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[Q] Clock Work Mod

I have been rooted and flashed 15-20 roms all flawless until today, when I had one that failed, TGF cwm recovery, I was abel to recover my backup, but does this not restore it to original rom (meaning with setting, theams etc) If not is there a program out there that will back up your desktop as is, because its a pain to reinstall and set everything up again, espicaly if you are reverting to a backup of a rom. resign it resetup keyboard, theam etc.
Im not a noob just one to clock work restore.
Thanks in advance

It completly restores everything. I use it all the time to flash back to my daily driver. Desktop, Web pages, call Logs, SMS messages, all get restored.
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robandcathy said:
I have been rooted and flashed 15-20 roms all flawless until today, when I had one that failed, TGF cwm recovery, I was abel to recover my backup, but does this not restore it to original rom (meaning with setting, theams etc) If not is there a program out there that will back up your desktop as is, because its a pain to reinstall and set everything up again, espicaly if you are reverting to a backup of a rom. resign it resetup keyboard, theam etc.
Im not a noob just one to clock work restore.
Thanks in advance
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if you made a nandroid it restores EVERYTHING back to the way it was...including the themes, keyboard, apps whatever it is...idk what you did, but it certainly wasn't a nandroid or else everything would have been restored
there is no currently no method other than a nandroid that works flawlessly
setting up homescreens and themes over again are a way of life when you flash new roms
it sucks...but whatever...if you dont like it, dont flash new roms (not directed at you...im saying in general)

robandcathy said:
I have been rooted and flashed 15-20 roms all flawless until today, when I had one that failed, TGF cwm recovery, I was abel to recover my backup, but does this not restore it to original rom (meaning with setting, theams etc) If not is there a program out there that will back up your desktop as is, because its a pain to reinstall and set everything up again, espicaly if you are reverting to a backup of a rom. resign it resetup keyboard, theam etc.
Im not a noob just one to clock work restore.
Thanks in advance
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There must be something wrong with your backup because when you restore a backup, it restores exactly how it was saved. Meaning that if you backed it up once you had everything set up already then it would have restored with everything already set up. That includes settings,themes,apps and even widgets. So unless your backup is before you set everything up then there is something wrong.

ok guess this is a noob question then, nandroid and cwm backup the same? because I use cwm as my backup option because it works on kernal level, or at least before os loads, so I assumed this would be good enough. Running the most current version of CWM.
EDIT ok stupid me for not doing a google search, got my answer, which raises another question can cwm and nandroid co exist from the little bit I read both require hard keypresses at boot along with the phones own hard key patter. MAn if I ever felt stupid I do now lol. Kept reading about nandroid but thought it was CWM
Edit 2 after wanting to do a deeper look into nandroid brings me back to CWM
Is there a cwm forum because its not on there main web site so I can bother them about this?

Cwm works perfect for me.
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robandcathy said:
ok guess this is a noob question then, nandroid and cwm backup the same? because I use cwm as my backup option because it works on kernal level, or at least before os loads, so I assumed this would be good enough. Running the most current version of CWM.
EDIT ok stupid me for not doing a google search, got my answer, which raises another question can cwm and nandroid co exist from the little bit I read both require hard keypresses at boot along with the phones own hard key patter. MAn if I ever felt stupid I do now lol. Kept reading about nandroid but thought it was CWM
Edit 2 after wanting to do a deeper look into nandroid brings me back to CWM
Is there a cwm forum because its not on there main web site so I can bother them about this?
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The best way to go is go to recovery, then go to back up and restore, select back up, wait until finished, and then reboot system and you are set.
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I always backup to internal havent had errors that way. Only if backed up to external is when i get errors
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robandcathy said:
ok guess this is a noob question then, nandroid and cwm backup the same? because I use cwm as my backup option because it works on kernal level, or at least before os loads, so I assumed this would be good enough. Running the most current version of CWM.
EDIT ok stupid me for not doing a google search, got my answer, which raises another question can cwm and nandroid co exist from the little bit I read both require hard keypresses at boot along with the phones own hard key patter. MAn if I ever felt stupid I do now lol. Kept reading about nandroid but thought it was CWM
Edit 2 after wanting to do a deeper look into nandroid brings me back to CWM
Is there a cwm forum because its not on there main web site so I can bother them about this?
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I believe cwm backups and nandroids are interchangeable terms now. It was probably different in the past when using different backup methods but they have the same purpose.. which is an exact backup of you device.

