Does anyone else experience eyestrain with devices that have the HD Super Amoled screen?
I notice after about 10 - 15 mins of use, I get dizzy and my eyes hurt like they are being crossed or something when using the galaxy s3 or galaxy note, my old galaxy s2 skyrocket doesn't bother me though....
I've tried to turn the brightness down all the way, using the device at different distance to no avail.
Any possible solutions to remedy this? or am I going to have to sell my new S3 like I did my galaxy note? :/
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I've actually noticed a decrease in eye strain coming from an LCD screen on my atrix. LCD screens are constantly flashing, and the screen on my galaxy s3 is super clear for me almost no eye strain. Its probably personal preference though.
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jefferson9 said:
I've actually noticed a decrease in eye strain coming from an LCD screen on my atrix. LCD screens are constantly flashing, and the screen on my galaxy s3 is super clear for me almost no eye strain. Its probably personal preference though.
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I've actually experienced the opposite as my first android device was an atrix....
I think it may have something to do with the 1200 x 800 resolution on such a small screen because If I turn up the resolution on my PC HD monitor to something like 1600 x 1200 for example, my eyes start to hurt.
I was actually going to post a new great until I saw this. I came from retina displays and my eyes are sore after I look at the screen for over 10 minutes on my GS3. Kinda concerning!! Might have to switch back to an apple product. I was getting use to droid too. :-/
its because of the screen size/pixels. Your eyes still needs to be adjusted to the new screen lol... obv
Yes!
I got vertigo/migraines about a month after getting my S3. I had a number of medical tests to see what was causing it - but even after new glasses I've narrowed it down to the S3 display being too strong for my eyes. I'm going to sell mine and get a replacement with a duller screen.
Try this...
Try changing the Screen Mode to 'Natural' or 'Movie". Helped a bit.
I also immidiately noticed eye fatique after getting Galaxy s3, particularly in my right eye. It started only getting worse, and coincidently only when I was using Galaxy. Other lcd devices such as older 3gs never bothered me at all. Surpisingly majority of reviews call the display stunning quality, but its pretty dim, practically unusable outside and colors are unnaturally oversaturated, all of which didnt bother me that much as long as my eyes wouldnt hurt so much. I started reading more about specs in Super amoled technology, but nothing pointed out to potensial issues, than I googled galaxy s3 refresh rate, and the first video from the search result comparing s3 to the iphone, provided a major clue. The poor quality camera was picking up horrible flickering from galaxy, but iphone screen didnt flicker at all. It instantly brought me back to old CRT days, and I also remember getting dizzy from such displays running at low refresh rates of 60mhz. Back than bumping up refresh rate to 75mhz conciderably dicreased eye strain. I took the video to the store, sales person was suprised that I was returning such popular product, but its been a day since my exchange for another brand and eye strain is gone. The issue maybe overlooked as it affects low percentage of people, but if you have sensitive vision, than you'd be much better off with non hd amoled technology
Could it be the brightness?
I'm sure your not holding it against your nose while watchin you tube, but maybe its the overall brightness of the screen thats getting to you? I use a powersaver app that has a black screen filter that dims it out a good little bit, maybe something like that could help, or a matte finish screen protector...the anti glare ones I think.
Use the "Screen Filter" for use at nights.
Set brightness to 0, and enable filter. I set mine at 48.6% and 36.9% (created two widgets with these percentages) and use either as needed.
Set your brightness lower. It's the brightness of your screen. I have the same problem before turning down the screen
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Keep phone at safe distance from face. Try a dark theme or inverted apps, or both they will most likely reduce eyestrain as well as save battery.
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Seems ok to me with brightness anywhere from dimmest to 50%.
hmm, can't say I've experienced any strain.
The cm10 rom is extremely bright too, at half, I started getting headaches but on stock, I can state at near brightest all day.
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Hi all,
There are a lot of users who feel uncomfortable with AMOLED displays (not all of them, for example sgs2 is not affected). They can struggle with head ache and eye strain. You can google "galaxy s3 eye strain" for example or watch how AMOLED blinks through photo/video camera (there are tons of youtube videos). This effect apperars only when screen brightness is not at maximum level. The nature of that is the mechanism used for brightness control. Instead of forcing the pixels to glow at less brightness they force them to blink very fast. The faster pixel blinks - the brighter it seems to the user. The downside of this is that the whole screen blinks as an old CRT monitor which causes this negative effect.
