LED notification - different on White/Grey versions? - HTC One X

I'm now on my 3rd unlocked European One X for one reason or another - the white one's LED was just right - I could clearly see from a distance if it was charging or flashing. The two grey ones I've had both had barely visible LEDs, which I can't see when the phone isn't right in front of me or when it's at an angle. Is this a problem with some of the phones in gereral or is it just an issue with the grey model? Cheers.

Your 2 grey phones may have been defective, but in general white surfaces reflect more light than black/grey surfaces. This could have made it appear as though the lights were of differing brightnesses, or just that the white phone reflects more of the led's light.

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pingu01 said:
I'm now on my 3rd unlocked European One X for one reason or another - the white one's LED was just right - I could clearly see from a distance if it was charging or flashing. The two grey ones I've had both had barely visible LEDs, which I can't see when the phone isn't right in front of me or when it's at an angle. Is this a problem with some of the phones in gereral or is it just an issue with the grey model? Cheers.
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My grey one is just the same regarding the LED, it's a pixel sized flash as it is shining through one of the "precision" drilled ear speaker holes, so you have to be almost looking directly down on it to see it, certainly in normal lighting conditions.
I expect the white is just a bit more translucent so you see a bigger area of light.
It is one of those silly design decisions that HTC seem to make sometimes! The LED should be behind the glass at the top right where the border is, in the same way the other sits the light sensor. I've always assumed it was last minute rushed job to add an LED, and as after thought they just had to place it where they could that didn't mean reworking the phones design.
Some phones don't have LEDs at all. I'm not sure why a notification LED has fallen out of fashion, I find it really useful, for example I leave my desk to make a drink or see someone or for a comfort break, then arrive back to my desk, a quick look down at my phone I know nothing arrived while I was away and it saves turning the screen on to check.
Regards
Phil

rob9 said:
Your 2 grey phones may have been defective, but in general white surfaces reflect more light than black/grey surfaces. This could have made it appear as though the lights were of differing brightnesses, or just that the white phone reflects more of the led's light.
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It must be a defect which happens to be on the 2 grey phones then because the difference is huge - one is barely visible and the other I can easily see from across the room (it's probably 30 or so times brighter). Hopefully my 4th One X, which is on its way, will be ok (the white one with the good LED has the wifi problem so that's going back).

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Backlight bleed / uniformity issues

