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Hi 2 all!
I am a complete newbie in android (I used windows mobile before) but I am very very impressed.
I am running the htc standard rom on my desire.
As a newbie I have a few questions:
.) How/is it possible to edit the weather database to add a location which is not mentiond in the city list?
.) Backup:
- My phone is set to automaticly backup my setting - how can I resore them? When resetting the phone to factory settings is there a possibility to restore my backup?
.) Flashing a new rom:
- Gernerally: Will the storage card touched when flashing a new rom - I mean will eg. my photos (saved a the sorage card) deleted?
Thats all for the moment ;-)
Thanks for your answers,
br Chris
cyron_at said:
Hi 2 all!
I am a complete newbie in android (I used windows mobile before) but I am very very impressed.
I am running the htc standard rom on my desire.
As a newbie I have a few questions:
.) How/is it possible to edit the weather database to add a location which is not mentiond in the city list?
.) Backup:
- My phone is set to automaticly backup my setting - how can I resore them? When resetting the phone to factory settings is there a possibility to restore my backup?
.) Flashing a new rom:
- Gernerally: Will the storage card touched when flashing a new rom - I mean will eg. my photos (saved a the sorage card) deleted?
Thats all for the moment ;-)
Thanks for your answers,
br Chris
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For the 3rd one, no
BTW, all the answers are here, just use the search function.
if you are going to use app2sd - then you will lose everything on your sd card
(unless i'm flashing wrong-i'm also a noob haha)
Hi all,
I have been a winmob user for over 5 years and i know pretty much everything about them. (see join date) Though 3 days ago i got a a8183 desire.
My god i have a lot to learn about Android. Winmob seemed so much simplier to pick apart with registry and custom roms.
Anyways i have been reading thread after thread for days yet i still have a couple of questions that i cannot get clear answers for.
I have a a8183 telstra desire running on optus. I have updated to the latest offical 2.2 ROM. (Everyone mentions OTA (over the air) though i downloaded it and installed thru windows).
So i would appreciate if someone could help me out with my questions/assumptions.
1. From what i have read you cannot r00t a froyo OS. Is that right? Though i have found an app z4root that will do it temporarily until reboot. Unrevoked doesnt seem to work.
2. To change system files you need not only root though you need the clockworkmod recovery part of the bootloader. (eg. to replace HOST file for adblocking).
3. You need permanent r00t to install the clockworkmod (so i cannot do this).
4. You cannot remove default ROM apps from your phone without the clockworkmod.
5. You need clockworkmod to install custom ROMs.
So from what i gather.. r00t is good. though really only cause it gets you the clockworkmod recovery which is where you can really hack it.
And to get this i need to downgrade to 2.1, r00t, clockwork then use a hacked rom for 2.2?
Your help is greatly appreciated.
hi sage, i too came from windows mobile so i know how you feel, lucky for me i jumped on the android bandwagon earlier with the htc hero, after i got bored with my HD1, anyway your wrong on quite a few points, so i'll point you in the right direction.
1) the latest version of unrevoked (www.unrevoked.com/recovery) is more than able to root the froyo roms, its a one click app and can root your device in minutes
2) to easly modify system files you need s-off (this is equivalent to HSPL on wm devices) after you have rooted, you need to search for alpharev, this is a linux live cd, you just burn it and boot it and it will security unlock your device.
3) when you download and run unrevoked, it will not only root your device but insatall the latest version of clockworkmod recovery. (just hold vol down and power when your device is off to access hboot, and choose recovery from the list) so unrevoked kills 2 birds with one stone
4) to remove the apps in the /system/ partition there are 2 ways, from recovery using adb, or if you flash the s-off mod, you can remove them directly from your device using a file manager.
