I read, I watched, I searched, I bricked(Hard) - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

So just got this phone a couple of weeks ago. I feel like Im no stranger to rooting/flashing, but obviously Im no expert. Ive flashed custom roms on ppc6600, ppc6700, Treo 600w, HTC Diamond, Palm Pre(rooted it, no roms), Samsung Moment, Hero, Evo 4g, Evo 3d, Hp touchpad, and for a few weeks my Epic Touch4g. Ive never had a single problem until today. I must admit when I got this phone, for the first time I was actually scared to root it/flash roms. I read and re-read everything I could find, and finally took the plunge. I had great luck until I tried to flash the jellybean port.
I was originally on Agats rom tFF18_v0.1.0 which I flashed through ODIN. I tried a few other TW roms but ultimately kept Agats rom as my nandroid back up. Since it was a safe kernel/recovery I would always restore my nandroid to do any wipes or flashes. I thought this was being safe.
This morning I updated the kernel with AGAT_v0.3.0 with tREC_v0.2.1 7/19/12, which I flashed through agats recovery. Worked fine. I then wanted to try out CM9. So heres what I did:
I downloaded/flashed the newest nightly and Gapps and flashed them in Agats recovery which worked fine. I loved CM9 so I made a nandroid back up along with my other agat rom backup. I did notice that it was a different recovery but just assumed it was safe since it was a newer nightly. (Mistake?)
I kept CM9 for a few hours and saw that a JB port was available on androidcentral. Had flashed enough without issue, so I thought I try it out.
Heres where I screwed up.
I downloaded the JB port, JB gapps and it said to get chris41g's [Kernel][AOSP] Safe CWM6/TWRP which I did.
First I wiped data(full wipe), cache, and dalvik, then tried to flash the rom in CMW recovery that came with CM9. It gave me an error and aborted the flash.
Then I rebooted the phone back into CM9 because I thought maybe I had a bad download. I went back to the site reread the OP and noticed I was supposed to flash chris41g's recovery first, so I went back into recovery, flashed the Kernel, rebooted back into recovery and tried to flash JB. I didnt wipe anything, I just flashed it. It seemed to do its normal thing, but the progress bar never grew, it just sat there. I let it sit for like 10mins and the next thing I noticed, the screen was off. I picked up the phone, hit the power button.....nothing except the blue light I had read so much about.
I accept full responsibility for what I did. But to be honest, Im really confused what I did wrong. I was under the impression that most bricks happened when doing wipes? This happened when flashing the rom, which Im sure wipes before flashing, so maybe that where I had the problem? Im gonna go to sprint tomorrow and see if they can help, so hopefully Ill get a replacement, but I DONT want it to happen again. Sorry for the MAJORLY long post, but I wanted to be thorough with my explanation so I dont make the same mistake, and maybe someone else could learn from my screw up.
If possible, please be gentle, I already feel like a total idiot.......
EDIT: BTW, if I didnt make it clear, Im COMPLETELY aware this was my fault. I knew what I was getting into, and messed up somewhere by not FOLLOWING directions to a tee.

Your mistake was not wiping anything at the jb flash part.
Plus i think people was flashing jb using the el26 recovery (cwm5) but dont quote me on that i havent read the jb flash procedure throughly
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Sometimes stuff like that just happens... Let us know how the replacement goes
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I read somewhere they wont release the jb post on here because of all the bricks that was going on. Tell sprint u prolonged the ics update and ignored it. Then u finally decided to install and it would not boot at all
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rovar said:
Your mistake was not wiping anything at the jb flash part.
Plus i think people was flashing jb using the el26 recovery (cwm5) but dont quote me on that i havent read the jb flash procedure throughly
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Yeah I thought people were using Chris41g's EL26 CWM as well. Sbrissen himself said when in doubt use EL.

Thanks for the responses guys. My phone now has no solid blue light. Just a VERY VERY dim flashing blue light. Its been plugged in for the charger for like 2 hours. Is it possible maybe something just went wrong with battery? It was plugged in when I flashed, and the battery was pretty full, but not topped off...

vinscuzzy said:
So just got this phone a couple of weeks ago. I feel like Im no stranger to rooting/flashing, but obviously Im no expert. Ive flashed custom roms on ppc6600, ppc6700, Treo 600w, HTC Diamond, Palm Pre(rooted it, no roms), Samsung Moment, Hero, Evo 4g, Evo 3d, Hp touchpad, and for a few weeks my Epic Touch4g. Ive never had a single problem until today. I must admit when I got this phone, for the first time I was actually scared to root it/flash roms. I read and re-read everything I could find, and finally took the plunge. I had great luck until I tried to flash the jellybean port.
I was originally on Agats rom tFF18_v0.1.0 which I flashed through ODIN. I tried a few other TW roms but ultimately kept Agats rom as my nandroid back up. Since it was a safe kernel/recovery I would always restore my nandroid to do any wipes or flashes. I thought this was being safe.
This morning I updated the kernel with AGAT_v0.3.0 with tREC_v0.2.1 7/19/12, which I flashed through agats recovery. Worked fine. I then wanted to try out CM9. So heres what I did:
I downloaded/flashed the newest nightly and Gapps and flashed them in Agats recovery which worked fine. I loved CM9 so I made a nandroid back up along with my other agat rom backup. I did notice that it was a different recovery but just assumed it was safe since it was a newer nightly. (Mistake?)
I kept CM9 for a few hours and saw that a JB port was available on androidcentral. Had flashed enough without issue, so I thought I try it out.
Heres where I screwed up.
I downloaded the JB port, JB gapps and it said to get chris41g's [Kernel][AOSP] Safe CWM6/TWRP which I did.
First I wiped data(full wipe), cache, and dalvik, then tried to flash the rom in CMW recovery that came with CM9. It gave me an error and aborted the flash.
Then I rebooted the phone back into CM9 because I thought maybe I had a bad download. I went back to the site reread the OP and noticed I was supposed to flash chris41g's recovery first, so I went back into recovery, flashed the Kernel, rebooted back into recovery and tried to flash JB. I didnt wipe anything, I just flashed it. It seemed to do its normal thing, but the progress bar never grew, it just sat there. I let it sit for like 10mins and the next thing I noticed, the screen was off. I picked up the phone, hit the power button.....nothing except the blue light I had read so much about.
I accept full responsibility for what I did. But to be honest, Im really confused what I did wrong. I was under the impression that most bricks happened when doing wipes? This happened when flashing the rom, which Im sure wipes before flashing, so maybe that where I had the problem? Im gonna go to sprint tomorrow and see if they can help, so hopefully Ill get a replacement, but I DONT want it to happen again. Sorry for the MAJORLY long post, but I wanted to be thorough with my explanation so I dont make the same mistake, and maybe someone else could learn from my screw up.
If possible, please be gentle, I already feel like a total idiot.......
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I like story's like this that are long very interesting when bored I'm sorry for your lost...try simple small stuff like the stable good looking fully working roms
sent from my DeRpY SuPeRsOnIc