I found an app which could help us to workaround this issue. I filed a feature request. So if you are interested you can add yourself to wathcher list and post a comment here - https://bitbucket.org/VitoCassisi/lux/issue/38/lux-auto-brightness-feature-request-for
This should not take a lot of time since you can authorise there with your google/facebook/twitter or other account.
Wow! I switched the screen to "natural", the problem with oversaturared, too rich colors was solved. I had to keep the brightness low so color pictures aren't too bright, but this made reading text on white backround unpleasant. Of course now I have to find new brightness levels (what brightness levels do you guys use for day and night?)
PS: Samsung has been doing similar tricks with the colors in their TVs. Some series 6 TVs made the picture look like it was from a heat sensor in dynsmic mode, and this was their default mode.
PPS: Mobile screens suck. LCDs have washed out blacks which strains the eyes, and AMOLEDs don't care about correct colors which makes you duzzy.
S3 screen flickers!
MetQuota said:
I also immidiately noticed eye fatique after getting Galaxy s3, particularly in my right eye. It started only getting worse, and coincidently only when I was using Galaxy. Other lcd devices such as older 3gs never bothered me at all. Surpisingly majority of reviews call the display stunning quality, but its pretty dim, practically unusable outside and colors are unnaturally oversaturated, all of which didnt bother me that much as long as my eyes wouldnt hurt so much. I started reading more about specs in Super amoled technology, but nothing pointed out to potensial issues, than I googled galaxy s3 refresh rate, and the first video from the search result comparing s3 to the iphone, provided a major clue. The poor quality camera was picking up horrible flickering from galaxy, but iphone screen didnt flicker at all. It instantly brought me back to old CRT days, and I also remember getting dizzy from such displays running at low refresh rates of 60mhz. Back than bumping up refresh rate to 75mhz conciderably dicreased eye strain. I took the video to the store, sales person was suprised that I was returning such popular product, but its been a day since my exchange for another brand and eye strain is gone. The issue maybe overlooked as it affects low percentage of people, but if you have sensitive vision, than you'd be much better off with non hd amoled technology
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You are absolutely right. S3 screen flickers a lot. Try to move it quickly in front of your eyes, move your eyest when looking at it, or move your finger fast in front of the screen. I certainly do notice it.
What other phones have better displays? Sony? HTC?
I have a solution to resolve galaxy S3 scren flickering: set brightness to max in settings, install an app like "Screen Filter" (one with black-white rectangle) and decrease brightness there, in the app.
Flickering gone!
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You are absolutely right. S3 screen flickers a lot. Try to move it quickly in front of your eyes, move your eyest when looking at it, or move your finger fast in front of the screen. I certainly do notice it.
What other phones have better displays? Sony? HTC?
I have a solution to resolve galaxy S3 scren flickering: set brightness to max in settings, install an app like "Screen Filter" (one with black-white rectangle) and decrease brightness there, in the app.
Flickering gone!
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Most of phone LCD screens are not affected by flicker. Even some amoled displays too. For example old HTC Legend and galaxy S2.
Galaxy note 3, 4, Galaxy s4, 5 are also affected. I strongly recommend you not to buy any new samsung phones equipped with AMOLED screens.
Now with this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vito.lux software you can get rid of screen flickering issue. Automatic brightness adjust will also work.
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how many have devices like this? It doesnt seem to disappear on mine until about half brightness up.. and even there i can slightly tell. is this a problem on most phones or only some? Also with light usage i'm losing over 10% per hour, doesnt seem right at all
All AMOLED screens have that issue at low brightness, it just varies from phone to phone. Give it a few charge cycles before you start looking at the battery. The battery on my Nexus drained extremely quickly when I first got it but it's been lasting longer and longer with each passing day (3 so far)
My screen is the same, you need to be at half brightness to get a decent image. Auto brightness in full darkness makes you think that the screen is totally broken.
yours has like bands of a different shade too? mine has one thick one on the right of the screen and it's pretty annoying.. about to go into the city tomorrow to exchange it but if there all like that then i dont know
I went in to the store, and they said that they wouldn't switch it out.
Mine looks fine at lowest brightness. I use mine mostly at.about 10% brightness and look great.
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Yes ! I thought that mine was also broken. It is good to know i am not alone .
can we get a screenshot?
Would it even show in a screenshot? Yes, it's AMOLED... that's the way it is. More than worth it.
It wouldn't show in a screenshot since this is a hardware related issue. And I don't think it's normal if it has brighter spots like explained. Mine isn't as smooth as you would expect either at lower brightness levels but it is not like explained by the OP.