5) yes you need clockworkmod or another custom recovery to install custom roms, but now you know how to do it, thats not a problem
Hi Sage,
If you're looking for an easier way to get rid of all the Telstra apps (more like a blob of links really ) on your phone you may want to try one of the stock HTC WWE ROMs. It's clean and you can flash it via exe, just like in WM. The latest RUU I believe is the 2.29.405.2. Also, be aware of the risks of rooting your phone.
thanks for your response guys
Ok so i am now r00ted and running Leedroid's WWE ROM! (thank you!) it was actually pretty easy.
I think unrevoked was failing cause i was using a USB HUB.
OK so now i just want to remove some more of the default apps that come with it.
So i will try alpharev to security unlock my device. (is this permanent or if i reflash my rom it will come back?)
once i have done this i can then delete anything i like thru r00t explorer?
At this stage i am trying to just make some more room for apps. As a number of them wont move to SD Card.
A couple of last questions if i may. I have an new SD Card on order. Am i able to simply copy everything from my existing SD to my new and then swap it over in my phone and it will all be ok? Or do i need 'clone' it with some tool?
Where in the system paths do i remove 'shortcuts' within all apps? (or even simply rename them.)
Much appreciate your help. Android is growing on me. I especially love adb logcat!
ok.. i am now security off'd alpharev worked a treat.
i am now using r00t explorer to try and delete items from /system/app though they come up read-only so i cannot delete them
i take when i get to remove these the phone will have more stoage space for apps yeah?
i also still cannot find where the all apps shortcuts sit! (so i can rename/remove).
and lastly now i have the alpharev bootloader so gonna google how to change that
i did use the Leedroid apps2sd ROM. though most of my apps are still going to phone memory and i cant move them across.
Is there a fix for this? i guess once i work out how to delete these read-only files ill be ok anyway.
Unfortunately removing system apps wont give you more space to install apps, they are stored under a different partition, /system and /data are not on the same disk so you can save as much space on /system as you want but it won't affect /data at all.
With running out of space you have a few choices:
Go to settings..applications..then manage and move as many apps to SD as you can. This is fro-yo apps2sd, not all data is moved and not all apps can be moved, so you will probably run out of space again anyway.
Or
Reboot into recovery and partition your sdcard to create an ext partition, when you boot your rom ALL apps will be moved to the ext partition leaving lots of free space. Backup your sdcard before you partition it, you will lose all data.
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ok.. i am now security off'd alpharev worked a treat.
1) i am now using r00t explorer to try and delete items from /system/app though they come up read-only so i cannot delete them
2) i take when i get to remove these the phone will have more stoage space for apps yeah?
3) i also still cannot find where the all apps shortcuts sit! (so i can rename/remove).
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1) Press on Remount as R/O, this should allow you to delete/replace system stuff & ringtones, fonts...etc.
2)No, because apps install to data/apps & not system/apps.
3)You mean like the applicatiuon menu when we used to delete shortcuts or rename them? Hahaha man that was sooooooooooooo long time ago for me. Anyway, the applications installed are displayer & you can't hide them or rearrange them like Winmo. You might want to try Launcher Pro to hide apps in the apps drawer.
If you need more info, ask freely because 2 years ago I went through the same
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1) Press on Remount as R/O, this should allow you to delete/replace system stuff & ringtones, fonts...etc. Typo..You meant R/W
2)No, because apps install to data/apps & not system/apps.
3)You mean like the applicatiuon menu when we used to delete shortcuts or rename them? Hahaha man that was sooooooooooooo long time ago for me. Anyway, the applications installed are displayer & you can't hide them or rearrange them like Winmo. You might want to try Launcher Pro to hide apps in the apps drawer.
If you need more info, ask freely because 2 years ago I went through the same
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Hmm..actually the new MTD partition table hack should be able to free space on the /system, adjusting partitions with less for /system and /cache and more for /data/app should give enough space..Though I'm not sure if he wants to try this right now, since it's considered an advanced task and maybe he'd like to get more accustomed to Android before attempting it? His wish though..