I have noticed some slight flaws with my HTC One X
Firstly, when the backlight is on maximum (which happens when you first boot-up the phone) and shows a black screen, I can see some backlight bleeding at the bottom. It looks a bit greenish in one corner and also a bit further along the bottom.
Also, on a full white screen, the bottom is a bit more yellow than the rest of the image. This can be seen on the mail application (or gmail) for example.
I noticed that my applying slight pressure to the casing, that I can reduce the backlight bleed a bit. It also seems to reducing after a few heat-up / cool-down cycles. However the slight uniformity issue from top to bottom doesn't seem to be changing.
Has anyone else noticed this? I must emphasise it is slight, and that the backlight bleed is near invisible if the display is on auto-brightness and you are in a normally lit room.
jonstatt said:
I have noticed some slight flaws with my HTC One X
Firstly, when the backlight is on maximum (which happens when you first boot-up the phone) and shows a black screen, I can see some backlight bleeding at the bottom. It looks a bit greenish in one corner and also a bit further along the bottom.
Also, on a full white screen, the bottom is a bit more yellow than the rest of the image. This can be seen on the mail application (or gmail) for example.
I noticed that my applying slight pressure to the casing, that I can reduce the backlight bleed a bit. It also seems to reducing after a few heat-up / cool-down cycles. However the slight uniformity issue from top to bottom doesn't seem to be changing.
Has anyone else noticed this? I must emphasise it is slight, and that the backlight bleed is near invisible if the display is on auto-brightness and you are in a normally lit room.
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Dude the below backlight bleeding is from the LEDs of the buttons
Same thing with DHD and O2X...
xmoo said:
Dude the below backlight bleeding is from the LEDs of the buttons
Same thing with DHD and O2X...
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Yeah I have seen what you mean in previous handsets. But in this case it really is the screen. When you boot the phone up, it goes black on full brightness for a few seconds without the LEDs for the buttons
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Yeah I have seen what you mean in previous handsets. But in this case it really is the screen. When you boot the phone up, it goes black on full brightness for a few seconds without the LEDs for the buttons
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I checked it with a pure black background, same I used for my Galaxy S2.
I had 3 spots below, and when the leds went out I had no spots at all.
I have now checked 3 other HTC One X handsets, and they are all practically identical in terms of uniformity on an all white screen. They are all more yellow towards the bottom of the screen. That doesn't mean every One X handset is like that, but clearly there isn't much point in me swapping it out.
Funnily enough I also had that with the Evo 3D handset as well although it was even more obvious on that one.
These kinds of imperfections seems a price of having a laminated screen ie: glue, iPhone4/4s and iPad3 have similar habbits
Mine has about 6 tiny little lights on the bottom of the display...this is not normal. At least I hope not. They are always on so they can't be related to he touch button?
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Firstly, when the backlight is on maximum (which happens when you first boot-up the phone) and shows a black screen
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Do you have a carrier phone? When mine boots up it's 10K lumens of white to the point it'll clearly light up a dark room. That and the HTC strum at max volume drive me crazy. Never reboot your phone in a crowd unless you want to be stared at.
Plh36 said:
Mine has about 6 tiny little lights on the bottom of the display...this is not normal. At least I hope not. They are always on so they can't be related to he touch button?
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Same here...walked out of the store and right back in...second phone has same problem but screen is better overall...really annoying seeing those lights at the bottom of the screen though...it is only noticeable on lighter color screens...
Anyone else got this??
jonstatt said:
I have noticed some slight flaws with my HTC One X......
Also, on a full white screen, the bottom is a bit more yellow than the rest of the image. This can be seen on the mail application (or gmail) for example.
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I also have this issue. Is this normal, or do most One X's not have this problem/issue/feature?

Notification LED dim on Grey model

Hi,
I got a grey One X last week and while fairly happy with the phone I thought the notification LED was pretty dim. Unless I look at the phone flat on I can't see it is on. I accepted this was to do with the LED being placed within the speaker grill; however a friend got a White version a few days later and the LED on his is about 3 times brighter.
A few videos I have seen show the Grey phone has a very dim light, would post them but can't link unfortunately.
Search this text on youtube for video example
HTC One X videopreview da Hitechworldita.net
Has anyone else noticed this or is this an issue with my phone?
Bobbeh84 said:
Hi,
I got a grey One X last week and while fairly happy with the phone I thought the notification LED was pretty dim. Unless I look at the phone flat on I can't see it is on. I accepted this was to do with the LED being placed within the speaker grill; however a friend got a White version a few days later and the LED on his is about 3 times brighter.
A few videos I have seen show the Grey phone has a very dim light, would post them but can't link unfortunately.
Search this text on youtube for video example
HTC One X videopreview da Hitechworldita.net
Has anyone else noticed this or is this an issue with my phone?
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I think that is simply because with the white casing, the light is able to shine through the white casing itself. Whereas obviously with the darker casing, it is truly confined to the tiny little hole of the earpiece. I do get the feeling that HTC designed the white one first
Yeah maybe, but comparing the two side by side, it looks as though his LED is a different type entirely. Looking at the LED straight on should negate the case colour and in that scenario his white version is still far brighter.
As long as other people think the grey one is dim there is no reason to send mine back.
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Yeah maybe, but comparing the two side by side, it looks as though his LED is a different type entirely. Looking at the LED straight on should negate the case colour and in that scenario his white version is still far brighter.
As long as other people think the grey one is dim there is no reason to send mine back.
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It was one of the first things I noticed when I held a grey one. So I don't think it is faulty. But just like most things, LEDs do vary from unit to unit in brightness.
i haven't seen a grey one, but with my 2nd white replacement, the charging led was stupidly dim. now im on the 3rd replacement, the same led is much much brighter. leads me to believe it was positioned incorrectly, or just a crap led.
quality control really sucks atm.

[Q] Only two notification light colours, red and green?

