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A Problem with MMS

Hey XDA, I've had the nexus now for probably 2 months and I love it, I'm running aokp m4 and Franco's m2. I haven't had and problems except for one. The problem is.. I can't send mms messages when wifi is enabled if I go out and I'm just on the carriers network it sends fine but when I'm at home with wifi as the main access point and the carriers network in the background I can send texts but cannot get or send mms
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Any help on this?
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thats wierd i noticed the same thing too yesterday, i am on AOKP b31
data and wifi and cell all work fine. when i want to send a mms it tells me that it isnt activated in my network!?!?!

Yeah its so weird, just to get this straight , wifi and the network are enabled at the same time so whenever I have to send a pic or something I have to disable wofi
. Shouldn't the carrier run in the background for things like mms and just take over?
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T-mobile can't receive or send mms on WiFi

Why can't I receive or send mms when WiFi is connected. I didn't have this issue on sprint. It sucks cause I have to turn off WiFi and then it has to connect to edge then eventually on 4g before i can get or send my mms quicker. I have to use WiFi a lot on this device so I don't go over my cap so I need to have WiFi on at home and work. Very frustrating.
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This happens on and off on my Amaze. I just think it doesnt work that well in general with tmo

My wife can't download mms on WiFi with at&t

I have the same problem with Verizon.

MMS are the texts with data right? Yeah I noticed I can't send with just wifi.
Normal text are fine.
AT&T btw for the XDA app users.
Edit: I noticed you said at all when I reread it. I can send em fine with wifi enabled but I have to have mobile network enabled as well.

Maybe this is more common than i thought.

MultiMediaMessages needs your data access to send. WiFi will not work.

Happened on my cousin's AT&T galaxy s ii when he didn't enable data
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babymatteo said:
MultiMediaMessages needs your data access to send. WiFi will not work.
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You youre right that it does need data but I think what its supposed to do is switch to mobile network real quick and send/receive then revert back to wifi. The issue is its not doing this on my Tmobile s3.
Edit: Ran a few more test. Had my gf send me 2 mms while I was on wifi and I was able to recieve 1. But other I couldnt receive. It may have something to do with my data connection as I get 50% edge. I have a feeling that when its on edge while wifi is on that it cant DL the mms but on 4g while wifi is on it will work. I need to run a test outdoor where I get full 4g but still connect to wifi.

Same issue here, on simple mobile, I will assume is GS3 MMS bug and when you do receive MMS, it's pretty small

Just use gmail.
People really need to start using email in lieu of mms, the pictures don't get distorted, it sends/receives faster, handles much larger files
I don't know why people even use mms anymore. Everything should be done in email.

ingenious247 said:
Just use gmail.
People really need to start using email in lieu of mms, the pictures don't get distorted, it sends/receives faster, handles much larger files
I don't know why people even use mms anymore. Everything should be done in email.
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Life is about choices, you like email and others prefer MMS, we are using GS3 & others prefer what they like. Email, MMS, WhatsApp, ChatOn etc is matter of preference
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wcoast said:
Life is about choices, you like email and others prefer MMS, we are using GS3 & others prefer what they like. Email, MMS, WhatsApp, ChatOn etc is matter of preference
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Yes, you're right. Life is about choices.
Just like people can "choose" to drive 3,000 miles instead of taking a flight. Or they can "choose" to ship via snail mail instead of UPS.
Doesn't mean their choices and/or preferences aren't ineffective or moronic, or that people want to hear them whine about the "choices" they make.
Aside from that, it doesn't look like it's a "choice" on Wifi. So you can choose to send an email and be done with it, or choose to whine and stomp your feet on xda which has virtually no effect on the situation other than rounding up other whiners.
It's like people complaining about using Blu-Ray and complaining they can't stream VHS to their phone

You can send and receive mms on wifi. I have done it. No data.
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jjlean said:
You can send and receive mms on wifi. I have done it. No data.
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I can send and receive too over Wi-Fi.

jjlean said:
You can send and receive mms on wifi. I have done it. No data.
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The_Biz said:
I can send and receive too over Wi-Fi.
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Are there setting/tweak that allows you guy to be able to send and receive mms while on Wi-Fi? Nobody that u know have theirs working, we all have to turn off WiFi to send/receive mms
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wcoast said:
Are there setting/tweak that allows you guy to be able to send and receive mms while on Wi-Fi? Nobody that u know have theirs working, we all have to turn off WiFi to send/receive mms
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Nope. Stock rooted. I will tell you that there are times when it won't send our receive mms or sms, but if I restart it works again. It never works 100%.
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jjlean said:
Nope. Stock rooted. I will tell you that there are times when it won't send our receive mms or sms, but if I restart it works again. It never works 100%.
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I'm on custom Rom and never had luck sending/receiving mms while on WiFi
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wcoast said:
Are there setting/tweak that allows you guy to be able to send and receive mms while on Wi-Fi? Nobody that u know have theirs working, we all have to turn off WiFi to send/receive mms
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Stock no root.