And well, there's yet another method to remove system apps, other than the other two methods. This is to modify the zip file of the custom rom to remove the actual apks from /system and reflashing it on top of the actual flash..
droidzone said:
And well, there's yet another method to remove system apps, other than the other two methods. This is to modify the zip file of the custom rom to remove the actual apks from /system and reflashing it on top of the actual flash..
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Ohh yes indeed. OP, you can edit the zip before installing it to your device. You can remove/replace application in system/data and fonts...etc. Just remember to change signature verification to off in your recovery.
my god. i have spent days on this baby and im only barely scratching the surface
much appreciate all your help guys!
ok.. so its time to use app2sd i hear that app2sd+ is better though? (it moves more data to SD yeah? appcache?)
i only have 2Gb microsd right now so i might wait until i my 8GB arrives before i flash a new ROM and start again (again!)
i also noticed these online kitchens. http://cookmyrom.co.cc
which look great! tho they are still a version behind the leedroid i am using tho its a good way to get rid of some default apps.
i certainly like the idea of reparitioning the default disk though not quite ready for that yet especially when app2sd+ sounds much more straight forward.
i am dumbfounded that you cant remove 'shortcuts' from the All Apps! or even rename them!! my god. i would think that was first thing available on such an open source OS.
So i have now created a folder called "Folder" to reduce the clutter.. and now i guess i cant even rename it!?? and if i create another one its called "Folder" too!
lol.. this OS is so advanced yet some basic stuff seems to be overlooked.
I did try launcher pro though it removed my HTC Sense (which i like). So i might need to keep looking for an app to help organise my All Apps and my desktop (is desktop what its called?)
And just how do i add ringtones?
love your work guys thanks again.
Create a folder called Ringtones on the root of your SD to have...ringtones.
When you open a folder, long press on the header to rename it.
As for organizing, I stopped caring & started to use search, but maybe if you want you can try an app called folder organizer.
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Create a folder called Ringtones on the root of your SD to have...ringtones.
When you open a folder, long press on the header to rename it.
As for organizing, I stopped caring & started to use search, but maybe if you want you can try an app called folder organizer.
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nice one thank you!
Sage said:
...So i have now created a folder called "Folder" to reduce the clutter.. and now i guess i cant even rename it!??...
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Open the folder then hold where it says folder to change its name.
Ok. Now have app2sd working!
thanks to all of you. Beginning to love this android phone now. I feel sorry for all the people who use them as they come from the factory! Thank god for all the xda people who rip them to shreds and make them better
If i can have one last question. Any way to remap hardware buttons to start an app?
Like when you hold down the search button it launches Google Voice. I want it to launch a different app..
I did a search and found the hardware button remapper though it only does hardware to hardware.. not hardware to app
For Folders(Assuming you're using full HTC Sense), just open it and hold the title bar. Took me some time to figure out. You cannot easily rename the apps in "All apps", but you can remove them(Which is essentially uninstalling them) from Settings > Applications > Manage, unless they are system apps which need to be manually deleted either via S-OFF + Root explorer(OR something similar) or ADB + Custom recovery(Clockworkmod or Amon Ra).
For setting a custom ringtone, open the music app, select the music > Menu > Set as ringtone.
so no love on the hardware remap for apps?
Oh well i have done a lot of googling and it seems it cant be done (well at least not easily).
My last question is when you launch an app from a folder the folder stays open.. any way to force close or change its behaviour?
for those following this. I found the Tasker app remaps hardware buttons amongst doing amazing other things.
Still no love on closing folders though.
i ended up using tasker to create app widgets to replace the folders...
If you want app widgets, there's also "Desktop Visualizer".
In terms of killing of an app, have you tried "Settings -> apps settings -> development" then there's an option there for "stop apps via long press"?
Hi,
I just updated my desire with "official" 2.3.3 from HTC and i missing some space to install app (like most people using this phone...)
I don't want to flash a non-Sense rom as i like somes feature (contact list with FB integration for photos, agenda..). But i can reconsidere it if i don't find any solution to increase free space..