Simple question guys: My phone only shows red or green for notifications - is there no orange on this bad boy? I came from G1/Wildfire so I'm used to there being an orange in between...
NEUR0M4NCER said:
Simple question guys: My phone only shows red or green for notifications - is there no orange on this bad boy? I came from G1/Wildfire so I'm used to there being an orange in between...
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Well there are two led colors, red and green. I think when both are on orange happens
By default green is set for fully charged/90%+
orange is charging
red is low battery
I can't find an orange option in whatsapp so maybe you can't set orange for notifications. On trying colors other than green or red I still get red.
Orange isn't charging. There is only red and green
Red flashing - low battery
Red solid - charging
Green flashing - notification
Green solid - >90% battery on charge
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Cheers guys.
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Hi
It is a bi-colour LED which seems to be an after thought given it sits behind the ear piece grill and on the grey phones is just a tiny point of light you can only see looking head on to the phone.
There are two types of bi-colour LED, one has 2 connections, the other has 3. A bi-colour LED with 3 pins allows both LEDs to be lit independently, giving Red, Green and Red + Green for Orange. A 2 pin LED will light Red when the current flows one way, and Green when it flows the other, meaning you can only have Green or Red and no mixture. Given there is no orange in use now I suspect the LED is a simple 2 pin affair, so there will be no way it can ever display Orange.
Regards
Phil
PhilipL said:
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It is a bi-colour LED which seems to be an after thought given it sits behind the ear piece grill and on the grey phones is just a tiny point of light you can only see looking head on to the phone.
There are two types of bi-colour LED, one has 2 connections, the other has 3. A bi-colour LED with 3 pins allows both LEDs to be lit independently, giving Red, Green and Red + Green for Orange. A 2 pin LED will light Red when the current flows one way, and Green when it flows the other, meaning you can only have Green or Red and no mixture. Given there is no orange in use now I suspect the LED is a simple 2 pin affair, so there will be no way it can ever display Orange.
Regards
Phil
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Your LED has the same problem that my two returned grey ones had - the white model I have has a far more visible LED - I can see it clearly from a distance and also when it's at a near 90 degree angle.
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pingu01 said:
Your LED has the same problem that my two returned grey ones had - the white model I have has a far more visible LED - I can see it clearly from a distance and also when it's at a near 90 degree angle.
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That is because the white plastic allows more light through, but I don't want a white phone as it isn't my preference so I'm living with it, it isn't that big a deal for me personally, certainly not enough for me to sacrifice my preference for the grey phone.
Regards
Phil
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That is because the white plastic allows more light through, but I don't want a white phone as it isn't my preference so I'm living with it, it isn't that big a deal for me personally, certainly not enough for me to sacrifice my preference for the grey phone.
Regards
Phil
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I guess that makes sense - what a bad design flaw as the dark model just lights up the size of the tiny pinhole and the white one creates a light around the size of a circle drawn around four of the pinholes. If I'm spending over £400 I'd rather have one that I can see the notifications so glad my replacement is going to be a white one. Hopefully the wifi on this one will be ok.
PhilipL said:
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That is because the white plastic allows more light through, but I don't want a white phone as it isn't my preference so I'm living with it, it isn't that big a deal for me personally, certainly not enough for me to sacrifice my preference for the grey phone.
Regards
Phil
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I have a black model and mine is silimilar to what the other members white phone. I can see it at different angles and from a distance and in a darkened area it's bright with a quarter inch halo around it.
My black one doesn't show much light, just a pin prick. It's bright enough to be seen as long as it's not in sunlight though.
My Sensation's LED was easier to see, i dunno if it was a bigger LED, or the silver grille just allowed more through.
bagofcrap24 said:
Orange isn't charging. There is only red and green
Red flashing - low battery
Red solid - charging
Green flashing - notification
Green solid - >90% battery on charge
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Red and green flashing alternately quickly, you phones too dam hot
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PhilipL said:
Hi
It is a bi-colour LED which seems to be an after thought given it sits behind the ear piece grill and on the grey phones is just a tiny point of light you can only see looking head on to the phone.
There are two types of bi-colour LED, one has 2 connections, the other has 3. A bi-colour LED with 3 pins allows both LEDs to be lit independently, giving Red, Green and Red + Green for Orange. A 2 pin LED will light Red when the current flows one way, and Green when it flows the other, meaning you can only have Green or Red and no mixture. Given there is no orange in use now I suspect the LED is a simple 2 pin affair, so there will be no way it can ever display Orange.
Regards
Phil
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I'm not the only guy who sees orange xD
Orange - Charging

Camera flash bulb is now yellow?