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All SAMOLEDs sacrifice clarity and color representation for slightly better black levels. Just the nature of the screen technology. All 4 Samsung models (and all 7 phones) I've come across have it.
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Mine looks fine at lowest brightness. I use mine mostly at.about 10% brightness and look great.
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in denial???
I've never seen the banding effect before, and this is coming from someone in a household with two out-of-commission Galaxy S', two GSIIs, a Focus, and my Nexus. The PenTile screen door effect can get to me if I'm looking for it, but that's the only SAMOLED issue I'm familiar with.
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I actually like the slightly grainy look mine has at lower brightness levels
Would Voodoo Control be compatible with this? It was an awesome feature that my Nexus S had!
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Not only is mine grainy at low brightness, it also has a pink and green tinge (in opposite sides of the screen)
It doesn't seem to happen on the 1st gen AMOLED (Nexus one, not grainy at low light) or S-AMOLED (Galaxy S, it did have an overall blue tint, but it was on the WHOLE screen)
Not completely noticeable, but would have expected better. At 40% or higher, its barely noticeable.
Got the same problem 40-50% and its barely noticable, any lower and i can see much distortion.
I know its a hardware thing but is this something that might be fixed with a future update or are we stuck with this?
The screen will look grainy on white/grey backgrounds at lower brightness settings, but there should not be any vertical/horizontal banding on the screen.
My first phone had a vertical bar of banding going down the entire screen, and bothered the crap out of me. Went in this morning and had it swapped with a Nexus that has no issues. For the price that we're paying for this phone (especially those with International unlocked imports) it better be perfect.
yup, i only ever see it in one place (the grain), and thats on the store before anything loads (an all gray background). Don't see it on white or anything else... that i know is pentile.
Galaxy Note is similar at lower brightness levels, must be AMOLED.
iPhone 4S is best if reading at lowest brightness levels is very important,
but in brighter light the Nexus and Note look amazing.
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tldr: Too much Vertical lines on my GN. It's very visible and worse than the graininess.
I know others won't agree with me here but, this is a $650+tax phone.
A phone of this price deserves a perfect screen.
Look at iphone 4 / 4s. Sure the screens are small but there are NO ISSUES WHAT SO EVER. The IPS they use is basically perfect.
Ever since I got my Galaxy Nexus, I have had concerns regarding the screen:
1) It kills too much battery. Battery settings show it killing 50 - 70% of the battery WITH AUTO BRIGHTNESS ON.
2) There are LINES EVERYWHERE. The whole screen is very grainy unless the brightness is very high. But then it's too bright (especially for low light reading) and it will probably kill 80%+ of the battery....
3) Pentile matrix. Sorry to say but it's very noticeable. This is especially true for text that is white or red.
Download this app:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/dead-pixel-test/net.ujacha.deadpixel
Cycle through the colors and notice, Green is the only true 720p. The red/blue look terrible and you can see the sub pixels (because there are only half as many of each compared to green)
Overall, it's a great screen. I can live with the high battery drain (large screen). I can also live with the pentile (high resolution, excellent blacks).
However, the lines / grainy textures everywhere is just unacceptable. I could even live with the grainy texture but there are a few vertical lines that are VERY noticeable.
Should I get mine exchanged ?? I'm just afraid that the replacement may be worse....
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I know others won't agree with me here but, this is a $650+tax phone.
A phone of this price deserves a perfect screen.
Look at iphone 4 / 4s. Sure the screens are small but there are NO ISSUES WHAT SO EVER. The IPS they use is basically perfect.
Ever since I got my Galaxy Nexus, I have had concerns regarding the screen:
1) It kills too much battery. Battery settings show it killing 50 - 70% of the battery WITH AUTO BRIGHTNESS ON.
2) There are LINES EVERYWHERE. The whole screen is very grainy unless the brightness is very high. But then it's too bright (especially for low light reading) and it will probably kill 80%+ of the battery....
3) Pentile matrix. Sorry to say but it's very noticeable. This is especially true for text that is white or red.
Download this app:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/dead-pixel-test/net.ujacha.deadpixel
Cycle through the colors and notice, Green is the only true 720p. The red/blue look terrible and you can see the sub pixels (because there are only half as many of each compared to green)
Overall, it's a great screen. I can live with the high battery drain (large screen). I can also live with the pentile (high resolution, excellent blacks).
However, the lines / grainy textures everywhere is just unacceptable.
Should I get mine exchanged ?? I'm just afraid that the replacement may be worse....
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they are all kinda like this. Some worse than others. I just don't mind it as much. What is killing me is the camera...it is so bad...