Nandroid Backups! (need a bit knowledge)

Hi guys! So I mess with my phone all the time, switching kernels etc. I am running the ARHD 7.1.0 ROM and I did a Nandroid backup in CWM just in case anything bad happens to it.
I came from a Galaxy S2 though and was thinking of some questions that came into my mind. It would be nice for u to tell me that:
1. Does the backup flashes the "boot.img" automatically? or u have to "fastboot flash boot boot.img"??
2. Does it backs up the kernel?
3. Does it backs up my personal data like the SMS, Contacts and settings etc?
4. What will happen if I restore my stock nandroid backup over this?
5. Can I restore some other person's HTC One X's Stock/Custom ROM backup? Will it work?
THANKS!! ^_^

what version of RUU u have there ? is it an Asia_India? 1.29.720.11?

WasifSal said:
Hi guys! So I mess with my phone all the time, switching kernels etc. I am running the ARHD 7.1.0 ROM and I did a Nandroid backup in CWM just in case anything bad happens to it.
I came from a Galaxy S2 though and was thinking of some questions that came into my mind. It would be nice for u to tell me that:
1. Does the backup flashes the "boot.img" automatically? or u have to "fastboot flash boot boot.img"??
2. Does it backs up the kernel?
3. Does it backs up my personal data like the SMS, Contacts and settings etc?
4. What will happen if I restore my stock nandroid backup over this?
5. Can I restore some other person's HTC One X's Stock/Custom ROM backup? Will it work?
THANKS!! ^_^
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1. Yes, it flashes the boot.img automatically no need to use adb.
2. Yes, it backs up the kernel you we're on when you made the backup.
3. Yes, the backup will restore things to the exact state your phone was in when you made the backup. But if your really paranoid use something like titanium backup first to back up SMS etc.
4. If you restore your stock backup it will return your phone to complete stock but you will keep root access.
5. Yes technically you could restore another person's backup but I'd be careful doing that as it may cause some problems with corruption.
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shimp208 said:
1. Yes, it flashes the boot.img automatically no need to use adb.
2. Yes, it backs up the kernel you we're on when you made the backup.
3. Yes, the backup will restore things to the exact state your phone was in when you made the backup. But if your really paranoid use something like titanium backup first to back up SMS etc.
4. If you restore your stock backup it will return your phone to complete stock but you will keep root access.
5. Yes technically you could restore another person's backup but I'd be careful doing that as it may cause some problems with corruption.
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Thanks bro! U rawk! \m/

GUARDIANBD said:
what version of RUU u have there ? is it an Asia_India? 1.29.720.11?
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WasifSal said:
Thanks bro! U rawk! \m/
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Well there is some confusion.
A backup doesn't flash anything.
The restore won't flash the boot.img.

Go back to stock ROM using the Nandroid backup?

I've been playing around and checking out a few ROMS (CM9 and CM10), but since they aren't fully complete I want to go back to stock. when I rooted I made a Nandroid backup in recovery. Now If i want to go stock again do I just wipe everything and use the backup I made. Still confused because I flashed kiss kernal. Will restoring remove the kiss kernal?

No need to wipe before you restore your backup, and it will install the stock kernel also
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No... restoring from nandroid will not removed the flashed kiss kernel.
You need to flash a stock boot.img first before nandroid restore or you can flash kiss kernel that is meant for a sense rom first. Without reflashing kernel, you'll be in bootloop.

My bad
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Thanks a lot!

