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HELP!!.....I downloaded and installed Treve's app to remove CIQ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1247108
After I downloaded and installed, I ran the first option of remove CIQ. It said successful and then said please reboot.
When I rebooted, all I get now is the boot screen that says Samsung Galaxy SII and then it just sits there.
Did I brick my phone?
Background info: My phone is rooted but not with a custom rom or kernal or odin. It is completely stock and I rooted using sfhub's method.
You didn't brink it. I would suggest that you go to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351761
download the stock rom and get the pit file for it as well and read up on odin real quick and reflash your phone with this rom to go back to stock. Also the post you linked is for HTC phones not Samsung from what I can see with a quick glance of it. If you want to reroot and remove CIQ I would suggest getting one of the roms from this section that already has CIQ removed from it and not using that app again.
I don't know if you are bricked. But why would you flash something for the HTC phones when you have a Samsung its really not to hard to find what you need you just had to look in our dev section and you would have found your answer there to remove ciq
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ewalk4866 said:
I don't know if you are bricked. But why would you flash something for the HTC phones when you have a Samsung its really not to hard to find what you need you just had to look in our dev section and you would have found your answer there to remove ciq
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Sfhub's rooting method is super easy, so easy that people that shouldn't be rooting can now root!
My suggestion is run the .tar file like mentioned above. Once you are back to stock, you might want to read a lot before flashing anything again...
I didn't flash anything previously. I just installed an app and bought the key in the market.
While that forums heading is regarding HTC phones, on page 11 is where the app actually is listed and the description states that it is for all phones including Samsung.
I am able to do volume up and power and get to the Samsung options of factory reset but when I choose this, it pops up asking for password. What would that be or is it just my own lockscreen password?
Edit: Yes my lockscreen password is the password. Did the factory reset and it is still coming up to only the Samsung screen.
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Sfhub's rooting method is super easy, so easy that people that shouldn't be rooting can now root!
My suggestion is run the .tar file like mentioned above. Once you are back to stock, you might want to read a lot before flashing anything again...
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Agreed, a good amount these people really shouldn't be flashing anything cause they don't even understand at all what it is they are actually doing. They just hear about it and assume its got to be easy cause they own a pc and can operate windows explorer. I can't tell you how many times people start a thread about if they bricked there phone when 99% of then haven't bricked it at all. which is completely obvious to any one who knows there way around android and get what it its there actually doing to there phone. I feel really bad for the OP and all the others who attempt to flash things without a clue as to whats going on. OP ( which means original poster, aka the guys who started the thread ) you need to search for a stock recovery .tar and run it using odin and you will be fine. Just like the guy above started. Can't figure out odin or aint sure what it is? Use your new best friend www.google.com to find the answer including the one thats already answered in post several times with the same topic name that this one is. nothing is wrong with your phone that can't easily be un done. You will be fine. Pm me if you really can't figure it out amigo
Ok guys, is the purpose here at XDA to help others or just talk down to them and belittle them for not being android guru's?
While I completely and graciously appreciate your advice and help, I am 42 not 15. Also, while I am far from having the extensive knowledge that most of you have, I am not a n00b to all of it and have a pretty good understanding or roms, flashing, etc.
Back to the topic. Again, I did not flash anything. I installed an app. While I agree that I could have found everything needed here in the e4gt forum to remove ICQ (which I did previously but didn't flash), I decided to try the app created by TrevE because it also states that it is for Samsung too, even though it is in the HTC forum and the post topic states HTC.
I installed the app because it also has many additional privacy options, not just CIQ. I did my homework (at least I thought I did) and read everything there and here before doing so. I did not just see something shiny and install it without at least knowing the parameters. Also, since I wasn't flashing anything, I thought installing an app would be safer. If it worked great, if it didn't just uninstall it. Again, since TrevE states that it is also for Samsung, I thought I would be safe.
I guess I will have to do what most of you mentioned and just have to use
[ODIN][STOCK][TAR] SPH-D710.EG30_CL435803_REV05_user.tar.md5
I was just asking for advice if there was another method or something I was overlooking before taking that route.