Honestly, I don't see the graininess,even with this antiglare screen protector I have on.
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Just about every new phone has the same two complaints... Battery and screen. Not that you don't have a valid complaint, I've noticed it too. I just don't think you are going to find that perfect balance in a phone.
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Honestly, I don't see the graininess,even with this antiglare screen protector I have on.
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Don't think the screen protector has anything to do with it.
I'm using the SGP oleophobic atm.
What really bothers me is the Vertical lines...
Try this. Set your background as a solid dark grey color. I guarantee you will see the imperfections.
THS1989 said:
I know others won't agree with me here but, this is a $650+tax phone.
A phone of this price deserves a perfect screen.
Look at iphone 4 / 4s. Sure the screens are small but there are NO ISSUES WHAT SO EVER. The IPS they use is basically perfect.
Ever since I got my Galaxy Nexus, I have had concerns regarding the screen:
1) It kills too much battery. Battery settings show it killing 50 - 70% of the battery WITH AUTO BRIGHTNESS ON.
2) There are LINES EVERYWHERE. The whole screen is very grainy unless the brightness is very high. But then it's too bright (especially for low light reading) and it will probably kill 80%+ of the battery....
3) Pentile matrix. Sorry to say but it's very noticeable. This is especially true for text that is white or red.
Download this app:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/dead-pixel-test/net.ujacha.deadpixel
Cycle through the colors and notice, Green is the only true 720p. The red/blue look terrible and you can see the sub pixels (because there are only half as many of each compared to green)
Overall, it's a great screen. I can live with the high battery drain (large screen). I can also live with the pentile (high resolution, excellent blacks).
However, the lines / grainy textures everywhere is just unacceptable. I could even live with the grainy texture but there are a few vertical lines that are VERY noticeable.
Should I get mine exchanged ?? I'm just afraid that the replacement may be worse....
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The definition of 720p is based on pixel arrangement, NOT subpixel arrangement. it is a 1280x720 screen. By your definition, a 720p/1080p screen is only true if it is an RGB subpixel arrangement. So you would also say that the Sharp Aquos Quattron TVs that have a yellow subpixel are more than 1080p.
If you expected the equivalent of a current generation plasma screen shrunk down to a 4.65" screen in a phone, that's just unreasonable. Its the first iteration of this tech. Lines and grainy screens are AMOLED's version of lasting burn-in and high power consumption on plasma.
Also, everyone references the iPhone. Why? The colors are inaccurate and undersaturated, and the contrast is too high. It is NOT a calibrated IPS panel. Name-dropping IPS technology means nothing.
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Just about every new phone has the same two complaints... Battery and screen. Not that you don't have a valid complaint, I've noticed it too. I just don't think you are going to find that perfect balance in a phone.
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Absolutely perfect. Couldn't have said it betta
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THS1989 said:
Don't think the screen protector has anything to do with it.
I'm using the SGP oleophobic atm.
What really bothers me is the Vertical lines...
Try this. Set your background as a solid dark grey color. I guarantee you will see the imperfections.
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They are all like that.. it's a flaw of the pentile matrix that they used to build the screen.
auto-brightness makes it worse.
What's the point in setting up a scenario to expose the flaws that exist in every (gnex) screen?
Most people's use-cases won't involve that scenario and they'll be able to enjoy the screen without a problem except for battery life, but battery life is always going to be a problem for a display larger than 4".
In my day to day use of looking at things other than dark gray backgrounds and solid color fields, the screen looks fantastic and has one of the highest pixel densities of any phone display out there. (Nitro HD, Rezound, LG's 720p screen phone and iPhone 4/4S have slightly higher pixel densities.. but they're all a cut above most other phones available)
ok the wife and i upgraded at the same time...........i chose the GN she chose the iphone 4s.
and honestly i would be gutted if i had chosen the 4s !!! ive worked a lot with the sg2 and for me the screen is too 'in your face' colours are vivid...the GN screen has a great balance.........and well going from the from the GN to the 4s ..........jeez the 4s is tiny
That first point drives me crazy. It's a percentage of battery use, do you get that? It means that if the phone uses almost no power except a little when the screen is on, then the display will be using most of the battery.
What you WANT is that. The worst is when cell standby eats up all the battery. That means it's draining just sitting on the table.
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Next time get a iPhone 4s cause it has a perfect screen, u will then have no buyers remorse.
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Right on brah!
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That first point drives me crazy. It's a percentage of battery use, do you get that? It means that if the phone uses almost no power except a little when the screen is on, then the display will be using most of the battery.