Does it make a difference if you guys enable wifi calling?
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WiFi SMS &/or MMS Apps

I'm interested in people with direct experience using apps on the N7 that enable text messaging over a WiFi connection. I'm interested in ones that truly allow you to send & receive messages to/from cell phones - not ones dependant upon email (as I believe gtalk is).
PS - The UI has to be easy to use, as this is getting setup on an N7 for my Father-in-Law - and he's 62.
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DrgnRebrn said:
I'm interested in people with direct experience using apps on the N7 that enable text messaging over a WiFi connection. I'm interested in ones that truly allow you to send & receive messages to/from cell phones - not ones dependant upon email (as I believe gtalk is).
PS - The UI has to be easy to use, as this is getting setup on an N7 for my Father-in-Law - and he's 62.
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Only app I use is tablet talk. You can connect via WiFi or Bluetooth. It can send and receive MMS also. It is the best app I have used. I use it daily. It is $2.99 I believe but well worth the price.
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There are none. They all need your phone near you.
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Sveke said:
There are none. They all need your phone near you.
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Really? I've always thought there were apps available that allowed true WiFi messaging. Some of the ones I've been looking at are:
HeyWire
textPlus
Talkatone
In the reading I've done so far, these all seem to be apps that allow one to do what I'm aiming for. I started this topic thread to see if anyone on the N7 has either direct experience with any of these, or any other apps that are similar in function/purpose.
You're saying that even these require a phone to be tethered through WiFi, or BT though?
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Sveke said:
There are none. They all need your phone near you.
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This is not true. CLOUD SMS is an app that does not require blue tooth, or for the phone and tablet to be connected to the same Wifi. It is simple to use, your phone can be on data, or wifi(doesn't have to be same location), and you can send and receive from phone or tab. It cost 99 cents in the play store. I've followed it through the beta process here on xda and I would highly recommend it.
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Saenzscene said:
Only app I use is tablet talk. You can connect via WiFi or Bluetooth. It can send and receive MMS also. It is the best app I have used. I use it daily. It is $2.99 I believe but well worth the price.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I looked this app up and read about it. This app looks like it does require a tethered phone. Is that true in your experience with it, or is there a way to use it independently of a phone?
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Ryano89 said:
This is not true. CLOUD SMS is an app that does not require blue tooth, or for the phone and tablet to be connected to the same Wifi. It is simple to use, your phone can be on data, or wifi(doesn't have to be same location), and you can send and receive from phone or tab. It cost 99 cents in the play store. I've followed it through the beta process here on xda and I would highly recommend it.
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You have no clue what you're talking about, it's the exact same as tablet talk which i use.
So OP, don't get all excited.
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I use tablet talk/desk SMS I never keep my phone on Wi-Fi or Bluetooth connection and it works just fine
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DrgnRebrn said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I looked this app up and read about it. This app looks like it does require a tethered phone. Is that true in your experience with it, or is there a way to use it independently of a phone?
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I misunderstood your request. I apologize. Yeah it requires both phone and tablet to be on the same WiFi network in order to use for SMS/MMS.
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rcarnes911 said:
I use tablet talk/desk SMS I never keep my phone on Wi-Fi or Bluetooth connection and it works just fine
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The OP is talking about texting from a tablet over WiFi with no phone at all.
Can't be done, texts are sent over mobile data and not WiFi.
Google voice may be able to do it, but not sure.
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Sveke said:
The OP is talking about texting from a tablet over WiFi with no phone at all.
Can't be done, texts are sent over mobile data and not WiFi.
Google voice may be able to do it, but not sure.
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Google Voice is an interesting angle to try. I wonder if it'd be over his head though. Thanks for that suggestion, I'll look into that one and see what it's capable of.
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Sveke said:
You have no clue what you're talking about, it's the exact same as tablet talk which i use.
So OP, don't get all excited.
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Doesn't tablet talk require that you be on the same wifi with both the phone and tablet, or be connected by bluetooth? Cloud SMS does not require either of these, my phone can be at home and my tablet can be at work connected to wifi, this is a fact, I use it every day. If I'm wrong about Tablet Talk requirements(haven't used it several months) then I apologize. I may have misunderstood the question, but the information I provided, in response to your comment that the phone and tablet have to be near each other, was correct. But your "tone" is both unnecessary and not appreciated. I was just trying to provide info on an app that I am familiar with. I'm not sure what your problem is.
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I use Verizon messages on mine. It is Dependant on having a Verizon smartphone and being on the same wifi, but works like a charm for me. Let's you send and receive SMS amend MMS and pretty much anything your phone can do and doesn't require a separate plan for the tablet
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Mighty Text let's you send texts through your phone using your pc. I am using the beta for nexus 7, so when I get a text on my Optimus G, I get a notification on my Nexus 7 and have the ability to respond to the text using the tablet, and no need to use the telephone. As far as the texter goes, they think you are texting from your phone. Even better, anything you do on the tablet shows up in your telephone's text app. Mighty Text also allows you to keep a history of the text. I hope this helps.
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Ryano89 said:
Doesn't tablet talk require that you be on the same wifi with both the phone and tablet, or be connected by bluetooth? Cloud SMS does not require either of these, my phone can be at home and my tablet can be at work connected to wifi, this is a fact, I use it every day. If I'm wrong about Tablet Talk requirements(haven't used it several months) then I apologize. I may have misunderstood the question, but the information I provided, in response to your comment that the phone and tablet have to be near each other, was correct. But your "tone" is both unnecessary and not appreciated. I was just trying to provide info on an app that I am familiar with. I'm not sure what your problem is.
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This is correct. I use Cloud SMS everyday. I hate connecting my phone to wifi, but it still uses the phones mobile data to send the sms through the internet to my wifi tablet. Also when im away from home, i tether them together and it also works perfectly like that as well. I hate taking my phone out of my pocket while im on my tablet, this way I never have to.