Twner said:
I've been playing around and checking out a few ROMS (CM9 and CM10), but since they aren't fully complete I want to go back to stock. when I rooted I made a Nandroid backup in recovery. Now If i want to go stock again do I just wipe everything and use the backup I made. Still confused because I flashed kiss kernal. Will restoring remove the kiss kernal?
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Can you share me the stock backup, upload to mediafire or something. i just want to go back to stock rom too. thanks a lot if can

chiplovez9x said:
Can you share me the stock backup, upload to mediafire or something. i just want to go back to stock rom too. thanks a lot if can
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I asked this in the IRC and was told you would need to flash the stock ROM (RUU?).
Think its this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591059
Someone could verify.
Not sure how to tell which one you need either. Anyone know what I'd need for Koodo Canada version?

chiplovez9x said:
Can you share me the stock backup, upload to mediafire or something. i just want to go back to stock rom too. thanks a lot if can
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I would but I have the Middle Eastern model (PrimoU), and im kind of a noob. But if you think it will work on your message me and i'll upload .

atonz said:
Not sure how to tell which one you need either. Anyone know what I'd need for Koodo Canada version?
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I would get the Telus RUU, but only flash the kernel (boot.img) as I imagine that even if their ROMs are different, they'll be running the same kernel.
Here's how to get the boot.img out of the RUU:
Run the RUU (no need to connect the phone, all you want it to do is extract)
Go to %temp% (Start, Run..., enter %temp%)
Sort by date to find the most recent folder
Find rom.zip in there, open it and extract the boot.img wherever you like
After that you should be able to just fastboot flash boot boot.img like any other kernel, and restore your original nandroid.

formicae said:
I would get the Telus RUU, but only flash the kernel (boot.img) as I imagine that even if their ROMs are different, they'll be running the same kernel.
Here's how to get the boot.img out of the RUU:
Run the RUU (no need to connect the phone, all you want it to do is extract)
Go to %temp% (Start, Run..., enter %temp%)
Sort by date to find the most recent folder
Find rom.zip in there, open it and extract the boot.img wherever you like
After that you should be able to just fastboot flash boot boot.img like any other kernel, and restore your original nandroid.
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Thank you, I've bookmarked this thread for my future use
Loving the speed of CM9 since I'm assuming its mostly due to the OC'd processor.

Twner said:
I've been playing around and checking out a few ROMS (CM9 and CM10), but since they aren't fully complete I want to go back to stock. when I rooted I made a Nandroid backup in recovery. Now If i want to go stock again do I just wipe everything and use the backup I made. Still confused because I flashed kiss kernal. Will restoring remove the kiss kernal?
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you need to restore a kernel that is compatible with stock roms, or either the stock kernel itself. Please note, that the boot.img inside the nandroid is NOT a fastboot flashable one, and cwm will NOT flash the boot file.
Also, it is unsure, that one phones nandroid will work in an other phone, not to mention that if cid mismatches it won't even work (this is a lesson I have learned in my own faliures).

Ken-Shi_Kun said:
Also, it is unsure, that one phones nandroid will work in an other phone, not to mention that if cid mismatches it won't even work (this is a lesson I have learned in my own faliures).
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I can confirm the nandroid from other phone is working for another phone. I just tested that. Use the nandroid backup for my phone and restore it on my wife's phone. Tested with a 2.09.707.1 nandroid backup. Once reboot, the OTA update notification is there.

