[INFO] Sudden battery drain with marginal or no mobile signal - HTC One X

Hi
This has happened a few times now when my phone is in a place with barely and quite often no mobile signal, always the same place, same building that is in a bit of black spot. On coming back to the phone after an hour or so I've lost 40-50% of battery power, and of course the phone is warm because of the more rapid drain of power. It is the warm phone that alerts me that I've probably had a massive battery drain event again, turning on the phone shows no service, the service comes back fine as I walk away from the building. This rapid drain event never happens elsewhere, but then normally I'm getting a decent signal everywhere else.
The battery chart shows the drain clearly, and as soon as the phone is back in a decent signal area the drain immediately stops and is back to normal battery usage apart from having lost half of its power.
The battery usage shows the phone was hardly sleeping for the duration of time in the low/no signal area, presumably kept awake by the radio chip constantly reporting no signal or something like that.
I'm using the stock ROM in Europe on Vodafone, software version 1.29.401.11.
Surely it isn't normal for the radio chip to cause so much battery drain in a no/low signal area, where is it trying to reach for a signal, Mars? :cyclops: My other smart phones same carrier in the same place with the same no signal situation were absolutely fine and didn't do this.
Interestingly the cell power usage percentage doesn't increase for this problem, so while the cell power usage is half the battery when this event occurs, this doesn't register in the cell power usage percentage, or anywhere else for that matter, just the overall chart takes a dive down.
Perhaps this issue explains variable battery life some are experiencing if they are in or travel through areas of poor or no mobile signal. Something isn't quite right with the way the radio is dealing with this situation, hopefully fixed in the next update.
Regards
Phil

Same thing is happening with my 1X. I'm working in such a building too for the last couple of weeks, it's very annoying.
I'm also on Vodafone from the Netherlands
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On Vodafone in the UK and also get bad drain when signal is poor. Signal does affect battery drain though.

Same when the phone is resting in a low wifi signal with wifi on: massive battery drain in that case. Extremely annoying!

Hi
I've updated my One X with the newest RUU that contains the latest radio 2.120, this is a stock ROM for European unbranded phones and installs without needing a rooted phone.
This radio was pushed to some places in Europe last week I believe but we haven't had it in the UK.
I'll see how it goes, but it is very annoying and certainly not right for a low/no signal to drain the phone so quickly.
Regards
Phil

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Battery Life

As someone who is very happy with the battery life of my Tilt2, I have spent
the weekend in an area where 3G is not available and was wondering if all the
reports of poor battery life are the result of being in an "edge" area and the phone constantly searching for a 3G signal?
When I hit the sack at night in a 3G area, battery 100%, weather checking every 30-45 minutes, in the morning, it might drop to 98 or 99%, but the last
two mornings, in an edge area, the battery is down to 65-70%.
Like I said, I never worry about battery life, since most of the time I'm in a 3g(H) area, but wouldn't turning off the 3G radio extend battery life?
p51d007 said:
As someone who is very happy with the battery life of my Tilt2, I have spent
the weekend in an area where 3G is not available and was wondering if all the
reports of poor battery life are the result of being in an "edge" area and the phone constantly searching for a 3G signal?
When I hit the sack at night in a 3G area, battery 100%, weather checking every 30-45 minutes, in the morning, it might drop to 98 or 99%, but the last
two mornings, in an edge area, the battery is down to 65-70%.
Like I said, I never worry about battery life, since most of the time I'm in a 3g(H) area, but wouldn't turning off the 3G radio extend battery life?
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Yes, indeed. If you turn off 3G you get better battery life.