vinscuzzy said:
Thanks for the responses guys. My phone now has no solid blue light. Just a VERY VERY dim flashing blue light. Its been plugged in for the charger for like 2 hours. Is it possible maybe something just went wrong with battery? It was plugged in when I flashed, and the battery was pretty full, but not topped off...
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Seems unlikely to be the battery, sorry bud :/ seems like your issue was not wiping anything before flashing the jb rom. Not to mention the jelly bean port is unstable as is. And the ics recoveries. I don't care if people say they're safe, i still odin to el26 to flash. I would've stayed away from jb regardless. But thanks for being mature about what happened, you more than most bricks actually seem like you're careful and read.
Swyped from a Galaxy S2

vinscuzzy said:
So just got this phone a couple of weeks ago. I feel like Im no stranger to rooting/flashing, but obviously Im no expert. Ive flashed custom roms on ppc6600, ppc6700, Treo 600w, HTC Diamond, Palm Pre(rooted it, no roms), Samsung Moment, Hero, Evo 4g, Evo 3d, Hp touchpad, and for a few weeks my Epic Touch4g. Ive never had a single problem until today. I must admit when I got this phone, for the first time I was actually scared to root it/flash roms. I read and re-read everything I could find, and finally took the plunge. I had great luck until I tried to flash the jellybean port.
I was originally on Agats rom tFF18_v0.1.0 which I flashed through ODIN. I tried a few other TW roms but ultimately kept Agats rom as my nandroid back up. Since it was a safe kernel/recovery I would always restore my nandroid to do any wipes or flashes. I thought this was being safe.
This morning I updated the kernel with AGAT_v0.3.0 with tREC_v0.2.1 7/19/12, which I flashed through agats recovery. Worked fine. I then wanted to try out CM9. So heres what I did:
I downloaded/flashed the newest nightly and Gapps and flashed them in Agats recovery which worked fine. I loved CM9 so I made a nandroid back up along with my other agat rom backup. I did notice that it was a different recovery but just assumed it was safe since it was a newer nightly. (Mistake?)
I kept CM9 for a few hours and saw that a JB port was available on androidcentral. Had flashed enough without issue, so I thought I try it out.
Heres where I screwed up.
I downloaded the JB port, JB gapps and it said to get chris41g's [Kernel][AOSP] Safe CWM6/TWRP which I did.
First I wiped data(full wipe), cache, and dalvik, then tried to flash the rom in CMW recovery that came with CM9. It gave me an error and aborted the flash.
Then I rebooted the phone back into CM9 because I thought maybe I had a bad download. I went back to the site reread the OP and noticed I was supposed to flash chris41g's recovery first, so I went back into recovery, flashed the Kernel, rebooted back into recovery and tried to flash JB. I didnt wipe anything, I just flashed it. It seemed to do its normal thing, but the progress bar never grew, it just sat there. I let it sit for like 10mins and the next thing I noticed, the screen was off. I picked up the phone, hit the power button.....nothing except the blue light I had read so much about.
I accept full responsibility for what I did. But to be honest, Im really confused what I did wrong. I was under the impression that most bricks happened when doing wipes? This happened when flashing the rom, which Im sure wipes before flashing, so maybe that where I had the problem? Im gonna go to sprint tomorrow and see if they can help, so hopefully Ill get a replacement, but I DONT want it to happen again. Sorry for the MAJORLY long post, but I wanted to be thorough with my explanation so I dont make the same mistake, and maybe someone else could learn from my screw up.
If possible, please be gentle, I already feel like a total idiot.......
EDIT: BTW, if I didnt make it clear, Im COMPLETELY aware this was my fault. I knew what I was getting into, and messed up somewhere by not FOLLOWING directions to a tee.
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Where did you have the JB ROM located, on your internal memory or your SDcard?
And wait, Flashing blue light? When mine bricked using the same methods you were using, save for the lack of wiping and I used calk's wipeall before flashing, I had a solid blue light.
Eh, Least now I have a paperweight with a nice light on it for now.

Ophois said:
Where did you have the JB ROM located, on your internal memory or your SDcard?
And wait, Flashing blue light? When mine bricked using the same methods you were using, save for the lack of wiping and I used calk's wipeall before flashing, I had a solid blue light.
Eh, Least now I have a paperweight with a nice light on it for now.
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it was on the internal memory. And yeah, its weird. It started as a solid blue light for like an hour. I plugged in the charger and a few hours later I thought the light was completely off, but if you look real close, its a super dim flashing blue light.

vinscuzzy said:
it was on the internal memory. And yeah, its weird. It started as a solid blue light for like an hour. I plugged in the charger and a few hours later I thought the light was completely off, but if you look real close, its a super dim flashing blue light.
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Alright, That's two people who got a brick and had flashed it from their internal.
I'll try and get ahold of the other user who bricked their device and find where they had it and from there, We'll know a probable cause and how to prevent it.