As always, thank you guys for your help and your advice. Just remember, at some point you were n00bs too Much love and respect to all who contribute, help and teach.........Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Why are you so against using the TAR file? It will get you back up and running and then you can root with the same process that you used the first time.
My apologies for my prior post, we have all been there and done that. I lack sleep right now...
I did the exact same thing the other day and had the exact same results. I ended up flashing a stock kernel with cwm, then flashed a ROM and was able to get it to boot. I didn't wipe when I flashed so I was able to recover all my data. My next step is to use the stock tar, then I'm gonna run the auto root and restore all my data with titanium.
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Why are you so against using the TAR file? .
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Just lazy, LOL.
It seems like a lot of work and was I just praying and hoping for a quick fix or something that I may have been overlooking to fix it.........plus I didn't want to loose all my data and go through the headache of spending three hours setting up and reinstalling everything.
Will this increase my Odin count?
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I did the exact same thing the other day and had the exact same results. I ended up flashing a stock kernel with cwm, then flashed a ROM and was able to get it to boot. I didn't wipe when I flashed so I was able to recover all my data. My next step is to use the stock tar, then I'm gonna run the auto root and restore all my data with titanium.
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LOL, ya I just seen your posts in that thread. Somehow I must have missed page 37, LOL. This could have saved me a lot of headaches and more time for beer and football today, hahaha.
Happy Turkey Day! Gobble Gobble Drink Drink!
WOOOOOWHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Just Odin'd stock tar and she booted right up.....
Now I just gotta change settings and install everything back and then re-root......PITA but at least it's better than a $200 paperweight, LOL
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WOOOOOWHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Just Odin'd stock tar and she booted right up.....
Now I just gotta change settings and install everything back and then re-root......PITA but at least it's better than a $200 paperweight, LOL
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Everyone should have a copy of the full stock tar. If your phone has any kind of power, its almost always able to be saved
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The lesson here is to read things before jumping blindly in and phailing up your device.
The only method to remove CIQ from Samsung devices is my noCIQ series of mods (which are included in many custom ROMs).
Lesson learned.......
Even though TrevE said it works for Samsung, it did'nt. I shoulda just did the noCIQ from Konane that I originally downloaded. I was just hoping some of the other privacy issues addressed in TrevE's apk would be in noCIQ.
Great work Konane and thanks for your contributions.
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The lesson here is to read things before jumping blindly in and phailing up your device.
The only method to remove CIQ from Samsung devices is my noCIQ series of mods (which are included in many custom ROMs).
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can you please share how to access the IQ Client in Samsung Phones? Thanks in advance
I did the exact same thing too! And the one time I didn't run a backup was the one time I needed it. If you aren't rooted, root. If you don't have a custom ROM, now's the time. No CIQ in Calkulin's!
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Sfhub's rooting method is super easy, so easy that people that shouldn't be rooting can now root!
My suggestion is run the .tar file like mentioned above. Once you are back to stock, you might want to read a lot before flashing anything again...
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@OP glad you fixed your phone because a bricked phone is no fun. Although I know you may of gotten upset at this statement. I have to agree that too many people root their phones with out even understanding how to repair it if something goes wrong. Not for nothing but my phone cant boot up its wiping caches then trying to flash a new rom. If that dont work then its time to pray...
Like I said glad you fixed it and no disrespect but the statement above especially read a lot before flashing is something more people need to do... IMHO
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The lesson here is to read things before jumping blindly in and phailing up your device.
The only method to remove CIQ from Samsung devices is my noCIQ series of mods (which are included in many custom ROMs).
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Heh!
I tried this app on my Epic (original ver) and it did the exact same thing. I just restored from nand and all was good.
I was surprised that the app did report that CIQ was running, even using severals ROMs where it was said to be removed
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Just use the tar. Beggers cant be choosers
Is there a way I can root without downloading a whole rooted ROM? I don't want to do that for copyright reasons.