Sveke said:
You have no clue what you're talking about, it's the exact same as tablet talk which i use.
So OP, don't get all excited.
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It's less expensive. I don't know for tablet talk but the Dev of cloud SMS is super fast to respond and to add features. You can find his thread on xda.
Also it s not possible without phone. Maybe with a 3g model and the sms app? Not even sure it will work...

Why not just set up a Google phone# and side load whatsApp? I have it on my n7 linked to my Google voice number. No problems. No needed to target to phone or data. True wifi sms ... And free.
The setup is the hard part...Very easy after that.
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mysms
Mysms is a great tool! It can send sms over your phone and gets synched automatically. It even supports "internal" (free) messages from mysms-users and group chats (since yesterday). Very nice tool!

tbonezx11 said:
Why not just set up a Google phone# and side load whatsApp? I have it on my n7 linked to my Google voice number. No problems. No needed to target to phone or data. True wifi sms ... And free.
The setup is the hard part...Very easy after that.
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So, you have a Google Voice number, don't have it tied to anything, and are able to send txt via your tablet that way?
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Yea Google voice lets you text via the tablet independent of or phone. You can even pay a one time fee of 20 dollars to import or existing phone number but if not just download the app on or tab and or good to go. And you can download the app on or phone if you want to text through that away from ur tablet
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Sms, yes we can! (Lte version)

Hi to everyone is interested. After the root of my Nexus 7 2013 Lte I'm restoring my app with Titanium from the backup of my old Galaxy tab 7. I have tried to restore Messaging app and It worked! Now I can send and receive sms!!! The Messaging app in my Galaxy tab 7 come from a cyanogen rom. I attache the app extracted from the rom. Make backup before to give it a try!!!

And what carrier are you on?
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Muikkuman said:
And what carrier are you on?
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3G Italy, but I suppose it work with everyone.

Yes :thumbup:
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allanon said:
3G Italy, but I suppose it work with everyone.
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Would this work with the WiFi (non lte) version? Previously, I installed the MMS apk from my note 2 and it didn't work on my non-rooted nexus 7. I had to go with Google voice to get MMS. Any ideas?

If you don't have cellular service there's no way you're gonna be able to text. that's awesome that it works on the LTE model though, makes me wanna pick one up...

will we be able to make phone calls on the LTE version with an xda hack? i want to put my simcard from my nexus4 into the nexus7 LTE model
thanks

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If you don't have cellular service there's no way you're gonna be able to text. that's awesome that it works on the LTE model though, makes me wanna pick one up...
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It makes me want to pick one up, too. You know, if it were available in the US and all...