I flashed sb's jb from internal. no problem here.
on el26.

please not I am not trying to be a wise ass; however have you read through this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495 ? I have "bricked" a few times and have been able to revive my phone using Odin (the pc version). seems as long as you can get the phone into "download" mode (volume rocker down and power button) be sure to check out QBKing77's posts on YouTube. you have nothing to lose and everything to gain
good luck

al_b said:
please not I am not trying to be a wise ass; however have you read through this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495 ? I have "bricked" a few times and have been able to revive my phone using Odin (the pc version). seems as long as you can get the phone into "download" mode (volume rocker down and power button) be sure to check out QBKing77's posts on YouTube. you have nothing to lose and everything to gain
good luck
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Yeah, that was the post that scared me to even root the phone. I can't get into download mode, and have been trying every combination of turning it on, vol up/dwn, plugging it in without the battery, tried different cables, chargers, scoured all the different Samsung forums to see if there was a way to force into download mode, nothing. Its completely dead. I got this phone right around the time the kernel source got released and that post hasn't been updated since may, so I kinda came to the conclusion(stupidly) that maybe the problem had been fixed. I wasn't around for all the leaks that were causing the bricks.

not being able to get into download mode = not good. there are also dongles out there that cost $5 +/-. might work. I believe you mentioned you have insurance, if that is true take the device to your local corporate Sprint store and play "Micky the dunce" i.e. I have no idea what happened to it; I was updating my PRL and this is what happened ... of course if you accidently backed over it with your car on the way to the store that may dissuade them from trying to resurrect it

vinscuzzy said:
Yeah, that was the post that scared me to even root the phone. I can't get into download mode, and have been trying every combination of turning it on, vol up/dwn, plugging it in without the battery, tried different cables, chargers, scoured all the different Samsung forums to see if there was a way to force into download mode, nothing. Its completely dead. I got this phone right around the time the kernel source got released and that post hasn't been updated since may, so I kinda came to the conclusion(stupidly) that maybe the problem had been fixed. I wasn't around for all the leaks that were causing the bricks.
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the MMC_CAP_ERASE code that causes the emmc controller to bug out and brick is still present in the FF18 kernel, entropy512 has been in contact with samsung about this, but last time i read the emmc thread a a few days ago he was still having difficulty convincing samsung that it was actually their code directly causing all these bricks... sorry about the brick, I just spent some time with cm10 and the vanilla jb rom and thanks to you and the other gentleman that bricked flashing from internal sd I double checked that the zips were on the external... so at least you've helped some of us out! good luck with sprint

does DirectoryBind_0.2.0k.apk help with the EMMC freakiness? a month or so ago this was useful work around. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262&highlight=directorybind

gershee said:
I flashed sb's jb from internal. no problem here.
on el26.
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That is the difference, The other two and I appear to have flashed it from internal but we were using CWM6.
I guess CWM6+Internal=brick whereas EL26+Internal=good to go
Though this is all conjecture, I cannot be completely sure with such a small sample size.

When I was little I once had a jelly bean stuck in my nose.
Good luck.
Pp.
Delivered to you via Mayan technology .

No worries happened to me too( sadly :/). On the lighter/much, much darker side[you choose] sprint reps. won't be able to look at your phones files probably. When it happened to me the tech just came out with the 'WTF?' face and said what did you do, to which I replied "I applied the EL29 update and my phone bricked" cheers.
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HELP! I rooted my phone and not touchwiz is gone

Hello,
Last night I rooted my device using this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265429) method and file from zedomax and everything worked great except when I booted my device there was a yellow triangle with a black “!” in it. I figured that just indicated the device was rooted or running a 3rd party kernel so I didn’t worry about it.
Today I launched my camera app and it failed to load the interface but showed the image from the camera momentary then crashed back to the home screen. I restarted my device and when the device restarted it was very slow and unresponsive and after unlocking it my live wallpaper was gone replaced with the last background I used before selecting a live background a couple weeks back. No icons or widgets loaded and I am unable to open the settings tray. The only things I am able to do with the phone is pull down the notification bar, respond to text messages, adjust the volume and hold power to restart the phone. All of which are very slow and delayed.
When I connect the device to my computer windows is no longer able to load the drivers and Kies is unable to connect with the device. I am not sure what caused this or how to resolve this issue so any advice or known fixes would be fantastic! I am unable to get to clockwork mod to restore my backup and I am unable to get to Kies or the phone settings to do a factory reset so I really don’t know what to do they were supposed to be a last resort and now I don’t even think I can do them. I am an experienced techie but I am new to android and this is the first device I have rooted so any advice would be great no matter how basic it may be.
UPDATE: I just connected the phone via USB to my laptop at work and it was able to discover and install everything it needed to connect with the phone. I am installing Kies now so at least there is hope of a factory restore, although I really hope it doesn't come to that!
Boot into download mode and flash the stock eg30 tar file from crawrj.
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
Thanks Already started doing that waiting for it to download now
Still no touchwiz... great!
Try flashing a stock rom via clockworkmod.
efarley said:
Still no touchwiz... great!
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You can root again and restore your backup, or go to this website www.lostandtired.com (midnight roms blog) click on android development and download and flash the sprint bloat and TW restore zip. Hope that helps.
I flashed the stock rom which didn't change anything so then I used clockworkMod to do a factory reset which ended up trapping me into a boot loop. I could use Odin to flash new roms but the device would never go past the 4G logo
I ended up taking the device back to Best Buy and since the loading screen showed the stock rom and they couldn't get past the 4G logo I just had to say it wasn't rooted and they gave me a new one.
I would love to know if anyone has any idea of what went wrong here so that I can feel comfortable rooting again. Also if anyone has some basic articles handy that teach basics of rooting that would be great, I didn't even know about clockwork mod until after I had this problem so knowing things like that earlier would have helped a lot I think. I'll be spending the weekend looking up everything I can find on the subject so any reading you guys can suggest would be fantastic.
efarley said:
I flashed the stock rom which didn't change anything so then I used clockworkMod to do a factory reset which ended up trapping me into a boot loop. I could use Odin to flash new roms but the device would never go past the 4G logo
I ended up taking the device back to Best Buy and since the loading screen showed the stock rom and they couldn't get past the 4G logo I just had to say it wasn't rooted and they gave me a new one.
I would love to know if anyone has any idea of what went wrong here so that I can feel comfortable rooting again. Also if anyone has some basic articles handy that teach basics of rooting that would be great, I didn't even know about clockwork mod until after I had this problem so knowing things like that earlier would have helped a lot I think. I'll be spending the weekend looking up everything I can find on the subject so any reading you guys can suggest would be fantastic.
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If you a clockwork and "stock rom" you were still rooted...Doing a factory reset will send you into bootloop when rooted. Trying to flash other roms on a bootloop is not going to work. You need to have grabbed a backup such as Zedo has on his post and put the backup in clockwork folder on your phone. Then flash that in CWM. Would of brought you out of bootloop to a stock rom with his kernal. Now you can flash Roms and kernals or could of flashed crawf or anyone else FULL stock rom and been back to stock kernel and rom and not rooted.
dallastx said:
If you a clockwork and "stock rom" you were still rooted...Doing a factory reset will send you into bootloop when rooted. Trying to flash other roms on a bootloop is not going to work. You need to have grabbed a backup such as Zedo has on his post and put the backup in clockwork folder on your phone. Then flash that in CWM. Would of brought you out of bootloop to a stock rom with his kernal. Now you can flash Roms and kernals or could of flashed crawf or anyone else FULL stock rom and been back to stock kernel and rom and not rooted.
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Ohhhh that's what happened! Awesome thanks. I will be much better prepared with backups out the wazoo this time haha.
Now if only I could figure out why Touchwiz died in the first place hmmm....
I hope you can figure it out, just postin here to say that when I saw this thread, it reminded me of the thread over in the EVO forums about the guy who claimed that sprint removed his Sense from his phone.
Khilbron said:
I hope you can figure it out, just postin here to say that when I saw this thread, it reminded me of the thread over in the EVO forums about the guy who claimed that sprint removed his Sense from his phone.
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haha SPRINT removed it?! So that person thinks sprint monitors every device and has a team of techies on staff to hack your phone and brick it if you break their rules?... yeah that totally makes more sense than a file got corrupted when you were messing with the kernel.. some people maybe shouldn't be rooting their devices in the first place haha