I searched and couldn't find an up-to-date insecure kernel for the E4GT (there is a ClockworkMod one from last year, but I expect that's too old). Since kernels are under GPL, modifying and re-distributing them (with source) is fair game.
p.s. I don't want this thread to switch to a discussion of the legal issues with copying and modifying the stock ROM. It may not be a big deal to many people, but I want to keep within the law as best I can.
Ya man head over to the developers section and download the e4gauto.bat file. That will auto root you from the existing rom you're on. It updates whatever stock kernel you have with a rooted stock kernel with CWM. from eg30 kernel to fd16 i think. Just make sure you have the drivers for your phone and plug it into the usb of your pc and go into applications on your phone to make sure you have usb debugging checks and accept files from unknown sources checked. Make sure your phone is not in usb mode and follow the prompts of the batch file. when it finishes running it will r boot your phone and you will have root and a custom recovery to flash roms with.
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Ya man head over to the developers section and download the e4gauto.bat file. That will auto root you from the existing rom you're on. It updates whatever stock kernel you have with a rooted stock kernel with CWM. from eg30 kernel to fd16 i think.
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I think this doesn't work on EL29.
arpruss said:
Is there a way I can root without downloading a whole rooted ROM? I don't want to do that for copyright reasons.
I searched and couldn't find an up-to-date insecure kernel for the E4GT (there is a ClockworkMod one from last year, but I expect that's too old). Since kernels are under GPL, modifying and re-distributing them (with source) is fair game.
p.s. I don't want this thread to switch to a discussion of the legal issues with copying and modifying the stock ROM. It may not be a big deal to many people, but I want to keep within the law as best I can.
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What rom version do you have I believe its EL13 or lower sfhubs method does not require a rom to be downloaded...
Edit: sorry started this post 10 minutes ago and just saw responses... then your answer is No
Based on your previous thread, you want your *initial* root to
1) avoid yellow triangle
2) avoid flash count
3) avoid using rooted ROM
4) root a ROM where there is no existing exploit
This is not possible.
If you are willing to concede on 1&2, then just ODIN flash any GB-based kernel repacked with CWM. They will work with any GB-based ROM. It will trigger the yellow triangle and increase your flash count. You will need to reset those by other means if you care about it. Either USB jig or upgrade to ICS and use Triangle Away.
sfhub said:
Based on your previous thread, you want your *initial* root to
1) avoid yellow triangle
2) avoid flash count
3) avoid using rooted ROM
4) root a ROM where there is no existing exploit
This is not possible.
If you are willing to concede on 1&2, then just ODIN flash any GB-based kernel repacked with CWM. They will work with any GB-based ROM.
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Thanks!
I actually don't care about 1, and I am willing to concede on 2, now that my 14-day in-store return period is almost over and I'm pretty happy with the phone (except maybe for a pinkish tinge along the middle section of the phone with the brightness turned very low with ScreenDim), which is why I asked this in a new thread.
I assume nobody has had any problems with flash-count and warranty service?
Where can I get an appropriate, safe, non-bricking GB-based kernel repacked with CWM?
Can I use Odin to back up the original kernel and restore it after rooting?
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I assume nobody has had any problems with flash-count and warranty service?
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Most of the time no problem, but sometimes yes. Depends on who you get.
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Where can I get an appropriate, safe, non-bricking GB-based kernel repacked with CWM?
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Use this:
http://chris41g.devphone.org/index.php?dir=EpicTouch/Stock+Repack/EL26/
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Can I use Odin to back up the original kernel and restore it after rooting?
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ODIN doesn't do backups. Your stock kernel is available in the Auto Root package (Option C) or in the Individual Components Reference Section (2nd Post) of the appropriate ODIN OneClick thread in my signature, provided here for your convenience:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23478866&postcount=869
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Most of the time no problem, but sometimes yes. Depends on who you get.
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Does the jig work to reset flash count on 2.3.6? One site that sells jigs says it only does that on 2.3.4 and below.
ODIN doesn't do backups. Your stock kernel is available in the Auto Root package (Option C) or in the Individual Components Reference Section (2nd Post) of the appropriate ODIN OneClick thread in my signature, provided here for your convenience:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23478866&postcount=869
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Thanks!
