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I am getting annoyed of many ROM threads here, because they are
stating "speed improvements, minor fixes, stable" - if you cant name it exactly, i call bull****.
ROMs being based on the same RUU as other ROMs but not stating what is different. please stop wasting my time. i dont want to go sherlock holmes on your ROM. when you just spend 2h, to make a ROM that is basically the same like most other (just differeing in the point above) - thats fine, you can play around and share it here - but PLEASE tell us.
incomplete list of what is working or not. listing only BT as not working and then reading on the third page "animations and browser download dont work" and then a reply "they dont work on any sense 4.0 ROM". Or stuff like "bugs: you tell me". could you please take 10minutes to test against a checklist?!
so whats my point:
I am no ROM developer, but a software developer. And I see all the wonderfull work done here. But i hate the lazy "you all probably know what im talking about" attitude around here. I feel a bit scammed by either the very shiny threads with custom logos and artwork, listing as many points as they can - whats the purpose - you dont sell anything here. Or on the other hand the very short threads that omit the most important points, making the ROMs incompareable - are you hiding something?
so i propose:
an enforced thread layout, that is composed by the community.
some points i would like to see in it:
name
version
based on (RUU revision number, link)
android revision(, sense revision)
type (a coarse classification: stock, themed, bloatfree, desensed, ported, testrelease, AOSP. multiple selection possible)
changes to base (the 5 main topics of this ROM. at least kernel, bootscreen, keyboard, launcher, theme)
dependencies: firmware etc.
screenshot (i know mostly there is no difference, but i personally am a visual type and need them )
a bug checklist (also community build, most usual bugs, states: ok, minor, broken, untested)
a tweaks checklist (e.g. rooted, deodexed, zipaligned, crt, recent apps, APM, battery, /etc/hosts, beats etc.)
APK versions (also a community build checklist, maybe a script for that)
changelog (for each old version a download, for each change a source link, not just "thanks xyuser" - having the ROM in github etc. would be awesome)
I bet there are some more points - i think the non-developers should unite and demand a bit of quality. Develop and enforce a standard. Use this thread to gather ideas.
And inb4 "be gratefull and take what you get" - no, I think chefs have a responsibility to be transparent, they get lots of testers and glory in return. XDA is a central reference for everyone who roots his device. Mods have taken some good steps to clean up the mess. Now its time for the next.
I think the more detailed the information gets, the faster the development will become and users can build trust in what they flash.
Mods, would something like this be possible?
Yes, it will make everything easier for the users too compare one with another.
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Yes, it will make everything easier for the users too compare one with another.
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thats what I think. any other oppinions?
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thats what I think. any other oppinions?
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I also agree, There are way to many roms out there, I couldnt possibly flash them all and test them, My phone would be outdated by the time i managed that.
The majority are exactly the same, except with the occasional different theme /tweak /app but other than that i think they are similar...
I also get the feeling that the ROMs are a pretty much copy & paste job (with the exception of the devs that build from scratch)
I would like to see some sort of organization in the development thread.. I have nothing against these ROM Makers, But if the first post pointed out what exactly makes THIS ROM different than any others. i think it would be less confusing to people..
I am so for this. I am tired myself of all the crap too. I would like to know what I'm getting and how stable it truly is. I mean saying it's stable but then u find our in post number 400, that one the newest release there are some bugs which don't make it go for every day use. And if it's kanged, tell us, some do tell us but then same get someone else and make it theirs with some changes but nobody finds out till later. I'm also tired of ppl causing problems for others, whenever they follow rules more than others, and tell them this is such & suches place u better leave. I that's y some really good ppl leave here and sometimes the mods allow it cause they're friends. It's total bs, but this is just how I feel!
+ 1 ^^^
I get belittled sometimes in them threads, Im just trying to ask a simple question and the replies are 'dude.. this was asked ten times already.. look at post 862816745 and you will see....' The damn threads change so fast i cant keep up.. Im not a noob... maybe a novice to the sensation but i know what im doing in general.