I don't want to virtually increase partition on sd, sometimes my sd mount as Read Only without warning, don't know if sd or sd reader on the phone is tired of life...
So i looked at app and what is using space: gmail update, flash update, map update, Market update... And i wonder if i can move these to system/app to replace the app shipped with the rom.. (A long time ago I already done something like this on nook by replacing vending.apk).
Is there a tutorial explaining this?
If possible, is there a list of apk's name? (Market = Vending.apk, Map = ???, Flash = ???)
If place is missing on rom partition (i see only 16mo is free) can i delete safely some app (i don't use (news app or footprint or stock exchange...).
Thank you!
You are not s-off or even rooted. So you cannot do this.
I s-off and rooted the phone to use titanium backup, so yes it is
I don't want to flash a non-Sense rom as i like somes feature (contact list with FB integration for photos, agenda..). But i can reconsidere it if i don't find any solution to increase free space..
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Strangely I had these features in Gingervillain and also in MIUI - and they are non-Sense ROMs. And for agenda - there are many free/paid widgets, which are better than the stock HTC one IMO.
I don't want to virtually increase partition on sd, sometimes my sd mount as Read Only without warning, don't know if sd or sd reader on the phone is tired of life...
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Well, if you don't have enough space in the system partition then you have no other options.
So i looked at app and what is using space: gmail update, flash update, map update, Market update... And i wonder if i can move these to system/app to replace the app shipped with the rom.. (A long time ago I already done something like this on nook by replacing vending.apk).
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Yes you can replace the files, use Root explorer (S-OFF, ROOT)
If possible, is there a list of apk's name? (Market = Vending.apk, Map = ???, Flash = ???)
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TI Backup gives you the name of the file if you click on the application.
Flash is com.adobe.flashplayer AFAIK.
If place is missing on rom partition (i see only 16mo is free) can i delete safely some app (i don't use (news app or footprint or stock exchange...).
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Yes, you can.
ok, i will do a backup and try this. I just would to be sure before doing this (thank's about ti backup tips
You know a place where i can have a list of safely deletable app?
Some apps are found here:
http://leedroid.com/bravo-wiki/guidelines-for-safe-removal-of-included-apps-apks
But it only worths deleting apps larger > 1 or 2 MB so I'd hit up each app in Google, to see if it is needed.
Last question, i just looked into system\app folder, some app like gmail come in 2 file "gmail.apk + gmail.odex".
How do i replace this?
Hi,
I just got my new SE Xperia Play phone and got it with android Gingerbread on it, I'm not completely familiar with this OS but following information that I've read I rooted my phone and it is working fine, I did this cause I read that by doing this I would be able to remove and add apps to my phone as I became a Super User on the Linux side of it. Now my questions is, How can I do this? I've tried to find like an step by step add and remove apps on my phone with no luck. Also I'd like to get some information on what can I do and what I can't (or shouldn't do) with my super user rights ( i found this but not sure how to add this titanium backup on my phone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046699).
All help will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Btts.
you can delete any apps including system apps by using TITANIUM BACKUP.
once you've installed it and run it click on the backup/restore tab at the top then select whatever app you want to remove (system apps inluded) click that app and there will be an uninstall option.
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU DELETE!
Hope this helps
You have to download Titanium Backup from the market
oh ok I get it, so it is available through the android market.. now that is for the Uninstall stuff part (thanks to both) now in order to get stuff installed into the phone is it there an option for that or can I do it using the linux terminal that is installed on the phone?
Thanks for all the help
OK, I have been where you are, and maybe this VERY brief summary will get you started.
1. Root - you did that.
2. Download and install the CWM for locked bootloaders from this link here.
3. Follow the instructions to power off, then power on and press down on the Volume Down key to enter the recovery mode. Then go to the Backup/Restore menu and backup the phone. This creates a Nandroid, or image of the phone so you can put it back to rooted stock if you mess something up.