Problem With Battery

Hey guys, I just got the droid incredible 2 and I first had the LG revolution but the 4g and the screen size made the battery drop down quick. I played with it for 20 minutes after it being fully charged, changing settings, and the battery went way down to about 80%. So I exchanged it for the HTC Incredible 2. They told me the batter was way better.
I went to the Verizon store to tell them the batter dowesn't last as long as expected. My Iphone 4 would be on all day, texting, pandora, email and web browsing and I still came home from work with battery left. My droid gets used from 7am to 1pm and its pretty much dead by then. They made me change the background data off, sync only email and weather, and download juice defender.
The batter still dies by 12:30pm after charging all night.
I have read all over people are getting excellent battery usage but I don't really know what to do to get the same. It is not temp rooted. Any ideas? Also, at work, in the building the data coverage is not so good so I usually do nothing but text on it and it still dies by 1pm.
I can't really say how well mine would do on the standard battery because I bought the extended battery immediately after getting the phone. I've been unplugged almost 15 hours and have 38% battery and I have sent/recieved 40-50 txts, 20 mins phone, browsed internet for 30-45 mins, played games around 30 mins, and listened to pandora for around 45 mins.
I would recommend the extended battery, it's $50 at verizon and I haven't even come close to killing it in a day.
Does the extended battery make the phone bigger? I'm thinking it would be thicker on the back. Would it have any drawbacks as to cases and stuff like that?
I'm not sure why mine is so bad, prolly because I am in a secure building and signal doesn't get through constantly. I'm surprised, I thought my iphone had bad battery.
the extended battery does have a thicker back. and yes, there are currently no cases for it, so there would be an issue there if having a case is very important.
as to your current battery, if your in a biulding with bad signal, that will most defintiely affect your battery life as your phone will have to use more battery to try to find a good signal. additionally though, the phone battery does seem to improve after about a week of charge/discharge cycles. not sure why this is, but i have seen it on my phone and seen many other report the same.
The battery sticks out a little more than 1/8th of an inch I would say. However, IMHO it protects the camera lens and flash lens from getting broken and I never really like using a case anyways.
I have amazing battery i charge it to 100 percent unplugged after then go to school texting 100-200 average everyday internet music by the time i get 3:00 i still have 80-70% and i'm 13 so imagine how much i use it and it still stays at that percentage
Having a phone in a building (or anywhere) the signal is weak is a drain on your battery. If your iPhone was with AT&T the signal may have been stronger where you work than with Verizon and may have therefore contributed to better battery life.
Also, if you didn't FULLY charge your DInc2 and FULLY discharge it right when you got it, you should really do a factory reset and immediately do the following:
Charge the phone for at least 8hrs with the power off, unplug for a few minutes, plug it back in. The light should only remain red for 10-20 seconds before turning green, otherwise this unplug-plug part should be repeated a few more times always letting it remain on "green" for an hour before unplugging an plugging back in.
THEN power up and use the phone until it shuts itself off because the battery is drained. Let it sit for a few minutes, and turn it on again. It should sut itself off again pretty quick. Let it sit, turn on again. Do this until it wont power up at all after sitting untouched for a few minutes and your battery is then fully discharged.
Now you can plug it in and start the charge part of the cycle as lined out earlier. Once the light turns green 10-20 sec after plugging it in again you have completed one "cycle".
This may sound excessive, but I'm kind of a nut about this kind of thing.
I didn't do anything special when I got my I2, am a realtively heavy user, and have an all day battery life. I'm pretty careless with my features being left on.
If you can't get it to last all day, either you are a much heavier user than I am or you do, in fact, either have a battery problem, or a battery calibration problem. You shouldn't need to calibrate the battery algorithms, but I guess it doesn't hurt to try.
I wouldn't say I am a heavy user. I normally text while I am at work and check facebook a few times. I also listen to pandora most times. I work for Vanguard and most people here have Verizon I believe. I was told when I switched from AT&T that signal should not be a problem where I am at. My Iphone 4 would get used much more and it too would have signal problems as well until I turned 3g off but it would last way longer than the droid.
I guess I can try the factory reset and full charge cycle this weekend but I'm not sure what Verizon can do for me either so it may just stay like this
this is bump charging no? (well the part about how to charge it). i spoke to am htc rep that said that bump charging will significantly decrease the lifespan of your battery life and therefore is highly not recommended.
TheAtheistReverend said:
Having a phone in a building (or anywhere) the signal is weak is a drain on your battery. If your iPhone was with AT&T the signal may have been stronger where you work than with Verizon and may have therefore contributed to better battery life.
Also, if you didn't FULLY charge your DInc2 and FULLY discharge it right when you got it, you should really do a factory reset and immediately do the following:
Charge the phone for at least 8hrs with the power off, unplug for a few minutes, plug it back in. The light should only remain red for 10-20 seconds before turning green, otherwise this unplug-plug part should be repeated a few more times always letting it remain on "green" for an hour before unplugging an plugging back in.
