message.
The phone has never been rooted or modified in any way.
I tried rebooting it, doesn't change anything. She does not have many apps installed at all from the market, maybe 1 or 2.
The way I fixed it last time was back up all of her sms and call log and setting and I did a factory reset.
This solved the problem but the phone was slowing getting worse and worse and now it is almost impossible to use it.
Is this a know issue? Is there an easy fix for it? Or maybe the only option is to root and install a custom rom for her.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Thanks

I do indeed give you the advice to install a custom rom. This is a known issue with the stock rom.
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Why do u think custom roms are made?
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Why do u think custom roms are made?
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lars1216 said:
I do indeed give you the advice to install a custom rom. This is a known issue with the stock rom.
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Great I had a feeling it was ROM related. Since I have no experience with One V, can anyone suggest a good how to guide to unlocking boot loader, and rooting, and installing CWMR on this phone. Every device is different so it is like leaning all over again for each phone.
oh yeah any rom suggestions? Not sure if I should give her a stock based sense rom or AOSP / CM. Personally I love AOSP Jelly Bean 4.2 on my S2 because I hate Samsung bloat on my phone.
thanks alot.

Personally I would recommend 4.1 or 4.2 depends if she needs the functions that are still missing from 4.2 (biggest one being camera I think) if she wants sense I recommend suprimo. As for a guide, there are some as a sticky in one of the sub forums (I think their in general)
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I suggest you look for provision or pacman 19.3 in cdma (from what I can assume your CDMA) they have 5mp camera which is what the stock camera has. Note: the difference for flashing between a Samsung s2 and our device is we have to take the boot.img from the ROM.zip we DL and flash it in fast boot (thing before you enter recovery) after we flash the .zip in recovery
I recommend twrp recovery also because i find it easier to navigate
ONE MORE THING:
Power + down vol to get to fast boot and tell us what radio you have.
IF it ends in .0928 your going to get boot loops if you flash a JB ROM simple fix I'll tell you if it does because it is a complex process.
However if our radio ends in anything else you should be fine (htc had an ota that upgraded radio and it fked things up).
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lars1216 said:
I do indeed give you the advice to install a custom rom. This is a known issue with the stock rom.
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I've never been very tech-y with this stuff, and now I'm having problems with mine. I don't understand the ROMs or anything. I don't want to void the warranty or anything.

Well assuming the rules here. You can't install a rom here. Because for that you have to unlock the bootloader and doing that voids the warranty.
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Flashing custom ROM is the only solution...
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A little lost with the guides

Recently, mi girlfriend get the T mobile G2, and she OTA update to GB, I was reading the guides, but, there is a lot of guides and i dont know wich is the best for my situation.
So, someone can tell me wich guide to use? She want custom rom, or root at least. But, i am lost with the guides.
Thanks for your time

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Recently, mi girlfriend get the T mobile G2, and she OTA update to GB, I was reading the guides, but, there is a lot of guides and i dont know wich is the best for my situation.
So, someone can tell me wich guide to use? She want custom rom, or root at least. But, i am lost with the guides.
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Here you go.

Thanks, i almost use the app root unlock, but that guide is the safest for a g2 that was upgrade with ota right? When i finish the step 2 and have the recovery installed, i can uset that cwm with othe rom?
And another question, i know the partitions from the g2 is different from desire z, when i flash a rom, that doesnt matter?
Thanks for your help ( i have been use samsung, so i am little lost with htc)
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Follow the guide kinked to you all the way until you are running cm7, play with it a bit then decide if you want to upgrade or change you recovery, radio and hboot.
All of which are easy enough to do, the recovery you will have after following this guide is sub par so you may find others better, the radio may not be best for you but know one will know which is as it differs for everyone, and the dzhboot has a larger system partition and will allow you to flash sense ROMs, if that's what your into than change to that. But first just follow all steps to downgrade and root and run cm7 a bit, then go back and make changes to firmware
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Allright, thanks, i will do that first, if i have any question i will ask again, but first i will do that

Allright, everything went perfect (a little scared because a time ago i bricked a G1). Now the G2 is in cm7.2
And now? i need the desire z hboot to flash JB roms? or only for sense? and i need to update the recovery? i want at least ICS but i dont know if it will be necessary the desire z hboot and dont know if it safe

I'm glad you got it handled! Only need the dz hboot for sense ROMs, some ICS and up can be sense though, its easy enough to change as is the recovery and radio, all of which is safest to do in fastboot, here's a little guide I made on just that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27796375
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It seem more easy than the other steps so, if i install the desire z hboot, i can use it for everything, i mean, with g2 hboot i cant use some roms, and with desirez hboot i can use all rom, so i can have all the time the desire z hboot right? and personally, what recovery is best for you? in Inspire 4G i used the Ext4, but dont know if stay with that version of CWM or flash Ext4.
And the radio, isnt necessary to change when i change the hboot right? because the actual radio is working very good
And THanks for your time

Yep with the dz hboot you can flash any ROM for the vision, but you sacrifice a bit internal memory for it, no big deal though. As for recoveries I really recommend 4ext, I've used many different recoveries in android and have never seen a better one. And no you don't need to change radio, only change it when you data/reception seems like it could be improved. Well with that also battery life, but if it ain't broke don't fix it!
Happy flashing!
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Allright, thanks if my girlfriend has problems with reception i will flash radio, but for now, is perfect. I will do this in the morning, i will download some roms and see whats fit better thank you so much.

I just want to say, thanks for all, i did it this week because my girlfriend was out.The phone is running now the .19 radio, the ext4 recovery and 1 build of Cm9. THanks for your help