People expect everyone to know how to do things - because they have done it themselves so many times... Id rather help someone with the simplest question than shout at them for not asking for help and bricking their phone...
C'mon guys, play nice
Rant over lol
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Maybe there should be a forum for 'Original Development' for projects that aren't a variation of another project. I've seen this for other devices' forums.
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I am so for this. I am tired myself of all the crap too. I would like to know what I'm getting and how stable it truly is. I mean saying it's stable but then u find our in post number 400, that one the newest release there are some bugs which don't make it go for every day use. And if it's kanged, tell us, some do tell us but then same get someone else and make it theirs with some changes but nobody finds out till later. I'm also tired of ppl causing problems for others, whenever they follow rules more than others, and tell them this is such & suches place u better leave. I that's y some really good ppl leave here and sometimes the mods allow it cause they're friends. It's total bs, but this is just how I feel!
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Looks like I was never enjoyed my phone even just for 1 day. Today I've installed a ROM, adding many apps from Market which took many hours to setup & configure.
While I've become comfortable with the ROM, something freaked Me ouy: "Oh, there is even better and way more stable ROM available than this current ROM." Downloading, it takes about 1 to 2 hours. Then booted the ROM, but I caught myself disappointed with the news, "This new one has just another clone of the first ROM I've ever tried." Oh no, it has different theme and feels! "All of them are on the same base, same kernel, same etc, etc, etc."
Then, my final decision should be restoring the first ROM through Recovery, but again it takes minutes to complete.
And yet, I fooled with Battery Calibration placebo/myth which actually doesn't exist. Do I need to recalibrate my battery on s ROM changes? No, Google Official has just stated it's just a myth and placebo.
This is what I feel, sorry I mean no offense to any Devs.
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+ 1 ^^^
I get belittled sometimes in them threads, Im just trying to ask a simple question and the replies are 'dude.. this was asked ten times already.. look at post 862816745 and you will see....' The damn threads change so fast i cant keep up.. Im not a noob... maybe a novice to the sensation but i know what im doing in general.
People expect everyone to know how to do things - because they have done it themselves so many times... Id rather help someone with the simplest question than shout at them for not asking for help and bricking their phone...
C'mon guys, play nice
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Dude I am so with u. Some threads r just so damn long that to every little post would take to long and I would probably never be able to flash a rom. As far as noobs go, we were all noobs at one point. I get most to get me on gtalk so I can help them without some as telling them off. Yeah sometimes it takes me some time but hell I've been able to save quite a few phones.
Its a much better feeling knowing you have helped someone and saved a phone from the horrible stock ROM or possible brick..
Ive done my fair share of helping noobs to help other noobs... Ive also saved a few phones from the trash too
XDA is a community - not a place to rant at people for being a noob - Although there are some hopeless people out there who do not follow the rules, But the majority of us just need some guidance..
The worlds best android developer wasnt born the best... he / she was obviously a noob who learnt from someone else...
The way i see it is that noobs are the future of development so dont hate us
I so agree and am getting ready to learn the cooking game from a friend and great deveolper. He's also getting ready to aquire a sensation and is going to port some of his awesome work from the 3d to the sensation, but make it with ics. Don't know if it'll every see xda because of the drama but it'll be on our teams site. It might make since he does have stuff in evo on xda but I don't know yet.
I'll probably get flamed for this, but that's xda.
The devs don't do this for our convenience. As users who don't pay them a salary, I don't think we're in a position to tell them how they should share what they do. They use their spare time to make something and then choose to share with the masses, which they really didn't have to do. How they choose to present their work should really be up to them IMO.
Besides, if you stick around long enough and read the threads now and then, you'll be able to tell which devs are doing real work versus someone who just forks another person's ROM and throws in some personal tweaks.