[Q] Revert ROM installation

Hello all,
Yesterday I rooted my HTC One X and then I installed the custom Cyanogenmod 10 nightly build (cm-10-20121105-NIGHTLY-endeavoru), that all went through succesfully. However it was only for testing purposes, to see what Cyanogenmod 10 ROM was offering, but I now want to revert back my stock Android ROM.
During the installation process I followed the guides and I made a back-up straight after installing Clockwork Touch Recovery 5.8.4.0 (recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.4.0-endeavoru), however when I reboot after restoring my back-up my phone doesn't boot into Android OS it stays at the HTC logo screen. Before I restore I delete data and cache.
I do belive its a boot.img fault and I would love it if someone could help me find a replacement for my stock image.
I originally was using
Android 4.0.3
Unlocked international version (Tegra 3)
I purchased from Virgin in Australia
I really need my old ROM back if possible, can anyone offer me any assistance?
Thank you

You have right, it's a boot.img problem. You have to flash the original boot.img of your stock rom. I think that it's normally in your Nandroid backup, but I'm not sure.
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FabMan_UK said:
Hello all,
Yesterday I rooted my HTC One X and then I installed the custom Cyanogenmod 10 nightly build (cm-10-20121105-NIGHTLY-endeavoru), that all went through succesfully. However it was only for testing purposes, to see what Cyanogenmod 10 ROM was offering, but I now want to revert back my stock Android ROM.
During the installation process I followed the guides and I made a back-up straight after installing Clockwork Touch Recovery 5.8.4.0 (recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.4.0-endeavoru), however when I reboot after restoring my back-up my phone doesn't boot into Android OS it stays at the HTC logo screen. Before I restore I delete data and cache.
I do belive its a boot.img fault and I would love it if someone could help me find a replacement for my stock image.
I originally was using
Android 4.0.3
Unlocked international version (Tegra 3)
I purchased from Virgin in Australia
I really need my old ROM back if possible, can anyone offer me any assistance?
Thank you
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You need to flash the original boot.img with fastboot. If you boot into recovery and mount usb storage browse the "sd card" to clockwork mod/back up you will see boot.img, copy to your pc and flash with fastboot.

gr1pper said:
You need to flash the original boot.img with fastboot. If you boot into recovery and mount usb storage browse the "sd card" to clockwork mod/back up you will see boot.img, copy to your pc and flash with fastboot.
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JonasL1 said:
You have right, it's a boot.img problem. You have to flash the original boot.img of your stock rom. I think that it's normally in your Nandroid backup, but I'm not sure.
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as they said the your boot.img is in the nandroid backup.... just extract it and flash it in flastboot
could i ask you to upload your backup file and share it with the community? i would very appreciate it

matt95 said:
as they said the your boot.img is in the nandroid backup.... just extract it and flash it in flastboot
could i ask you to upload your backup file and share it with the community? i would very appreciate it
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I think I can do that.
Thanks guys for the suggestions, I'll test later and report my findings.

Half success
Hey guys, thank you for your help. Following the advice given I was able to restore my boot.img and boot into my old phones OS, it states 4.0.3 and looks pretty much how my phone looked.
However I wonder if I could get some more assistance? My knowledge is limited I find it hard to even search for the correct terminologies on this website, let alone understand all the material that pops up. I do try to take care and follow guides, I didn't seem to have any problems with Cyanogenmod on my HTC Desire.
So my problem is difficult for me to explain, I'll try to be detailed.
Before I attempted to test CM10 I always transferred every app to the phone storage. Then starting the process I then installed SuperSU, ROM Manager and Titanium Backup but I did not move them to phone storage. I used HTCDev to unlock, via HTC One X All in One Kit 1.2.2. Then after installing clockworkmod I completed a backup, with a total size of 2.47GB (I'm not sure of a typical size).
I successfully tried a CM10 nightly build 4/11/12 then 5/11/12 an hour later and liked it but wanted to revert, I had my above OP problem now solved. But when after restoring my original backup I only have Titanium Backup, ROM Manager and SuperSu as my installed apps. No other apps are installed or registered at all, I don't have any old text messages (except 6 very recent ones), or call log history. However my details are stored, so it knows my google account details and my wifi details.
Most people here understand how the HTC One X works better than me. It seems the backup is made up of 7 files my guess in brackets:
.android_secure.vfat.tar (contains the stored apps) 1.51GB
boot.img (responsible for how it boots) 8MB
cache.ext4.tar (too small for me to guess) 10.5KB
data,ext4.tar (contains user data, configurations) 63.3 MB
nandroid.md5 (checksum) <1KB
recovery.img (to boot to clockworkmod recovery) 8MB
system.ext4.tar (Stores the OS) 906MB
Can someone help diagnose the problem and offer a possible solution? I'll upload the correct boot.img when this is working.
Thank you all again.