Presumably, I can also build it from source.
Wow. . Just wow.
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Thanks!
I actually don't care about 1, and I am willing to concede on 2, now that my 14-day in-store return period is almost over and I'm pretty happy with the phone (except maybe for a pinkish tinge along the middle section of the phone with the brightness turned very low with ScreenDim), which is why I asked this in a new thread.
I assume nobody has had any problems with flash-count and warranty service?
Where can I get an appropriate, safe, non-bricking GB-based kernel repacked with CWM?
Can I use Odin to back up the original kernel and restore it after rooting?
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Go Spend $2 on ebay for a USB Jig. Best two bucks I ever spent.
By the way, I had a quick look at Samsung's official warranty information, and it says nothing about it being voided by rooting or other unauthorized modifications. Of course, it exempts "defects or damage resulting from improper testing, operation, maintenance, installation, service, or adjustment not furnished or approved by SAMSUNG", but that's only applicable when the damage results from rooting.
Of course, Sprint does have the authority to cut off one's service for rooting (or for any other thing they see fit).
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Does the jig work to reset flash count on 2.3.6? One site that sells jigs says it only does that on 2.3.4 and below.
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Has nothing to do with Android ROM version. It has to do with your bootloader version. If your phone came with EK02 or EL29, jig will not reset stats, but will get you to ODIN download mode. You'll need to flash EG30/31 bootloader to restore functionality. Look in the wiki if you need it.
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Has nothing to do with Android ROM version. It has to do with your bootloader version. If your phone came with EK02 or EL29, jig will not reset stats, but will get you to ODIN download mode. You'll need to flash EG30/31 bootloader to restore functionality. Look in the wiki if you need it.
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Ah, but that then runs into my pickiness about copyright, because presumably the bootloader is copyrighted by Samsung, and is not under the GPL. :-(
Well, maybe I just need to take my risk about warranty.
There can be a difference between what the warranty says (or what is enforceable) and what your real-life experience is.
That is why I said most of the time no problem, but sometimes yes. The people you communicate with are humans and they don't always interpret the same set of rules the same way.
What is written is theoretically what you would eventually end up with, either right from the beginning or after some amount of back-and-forth.
This is just to let you have the information so you can make your own informed decision.
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There can be a difference between what the warranty says (or what is enforceable) and what your real-life experience is.
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How true.
Has anybody had their service with Sprint cut off over rooting?
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How true.
Has anybody had their service with Sprint cut off over rooting?
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I have personally never once heard of this actually happening, not over rooting alone. (over things that are achieved through rooting, like excessive tethering/data usage/forced roaming, yes)
And in fact, I've very rarely heard of sprint enforcing warr issues over it either, as long as one is smart.
(edit) I'm actually curious about your aversion to copyright issues and using custom ROMs?
(more edit) ah, didn't read your "ps". never mind, even though I'm still fascinated.
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After further investigation, it looks like I can't find a fully legal and safe way to root.
I thought that installing an insecure kernel would do the job. But unfortunately the initramfs inside the zImage includes, in addition to the GPL Linux kernel itself, Samsung-copyrighted non-GPL code, such as redbend_ua, various Samsung-copyrighted image files and customized .rc scripts. So it looks like I can't legally download an insecure kernel.
I could build one myself, copying the files that will go into initramfs from my phone, and modifying to make it insecure.
But the problem is that this is unsafe, as I will have no way of restoring the stock kernel if I screw up in building the kernel, since there does not appear to be any legally available download of the stock kernel anywhere. (Check FUS doesn't seem capable of downloading EL29, but in any case in the US there are legal issues--DMCA--with Check FUS's decryption.) And without root, I cannot simply dump the kernel from the device using dd--if I could, that would solve the problem.
So, here's my question: Does anyone know any legal way of restoring the stock EL29 kernel (i.e., without downloading the stock firmware from an unauthorized location)?
This is really frustrating. I am not a lawyer, but it looks like one needs to be one to figure out how to root a device properly. Of course, I expect people think I am nitpicking. (But then again, I am a professional nitpicker in my day job.)