4. Download and install Titanium Backup from the App Market. You can use this to uninstall any bloatware, including System files, but use with caution so you won't need to use your Nandroid! There is a safe list thread here that will give you some help in what you can remove.
5. Apps for Android usually come from the Android Market, or another market that hosts Android apps like Amazon AppMarket, etc. So any program you want to install will generally need to come from there. (Yes, I know there are some apps around that some Joe Ubertech wrote, but in general, you will want to get apps from the Market or a Vendor site, like Gameloft or EA.)
6. Use an App2SD program to move as many apps to your SD Card as are able to go. This frees up internal storage so you can run smoothly and have a lot of apps too. I like Droidsail Super App2SD (ROOT) because it lets you select a group of apps at one time to move. Do NOT move to SD any app that is accessed through a widget, or any replacement launcher program.
7. Be aware that Programs marked as System files cannot be moved to SD. However, some of them, like the preinstalled games, GMail, Youtube, etc, are also found in the Market. You can either delete them and reinstall them from the Market, or use a program like Root Explorer to manually move these to a folder on the SD card. Then reboot your phone, and you can reinstall them as user apps and be able to move them to SD as well.
8. Read. Read, read, read, READ everything you can get your hands on here in xda. It has been the best source of info for the Xperia Play.
I hope this helps you get going. Have fun, and if you run into trouble, someone here will usually be able to help you get going again.
Cheers!
netizenmt said:
OK, I have been where you are, and maybe this VERY brief summary will get you started.
1. Root - you did that.
2. Download and install the CWM for locked bootloaders from this link here.
3. Follow the instructions to power off, then power on and press down on the Volume Down key to enter the recovery mode. Then go to the Backup/Restore menu and backup the phone. This creates a Nandroid, or image of the phone so you can put it back to rooted stock if you mess something up.
4. Download and install Titanium Backup from the App Market. You can use this to uninstall any bloatware, including System files, but use with caution so you won't need to use your Nandroid! There is a safe list thread here that will give you some help in what you can remove.
5. Apps for Android usually come from the Android Market, or another market that hosts Android apps like Amazon AppMarket, etc. So any program you want to install will generally need to come from there. (Yes, I know there are some apps around that some Joe Ubertech wrote, but in general, you will want to get apps from the Market or a Vendor site, like Gameloft or EA.)
6. Use an App2SD program to move as many apps to your SD Card as are able to go. This frees up internal storage so you can run smoothly and have a lot of apps too. I like Droidsail Super App2SD (ROOT) because it lets you select a group of apps at one time to move. Do NOT move to SD any app that is accessed through a widget, or any replacement launcher program.
7. Be aware that Programs marked as System files cannot be moved to SD. However, some of them, like the preinstalled games, GMail, Youtube, etc, are also found in the Market. You can either delete them and reinstall them from the Market, or use a program like Root Explorer to manually move these to a folder on the SD card. Then reboot your phone, and you can reinstall them as user apps and be able to move them to SD as well.
8. Read. Read, read, read, READ everything you can get your hands on here in xda. It has been the best source of info for the Xperia Play.
I hope this helps you get going. Have fun, and if you run into trouble, someone here will usually be able to help you get going again.
Cheers!
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awesome thanks for the information
Also, grab KeiranFTW's tweak package in the dev forum. Best thing you could do to your phone.
Sent from my R800x using xda premium
Trygon said:
Also, grab KeiranFTW's tweak package in the dev forum. Best thing you could do to your phone.
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here's the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385236
University of Pi said:
here's the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385236
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thanks for the info guys, now I'm working on my other phone the Xperia Arc ^^, if a moderator wants to close this thread is alright
thanks to all
How do we set up our devices exactly how we like with the apps we like and customised settings for each app.... and then save them all onto the SD card so we can then flash in another flavour of ROM to try out and simply add our saved apps all set up and ready to go....?
It takes forever to re-set all my apps i like to use.... and as I'm hopefully going to have MultiROM working asap I would hope that I can simply flash in a ROM to try and 'add' all my apps to it with with one click but importantly with all their settings exactly how I use them.