THEN power up and use the phone until it shuts itself off because the battery is drained. Let it sit for a few minutes, and turn it on again. It should sut itself off again pretty quick. Let it sit, turn on again. Do this until it wont power up at all after sitting untouched for a few minutes and your battery is then fully discharged.
Now you can plug it in and start the charge part of the cycle as lined out earlier. Once the light turns green 10-20 sec after plugging it in again you have completed one "cycle".
This may sound excessive, but I'm kind of a nut about this kind of thing.
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I just got mine on Sunday, but even yesterday I was texting and surfing a fair amount yesterday and went to bed with the phone at 61%...
I am sort of amazed, I think Verizon has taken the underclocking thing and put it to work on the official release... at one point I turned off the screen for what amounted to an hour and when i turned it back on it was still the same battery level.
selayan said:
I wouldn't say I am a heavy user. I normally text while I am at work and check facebook a few times. I also listen to pandora most times. I work for Vanguard and most people here have Verizon I believe. I was told when I switched from AT&T that signal should not be a problem where I am at. My Iphone 4 would get used much more and it too would have signal problems as well until I turned 3g off but it would last way longer than the droid.
I guess I can try the factory reset and full charge cycle this weekend but I'm not sure what Verizon can do for me either so it may just stay like this
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if your comparing battery life on the dinc2 with 3G on versus the iphone with 3G off there will also be a pretty big difference. if your tuirn off 3G on your dinc2, i would imagine battery life will be similar or better than your iphone had with 3G off also.
bik2101 said:
if your comparing battery life on the dinc2 with 3G on versus the iphone with 3G off there will also be a pretty big difference. if your tuirn off 3G on your dinc2, i would imagine battery life will be similar or better than your iphone had with 3G off also.
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No I was comparing the Inc 2 to the Iphone with 3G on. My iphone would also last longer if I turned 3g off and just used Edge or whatever it is called. I don't think I can do this with the droid until it is rooted or download an app to do this.
I turned off juice defender and we will see how it goes today. I don't really like apps running in the background and it was turning off data eacht ime the screen locked.
I think the biggest difference is the verizon signal. The battery on this phone is amazing for an android device. While it is still nowhere near iphone 4 status as far as battery, it shouldn't drain like that. Have them either swap you a battery or the phone itself.
I'm a relatively heavy user. Especially with voice calls and I can go a day and a half easy.
But I also run launched pro with only a couple of widgets. To me sense is a battery hog.
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What would I do to go about swapping out the battery or the phone itself? Should I go back to the same verizon store? Or call them on the support line and try to get a battery or new phone that way? I have no clue why it is draining like that either, the signal can't be that bad, I literally had the same signal with AT&T in these buildings.
Well, lets be honest, one of the things Apple really puts a lot of time and effort into in their development is long battery life. It wouldn't surprise me to see the iphone outlasting most Android devices.
In any case...
While I don't need to, I do charge my phone while at the office. If you have a desk job then I don't see how this would be problematic. My work day usage includes 2 hours of bluetooth streaming (in my car to the stereo), media playback (music/podcast), and mapping with gps and 3g data (this drains my battery pretty quickly, but that's relative...it's about 15% per hour). Outside of that, my battery drain is quite low.
I only started charging at the office because I like to keep my battery as full as possible in case of extended emergency that requires being away from a charging source. It's that whole boy scout be prepared mentality I have. Besides, if you have the opportunity to charge, why not? It seems to charge pretty quick anyway.
I can charge at the office, but normally I forget the cord at home. Not a problem to buy another one but still. I was just concerned because I hear people getting 15 some hours on one charge and as of right now, my battery is below 50% since I just got back from lunch.
selayan said:
What would I do to go about swapping out the battery or the phone itself? Should I go back to the same verizon store? Or call them on the support line and try to get a battery or new phone that way? I have no clue why it is draining like that either, the signal can't be that bad, I literally had the same signal with AT&T in these buildings.
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take it back to the store, and if that doesn't work then call. but the store would probably be a better bet as they can give you a new phone or new battery there whereas the phone support, you'd have to wait for the shipment.
Seems as if they were not able to help in store the first time. Rather than have someone check it out, they had someone come over and tell me I should turn off all the sync and data features. So I did do that, but then why did I get a smartphone?
It's possible you have an app that is not allowing the device to sleep. If it can't sleep, it will drain the battery much faster. You might get 8 to 12 hours awake yet idle.
Are you using many third party apps? If so, have you considered going through them, removing them one at a time, until you find the battery doesn't drain so fast anymore?
If you go to About phone in settings, then Battery, the last item will show awake time. This should be much lower than your Up time.