May i ask what is the reason for wanting to go through all this hassle to root your phone "legally"?
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arpruss said:
After further investigation, it looks like I can't find a fully legal and safe way to root.
I thought that installing an insecure kernel would do the job. But unfortunately the initramfs inside the zImage includes, in addition to the GPL Linux kernel itself, Samsung-copyrighted non-GPL code, such as redbend_ua, various Samsung-copyrighted image files and customized .rc scripts. So it looks like I can't legally download an insecure kernel.
I could build one myself, copying the files that will go into initramfs from my phone, and modifying to make it insecure.
But the problem is that this is unsafe, as I will have no way of restoring the stock kernel if I screw up in building the kernel, since there does not appear to be any legally available download of the stock kernel anywhere. (Check FUS doesn't seem capable of downloading EL29, but in any case in the US there are legal issues--DMCA--with Check FUS's decryption.) And without root, I cannot simply dump the kernel from the device using dd--if I could, that would solve the problem.
So, here's my question: Does anyone know any legal way of restoring the stock EL29 kernel (i.e., without downloading the stock firmware from an unauthorized location)?
This is really frustrating. I am not a lawyer, but it looks like one needs to be one to figure out how to root a device properly. Of course, I expect people think I am nitpicking. (But then again, I am a professional nitpicker in my day job.)
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Yes download it strait from Samsung as they have to post the firmware online as its open source...
https://opensource.samsung.com/index.jsp;jsessionid=FF0EE2E3CBD55BC19F669F0AC57CBFC8
Scroll down to sph-d710 there you can get it from them but technically everything in Android is OPEn source except the drivers....
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I don't know why I find this thread so interesting.
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Ok, So I did some searching and I found lots of information, but I didn't really find anything that tied all of the information together. I am not new to rooting or flashing phones, but I am new to this phone. So Here is my problem. I have seen a lot of the "how to root" guides. But I haven't really seen a guide on how to know which method to use. I have a brand new phone that I got today before work. So I have no idea how to tell which root method to use. Any information regarding how to tell which method/root this thing would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Its up to you, just follow the directions. I prefer odin from pc or sfhub autoroot package. I always have pc access though.
Using either of those methods, does it matter that I just got my phone and I don't know what software is on it? What if I wanted to try an ICS ROM or something? I am just a bit apprehensive.
So more reading and I figured out that I have the EL29 what ever. So I need to do this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
But am I right in thinking that I still need to install CWM somehow in order to flash custom ROMs? Also, does flashing a custom ROM increase the flash counter thing?
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Using either of those methods, does it matter that I just got my phone and I don't know what software is on it? What if I wanted to try an ICS ROM or something? I am just a bit apprehensive.
So more reading and I figured out that I have the EL29 what ever. So I need to do this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
But am I right in thinking that I still need to install CWM somehow in order to flash custom ROMs? Also, does flashing a custom ROM increase the flash counter thing?
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Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662295 Watch Qbking's videos - here is the one for the FF18 build [located here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229 [
Take some time and read read and then read again or you will turn you device into an expensive shiny fishing lure.
If you start off with sfhub's one-clicks you really can't go wrong. He has made it dead simple and safe and provided outstanding directions.
You can then use sfhub's Autoroot package to add Agat's 'safe' recovery with CWM.
Good luck
So I see that the the initial autoroot, it doesn't increase the Odin flash counter. But flashing a custom ROM (like say I wanted to go to ICS) would increase the counter?
I use this to get rid of the triangle and reset flash counter http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
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So I see that the the initial autoroot, it doesn't increase the Odin flash counter. But flashing a custom ROM (like say I wanted to go to ICS) would increase the counter?
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My friend one of the best pieces of advice I have seen here for you is too do some reading. Also why do you want to root your phone? If its for tethering you can simply install foxfi. If you want to try out different roms and tweaks then you really need to learn your phone. Developers, themers and contributors have set up thread after thread of great tutorials and answers to all your questions.
