Several years ago I got a unique data plan for an off-contract Xperia X1A phone from ATT. It was the unlimited data for 'smartphones' for $15. My phone was not recognized by their system and I got unlimited 3G data.
A year or so ago, my Xperia broke down and I got an HTC Vision off-contract with ATT's 3G networks. It worked well and immediately connected to 3G.
The screen recently broke and while I've ordered a replacement, I realized it was getting a little long in the tooth so I decided to get an S3 with no contract from Amazon Wireless.
I sliced down my Sim card into micro size and it fit (yay) and the phone service works...
But no data. Not even 3G.
Halp?
Have you updated your APN's for the phone? I dont know the ATT APN's off hand but Im sure you can google them and find them right away
Here's the apn from my Att s3
You probably need to use wap.cingular
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Here's the apn from my Att s3
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Hi,
I don't see the thumbnail; can you please give it another shot?
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Here's the apn from my Att s3
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Okay - now I see them and they are the same on this phone. Hmm.
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awww ****! That seemed to work. May you please name a charity for me to make a $20 donation?
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Ah - however, I only seem to be getting 3G speeds, not LTE speeds. Ah, that's a fair compromise.
I don't know if att is the same as rogers in Canada but I had to get a new lte sim card which would suck for you. I hope they never take your plan away.
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Ah - however, I only seem to be getting 3G speeds, not LTE speeds. Ah, that's a fair compromise.
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Best I can tell, LTE needs a plan change. If you try to swap SIM cards, it still won't work. Worse, they'd detect you trying to connect to LTE and they may slam you to one of the new plans. Ask me how I know.
It's up to you to decide whether LTE is worth the price increase. Nice to be able to choose.
If you're feeling charitable, either XDA or Cyanogen seem appropriate.
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Best I can tell, LTE needs a plan change. If you try to swap SIM cards, it still won't work. Worse, they'd detect you trying to connect to LTE and they may slam you to one of the new plans. Ask me how I know.
It's up to you to decide whether LTE is worth the price increase. Nice to be able to choose.
If you're feeling charitable, either XDA or Cyanogen seem appropriate.
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This is correct. If you start using a LTE phone and don't have a LTE plan, you'll start getting texts and emails from AT&T asking you to contact them so they can update your plan. They'll probably give you a new micro sim, as your old cut down sim isn't LTE enabled.
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KentuckyHouse said:
This is correct. If you start using a LTE phone and don't have a LTE plan, you'll start getting texts and emails from AT&T asking you to contact them so they can update your plan. They'll probably give you a new micro sim, as your old cut down sim isn't LTE enabled.
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Well... today they actually did upgrade me to the 3gig/$30 data plan. I called them and told them I was going to stop using this phone, return it, and go back to my non-smartphone. They put me back on the old data plan - but I'm not sure for how long.
I'm waiting on my screen replacement for the HTC Vision to arrive, in which case I'll see if they try to force the upgrade again. If they DO, I will again tell them to put it back and send back my S3 and go back to the HTC Vision.
I wonder, though, if there is some way to prevent them from knowing it is a Galaxy S3. Mybe if I bought one from Telus or Bell? My HTC Vision was not released for ATT and I got it from some Canadian company with the same network settings, I think.
Besides, if they are going to FORCE me onto the plan, I may as well take a subsidized phone.
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I don't know if att is the same as rogers in Canada but I had to get a new lte sim card which would suck for you. I hope they never take your plan away.
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I walked into the store with my backup - a moto F3 - and told them I lost my old sim card and needed a microsim. The rep wanted to test that it worked so I asked for some tape and taped it into place. I told him that the phone was foreign and used a rare sim size but a micro could work with tape. They bought it.
So I got home and put the new micro into the S3 and no data using the ATT APN but 3G using the Cingular. So let's see if they try to switch me back again.
REally wish I could get LTE on my current plan. Hmm.
I'm increasingly unhappy with this phone, though, and may end up returning it anyway.