I deodexed the Mms.apk from my Nexus 4 (Android 4.3) and put it on my N7 LTE. Worked perfectly. If you also want to use the original JB Mms.apk, here are the steps:
1. boot into a custom recovery
2. mount your /system partition
3. adb push "path to your/Mms.apk" /system/app
4. adb shell chmod 0644 /system/app/Mms.apk
5. adb reboot
And that's all. Original 4.3 SMS App for your N7 LTE

Good to know. Thanks
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When the LTE tablet comes to the US, this hack probably won't work on Verizon Wireless. They specifically put an SMS / MMS block on tablets upon activation. (So even the sim card swap wouldn't work.)

fysix said:
When the LTE tablet comes to the US, this hack probably won't work on Verizon Wireless. They specifically put an SMS / MMS block on tablets upon activation. (So even the sim card swap wouldn't work.)
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all you need to do to text from your tablet is use this app. It ties to your phone number and text come and go via wifi. I use it and almost never text from my phone anymore. It also works inside of gmail on your pc, or has a chrome extension and works as a tab in chrome. There is almost no lag between the time the phone gets the text and when it appears on your tablet in both send and receive. I highly recommend this app.

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all you need to do to text from your tablet is use this app.
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Nifty. Yeah, that would work even with an SMS block because it bypasses the cellular network entirely. Good find.

fysix said:
Nifty. Yeah, that would work even with an SMS block because it bypasses the cellular network entirely. Good find.
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So it must go to a gateway somewhere. Where?

alpine101 said:
So it must go to a gateway somewhere. Where?
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I was wondering the same thing. I'm also curious what their profit model is.

fysix said:
I was wondering the same thing. I'm also curious what their profit model is.
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Phone number harvesting for future text ad revenue maybe?

You can use certain SMS apps on WiFi only. Like whatsapp. You download the app from the whatsapp website, install and select your country and enter your phone number in and press OK. It may take 5mins. After it will fail and you just enter the number you received on you phone and type it into whatsapp on Your tablet.. Tada.
Note. You can only use whatsapp on one device.
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Voice+ from CM with Google Voice and stock mms.apk (or any other texting app) is another method for texting with your tablet, but only with your GV number. I was also using Desk SMS with Tablet SMS, but That hasn't been updated in a year and don't know how I feel about paying for an app that's no longer supported, but it works well, though SwiftKey seems delayed when entering text in that.
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Just use go sms pro, that works well and doesn't require root or overwriting mms.apk
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I use Tablet Talk. Great for SMS, MMS and Phone calls. It links with your phone via WiFi or Bluetooth.
I also have Text + installed. Works over WiFi. You get an actual phone number for your tablet.

No data, no text being sent or received

I'm running the stock T-Mobile rom on my GS4. But sometimes I've noticed that when I'm in areas that don't have a data connection for example in basement but do have voice signal, text messages won't send. Not MMS, just SMS messages. Is there anyway I can take care of this? My Nexus 4 would send messages even without a data connection. Why does the GS4 not receive or send any?

xdviper said:
I'm running the stock T-Mobile rom on my GS4. But sometimes I've noticed that when I'm in areas that don't have a data connection for example in basement but do have voice signal, text messages won't send. Not MMS, just SMS messages. Is there anyway I can take care of this? My Nexus 4 would send messages even without a data connection. Why does the GS4 not receive or send any?
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SMS does not depend on data. Strange that you have voice signal but can't send sms as they go through the same cell towers.

Yeah that was what I was wondering. Why wouldn't it send SMS if there is no data connection. Can anyone else with the stock T-Mobile ROM confirm?
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xdviper said:
Yeah that was what I was wondering. Why wouldn't it send SMS if there is no data connection. Can anyone else with the stock T-Mobile ROM confirm?
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Well I'm not totally stock but Wicked ROM is base on stock firmware.
I just turned of WiFi and mobile data, sent an sms and it went though.

Thanks dude. I don't understand why its doing this. Are you using the stock messaging app?
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xdviper said:
Thanks dude. I don't understand why its doing this. Are you using the stock messaging app?
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Yes, the only modification is MMS over WiFi but that should have anything to do with sms (plus I turned off WiFi and mobile data).
How's the phone signal when it's happening? (I don't think sms need that strong a signal however)

I just tried it, turned off data and sent a sms and it worked. I'm not sure why it doesn't work when in specific places where I have voice signal but no data.
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Been having a similar problem on stock. Full bars but no data for long stretches of time at places that I've always had data . Really odd but I'm not sure if it's rom related or not.
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I was just visiting my dad's side of the family in Wisconsin a few weeks back. The town I was in I literally had very very little service, with no data at all and was still able to text perfectly fine.