[Q] Calkulin's Rom won't allow recovery..

So I I've had 2 different recoveries so far that have worked fine.. both came from Rogue though. One was from the 1.5 kernel (Hitman) which installed CWM Touch recovery, the other came with the normal recoveries based off CW 5.0.2.7. They were working fine until I installed Calkulin's Rom(2.8.1). Not sure if they're just incompatible or what, but when I go to recovery it shows the background image of the recovery but none of the options show up. It shows for about half a second and then it goes back to the original boot screen, then to the 2nd screen and turns on. So it basically skips right through the recovery and reboots. Do I need a new Rom or can I fix this? I really like the battery life and visuals of Calkulin's Rom and would love to be able to keep it.
EDIT: One more thing.. Since I installed the ROM, I've been getting market error 492. It doesn't allow me to install anything in the market..
I haven't tried a full wipe yet, so I guess I'll try that and then see how that works with the recovery and Rom..
I did the same thing to my phone this week, and I'm running Blazer, so i'm sure it has nothing to do with either ROM.
Not sure how I caused it but with so many folks running both without this error, I'm guessing that your issue (like mine was) was probably some how self induced.
I flashed back to stock and started over, and things have been working great. Might be worth a shot flashing back, or restore a backup and start fresh.
Haven't seen the market error before. I'm sure someone here has
Good Luck
If you got it off here, could you show me which stock you flashed..?
Everything you need is in the Epic 4G Touch Android Development section
Here is the post I used from Sfhub
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
Watch the videos by Qbking77 They walk you thru everything step by step. (I hear his video intro rif every time I close my eyes now so you've been warned) Makes it super easy.
I would read everything you can and watch the videos before you get in too deep. I've had this phone since December, and just flashed my 1st ROM this week cause I've been reading up, and learning all I could before I jumped in the pool.
Well I've done all this with 2 phones before but I've never had this happen.. normally I just get the Rom and I'm good to go..
I think I must've gone wrong somewhere when I originally rooted through a stock rom.. It already seems to be more respondful.
premo1 said:
I think I must've gone wrong somewhere when I originally rooted through a stock rom.. It already seems to be more respondful.
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Try booting while holding the volume up and power button.
If that does not work, flash recovery from rom manager, and that should get you into recovery to flash whatever kernel/recovery u want.
I've done all that.. None of it works.. I'm currently ODIN'ing Factory Stock Rom with root. Hopefully after that I can redo all of these and eventually end up with a working, corresponding Rom and kernel..
premo1 said:
I've done all that.. None of it works.. I'm currently ODIN'ing Factory Stock Rom with root. Hopefully after that I can redo all of these and eventually end up with a working, corresponding Rom and kernel..
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Good Luck.
Recovery and market are now working Thank you Adanorm!
Glad your back up and running