What you WANT is that. The worst is when cell standby eats up all the battery. That means it's draining just sitting on the table.
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OK fair enough.
People have been *****ing and complaining about this phone not coming out fast enough for months now. Now that it's out people are logging in here to ***** about it not being perfect.
All I can say is that some people are creating a lot of needless suffering for themselves. At least keep it to yourself if you are going to go through life with that kind of an attitude.
If 14 year old me could have seen this phone in 1991 his head would have exploded.
I'm not an expert, but I just sold my Bionic and got the G. Nexus. The pentile on the Bionic drove me NUTS, but I LOVE this screen. I don't see ANY screen door effect, and I have loaded a few HD Videos on it and watching them is GORGEOUS. The colors are amazing and blacks are better then my 55" Samsung LED with an 8 million:1 contrast ratio. My roommate has the iPhone 4, and his draw dropped at this screen, and we held it right next to the iPhone 4. Only complaint is video recording is shaky, glad they are adding video stabilization in 4.0.3. OH, and I looked at my battery usage and the display is 68%. I bought the 2100mAh battery (for 25 bux, and barely any size change why not) and am getting a good 8-9 hours with a lot of use out of it which is about what I got on my Bionic with the 2760mAh extended battery. So maybe the screen is just by far, the most power intensive component, hence the high percentage of battery use. Anyway, this phone, like all others, could use improvements in some areas, but I absolutely LOVE it. And am SO GLAD to be rid of my Bionic (GOOD RIDDANCE)
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People have been *****ing and complaining about this phone not coming out fast enough for months now. Now that it's out people are logging in here to ***** about it not being perfect.
All I can say is that some people are creating a lot of needless suffering for themselves. At least keep it to yourself if you are going to go through life with that kind of an attitude.
If 14 year old me could have seen this phone in 1991 his head would have exploded.
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I never complained about it not being out lol. Hell I didn't even line up, just pre-ordered online and waited patiently....
It's just that: THE VERTICAL LINES...It's worse than the graininess part. These lines should not be here on a $650 phone is really my biggest complaint.
Honestly, it's just a matter of quality control. Some phones are worse than others ??? Well that just proves that it's the QC.
I hope Samsung ups their quality control so people don't get stuck with these visible lines on their $650 phones.
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That first point drives me crazy. It's a percentage of battery use, do you get that? It means that if the phone uses almost no power except a little when the screen is on, then the display will be using most of the battery.
What you WANT is that. The worst is when cell standby eats up all the battery. That means it's draining just sitting on the table.
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Today I learned there is at least one other human on this planet besides me who understands this. Thank the might Zeus.
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If you can notice anything to do with pentile matrix then you definitely have magnifying lenses for eyes.
I'm not buying any of that OP. Sounds like a troll to me.
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AdamNJ77 said:
I'm not an expert, but I just sold my Bionic and got the G. Nexus. The pentile on the Bionic drove me NUTS, but I LOVE this screen. I don't see ANY screen door effect, and I have loaded a few HD Videos on it and watching them is GORGEOUS. The colors are amazing and blacks are better then my 55" Samsung LED with an 8 million:1 contrast ratio. My roommate has the iPhone 4, and his draw dropped at this screen, and we held it right next to the iPhone 4. Only complaint is video recording is shaky, glad they are adding video stabilization in 4.0.3. OH, and I looked at my battery usage and the display is 68%. I bought the 2100mAh battery (for 25 bux, and barely any size change why not) and am getting a good 8-9 hours with a lot of use out of it which is about what I got on my Bionic with the 2760mAh extended battery. So maybe the screen is just by far, the most power intensive component, hence the high percentage of battery use. Anyway, this phone, like all others, could use improvements in some areas, but I absolutely LOVE it. And am SO GLAD to be rid of my Bionic (GOOD RIDDANCE)
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Which is why I call this thread bullcrap. I'm not trying to be some android shrill, but telltale signs like "iPhone is perfect" and "I can tell its pentile" stand out.
No, you can't tell it's pentile (no one has been able to and I doubt he's placed his screen under a microscope).
Maybe you should have bought the iPhone 4 instead.
I thought it was obvious this person is an apple troll. C'mon. Iphone being better with it's 3.5" screen being compared to a true hd amoled that is first gen. Makes the iphone better? Please. Also, you knew you were buying into an early adoption on all kinds of fronts. Get a blackberry and be done with it.
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nosympathy said:
they are all kinda like this. Some worse than others. I just don't mind it as much. What is killing me is the camera...it is so bad...