[Q] Why does the cell radio drain so much battery?

Hi.
So now my father's phone appears to drop about 70% in 24 hours. The sad thing is it happens with no usage at all!! In fact the Wi-fi, mobile data, GPS, bluetooth were already disabled, brightness set to nearly-minimum and SetCPU to ~300MHz.
I checked the battery usage and this is what I found:
41% Cell standby (time without coverage 0%)
37% Phone idle
...
What should I do? I fail to believe that battery is suddenly so poor because not too long ago it, according to my father, it could stay for like 3 days.
ROM is quite old CM7.
Low coverage area? Phone will constantly search for stronger signal. Last week I was on top of 21 story building with poor signal all day, bursted through my battery easily in 4 hrs.
prananas said:
I fail to believe that battery is suddenly so poor because not too long ago it, according to my father, it could stay for like 3 days.
ROM is quite old CM7.
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I believe that batteries can sometimes go from good to bad almost instantly than gradually. So I'm really not surprised that the battery runtime went poor all of a sudden.

[Q] Battery drain with no wakelock

So I've been having battery drain issues. I tracked down one wakelock due to the exchange services, and solved that problem. However according to BBS my phone is in deep sleep for >95% of the time, yet I still have a 200-350 mA draw. GPS/Wifi off, and all location services have been turned off.
A restart solves the problem temporarily however it comes back the next day. Signal strength where I'm at is rather poor, about -110 dB or 29 asu usually. This heavy of a draw seems to be a bit much, even if the signal is weak.
Any suggestions on what to look for?
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booenson said:
So I've been having battery drain issues. I tracked down one wakelock due to the exchange services, and solved that problem. However according to BBS my phone is in deep sleep for >95% of the time, yet I still have a 200-350 mA draw. GPS/Wifi off, and all location services have been turned off.
A restart solves the problem temporarily however it comes back the next day. Signal strength where I'm at is rather poor, about -110 dB or 29 asu usually. This heavy of a draw seems to be a bit much, even if the signal is weak.
Any suggestions on what to look for?
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I am having similar problems at night.. all fine during the day, but draining at night. Neither better battery stats or wakelock detector seem to be offering a clue...

[Q] battery problems?

Hello.
I'm using nexus 7 2013 lte for a couple of weeks and i experience some troubles that quite bother me. Device is running android 4.4.2 installed OTA.
First of all, battery drain in sleep mode is kind of unpredictable. At night (8-9 hours to be exact) device can consume 3%, 5%, 15 or even 20. My first thought was to check installed third-party apps which could cause it. But i didn't manage to find the reason of the problem, the statistics of battery looks OK, tablet can work fine for a couple of days, and then same thing occurs. I found no dependance to 3g and wifi on/off: there can be 3% for night when device is just left with wireless connections, and there can be 10-15% with airplane mode on and precursory reboot. Battery drain happens only in sleep mode, and battery times are absolutely normal on heavy tasks (10 hours of 720p video, 3:45 of gaming). The other device I use works just fine with same apps installed, same settings and cellular carrier: consumption on idle is low and constant.
Some weird jumps in battery level also can be noticed: from current level to 100% and back on: example 1
example 2
No chargers or usb were connected, temperature around was constant. Can't find any reasonable explanation to these jumps.
So should I suspect that my item has any hardware faults of battery, or there can be some software issues?
And another minor question: how good should be wifi reception on nexus? The "other device" I mentioned above (which is galaxy note 2) has solid, good level and speed of connection, while nexus seems quite worse on this subject. For example, in the room where I am at the moment, note has 3/4 bars in wifi symbol and fine, constant speed, and nexus has 1 or 2 bars of 4, and connection looks pretty laggy.
Thanks in advance for any response.
Try factory resetting and testing sleep mode battery consumption again without installing/touching anything. If its a hardware problem, it will happen again. Wifi reception should be the same or better then note normally, but as i said, factory reset and try, if the problem(s) persist, its a hardware problem.
Those battery graph peaks were still present last night.
I've just performed factory reset, will see if it changes behavior of my device.
Thanks!
So, after factory reset on pure system without any non-stock apps I got these results:
Battery consumption on idle was usually between 1 and 1.5% per hour. There was a little of instability (marked red on the screenshot), but just a little. Nothing like sudden 15% per hour that used to happen before. Is 1.5% good enough for sleep mode on stock firmware with 3g(not lte, 3g) and wifi turned on?
No jumps to 100% were noticed during these 24 hours, but they didn't happen every day. They worried me most, so I'll continue to check if they occur again. Hope they disappeared after factory reset.
As for the next step, I gonna install my usual apps and see if it affects battery perfomance.
By the way, about wifi reception: it still had 1-2 bars where galaxy note has 3-4. But then I ran some speedtests, and connection speed on nexus was usually significantly faster then note's. So wifi works just fine, it is just a matter of wifi icon calibration.
For a bit my batt life was suffering. I found it worked to turn it off, charge it fully, and then turn it on again. I actually wanted to know if there r any good task killers for it?

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