Yes most of the ROMs are similar in looks or function, but that's too be expected since everything comes from whatever HTC releases. Each one has its own flavor since each dev has different priorities. Want something totally different? Try one of the WIP AOSP/CM9 builds or maybe MiUI v4.
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I'll probably get flamed for this, but that's xda.
The devs don't do this for our convenience. As users who don't pay them a salary, I don't think we're in a position to tell them how they should share what they do. They use their spare time to make something and then choose to share with the masses, which they really didn't have to do. How they choose to present their work should really be up to them IMO.
Besides, if you stick around long enough and read the threads now and then, you'll be able to tell which devs are doing real work versus someone who just forks another person's ROM and throws in some personal tweaks.
Yes most of the ROMs are similar in looks or function, but that's too be expected since everything comes from whatever HTC releases. Each one has its own flavor since each dev has different priorities. Want something totally different? Try one of the WIP AOSP/CM9 builds or maybe MiUI v4.
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I think the real question is, WHY are the devs doing it at all? There are motives. I think this thread is basically asking them to spare us. If they decide to pack their ball up and go somewhere else, no big deal. The REAL devs will always stick around.
This thread isn't directed at our "patron devs" but all the no names that pop up with these ridiculous, and misleading, clones while asking for donations.
All in all, no one is forcing us to flash their ROM. It would be nice to have several layers to the dev forum. We need a place to easily see what the pro devs are up to without all the mess in the way. Or, how some genuine developing is coming along...
Matt
I can see it from both sides, All the devs good or bad are still great in their own way.
But some tidying up in the development section wouldnt do any harm... Its like a jumble sale in there, Rummaging around to see whats what. Its ridiculous
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Now, you watch your attitude and language or simply face the consequences...
yaddamean, I understand what you mean but I would say the opposite: devs that dont care to be transparent, can host their ROMs on their servers elsewhere. I know this is a quite fundamental difference in views. But i dont get what should be the advantage of being the silent majority.
Good things never come easily.
I bet we would not loose one good dev.
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I agree with u and because of yaddamean and others like him who like to just jump in and flamming ppl. As soon as someone stands up to those kinda ppl, the real supporters of this Site and it's Real dev, get in trouble. That's y ppl leave here too!
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this will get us less viewers but more mods hopfully
is there any chance of changing the current practice?
That's y it was moved less attention.
Hi guys,
I really like this new phone from HTC and I'm seriously considering of buying it. However, even with all the ICS improvements, I still like the original and pure googlish android 4.0 experience more than the new sense. Do you think that a fast, clean and smooth pure-ICS rom will be avaiable soon on the HTC One X? You know...I think HTC published a lot of drivers these days, so I assume it wouldn't be too difficoult to build a clean and simple ICS rom from sources...
Anyway, I hope the answer to this topic will come as a new thread containing directly some interesting download links ;D
Thanks!
A pointless thread in the Developement forum.
I'm sure we will se a CyanogenMod ROM but not because of your request..
Your wish is my command.
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good answer bro
This should be asked in general. Not here.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk
You aren't funny. At all. I come from a wonderful experience within the Nexus development area of xda (I've got a N1), and I wanted to start sharing some ideas here in the mind of getting this HTC in the near future. I guess some people here think to be god only for the higher experience or...whatever, and they enjoy themselves answering like as more as possible.
Overall...yes, you've got a result now. I'll probably get a Galaxy Nexus, but surely not for sense-related tastes... just to avoid the need of talking again with people like you. You could have answered "surely CyanogenMod will fit your needs, buy this awesome device and you won't wait long! ;D", and you would have even so 'closed' the request, but with a smile.
A word is enough to the wise
I don't think you're wise enough anyway. You're spamming answering like that, not me. I've made an answer. Nothing forbidden or...whatsoever.
p.s.:CyanogenMod is still unavaiable for many devices that have gingerbread/ICS very well-developed from other devs. Usually, CM comes months after a stable release (official or not) has been shared. On the N1, we've ICS fully working (incl. HWA), and CM devs said we won't get their 'v.9' almost surely.