FabMan_UK said:
Hey guys, thank you for your help. Following the advice given I was able to restore my boot.img and boot into my old phones OS, it states 4.0.3 and looks pretty much how my phone looked.
However I wonder if I could get some more assistance? My knowledge is limited I find it hard to even search for the correct terminologies on this website, let alone understand all the material that pops up. I do try to take care and follow guides, I didn't seem to have any problems with Cyanogenmod on my HTC Desire.
So my problem is difficult for me to explain, I'll try to be detailed.
Before I attempted to test CM10 I always transferred every app to the phone storage. Then starting the process I then installed SuperSU, ROM Manager and Titanium Backup but I did not move them to phone storage. I used HTCDev to unlock, via HTC One X All in One Kit 1.2.2. Then after installing clockworkmod I completed a backup, with a total size of 2.47GB (I'm not sure of a typical size).
I successfully tried a CM10 nightly build 4/11/12 then 5/11/12 an hour later and liked it but wanted to revert, I had my above OP problem now solved. But when after restoring my original backup I only have Titanium Backup, ROM Manager and SuperSu as my installed apps. No other apps are installed or registered at all, I don't have any old text messages (except 6 very recent ones), or call log history. However my details are stored, so it knows my google account details and my wifi details.
Most people here understand how the HTC One X works better than me. It seems the backup is made up of 7 files my guess in brackets:
.android_secure.vfat.tar (contains the stored apps) 1.51GB
boot.img (responsible for how it boots) 8MB
cache.ext4.tar (too small for me to guess) 10.5KB
data,ext4.tar (contains user data, configurations) 63.3 MB
nandroid.md5 (checksum) <1KB
recovery.img (to boot to clockworkmod recovery) 8MB
system.ext4.tar (Stores the OS) 906MB
Can someone help diagnose the problem and offer a possible solution? I'll upload the correct boot.img when this is working.
Thank you all again.
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i'm not quitely sure but i would reboot into bootloader and do a factory reset to see if this solves the problem, but i'm not sure this will

matt95 said:
i'm not quitely sure but i would reboot into bootloader and do a factory reset to see if this solves the problem, but i'm not sure this will
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Doesn't that clear the data and or cache? Because I've done that, before I restore. I've tried several things including random button mashing
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Looking at the file sizes of other backups, the cache can be quite large. Is it possible during the backup the cache part was fudged? Meaning that its all gone. Or possibly I hit clear cache by mistake? Though I have absolute no memory of doing that or any reason as to why I would. When I install some apps, it picks up old content.

It's maybe better to buy Titanium Back-up Pro. Than you can back-up everything with that. (Apps, text messages, settings,...) And than a Nandroid back-up and you don't lose something. You can just lose your sd card if you do something wrong. I do it always so.
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JonasL1 said:
It's maybe better to buy Titanium Back-up Pro. Than you can back-up everything with that. (Apps, text messages, settings,...) And than a Nandroid back-up and you don't lose something. You can just lose your sd card if you do something wrong. I do it always so.
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Its embarrassing but I already own Titanium Back-up Pro, I assumed (incorrectly) that clockworkmod backup was almost like taking a snapshot of the current system operating.
I had already backed up everything on the USB mountable drive space, but not the part that is actually useful to backup. D'oh.
I wondered if anyone was familiar with clockworkmod back up process and could inform me of how I am missing something so obvious and I click X Y Z a voila, its restored.