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The camera on this Nexus is crazy amazing compared to my previous Thunderbolt! The quality of the pictures is about the same but I can now snap pictures, with flash, almost as fast as I can press the button. On the Thunderbolt it is one picture every 5 seconds or so. Amazing!
I use my Gn a lot while driving, and usually listening to some Audiobooks in a program called "AudioBook Player Free"
(link to market https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwyLDEsImNvbS5mcm1hLmF1ZGlvQm9va1BsYXllcjIiXQ..)
Notmally the screen is always on in auto bright mode...
Now, in dark screens and in whote screen the controls seens to be bruned in the screen asll the time...
I used to do that with my Atrix (LCD screen) and nothing like that ever happened..
Can that be a fauld in super Amoled Screens?
Can it be undone?
Thanks...
(will try to post a picture, but its hard cause I don't have a really nice camera that can get the colors right...)
I had this problem with my samsung fascinate. I really hope this isn't the case with thus phone
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Had the same with my first galaxy s. I guess it affects all the amoled phones.
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no way to maybe recalibrate the pixels or anything?
That sucks.. if thats the price you have to pay for the amoled screens, I'll start choosing phones with lcd then
Yes amoled get burn in very easily. Never leave a static image on the screen for long periods.
Search the burn in thread we already talk about it.
This bugs the **** out of me about the Gnex.
It's literally my only complaint...but one I knew I would have before purchasing.
This is also why I hide my navbar all the time.
You'll probably also notice a navbar burn in if you turn it off/use a video that turns it off.
I, however, use almost the lowest brightness at all times.
This also helps reduce burn.
used my old galaxy s 1.5 years and never had issues with its super-amoled screen.
GSMArena did a display test on the galaxy S3 and it is much brighter at full brightness. Galaxy note is also much brighter so why is it that the nexus has such a dim HD SAMOLED screen?? Is it software based so people dont end up with terrible battery time??
I so so wish the nexus can have brighter screen, my biggest complaint with the phone.
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GSMArena did a display test on the galaxy S3 and it is much brighter at full brightness. Galaxy note is also much brighter so why is it that the nexus has such a dim HD SAMOLED screen?? Is it software based so people dont end up with terrible battery time??
I so so wish the nexus can have brighter screen, my biggest complaint with the phone.
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Probably better for Q &A, but AOSP and vanilla Google Android has always been overly aggressive about auto brightness and keeps it quite dim more often than not. It can, and is modified by OEMs and some custom roms.
I'm not sure my screen is as dim as what other owners claim theirs to be. I have it on auto-brightness and I don't have an issue with bright outdoors or indoor. I'm not sure I'd like it to be any brighter than it already is.
Maybe I'm not used to having my screen burn a hole in my cornea.
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Probably better for Q &A, but AOSP and vanilla Google Android has always been overly aggressive about auto brightness and keeps it quite dim more often than not. It can, and is modified by OEMs and some custom roms.
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I am talking about full manual brightness, auto brightness is never perfect on any phone but it actually isnt dim at all on my nexus S.
Dunno. I am not about to go run to Best Buy and compare, but full on brightness on my phone is uncomfortably bright in the dark and dimly lit areas, and very visible in direct sunlight.
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I'm not sure my screen is as dim as what other owners claim theirs to be. I have it on auto-brightness and I don't have an issue with bright outdoors or indoor. I'm not sure I'd like it to be any brighter than it already is.
Maybe I'm not used to having my screen burn a hole in my cornea.
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I tried the phone at a very brightly lit shop. Put the brightness to maximum manually and yet it was barely brighter than my nexus S at 50% brightness.
Brightness isnt a contest where every phone should try to beat others but it should be sufficient enough. I just think the nexus brightness isnt sufficient, it tops out at 200 nits when the minimum should be 300 nits for comfortable use in all environments.
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I tried the phone at a very brightly lit shop. Put the brightness to maximum manually and yet it was barely brighter than my nexus S at 50% brightness.
Brightness isnt a contest where every phone should try to beat others but it should be sufficient enough. I just think the nexus brightness isnt sufficient, it tops out at 200 nits when the minimum should be 300 nits for comfortable use in all environments.
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Maybe it is your phone then. I can tell you this device is easily as bright as my old Samsung Fascinate, which isn't much different from the Nexus S in screen tech.
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Maybe it is your phone then. I can tell you this device is easily as bright as my old Samsung Fascinate, which isn't much different from the Nexus S in screen tech.
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GSMArena and anandtech tests also show the galaxy nexus is the dimmest screen you will find in any of the high end android phones. A test done here on xda also showed the same thing.