I agree. Maybe you could try the Titanium Backup donate version. I think it has a "Create zip" option. I just can't comment further as I've never used it.
Not sent by me.
i use APK Organize
Works fine for me...
Just be sure you have your phone rooted and in debug mode...
use the "Backup / Restore" function and choose app + data
Bernsi said:
i use APK Organize
Works fine for me...
Just be sure you have your phone rooted and in debug mode...
use the "Backup / Restore" function and choose app + data
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Thanks for that.... looks worth having
however... I've now discovered that I lost the original full root access I had on KK when i installed CM12 and I'm gonna guess that full root access is tied in to the kernel and of course Android 5.x.x is built on a different kernel and therefore needs re-rooting....? CyanogenMod grants App and ADB root via menu in developer options but that is obviously a limited root access and not enough for APK Organise...?
When i try the APK organise it denies me the backup saying 'No root access'.... which surprised me initially.
I can't seem to find a working root-tool for Android 5.1.1. which is what I'm currently on in CM12.1.... anyone know where I can find please as this APK organise looks like a very useful tool to have working from within Windows and makes it easy to keep the backups on my laptop harddrive instead of the sd card
Use zipme available on playstore.
It makes zip flashable with apk data and also settins if selected ....
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When i try the APK organise it denies me the backup saying 'No root access'.... which surprised me initially.
I can't seem to find a working root-tool for Android 5.1.1. which is what I'm currently on in CM12.1.... anyone know where I can find please as this APK organise looks like a very useful tool to have working from within Windows and makes it easy to keep the backups on my laptop harddrive instead of the sd card
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You don't need to root CM, simply enable root access in the developer options.
Apart from that, I've been using Titanium Backup pro for years and I'm very happy with it.
Edit: sry, I didn't see the upper half of your post. Anyway, the CM root access is enough for TitaniumBackup. Maybe it's the app that has to be updated for lollipop, I remember TitaniumBackup had some issues in the first days of lollipop, too.
Winb33 said:
Use zipme available on playstore.
It makes zip flashable with apk data and also settins if selected ....
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As luckyrumo points out these apps 'APK Organise' and the 'ZipMe' you recommend may well need updating to work with Android 5..... ZipMe hasn't been touched since 2013 according to the 'last updated' info.
I have Titanium Backup free version and tried using the backup app + data in batch prefs menu prior to having to do a wipe and clean install of CM12.... but when I reinstalled the Titanium backup app it failed to show the backups that were made previously and supposedly stored on my sd card along with everything else that has never been affected on the sd card. during ROM installations and associated full wipes... I think the backup disappeared when the app was wiped... I can't think of any other logical explanation....? I wonder if the paid version makes a difference...?
One particular app I use is Call Meter 3G which keeps track of my available contract free minutes by way of progress bar homescreen widget tracking any given monthly period and of course it does so by logging all my calls,messages and data use (tho I get unlimited data on my plan so that is not important). Because of the sheer volume and complexity of all the settings to get this app customised to work with my carrier plan it's a pain to have to set-it all up again when re-installing apps after flashing a custom ROM... and without the call logs you will always be starting part way thru a month so it won't be accurate until the bill cycles and a new month begins.
If I can get MultiROM working (no luck so far) having a one click install for apps and customised settings will make life much easier as I plan to try out ALL available ROM's alongside my primary. I only have one device at this stage so MultiROM is a no brainer for me... If I could just get it to install !!!!!
Nick
i also on CM 12.1 Lollipop 5.1.1... (Weekly 5 - JustArchi)
and i restored the apps + data (whatsapp + messages etc.) from CM 11 to CM 12.1 with no problems...
as i installed CM 12.1 in CWM, at restart system, i was asked for fixing root... i have choosen "yes"
for APK Organize choose root access for apps + adb in developer options and activate debug mode. should work, worked for me...