I've never dropped this phone on the ground or in water but last night I've noticed the flashlight wasn't as bright as before,so I looked @ the flash and the top flash bulb is blue and the bottom one is yellow. Should I be concerned?
the two colored bulbs are supposed to produce a full spectrum light.
No reason to be concerned unless 1 is dead.
Andrewbud said:
the two colored bulbs are supposed to produce a full spectrum light.
No reason to be concerned unless 1 is dead.
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So my issue is normal?
Yes its very normal. The m9 has 2 leds, one white and one yellow.
I wish I stole my HTC M9.

Bad "backlight" uniformity?

Hi all,
Had my Pixel for a few days now and noticed what I thought was a new gradient in the background of posts in the XDA labs app, I checked the screen using one of the grey test colours and found that I'm getting a dark cloud over the bottom right hand side of my screen. I tried taking a photo with my old phone (Moto X Pure) but the camera isn't good enough at low light for it to show up, I'll try and get a photo with my DSLR when I'm back from work later today. In the mean time some quick googling has shown it's very similar to the "Dirty Screen Effect" described here: http://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/picture-quality/gray-uniformity-dirty-screen-effect-dse
Had anyone else noticed this? Do you think Google would RMA it? I've not really been bothered by the blue shift on my device so I'm slightly concerned that I might end up with a worse replacement if I do send it back
Cheers
Michael
It's a tough call, you have to ask yourself if you can live with it or not. Does it show up a lot during normal usage? Or is it just with the XDA labs app and similar applications in a low light setting with your brightness turned to like 0-10%? Or if you can see it at all times regardless of brightness settings you can contact Google tell them of the screen issue and get a RMA. Check out the replacement and compare the blue shift to your current and see if it also has the same issue as your current device. If it's better in both regards send it back, if the blue shift is a bit worse on the one and you can tolerate it and it doesn't have the bad back light uniformity you could keep it. That's what I would do personally, best of luck!
Yes, I have a similar issue. My first device had severe blue tint at any angle and Google would not replace so I returned and and reordered. The second device had only slight blue tint and is not an issue but of course has the uneven grays. The right side of the screen is much darker and there is also a dark spot around the sim tray area on the left side. I sent Google pictures and they are sending a replacement. It's only noticable in low light, looks fine at higher brightness though.
Ah I didn't realize they sent you the replacement first. That makes it a much easier decision. I'll still try and add a photo of it in the OP later today but RMA seems like the best choice. It's noticeable at lower backlight brightness and since it's winter here in the UK now the auto-brightness often drops it down to a level where it is noticeable just in normal daily use.
I get a VERY slight hint of that on a dark gray background at 5-7% brightness in a totally dark room but other than that very specific condition it's uniform otherwise.
The photo as promised unedited straight out of the camera (USB C OTG is neat). It's not quite this bad in person, if you imagine the light grey is the same shade as the dark grey in this image and the dark grey as being almost black then you get the idea, but it does show the difference between the two and it is clearly visible with the naked eye in a dark room.
The grey image I'm using is here: https://i1.wp.com/ausdroid.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/screenshot_20171022-153201.png?ssl=1
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The photo as promised unedited straight out of the camera (USB C OTG is neat). It's not quite this bad in person, if you imagine the light grey is the same shade as the dark grey in this image and the dark grey as being almost black then you get the idea, but it does show the difference between the two and it is clearly visible with the naked eye in a dark room.
The grey image I'm using is here: https://i1.wp.com/ausdroid.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/screenshot_20171022-153201.png?ssl=1
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Woah! Holy crap that's pretty bad. I would RMA that bad boy right away.

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