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GSMArena and anandtech tests also show the galaxy nexus is the dimmest screen you will find in any of the high end android phones. A test done here on xda also showed the same thing.
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Do you want a discussion, or do you want to discount what I am saying just to argue?
Don't ask for an opinion if you are just looking for a way to discount it.
Your sites cannot vouch for my experience.
If your phone can only match 50% of what the Nexus S can in brightness, there is something wrong with it. That or you are exaggerating. This is in my opinion, but I think it is a very valid point.
The screen seems to be limited in brightness from the factory, as a matter of settings. Using AOKP Rom and increasing the color multipliers makes the screen much, much brighter, but i've read speculation that it could cause the screen to burn-in images much faster, which logically speaking, seems to make sense. Maybe it's limited by Samsung for that reason. This particular panel seems slightly more prone to image retention than the one on my Droid Charge, granted it isn't the same as burn-in, but maybe an indicator of inclination toward it...
The GSIII probably gets 2 mins of battery life. A screen that bright on 4 Cortex A9's and 4 mali 400's at 32nm....the battery is going to SUCK.
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Do you want a discussion, or do you want to discount what I am saying just to argue?
Don't ask for an opinion if you are just looking for a way to discount it.
Your sites cannot vouch for my experience.
If your phone can only match 50% of what the Nexus S can in brightness, there is something wrong with it. That or you are exaggerating. This is in my opinion, but I think it is a very valid point.
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I was not asking for opinions if the screen is dim or not but why is it. It wasnt my phone but a demo model at the shop. My experience showed me it was dim just like I had read in reviews.
I have an LCD nexus S, I am sure the AMOLED one at 50% wont be almost as bright as gnexus at 100. You know LCD's can get much brighter and the one on nexus S is particularly really bright.
I also compared galaxy nexus side by side with galaxy S2 and the difference was noticeable in brightness.
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The GSIII probably gets 2 mins of battery life. A screen that bright on 4 Cortex A9's and 4 mali 400's at 32nm....the battery is going to SUCK.
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The GS3 is only 300 nits bright, it isnt anything out of the ordinary. The one X has 500 nits screen.
And nobody is forced to keep the screen on high brightness, it's just an option to have a really bright screen and a pretty good one at that.
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I also compared galaxy nexus side by side with galaxy S2 and the difference was noticeable in brightness.
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I thought of it when you mentioned the GS2 - I had that phone for a week when it was released on Sprint, and any time the screen brightness was turned up and the screen was on for a few minutes, it would overheat and the OS forced it to low brightness until it cooled. At the time it was an issue quite a few people seemed to be having, so maybe it's limited on the Nexus for temp reasons too. As Smokeey had mentioned, battery life could be a factor as well.
Do you even OWN a GNex? I swear you're just here to troll the device.
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I have a nexus S currently. <--- Yesterday's date.
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Do you even OWN a GNex? I swear you're just here to troll the device.
Originally Posted by Gambler_3
I have a nexus S currently. <--- Yesterday's date.
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Why cant I post if I dont have the device? I am thinking about upgrade from nexus S and I just made some threads about the potential issues I discovered about the device.
As long as you can see the screen who cares how bright it is. Are you trying to light up a room with it? Also, keep your phone on full brightness and you will be highly risking screen burn in so I would not recommend keeping it on full anyway even if it is not as bright as other devices.
Why would anyone purchase a phone or not purchase a phone based on it being the brightest screen out there. I can understand if you couldn't see the screen, but really? And now with the ability to change the colors and gamma of the screen, it just looks great.
So if you get the Nexus and keep the screen turned all the way up because you needed to light up your house to save money on electricity, please don't start a thread complaining about burn in.
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As long as you can see the screen who cares how bright it is. Are you trying to light up a room with it? Also, keep your phone on full brightness and you will be highly risking screen burn in so I would not recommend keeping it on full anyway even if it is not as bright as other devices.
Why would anyone purchase a phone or not purchase a phone based on it being the brightest screen out there. I can understand if you couldn't see the screen, but really? And now with the ability to change the colors and gamma of the screen, it just looks great.
So if you get the Nexus and keep the screen turned all the way up because you needed to light up your house to save money on electricity, please don't start a thread complaining about burn in.
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And wtf? My eyes Hurt if I put full brightness.. And even if I try to read on direct sun i can do easy.. I use my phone on 25% brightness and thats enough
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As long as you can see the screen who cares how bright it is. Are you trying to light up a room with it? Also, keep your phone on full brightness and you will be highly risking screen burn in so I would not recommend keeping it on full anyway even if it is not as bright as other devices.