Welcome to android rooting world and you made a good choice but before I have to view another "I May Have Bricked My Phone" thread please read up and get up to speed on the craziness in here
Also to answer your question your counter only goes up when you flash an unsecure kernel through odin. Not when you use CWM
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I use this to get rid of the triangle and reset flash counter http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
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If I am not mistaken I believe that app is strictly for ICS.... I may be wrong
playya said:
My friend one of the best pieces of advice I have seen here for you is too do some reading. Also why do you want to root your phone? If its for tethering you can simply install foxfi. If you want to try out different roms and tweaks then you really need to learn your phone. Developers, themers and contributors have set up thread after thread of great tutorials and answers to all your questions.
Welcome to android rooting world and you made a good choice but before I have to view another "I May Have Bricked My Phone" thread please read up and get up to speed on the craziness in here
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I Have rooted 3 previous phones, I just am new to this one. I Haven't done anything yet and I don't plan on it until I understand this phone better. Right now I am just kind of lost with a lot of the shorthand that is used in a lot of the threads. I am doing a ton of reading, but like I said, there are just some things that I feel aren't clarified enough for me to be comfortable just yet.
I just got a replacement phone from Sprint that I can't root. Every time I get the Hellions with BLUE flame message.
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I Have rooted 3 previous phones, I just am new to this one. I Haven't done anything yet and I don't plan on it until I understand this phone better. Right now I am just kind of lost with a lot of the shorthand that is used in a lot of the threads. I am doing a ton of reading, but like I said, there are just some things that I feel aren't clarified enough for me to be comfortable just yet.
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Yeah my old phone was a samsung but rooting and flashing were way different. This phone is really easy though. Don't over complicate it, just read the directions and go when ready. Don't flash anything brand new or any alpha releases, everything else out there is pretty safe if you follow directions.
Well the phone just updated to FF18. If I am not mistaken, I thought I saw somewhere something about rooting it (or flashing it) with ICS/ICS ROMs to be very risky? is this true?
Ok so here goes a long but detailed read. I am writing this in hopes other fido users searching may find this thread and avoid future questions. Phone came with the TW 4.1.1 from fido and is fully stock.
Brand new S3 Galaxy from Fido (same as rogers) i747M Phone is great but the rooting bug has caught me.
1. I plan to root the device fairly shortly and install a non touchwiz variant. I will be following "High on Android's" Technique. detailed in this youtube video.
Is that method correct for my phone?
or should I be following something different? I just noticed Mr. Robinson posted the Fido TAR with root injected already on it. Does this make any difference? Links to TAR file are here
2. Now assuming I get everything up and running. What is the deal with "Triangleaway" and flash counters? From my understanding, Samsung has a counter installed that ensures they keep an eye on voided warranties due to flashing. Sure thats fine but lets talk about what we can do.
From what I gather, Triangle away will sort me out and get rid of the counters and put them back to zero in case I need to send my phone in for warranty. Is this correct?
Most of the triangle away info I read is for pre 4.1.1 confirmations hence why I ask.
3. Now lets assume I have flashed thephone and I am running CM 10 beautiful. Oh no power button breaks. What will be the required steps to get my phone back to 'stock" to send to Samsung. Will this even be possible to send it in without a worry? I cant seem to find steps online for this.
4. A lot of guides talk about the importance of backing up. Sure sounds great but they dont seem to give detailed instructions. What are the most important things I should backup before, during and after rooting my phone in case I brick it or anything goes wrong? Again any link or detailed explanations would be great.
Sorry for being so exhaustive in my questions. I like to learn it all so I can help other afterwards but also structured the thread so its easy to search for future users.
Happy new year everyone!
sspikey said:
1. I plan to root the device fairly shortly and install a non touchwiz variant. I will be following "High on Android's" Technique. detailed in this youtube video.
Is that method correct for my phone?
or should I be following something different? I just noticed Mr. Robinson posted the Fido TAR with root injected already on it. Does this make any difference? Links to TAR file are here
2. Now assuming I get everything up and running. What is the deal with "Triangleaway" and flash counters? From my understanding, Samsung has a counter installed that ensures they keep an eye on voided warranties due to flashing. Sure thats fine but lets talk about what we can do.