That's strange if you restored both things and your apps and text messages and more stuff are missing.
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JonasL1 said:
That's strange if you restored both things and your apps and text messages and more stuff are missing.
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I know, I used 7-zip and I could successfully extract the *.tar files and there was so much information there, it had all of the apps I used. In the morning (I'm in Australia), I will try to find a way to manually import information. No idea how to start other than with an Internet Search.

Okay that didn't help at all, I'm stuck. I can see the apps but they will not install from the phone storage.
I can see in the .tar files the system apps that come pre-loaded but are not on my phone now, like Facebook. It's frustrating because I cannot do a factory restore because I do not have access to an original HTC installation. Is there an official international 4.0.3 installation image available or am I stuck with a screwed up phone until HTC release the official Australian 4.1 release?
Thanks people.
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I'm making the assumption that something failed during my first backup and that is why it didn't work on restore. I believe its the cache information as the rest are large in size and they pass the MD5 checksum, I don't know this for sure though.
My boot.img would be no good for the collection as it already exists. The boot.img I am using is the one I extracted from the RUU 1.29.728.12 I downloaded, since that should be the one my phone came with and it works.
My experience from this is that Cyanogenmod 10 is not yet ready for me to use but is looking promising. Also that I cannot rely on ClockWorkMod solely as a backup solution and should have used phones included backup features and Titanium Backup Pro that I own.
Cheers everyone.

[Q] Nandroid question

Hey guys;
Essentially; if I do a nandroid backup before I flash a new rom, can I go back to stock by doing a nandroid restore?
Did a search but wanted to get a proper answer.
I have a n7105 with Vodafone software from Australia. There is no stock rom to download for this, and my main concern is keeping some sort of backup so that I can flash back to 'stock' if anything goes wrong and I need to do a warranty repair.
I have flashed many phones in the past but this is the first time I haven't been able to download the stock software.
If I root the phone, flash CWM, do a Nandroid, then flash a different rom, can I get back to my original software by loading my nandroid backup? Is that how nandroid works?
Thanks people; I really appreciate it.
Vincent

VincentRC said:
Hey guys;
Essentially; if I do a nandroid backup before I flash a new rom, can I go back to stock by doing a nandroid restore?
Did a search but wanted to get a proper answer.
I have a n7105 with Vodafone software from Australia. There is no stock rom to download for this, and my main concern is keeping some sort of backup so that I can flash back to 'stock' if anything goes wrong and I need to do a warranty repair.
I have flashed many phones in the past but this is the first time I haven't been able to download the stock software.
If I root the phone, flash CWM, do a Nandroid, then flash a different rom, can I get back to my original software by loading my nandroid backup? Is that how nandroid works?
Thanks people; I really appreciate it.
Vincent
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yes.. you can go back with the restore option. Cheers

rajit said:
yes.. you can go back with the restore option. Cheers
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Awesome! So, again to clarify, I can move from say, cm back to Vodafones 4.1.2 or whatever it is?
Also, I would probably want to move the actual backup image off my phone once its made, is that possible?

VincentRC said:
Awesome! So, again to clarify, I can move from say, cm back to Vodafones 4.1.2 or whatever it is?
Also, I would probably want to move the actual backup image off my phone once its made, is that possible?
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When you will restore your backup you will come back to your ROM (included settings) you had when you proceeded to this Nandroid.
You can move the backup but be careful: you will have to put back the folder in the same directory and name.

Memphis_ said:
When you will restore your backup you will come back to your ROM (included settings) you had when you proceeded to this Nandroid.
You can move the backup but be careful: you will have to put back the folder in the same directory and name.
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Excellent! Thanks guys, I really appreciate your help!

VincentRC said:
Awesome! So, again to clarify, I can move from say, cm back to Vodafones 4.1.2 or whatever it is?
Also, I would probably want to move the actual backup image off my phone once its made, is that possible?
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Yes look at you sdcard/clockworkmod folder after backup. You should not cut it. Copy it in anywhere and dont touch any of this file or you will get md5 error..
Any time you want to back just press the restore button ...
Now flash any rom..
Cheers