[Q] Random Reboots

Hello,
I am new to this forum, so If this is the wrong place I do apologize.
Ive recently purchased a new ET4G and decided to root it. I had another one rooted with no problems. Ive been using a couple different roms and this random reboot has became more frequent and has followed me with each ROM.
I have tried to ODIN back to a stock ICS build with Root and then flashing ROMS over again. I still received the same problem.
I am currently using FD26 stock with the addition of root. When the reboots happen. It seems to drain my battery drastically.
Example:This morning at 50% phone reboots and I am at 9% when it comes back on. After a couple reboots it becomes stuck and only a battery pull will allow it to reboot once again.
Anytime I flash a ROM I always follow the recommended flashing method. I do all the appropriate wipes. Id usually think It was the kernel, but even after trying different kernels the issue still happened.
If anyone could shed some light on what could be happening. I would be very appreciative.
do you do complete wipes prior to flashing?
Yes, I do. I usually wipe Davlik and then will run Caulkins format all zip before I flash any Rom. I always odin back to EL26 w/ CWM to flash through to avoid any conflicts with that.
I have no idea what to try next. I've went back to stock a couple times.
This same thing was happening to me honestly about 10 reboots a day and sometimes it would drain me down about 50% battery. I odined back to stock gingerbread using sfhubs latest method, reinstalled clockwork mod and have not had one reboot since. I think I may have heard though that the fd26 build has reboot issues so I would look into that as well. Though I see that you have tried what I have said not sure if you used sfhubs method or not but if so I would just take it back to sprint.
Have you tried flashing this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
I would flash the full restore and if it keeps rebooting unroot and return to Sprint for repair. In the meantime make sure you are not using a cheapo charger and even charge via usb only if its not too much trouble.
someguyatx said:
Have you tried flashing this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
I would flash the full restore and if it keeps rebooting unroot and return to Sprint for repair. In the meantime make sure you are not using a cheapo charger and even charge via usb only if its not too much trouble.
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Seriously, if you're having problems, to narrow it down you should not be on a leaked Android OS that is still in the testing stages. Always odin back to stock rooted to troubleshoot any issues, report back and we can get go from there.
Edit: If you need help getting back to stock rooted, please ask for help too.
Thanks for all the replies guys. I didn't try flashing the EL29 Restore, But I did try the EG30 and just OTA updated to EL29. It still didn't fix the reboot issue. Even when the phone wasn't rooted, it still would still power cycle. I just went ahead and restored it again and took it to sprint.
It happened about 10times while waiting to talk to a rep in the store. They didn't have a problem setting me up with a replacement. For now I will just use my old 3D. Thanks for the help though everyone.
I'm still stock EL29 till ICS comes out, but I get a reboot every couple days. It actually happened last night about 2AM and woke me up when the Sprint sound came on. Thought maybe there was some update (ICS?) that had caused it, but i didn't see any reason for it. It wasn't charging at the time and the battery was pretty full... Was hoping ICS update was going to fix this, but it doesn't sound promising.
RaheemA said:
Thanks for all the replies guys. I didn't try flashing the EL29 Restore, But I did try the EG30 and just OTA updated to EL29. It still didn't fix the reboot issue. Even when the phone wasn't rooted, it still would still power cycle. I just went ahead and restored it again and took it to sprint.
It happened about 10times while waiting to talk to a rep in the store. They didn't have a problem setting me up with a replacement. For now I will just use my old 3D. Thanks for the help though everyone.
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On a previous phone (Samsung Moment) I had that issue and it turned out to be a bad battery. They let me borrow a battery in the store and it went away.
Reboots are ICS related.
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Reboots are ICS related.
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got reboots in GB as well so I don't think its solely ICS related... IMO
Yeah... I still was hitting the problem while on Complete stock GB. The phone could have honestly had the problem prior to rooting and flashing. I didn't keep it stock long enough to know for sure haha
Probably not related, but I was having reboot problems due issues with App2SD, so i figure it is worth mentioning just in case...
Issue 25563: OS keeps rebooting when lots of apps are moved to SDcard! HUGE BUG IN ANDROID OS 2.3.5 (and higher)!

My once bricked E4GT!