From what I gather, Triangle away will sort me out and get rid of the counters and put them back to zero in case I need to send my phone in for warranty. Is this correct?
Most of the triangle away info I read is for pre 4.1.1 confirmations hence why I ask.
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I'm going to answer these two questions together, because they're interrelated.
There's no one single root method that's more "correct" than any of the others. The key difference between the end result of most of the methods is whether the flash counter has been tripped, which occurs (under circumstances where you're coming from ICS) if you use Odin to flash something other than a stock image (untouched or rooted as in Mr_Robinson's case). You can also trip the flash counter if you have the Jelly Bean boot loader and boot into a non-stock recovery image.
Thus, if you want to avoid tripping the counter for as long as possible, you want to use a method for rooting that doesn't trip the counter, such as the Mr_Robinson method.
If you're going to flash a custom recovery after working from stock JB, you'll probably end up tripping the flash counter the moment you boot into it, in which case (assuming your phone is still rooted) you could use Triangle Away to reset said flash counter.
sspikey said:
3. Now lets assume I have flashed thephone and I am running CM 10 beautiful. Oh no power button breaks. What will be the required steps to get my phone back to 'stock" to send to Samsung. Will this even be possible to send it in without a worry? I cant seem to find steps online for this.
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I'd do the following:
Triangle Away, if the flash counter isn't 0;
Boot into download mode;
Flash a normal stock image from here; [*]Boot into stock recovery and wipe data/cache; [*]Boot phone as normal.
sspikey said:
4. A lot of guides talk about the importance of backing up. Sure sounds great but they dont seem to give detailed instructions. What are the most important things I should backup before, during and after rooting my phone in case I brick it or anything goes wrong? Again any link or detailed explanations would be great.
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There are two major approaches you can take here, and using both of them responsibly is probably a good idea.
Titanium Backup, usable if your device is rooted, can back up all of your application data and some system settings; it's great for transferring data between ROMs and/or between devices altogether (I've done both). Most people I know of only use it for the former, as trying to restore system data with TiBu usually causes bizarre and unpredictable effects (with a few exceptions, such as text message data).
With a custom recovery, you can make what's called a "nandroid" backup, which is a complete image of your current ROM and userland data; it's most useful when you want to make a restore point of sorts for if you're, say, flashing experimental ROM images or other things you don't expect to work very well.
Hope this is of help.
smelenchuk said:
I'm going to answer these two questions together, because they're interrelated.
There's no one single root method that's more "correct" than any of the others. The key difference between the end result of most of the methods is whether the flash counter has been tripped, which occurs (under circumstances where you're coming from ICS) if you use Odin to flash something other than a stock image (untouched or rooted as in Mr_Robinson's case). You can also trip the flash counter if you have the Jelly Bean boot loader and boot into a non-stock recovery image.
Thus, if you want to avoid tripping the counter for as long as possible, you want to use a method for rooting that doesn't trip the counter, such as the Mr_Robinson method.
If you're going to flash a custom recovery after working from stock JB, you'll probably end up tripping the flash counter the moment you boot into it, in which case (assuming your phone is still rooted) you could use Triangle Away to reset said flash counter.
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It seems the flash counter is a lot less worrysome to me now that you indicated I can always go back to a stock rom and return it for warranty regardless if it has a counter or not. Now I wonder why people even worry about tripping it.
I'd do the following:
Triangle Away, if the flash counter isn't 0;
Boot into download mode;
Flash a normal stock image from here; [*]Boot into stock recovery and wipe data/cache; [*]Boot phone as normal.
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So Sounds to me like I should not worry about flashing and warranty correct? There will always be a method to go back to my phone in order to deal with warranty if something physical goes wrong? Any guide you could point me towards for this? I found this http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-unroot/how-to-unroot-canadian-galaxy-s3-sgh-i747m-stock-roms/
but it doesnt mention any fido files (understandable since its new)
There are two major approaches you can take here, and using both of them responsibly is probably a good idea.