That's all.
EDIT: I think people should ask about future developments...to developer. Why should I be answered from the 'general section' users? Why should they know if developers are now or are planning of working on a pure ICS release??
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Overall...yes, you've got a result now. I'll probably get a Galaxy Nexus, but surely not for sense-related tastes... just to avoid the need of talking again with people like you.
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Are you serious? You buy another device because of 2 people in a forum who tell their opinion?!
Just be honest and tell us that you have never wanted to buy the One X..
A word is enough to the wise
I don't think you're wise enough anyway. You're spamming answering like that, not me. I've made an answer. Nothing forbidden or...whatsoever.
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You do a thread which doesn't fit in the development forum and now this post:
Please tell me who is the real spammer?
I felt a decision: I won't buy the One X, the HTC Wildfire is a better smartphone without so many spamming in the forum there..
To somewhat control the the masses of Jelly bean threads that are currently arising, I made this thread to collect all talk about it.
Anything related to JB belongs in this thread. We don't want hundreds of threads with the same information, so please use this thread instead.
Yes I know I fooled you with the title, but I somehow need to get your attention
Any other JB threads will be closed to keep this froum clean.
Thanks
So here we have it, the galaxy nexus on JB. Incredibly smooth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN3EXAFRxKQ , head over to the mini galaxy s 3 and the galaxy nexus comparison that begins at 3:50, you'll see how smooth the Nexus seems to be in comparison to the S3
I've got a question:
We all know the Sense itself is a bit of a power hog, not only the battery, but the interface as well. With all the changes implemented or the possibilities given to the developers with the introduction of Jelly Bean, is it in theory possible that we have an HTC Sense UI running as buttery smooth as the Galaxy Nexus's UI? Or are we all being hyped for nothing?
Even the browser experience on the Galaxy Nexus seems bad ass! If i recall correctly in the video i linked you to, zooms in and out of webpages without even the slightest bit of lag while the phone is loading. Not to mention scrolling on the page, simply incredible. This is something though that should be easily achievable on the One X. I'm just interested in the Sense UI atmm. It is beautiful but at the same time the stuttering gets on my nerves.
So, is the jelly bean RUU out yet for my phone? I really want it and hate that HTC take so long to get updates to us I mean this is the bestest phone in the whole world but HTC really suck by not making it as good as it could or should be in my dreams with the fast updates and the s-off with unlocked bootloader and exquisite camera that compresses too much but the phone is really awesome so can you tell me when the udpate will be on my phone????
just jokes guys/gals,
Thanks to the OP for starting this. As a member on several other forums I cannot believe the amount of crap that gets posted on the one subject but in 74,365 different threads
Even amongst XDA, (must admit I have limited myself to a few specific devices and not strayed too far), I am completely amazed at the people who refuse to search before posting or just blurt out any new thread when it comes to this particular phone. Just take a look at the s-off debacle FFS
Back on topic, I'm actually looking forward to the release of jelly bean for the HOX, fingers crossed we have been able to achieve s-off by then too
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So, is the jelly bean RUU out yet for my phone? I really want it and hate that HTC take so long to get updates to us I mean this is the bestest phone in the whole world but HTC really suck by not making it as good as it could or should be in my dreams with the fast updates and the s-off with unlocked bootloader and exquisite camera that compresses too much but the phone is really awesome so can you tell me when the udpate will be on my phone????
just jokes guys/gals,
Thanks to the OP for starting this. As a member on several other forums I cannot believe the amount of crap that gets posted on the one subject but in 74,365 different threads
Even amongst XDA, (must admit I have limited myself to a few specific devices and not strayed too far), I am completely amazed at the people who refuse to search before posting or just blurt out any new thread when it comes to this particular phone. Just take a look at the s-off debacle FFS
Back on topic, I'm actually looking forward to the release of jelly bean for the HOX, fingers crossed we have been able to achieve s-off by then too
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I hope it gives us the buttery smooth experience on Sense that we are all believing in and not just a flop.