To be honest,
Once I got to the rogue et recovery I cried a little (because I actually got there.)
7 hours worth of beating sleep, numb legs from sitting down, afro being dry, and Samantha (samsung support person, cause I really was going to send my phone in..)
Two batteries *thank god!
Don't really, can't explain much. Just a load of reading of the "download shabby's/acs leaked fb17...." thread, xda search tool, google, and youtube.
I'm just glad, I found some way to enable recovery. No, 2 weeks without a phone, no going to the shipping retail location, no "not having my little cloud(white e4gt) in my hand." ....cheesy
I hear birds chirping outside, wow, and the sun is starting to come up.
Now I must figure out what I need to do next in recovery, then get out this desk chair (because my dsfgh...), and go to sleep!
XDA ROCKS!
Wut? You saying you brought your E4GT back from a brick?
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How did that happen?
I'm guessing it wasn't a real brick as in blue light of death. Probably stuck in a boot loop or something.
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What type of brick lol? A soft brick all you need to do is go into download mode and ODIN over some new firmware, forget recovery lol. Unless it was a super brick from flashing ICS recovery where you luckily have recovery... your still pretty screwed. But if it was just a bootloop, soft brick the fix is simple.
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I'm guessing it wasn't a real brick as in blue light of death. Probably stuck in a boot loop or something.
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How do you fix from boot loop ( the yellow triangle )? I can get in recovery and odim but which ever rom I flash it will not boot up...only to the triangle. In the recovery mode it take very long time to format the data and setting.....waiting time is like one minute. Any help?
K.0.0.L. said:
How do you fix from boot loop ( the yellow triangle )? I can get in recovery and odim but which ever rom I flash it will not boot up...only to the triangle. In the recovery mode it take very long time to format the data and setting.....waiting time is like one minute. Any help?
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...People lack so many details. What rom where you on when the phone last worked, what were you flashing when it screwed up. What is ODIN getting stuck on?
Your either easily fixable, really screwed or completely screwed. Welcome to the 3 possibilities. Without any details for all I know your on Gingerbread and did something retarded or you were flashing in Ice Cream Sandwich and screwed yourself not following directions.
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...People lack so many details. What rom where you on when the phone last worked, what were you flashing when it screwed up. What is ODIN getting stuck on?
Your either easily fixable, really screwed or completely screwed. Welcome to the 3 possibilities. Without any details for all I know your on Gingerbread and did something retarded or you were flashing in Ice Cream Sandwich and screwed yourself not following directions.
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I was on wicked sensation and flash to AOKP build 39....It never happen to me before but somehow this time it did. I use culklins format all and during the data format it get stuck for long time then I remove the battery and it just never able to go pass beyond that. Just couple hour ago I let it sit on that process and it finally format the data and system..I then flash the AOKP but it get stuck on the boot animation......so I decided to ordin to stock kernel EL26 and now same old thing again...unable to go beyond boot loop. My custom binary download is 11 counts...........I have order the USB jig from ebay to see if it can help to erase the counts, maybe that is the issue why not booting up
K.0.0.L. said:
I was on wicked sensation and flash to AOKP build 39....It never happen to me before but somehow this time it did. I use culklins format all and during the data format it get stuck for long time then I remove the battery and it just never able to go pass beyond that. Just couple hour ago I let it sit on that process and it finally format the data and system..I then flash the AOKP but it get stuck on the boot animation......so I decided to ordin to stock kernel EL26 and now same old thing again...unable to go beyond boot loop. My custom binary download is 11 counts...........I have order the USB jig from ebay to see if it can help to erase the counts, maybe that is the issue why not booting up
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Wicked sensation is an ICS rom right? Did you flash AOKP 39 from ICS Recovery? The one thing you should not do? If the rom does not have a safe updater binary there is a high chance of super brick when flashing from even a safe ICS recovery, and even higher from the regular repacks. NEVER factory reset from any non safe ics recovery and never flash a zip in ICS recovery unless it is marked as safe to do so.
If when trying to ODIN stock firmware it gets stuck at Data.img then you really did it this time. From what I have heard there are 2 levels of the super brick. The kind where you can still get to download and recovery and the kind where you cant. Stuck on Data.img on the first kind is a bad sign.
As far as the triangle goes that comes up any time you odin an unsigned kernel etc like the el26 cwm one. It is just an indicator and should not be a part of your problem.
Flash any stock gb kernel it should remove the triangle! (ODIN)
I don't really know what's up right now...
The whole reason I'm in this mess is me changing settings when I first flashed AOKP 39. Like setting display, changing the wallpaper. Just going straight down the whole setting page.
I got to the DPI settings, changed it to something lower, 240 i think. Rebooted... Didn't like it, changed it back to the original, rebooted... the words and all were original but not the status bar, not the lock screen, not the navi bar.
It was super weird!
So I thought:
"...doing a factory reset would allow me to start fresh again. If that doesn't work, I can just start completely over(odin back to gb). that way I can install gapps(the arrangement of back and enter buttons confused me, causing me to restart)"
All of a sudden, phone didn't work. Can't really remember what happened at the time. If it went into boot loop or not. But it didn't go into the rom.
Somehow, I ending up doing stuff, since I just got it a week ago I really didn't know much, was just learning as I went. "new phone, new things to learn"
Anyways, ending up with "A" recovery, and I've always been able to get into ODIN.
recovery that works is: rogue_ET-recovery-1.2.2-FB27-rc0.tar
Now that I have some kind of recovery and odin I thought, maybe I could get back to stock. Just don't know how, thats were doing more searches came in. Still got NOTHING. lol.
I was aware of not flashing ics from an ics dadada messages. hint: i read stuff
I did a factory reset which caused all of this. Kinda know I shouldn't of done it now, ...never came across anything about not doing it at the time. I still haven't, I'll google that too.
Umm.. flashing stuff through pda doesn't work. to be more specific
when I look at the progress, it doesn't include data.img (so it PASS)
if I odin something and it says data.img, then its stuck there.
so that recovery I'm using: (volup+pwr)
bootscreen(samsung galaxy s II) -> quick led(blue) -> bootscreen(samsung galaxy s II) -> recovery
any other tries when getting into recovery WITHOUT odin rogue_ET-recovery-1.2.2-FB27-rc0.tar: (volup+pwr)
quick led(blue) -> bootscreen(samsung galaxy s II) -> quick led(blue) -> bootscreen(samsung galaxy s II) bootloop bootloop bootloop. Sometimes it will stay there for a few minutes then bootloop again.
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so right now, ....still trying to find a solution. I'm still on google and xda searching. I really don't want to do anything else because both batteries I think are nearly dead...
When I started flashing, I was on ParanoidAndroid, then I found AOKP 39. It worked, was awesome. But I did a factory reset from the settings within the rom and now Im typing this...
flashing in recovery, when trying to erase data(it doesn't work.) though cache and dalvik does.
AndroidRocksSocks said:
When I started flashing, I was on ParanoidAndroid, then I found AOKP 39. It worked, was awesome. But I did a factory reset from the settings within the rom and now Im typing this...
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Suicide.
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flashing in recovery, when trying to erase data(it doesn't work.) though cache and dalvik does.
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Because the /Data partition is borked.
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Suicide.
Because the /Data partition is borked.
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Right, had* to be something.
CPR?
If all you get is the blue led.... Its done. That's what I was seeing when I bricked my first e4gt. On AOKP it says in red all caps too, do not do anything with this kernal.. Probably not word for word, but unless its a safe recovery as stated, you can't do anything with it, not even wipes.
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If all you get is the blue led.... Its done. That's what I was seeing when I bricked my first e4gt. On AOKP it says in red all caps too, do not do anything with this kernal.. Probably not word for word, but unless its a safe recovery as stated, you can't do anything with it, not even wipes.
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....lol he already said he is getting past that. Still the same issue though he is Super Bricked.
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Right, hand to be something.
CPR?
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Your at the level where some people seemed to have been able to repartition the eMMC around the origina /Data area consuming space other partitions normally used. Its not considered stable.
There is no premenant fix that can be applied by you, a sprint store, or even jtag service. The Super Brick bug corruption occurs at the lowest possible level. You basically need Samsung to fix it, though just about anyone on the eMMC partner list technically can.
Phone replacement is the primary option or you can see about getting info about the repart here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644364
Great, ha-ha.
Well, I look into that repart info. If I can't handle it. All I have to do is print out the ups shipping label and send it in. So sad... anything I need to do when sending it in? As in, do I need to put it at some kind of "ok" state? Ugh, I hate this.
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Great, ha-ha.
Well, I look into that repart info. If I can't handle it. All I have to do is print out the ups shipping label and send it in. So sad... anything I need to do when sending it in? As in, do I need to put it at some kind of "ok" state? Ugh, I hate this.
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I would see about odining over the stock EL29 kernel but the yellow triangle is still going to say hey look at me. If that USB jig arrives should be able to reset the counter.
If its via insurance it wont matter.
RainMotorsports said:
I would see about odining over the stock EL29 kernel but the yellow triangle is still going to say hey look at me. If that USB jig arrives should be able to reset the counter.
If its via insurance it wont matter.
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Ya know, I was planning to go outside today...
This test thing looks alright though.
I guess I'll follow the steps and the following questions from others who have or are doing it.
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Ya know, I was planning to go outside today...
This test thing looks alright though.
I guess I'll follow the steps and the following questions from others who have or are doing it.
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Which test? The AOKP 37/ CM9 Alpha 5 test? That was for people wanting to flash things without bricking their phone. I think you caught my link before i changed it to the original post.
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Which test? The AOKP 37/ CM9 Alpha 5 test? That was for people wanting to flash things without bricking their phone. I think you caught my link before i changed it to the original post.
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Oh wait a min...
Right, yea I did.
This one: Discussion thread for /data EMMC lockup/corruption bug