Why would anyone purchase a phone or not purchase a phone based on it being the brightest screen out there. I can understand if you couldn't see the screen, but really? And now with the ability to change the colors and gamma of the screen, it just looks great.
So if you get the Nexus and keep the screen turned all the way up because you needed to light up your house to save money on electricity, please don't start a thread complaining about burn in.
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hehe, i bought googles flagship for 450€ and i need to care how long is screen on and i cant have it on full brightness all the time becouse i "risking screen burn"?
Ah keep LCD phone on full brightness and deal with the terrible blacks. Keep an AMOLED phone on full brightness and deal with burn-in. A perfect world we do not live in.
On a serious note screen brightness matters most when going out in the sun obviously. It can never be too bright when you are out.
On many phones or laptops the screen blinks really fast (probably to preserve energy). Many people seem to be ok with /don't notice that, but it really drives me nuts when a device does this. There's no way for me to preview how the screen works before buying, so please tell me - does Galaxy Nexus' screen blink? (And I mean really fast turn off - turn ons, like 60 times per seconds or so)
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On many phones or laptops the screen blinks really fast (probably to preserve energy). Many people seem to be ok with /don't notice that, but it really drives me nuts when a device does this. There's no way for me to preview how the screen works before buying, so please tell me - does Galaxy Nexus' screen blink? (And I mean really fast turn off - turn ons, like 60 times per seconds or so)
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You mean refresh rate? ALL screens have a refresh rate. That's how the image changes. As for the Max refresh rate for the gnex panel, I'm assuming it's 60hz, which is standard for most android phones.
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Are you talking about the Auto brightness flashing when the screen changes brightness or the refresh rate. The flashing with Auto brightness can be fixed with a rom that lets you change the auto brightness. You can search the forums on how to do that with CM9. The refresh rate is stuck the way it is no way to change that. I do not think i have ever seen a refresh rate problem.
I've never seen nor experienced anything similar to this. Or even heard of it anywhere except on the One X.
I am okay with it although I am not bothered even at 50Hz, some people can be extremely sensitive and there's no way out of that. I watched lots of Nexus reviews on youtube and I never seen the screen flicker effects. 50fps videos looks very smooth on Nexus.
For America, there is the Nexus for Sprint and Verizon so you might be able to try them out in the store.
This video shows the SIII flickered like crazy, but isn't a problem in other reviews, so I guess its either his camcorder fps or a problem with his SIII unit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DQ_UAtrnOg&feature=plcp
I'm not talking about the refresh rate I mean the backlight of the screen blinking independently, very fast. You can see it on many older Nokia phones, but recently I found out that my new Samsung Netbook does this and it drives me nuts! There's no way to change it, I think it's physically built into the device
Samsung phones use AMOLED screen which they manufacture. I don't know a lot about OLED technology, but the pixels light up themselves, therefore backlight is not used with OLED screens. AMOLED screen can achieve exceptional black level and high contrast ratio. As for how fast the subpixels in an AMOLED screen blink, I have no idea.
Before you get the Nexus, you should also read up on Pentile matrix versus RGB matrix. The Nexus and SIII use Pentile matrix making things appears grainier on close up. But for me, the Nexus screen is beautiful.
If you can find a store that sells a galaxy nexus, head in and see if you can see that "blinking". Personally, I haven't seen that blinking issue on my gnex.
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That's what I would do if I didn't live in Poland It was very surprising to me how little known is this phone in here
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I'm not talking about the refresh rate I mean the backlight of the screen blinking independently, very fast. You can see it on many older Nokia phones, but recently I found out that my new Samsung Netbook does this and it drives me nuts! There's no way to change it, I think it's physically built into the device
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No it doesn't flicker. Its an amoled screen so there is no traditional backlight. Individual pixels light up rather than needing a backlight.
Nexus has no flicker. Its smooth as butter.
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Samsung phones use AMOLED screen which they manufacture. I don't know a lot about OLED technology, but the pixels light up themselves, therefore backlight is not used with OLED screens. AMOLED screen can achieve exceptional black level and high contrast ratio. As for how fast the subpixels in an AMOLED screen blink, I have no idea.
Before you get the Nexus, you should also read up on Pentile matrix versus RGB matrix. The Nexus and SIII use Pentile matrix making things appears grainier on close up. But for me, the Nexus screen is beautiful.
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You need a damn microscope to even tell the screen is pentile. Or hold the phone directly in front of your face.