Haha! If that's indeed the case, than iphone has every reason to continue suing. Cause if anything ever set the iphone and android apart then it was smoothness Vs more possibilities (decent smoothness)
but it will turn out to be smoothness vs smoothness and more possibilies = Fatality.
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So, is the jelly bean RUU out yet for my phone? I really want it and hate that HTC take so long to get updates to us I mean this is the bestest phone in the whole world but HTC really suck by not making it as good as it could or should be in my dreams with the fast updates and the s-off with unlocked bootloader and exquisite camera that compresses too much but the phone is really awesome so can you tell me when the udpate will be on my phone????
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I was allready thinking on how to drop myself out of the window... This becomes such a standard sadly :/
Maybe XDA should do like on other techi forums, you can't access certain area's without having answered a few tech-based question... This would reduce the amount of "noobs which will never even try to learn/understand something...
Back to topic.
The biggest problem is, that if you see the topic allready has 300+ pages you won't read them all in the hope to find an answer, which may be outdated, the only and best solution (and I'm hoping it will be the case here) would be to update the OP as often as possible with all available information and links
Jelly Bean PORTED to One X!!!!
Good news people....
Finally a good reason to root!!!! Waiting for the issues to be resolved...
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I've just noticed that this has made the XDA portal. It's been up on quite a few websites today that I've noticed, and I just wanted to say a big thank you to all the writers who have helped spread the word. If you are one of them, you're awesome!
This is a port of Jellybean, based off of the roms for the two nexus devices that were released yesterday. I'm working to add in all of the key features at the moment, and it's going pretty well, so you can probably expect to see some kind of Alpha release fairly soon.
It's based off the porting work done for CM9 for our phone in the topic here, with some help from randomblame in the #cyanogenmod-dev channel. (Thanks!)
Known issues
Wifi
Audio
Camera
Probably more
Ironically, the issue we've been trying to resolve with CM9 for this phone, the rotation bug, appears to be fixed here. Not sure whether to laugh or cry
Images
http://i.imgur.com/CgWMF.png
http://i.imgur.com/DLd2U.png
http://i.imgur.com/eQRbc.png
http://i.imgur.com/htOEO.png
http://i.imgur.com/ewQrl.png
http://i.imgur.com/y4R30.png
Video (Thanks to Vere850211)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whavUiVkYq8
Update
I've started to port the Galaxy Nexus image instead. The new version is a lot more stable, and I guess I've had a bit of a change of heart with regards to updating. This version is more complete and comes with all of the updated gapps, which means we get all of the awesome stuff that was shown at IO.
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Remember to flash the boot.img in the zip.
Notes
When you're going through the setup, the waiting page (After you select language) takes a while, sometimes it fails and resets to the start of setup.
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I had this thought a while back.....
Sense is obviously HTC's standard in-house UI, but they also know that a lot of users would love to be able run the stock android UI.
Given the delay it take to integrate Sense with stock android. Wouldn't it be good of them to release a stock android version for those that would like to use it, whilst they are ironing out the integration issues.
That way if you want to use Jelly Bean sooner you can, or you can wait for the Sense overlay release.
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I had this thought a while back.....
Sense is obviously HTC's standard in-house UI, but they also know that a lot of users would love to be able run the stock android UI.
Given the delay it take to integrate Sense with stock android. Wouldn't it be good of them to release a stock android version for those that would like to use it, whilst they are ironing out the integration issues.
That way if you want to use Jelly Bean sooner you can, or you can wait for the Sense overlay release.
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They will never do this. Skinning android with Sense/TW/etc is their form of branding. They do have other options though: http://www.davejunia.com/2012/06/what-android-manufacturers-need-to-do/
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I had this thought a while back.....