Bad Flash Stories

Hi everybody!
I figure we should have a thread dedicated to telling horror stories about flashes gone wrong. Whether it's because of power failures, bad USB cables, poorly labeled packages, or pure user error, we've all had that moment of worry: "Did I just turn my device into a paperweight?"
It's my hope that, by sharing these stories, we can help each other realize that we're all human, we all make mistakes, and most mistakes can be recovered from. Don't be afraid to share your stories; we can't learn from each other's mistakes if nobody talks about them!
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My first story is from my Telus SGS3 (I747M, you'll see why that matters in a moment) and is definitely a user-error kind of story.
I've been playing around with CM10 and its derivatives for the past month or two (got my SGS3 on release day and it wasn't running Samsung software 3 hours later) and I'm not new to Android, having run XDAndroid on my HTC Diamond, and bouncing between CM7 and CM9 on my Milestone. The first thing I did when I got my SGS3 was a full block device backup using DD from the command line, which is the only reason I don't have a paperweight today.
I decided to try out Paranoid Android over a week ago and I've been loving it, so I haven't been flashing much lately. But, when I got back from vacation and saw that CM10 had gone into nightly builds, I couldn't resist the temptation to try a clean install. I've got folders on my SD card for ROMs, GApps, kernels, recoveries, and anything else flashable just to make my life easier. Apparently at some point I downloaded an AT&T (I747, no M) modem, stuck it in a "/modems/" folder with the rest of my flashables, but realized that it wouldn't work on my device, so I never used it. I then promptly forgot that I had put it on the SD card, and it had a fairly cryptic filename. Away I went, flashing CM10, GApps, a nice bootscreen, and... the modem.
Dammit. :crying:
At this point, I was running the newest CM10 build, but with a borked modem. I thought I had fallen victim to the IMEI bug that's been going around, but then I remembered something about that modem file not being usable on a Telus device... And had no idea how to get back to a working state. I already knew that none of my nandroid backups would have the modem in them, and the only "stock" flashables I could find were rooted kernels and a nearly-700MB "stock" package that wouldn't download any faster than 10 kb/s. I couldn't wait 20 hours for a download, I wanted my phone now! I tried using Odin with a few of the TAR packages I found, but that only made my situation worse to the point of failing to boot entirely, even restoring a nandroid wasn't helping anymore.
I started digging through the forums in the hope that someone had ripped the Telus modem into a CWM flashable zip, but had no luck. I tried both the Rogers and Bell modems with the same results. That's when I remembered that I had done a block backup, but I had no idea which block device was the modem, and my phone wouldn't even boot up to let me MTP the files over. I was left with CWM recovery as my only option, and had to ADB push 2.5 GB of .img files to the SD card, and DD them one at a time through the ADB shell.
Somehow, it all worked out, and I was back to running Stock Touchwiz with root, and was then able to restore a nandroid from yesterday and amazingly enough Paranoid Android booted up, happy as ever, and in came my emails and text messages. I know I'm lucky that my IMEI didn't get lost in that mess, but it just goes to show that there's no such thing as a backup being "too extensive". You never know when "mmcblk0p99" needs to be replaced with a known working copy.
I do believe im going to flash a stock/rooted ROM and then do a dd backup.
What options do you set for your backups?
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I did as follows:
Code:
cd /dev/block/
ls
(get the list of mmcblk devices from here)
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p1 of=/sdcard/dd/blk0p1 bs=4096
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dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p99 of=/sdcard/dd/blk0p99 bs=4096
Obviously you shouldn't have 99 partitions... but you get the idea. I ran each line manually.
Then just move the /dd/ folder off your /sdcard/ and onto some safe storage.
I bought my device off someone from Craigslist 2 nights ago. Went home with device working great. Decided to update from ICS to JB, downloaded everything on the ol gaming machine, go to update using Kies, then BAM! Hung update, bricks phone immediately. Woo....great experience after dropping $400 on phone lol. Contacted Samsung support who told me my update wouldn't work until I registered? I told him it bricked my phone and it wasn't being picked up by computer anymore and I wanted to go back to ICS, he apparently thought waiting 24 hours would fix driver issues. Found JB official rom and learned about Odin. Worked at it until 2-ish am, never worked, woke up, did ICS instead same method, worked immediately, then update worked.
Moral of story? Don't trust Samsung apparently, go with 3rd party everything....
Can we share from other devices? Because I've had a serious one with my nitro HD lol.
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After having my phone on stock rooted touch wiz since day one I was tempted to go jellybean... So months later I'd say Octoberish I finally said f**k it I'm going aokp... So I ran the task and k toonsen romantic for a while until they started porting the t mobile jelly bean stock tw rom... It made me miss tw and it's awesome camera app... So I flashed it after a week or so upon its release... First thing I noticed was the phone would get txts and phone calls rarely (keep in mind I'm in an lte area) and it became un bare able after about an hour. So I reverted back to my aokp nandroid and just figured I'd call it a day... But when I restored my nandroid my service was still messed up.. So after a bit of gooogling I checked my phone status to find my imei to be 0!!! I was beyond upset... So I tried re flashing stock in Odin and everything else I could find (unfortunately the imei restorer wasn't existent yet) and it came to the point where I left it stock and went to the att repair center down the road... The guy didn't know what was wrong with it and I just played dumb... After about 30 mins he came to the conclusion that my sim card slot was broken and I got a new phone...
After getting this one back home I instantly rooted it again
I've been staying away from those ported tmobile roms ever since
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rani9990 said:
Can we share from other devices? Because I've had a serious one with my nitro HD lol.
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I dont see why not. All stories are interesting lol