Titanium Backup, usable if your device is rooted, can back up all of your application data and some system settings; it's great for transferring data between ROMs and/or between devices altogether (I've done both). Most people I know of only use it for the former, as trying to restore system data with TiBu usually causes bizarre and unpredictable effects (with a few exceptions, such as text message data).
With a custom recovery, you can make what's called a "nandroid" backup, which is a complete image of your current ROM and userland data; it's most useful when you want to make a restore point of sorts for if you're, say, flashing experimental ROM images or other things you don't expect to work very well.
Hope this is of help.
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These two forms of backup I am use to and have used extensively on my nexus S. What I am worried about is more deep "system" type backups people do. is there any for this phone I should do through odin or Kies?
Edit: almost forgot to say thank you!
How come the root66_FMC_I747MVLDLK4.7z download link keep saying searching for mirror, please wait? Waited for 1 hr, no links. Refresh, no links.
thats odd I tried it yesterday and it worked
send a PM to the thread starter he will put up a new mirror I guess
Yes, I read the how to's and FAQ's, but it still isn't clear to me.
I have an ATT S3 with AOKP version jb-mr2 mileston1
android 4.3.1
baseband I747UCUEMJB
I read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658486 that I could just run this recovery zip and everything would be good. I don't know this guy from adam. So that bothers me a little (he is highly rated, a contributor, etc...getting roms from strangers is just a paranoid thing with me...no offence.), but I'd be willing to do it if it is the only way.
I was looking for a way to do it via heimdal/odin by flashing the stock rom. This has the same trust issues I guess. I didn't find a definitive how to on this for my particular situation.
Ideally I'd like to go straight to the source and reflash everything. I read in this thread that I shouldn't use Kies on the stock OTA to go back to stock, but that's not what I'm doing. However, I would like to avoid bricking my phone.
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The thread that you mentioned is pretty clear on the instructions. Heck, I'll even quote them below:
enewman17 said:
This is a last ditch effort for restoring the AT&T I747 to factory stock. This zip will wipe all data, clear the binary flash count, restore the system, flash the latest KNOX firmware and stock recovery. There is absolutely no possible way to clear the warranty bit back to 0x0 IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO REVERT ONCE TRIPED!! Not even Samsung can undo this.! Its the price we pay for rooting our phones.
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Then you simply flash that within your recovery and then follow the below instructions within that thread. You should now have a phone that is pretty much factory new. As long as you're on the bootloader, which you stated you were, you'll be fine.
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Yes, I read the how to's and FAQ's, but it still isn't clear to me.
I have an ATT S3 with AOKP version jb-mr2 mileston1
android 4.3.1
baseband I747UCUEMJB
I read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658486 that I could just run this recovery zip and everything would be good. I don't know this guy from adam. So that bothers me a little (he is highly rated, a contributor, etc...getting roms from strangers is just a paranoid thing with me...no offence.), but I'd be willing to do it if it is the only way.
I was looking for a way to do it via heimdal/odin by flashing the stock rom. This has the same trust issues I guess. I didn't find a definitive how to on this for my particular situation.
Ideally I'd like to go straight to the source and reflash everything. I read in this thread that I shouldn't use Kies on the stock OTA to go back to stock, but that's not what I'm doing. However, I would like to avoid bricking my phone.
Advice...
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Can understand your concerns. The file is good. However, don't just take mine or anybody's word for it. Do what the instruction says and verify the MD5 before flashing. Verifying the MD5 of an executable file is one sure way of confirming that the file hasn't been tampered with or backdoored in some way. Usually, the original author of the file means well. However, for programs that are out in the public domain, it is easy enough for hackers to introduce some malware into the original program and corrupt it in some way. With an MD5, it is practically impossible for two separately created programs or a program that has been altered in some way from the original to have identical MD5s. Also if you download incorrectly or incompletely, the MD5 lets you know something is wrong.
There are freeware apps on the web that let you verify an MD5 and I would suggest you look for this. If you download the zip, therefore, and verify the MD5 to be the same as the one advised by the OP, then you are good to go.