Sense is obviously HTC's standard in-house UI, but they also know that a lot of users would love to be able run the stock android UI.
Given the delay it take to integrate Sense with stock android. Wouldn't it be good of them to release a stock android version for those that would like to use it, whilst they are ironing out the integration issues.
That way if you want to use Jelly Bean sooner you can, or you can wait for the Sense overlay release.
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That's actually a pretty good idea.... But then they get another excuse to delay the Sense release, which most of us don't care, but that will have all the kernel upgrades and what not, also they would never want to undermine the importance that they are putting on Sense as a marketing item... So let them do their bit of delayed development.... We can in the mean time, head to some ROM that already has the new 4.1 features like the one that I have posted above... If HTC releases something like this then people will start appreciating them rather than *****ing about performance issues as the stock ICS will be by default way smoother than SENSE...
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Good news people....
Finally a good reason to root!!!! Waiting for the issues to be resolved...
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Think we're all pretty capable of reading the Dev forum to see that thread already...
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Think we're all pretty capable of reading the Dev forum to see that thread already...
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LOL.... True... Was just an update to people who are new to the forums and on this thread.... Way better than creating a new post and then writing the whole thing like I created the whole thing!!! Saw some people do this earlier.... This is info sharing.... No share button like FB,...
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That's actually a pretty good idea.... But then they get another excuse to delay the Sense release, which most of us don't care, but that will have all the kernel upgrades and what not, also they would never want to undermine the importance that they are putting on Sense as a marketing item... So let them do their bit of delayed development.... We can in the mean time, head to some ROM that already has the new 4.1 features like the one that I have posted above... If HTC releases something like this then people will start appreciating them rather than *****ing about performance issues as the stock ICS will be by default way smoother than SENSE...
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The other benefit is the increase in user base.
IMO HTC phones, as far as build quality, are the best.
Android is often synonymous with the word choice. If HTC gave users the "choice" of being able to run the latest Android UI not long after the new Android UI is introduced, or to run Sense if that's what they prefer, surely they would increase Market Share/User Base.
New update coming soon to HOX? Including 3.1 kernel? New Android Jelly Bean? Dont you guys think that this sounds to good to be real (to be from HTC) :cyclops:
That's it. I've had it.
First HTC don't give me ICS with One X, their flagship device. And now, the delicious Jelly Bean comes out and I can't even use this. Wow, thanks HTC but I don't want to be stuck having Gingerbread all my life.
Going to sell off my One X and buy this Galaxy Nexus device. Seems to be the best phone on the market today, hands down.
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That's it. I've had it.
First HTC don't give me ICS with One X, their flagship device. And now, the delicious Jelly Bean comes out and I can't even use this. Wow, thanks HTC but I don't want to be stuck having Gingerbread all my life.
Going to sell off my One X and buy this Galaxy Nexus device. Seems to be the best phone on the market today, hands down.
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REALLY?? your One X doesnt come with ICS out of the box?
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That's it. I've had it.
First HTC don't give me ICS with One X, their flagship device. And now, the delicious Jelly Bean comes out and I can't even use this. Wow, thanks HTC but I don't want to be stuck having Gingerbread all my life.
Going to sell off my One X and buy this Galaxy Nexus device. Seems to be the best phone on the market today, hands down.
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Are you sure you dont have ICS ?
in_deed said:
That's it. I've had it.
First HTC don't give me ICS with One X, their flagship device. And now, the delicious Jelly Bean comes out and I can't even use this. Wow, thanks HTC but I don't want to be stuck having Gingerbread all my life.
Going to sell off my One X and buy this Galaxy Nexus device. Seems to be the best phone on the market today, hands down.
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Maybe he expected an actual Ice Cream Sandwich to come with his phone....
in_deed said:
That's it. I've had it.