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No bad flashes .... Yet?
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Alright then,
It was my first day with the LG Nitro HD. My first smartphone (don't comment xD) and I was prepared to root and flash the living crap out of it. Done with rooting, now to install CWM. Simple enough, right? WRONG. This was the one time where google was not my friend. I followed a horribly misleading guide, and ended up with a paperweight. Turns out I flashed the recovery image to the secondary bootloader partition, thereby bricking my phone completely and utterly, irreparably. Had to ship it off to LG, and they fixed it, no questions asked. Thank God for that...
I had an HTC Touch Pro on Sprint. You had to flash a stock ROM before flashing a new custom ROM or the phone would stop working properly after almost exactly an hour. The file system would become completely messed up but the OS would keep running from RAM. It would fail to reboot after that. It was such a pain that I updated my phone every ~3-4 months.
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This one actually just happened this weekend.
So I finally got bored of having stock ICS on my i747 (Rogers), and since I loved cm 7/9 on my SGS2, I figured I'd go with the latest (15 dec) CM10 nightly.
downloaded to phone, rebooted in recovery, wiped data and cache, and installed the new firmware.
booted up and I've got no (or inconsistant) cell service. Figure it's a bug that hasn't been fixed, so no biggie, I backed up a week ago, so I decided to revert back to stock for the time being.
go through the process, and discover I still only have EDGE data.... WTF?
So I do some reading *AFTER the fact, hur dur...* and discover the IMEI wipe issue, and surprise surprise, I didn't do an NV backup, since I didn't know it'd get wiped.
Spent a couple hours keeping the phone / computer away from the 13 month old while I replace the IMEI NV data.... Still stuck on EDGE.... at least my IMEI is showing up though.
Nick
Odin back to stock worked for me when that happened to me.... YMMV.
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The night I got my phone, I rooted via odin and when it booted, I'd get a framework FC every 90 seconds or so. It took me almost two hours to get cwm recovery on my phone to flash AOKP. Not a brick, but since I hadn't even activated it, yet....not happy.
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Each Phone an Adventure
I can completely relate to all of you. Though I'm new as a member (thought I already had an account but apparently I didn't), I've been using the forum for a long time. I have rooted four phones to date, each with its' own disaster story and happy ending. My latest was the AT&T S3. While not a disaster entirely, the no flash counter guide ended up not working out for me. So I paved my own trail so to speak and I found all the root dependencies (Recovery, ROM, the works) by myself. The entire process took me about a day. I also used TriangleAway which threatened explosions if anything went wrong and thankfully nothing did. I'm glad I never had to send a phone back, I've always been very cautious about any type of flashing and always read the forum before doing it.
When I was on the captivate, I really wanted JB so I thought I could grab the Nexus S JB ROM cause the devices were so close to each other. Flashed it via Odin. Good God was that a mistake. I couldn't get back to download mode using the button combo since the button mapping was all switched up. I had this one cable that would give me bad connection, so I jiggled that around in the port for 35 minutes trying to get download mode. Finally, I got it and flashed the stock package. Learned my lesson, will never flash something from a different phone or anything that won't work 100%.
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When I was on the captivate, I really wanted JB so I thought I could grab the Nexus S JB ROM cause the devices were so close to each other. Flashed it via Odin. Good God was that a mistake. I couldn't get back to download mode using the button combo since the button mapping was all switched up. I had this one cable that would give me bad connection, so I jiggled that around in the port for 35 minutes trying to get download mode. Finally, I got it and flashed the stock package. Learned my lesson, will never flash something from a different phone or anything that won't work 100%.
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The thing about the Captivate was, no matter what ROM you flashed, the jig ALWAYS worked. It saved my ass quite a few times, until that is, the memory in the phone decided to die. I could flash through Odin as much as I wanted and it would pass everytime, but never go past the boot animation.
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The thing about the Captivate was, no matter what ROM you flashed, the jig ALWAYS worked. It saved my ass quite a few times, until that is, the memory in the phone decided to die. I could flash through Odin as much as I wanted and it would pass everytime, but never go past the boot animation.
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Flash stock GB with forgot name of kernel baked in. After that in cwm recovery partition external SD card.. then reflash in Odin then install whatever ROM u want
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Trying to use Kies to flash anything. That's always a bad story for me
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Don't attempt to explain to a friend of little flashing knowledge how to root their phone. He hard bricked my phone. Odin is easy if you read but he turned it into rocket science and yeah.. Had to wait for another phone
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Well let me begin by saying I have a Galaxy Nexus and have been flashing roms, etc like it's going outta style. It's very simple to me and I am no newb. So with this logic in mind, I got a brand new GS3 the other day and proceeded to do the same. First, it took my a while to realize there are so many variants of our phone, then when I did a search I saw that there was a i9305 that is LTE....you already know where this is going. I figured that was the correct variant, spent like an hour trying to install a recovery because of the auto wipe feature and thus increasing the flash counter to 10+ (wtf!). Finally I download a rom, flash it. Freezes half way through (knew that wasn't good) and when I pull the battery, BAM, bricked phone.
After some more reading, not only did I find out the correct way of flashing to not increase the counter but also that the Canadian versions are the i747! Luckily it happened a day after I got it and I switched it out for a new one. Moral of the story: If you are flash happy and think all phones are like the Nexus, that's your biggest mistake! lol

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