First HTC don't give me ICS with One X, their flagship device. And now, the delicious Jelly Bean comes out and I can't even use this. Wow, thanks HTC but I don't want to be stuck having Gingerbread all my life.
Going to sell off my One X and buy this Galaxy Nexus device. Seems to be the best phone on the market today, hands down.
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Lol you should be super happy you have a system higher than you think you had.
Lolz. Before someone thinks I am trolling..
I was just being sarcastic (/s).
Sorry about that. Thanked everyone who replied.
I LOVE MY ONE X
PS - An actual icecream sandwich wouldn't be too bad. Gotta solve the melting issues though. Jellybean is easier.
Can I ask a dim question? Will branded handsets get Jellybean the same time as non-branded ones, or will we have to wait longer as it goes through network testing?
Hi,
I do know that's more or less an old topic but well...I have a big dilemma so maybe you should help me out.
I'm owning a SGS3 int. and well I'm more or less fine with it; I choosed it over HOX mainly because of chance to change battery and winner cpu/ram benchmark (with 15/20% more in every damn test) and a bigger screen (not much but better then nothing).
The dilemma started 1 week ago when a friend of mine bought the HOX and well...the screen seems really so much better in HOX.
At the same time, despite few games lag on HOX, the Tegra has some optimized game for it giving some cool effect.
I mainly use the phone to watch movie and play videogames so, in some way, HOX win for me (at least just watching it) so I was thinking to chance my SGS3 for an HOX but I wanted to ear your opinion, hoping that will not start flame or fan boy reply.
I am really interested in opnions of who maybe tried both or who maybe changed his SGS3 for the HOX (like I'll probably do asap).
Thanks,
Max
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Hi,
I do know that's more or less an old topic but well...I have a big dilemma so maybe you should help me out.
I'm owning a SGS3 int. and well I'm more or less fine with it; I choosed it over HOX mainly because of chance to change battery and winner cpu/ram benchmark (with 15/20% more in every damn test) and a bigger screen (not much but better then nothing).
The dilemma started 1 week ago when a friend of mine bought the HOX and well...the screen seems really so much better in HOX.
At the same time, despite few games lag on HOX, the Tegra has some optimized game for it giving some cool effect.
I mainly use the phone to watch movie and play videogames so, in some way, HOX win for me (at least just watching it) so I was thinking to chance my SGS3 for an HOX but I wanted to ear your opinion, hoping that will not start flame or fan boy reply.
I am really interested in opnions of who maybe tried both or who maybe changed his SGS3 for the HOX (like I'll probably do asap).
Thanks,
Max
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There have already been similar threads like this one you should really go searching for them. Cause frankly everyone on this forum is sick of it.
tons of info in the One X mega information thread
and shadehh is right please enough with these comparison threads, they are against XDA rules
few moments now and this thread will be flooded by fools
to mods: we need a sticky please saying comparison threads are not allowed
You have a SGS3 so you already know its strengths and weaknesses. Your friend has a One X so you can figure out what its strengths and weaknesses are specific to the way you'll use it. Like others just said, there are tons of threads discussing the two phones. That should be more than enough for you to make an informed decision. Personally, I don't get "what should I buy?" threads. Everyone uses their phones differently and has different needs and criteria. Do some research and buy what you think is best. That seems more logical than making a decision based on the advice of total strangers.
well i had an amoled screen before and i got to tell u that i prefer the LCD. i am more with ur opinion but that wouldnt make me change the s3 is the battery .it is something that some times u want to have more than anything else.thats the only minus in hox the battery everything else i think are the same with s3
hamdir said:
to mods: we need a sticky please saying comparison threads are not allowed
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Actually we need some good discussion thread with protagonists antagonists for each phone where every one can say what it is they like about their phone (or disliked on the other).
Anyway I bought the HOX before the SGS3 came out but before the SGS3 came out I already knew Samsung would blow HTC away with its hardware specs but I own a SGS2 and a Desire so I know a bit about the difference in user experience and the whole time I used the SGS2 I was disappointed because i missed all those little Sense touches. Sense just is the best mobile user experience period, nothing comes close in software polishedness (not "even" ios), everything just works and everything is integrated into each other; eg. open the gallery app and see the galleries from your friends there, or browse contacts and go directly to their galleries, the htc keyboard is pretty damn good; I bought swiftkey x when using the sgs2 but I am using just the default keyboard; duplicate contacts are automatically merged in sense; and there is so, so much more; really there is only one touchwiz feature I miss in Sense and that's the smart alarm function....
If your thing is showing of quadrant scores though don't get the hox
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to mods: we need a sticky please saying comparison threads are not allowed
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The rules sticky already says that. It's just that no-one ever reads it.
SGS3 Sucks . If you are not a fanboy sell it and get HOX . I have used both.
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Actually we need some good discussion thread with protagonists antagonists for each phone where every one can say what it is they like about their phone (or disliked on the other).
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But hasn't this been done? To death? It's all just opinion and there's rarely agreement amongst owners better yet any type of common ground that would hold up in a comparison. Name one feature of the SGS3 or One X that doesn't already have commentary running on it. I don't know whether I'm a protagonist or antagonist (maybe I'm both?) but I'm tired of the circular debates that lead nowhere, don’t change anyone's opinion, and consistently end with the thread being locked. Yesterday's One X vs. SGS3 comparison thread covered race and sexual orientation. Do you really want to go there again?
There’s already a 160 page SGS3 vs. One X comparison thread in the i9300 forum. Why doesn’t everyone use that as the “official” comparison thread? I guarantee you anything anyone wants to discuss has been covered at least a dozen times there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652250
because for each and everyone it's a different discussion, everyone has their own things they think are important and their own things they think are less important
Thread closed.
Comparison thread are finish.
So I came over to AT&T the 10th and love it. Love my HOX(except the low storage space, which is moot if you have dropbox or other cloud storage I guess.) It is elegant and I actually love Sense on this thing coming from a Galaxy S2 with touchwiz. I find it refreshing and it is, for me, a combination of what I loved about my Nexus S 4G and what I loved about my Hero as far as design and such. So, I heard 2.20 is not rootable thus far. This phone came with 1.85 on it and it is prompting to update the software. So, I am curious if I should just go ahead and try to root now or just update and be patient and see what develops. I get confused with this phone's forum support because some threads are for the Tegra 3 only and some aren't. As of right now I am not even sure if the US version is capable of S-Off or not, I am intermittently doing searches and trying to find credible information as much as I can. Please understand that I am consistently busy with my child and other things in life at the moment so this isn't necessarily priority as it is for some of you and I mean that respectfully. Any information or advice is appreciated. I am an average user. I have had two rooted phones both being Samsung so HTC development/modification is new to me thus far since I never rooted my Hero. I don't plan to tether but I would like more options that require root such as aesthetic changes and other optimizations, and some battery life advantages. So my question is should I get in a hurry and root now with 1.85 or is development with 2.2 or further going to go quick enough that I could wait and see what kind of options come out of it?
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2. This forum is more for the international or tegra 3 version, but your questions are general enough I think.
Your phone is new enough that I think you should run stock until you've formed a solid opinion of if you even like it.
An inherent danger of rooting then flashing a new Rom is that something may go wrong. If you're new to it, you may tank an otherwise perfectly functional device. Then you'd be miffed and posting threads about how awful the phone is.
If you look around there are several people that have done exactly that and blame HTC.
My advice is to really break it in for a few weeks. Enjoy having a warranty and if you REALLY just want to root for aesthetic changes, then read up before taking the risk.
Welcome Board and good luck.
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You should look at the AT&T one x section. This is for the international tegra verison so roms are different. Id root your 1.85 version then get a custom rom on it. Neither device has S-Off at the moment.