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Best I can tell, LTE needs a plan change. If you try to swap SIM cards, it still won't work. Worse, they'd detect you trying to connect to LTE and they may slam you to one of the new plans. Ask me how I know.
It's up to you to decide whether LTE is worth the price increase. Nice to be able to choose.
If you're feeling charitable, either XDA or Cyanogen seem appropriate.
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Done. $20 to Cyanogen. Too bad I couldn't earmark it to S3 development but nonetheless, I have been using their stuff for a while so a donation is in order.
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Can an unlocked Dinc2 work on AT&T or T-Mobile? I don't want to face the same situation like with the Droid Pro or Droid 2 Global you know.
probably not. they might work as a phone, but not for data. i'm pretty sure the 3G bands are different.
Well you "can", but people found out the carrier (AT&Tmo) is responsible for blocking your phone. They want you to buy their phones
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Apparently it can but only on the EDGE network
One guy on here even said he got it to work with TMobile, post #5: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066953
I'm pretty sure I would be the guy that they reference to be able to get it to work all you have to do is insert your sim card and manually change the apns. I got it to work fine on Tmobile
Edit: every time you switch from Tmobile to Verizon or visa versa it will make you re sign in most every account on your phone
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got Dinc2 for wife last week, may swap with her as I travel in areas with no Verizon, as well as foreign, so I can use GSM. Has anyone tried ATT prepaid SIM in Dinc2 yet? When I get chance, I'll try it, and use b0gman's suggestion.
Does anyone know if Dinc2 still works on At&t and Tmo with unlock code bought on eBay? A couple of sellers on eBay claims that it will work ONLY outside the US. I really want to make sure because I may be getting a new Dinc2 at great price.
Thanks.
US carriers do work Dinc2
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Does anyone know if Dinc2 still works on At&t and Tmo with unlock code bought on eBay? A couple of sellers on eBay claims that it will work ONLY outside the US. I really want to make sure because I may be getting a new Dinc2 at great price.
Thanks.
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It works inside the US if you unlock the sim. Couple of methods to get the unlock code: 1) Be a Verizon customer for 6 mos in good standing and call and request it from them 2) get a XTC clip and get it yourself 3) buy the code from some unlocking service... After that just go to your wireless settings and set it to GSM and input your APN settings and it should work just fine. Mine works on Tmo. It occasionally acts up and I have to reregister it, but most of the time it works just fine.
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got Dinc2 for wife last week, may swap with her as I travel in areas with no Verizon, as well as foreign, so I can use GSM. Has anyone tried ATT prepaid SIM in Dinc2 yet? When I get chance, I'll try it, and use b0gman's suggestion.
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Yes. I worked with VZ to unlock my Dinc2 and used a prepaid SIM for a trip to Europe - UK, Italy, Greece, Turkey. All worked fine and way lower cost than VZ roaming. Same situation - my wife got the Dinc that I used to use.
GSM is why I upgraded from a Dinc to a Dinc 2.
Using pay as you go ATT for backup telephone paid $100 for the whole year($8 a month)
How to with no data too much $$$ anyway
S-Off
Install Recovery Root
Install Senseless Rom by Lefty
Get unlock code from Verizon
Put in Pay as you go ATT
Settings/Call/GSM
Get IMEI to register with pay as you go
enjoy!
Just an fyi...I got an unlock code from Verizon, activated with T-mobile Sim, entered the apn's, but I live in a roaming area so I don't have data until I get into T-Mobile coverage again, luckily I have wifi at my house. Also edge service is slower that 3g with Verizon....but not a lot,
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ATT works aswell just unlocked my Dinc2 and I can switch between verizon service and ATT at will. Edge only but it uses the 3g/4g (UMTS) frequencies of Tmobile, maybe a ROMed phone with the right kernel could get that working
Moved to Q&Q, if you are asking a question-post in the correct forum.
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Does anyone know if Dinc2 still works on At&t and Tmo with unlock code bought on eBay? A couple of sellers on eBay claims that it will work ONLY outside the US. I really want to make sure because I may be getting a new Dinc2 at great price.
Thanks.
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I bought from several different vendor for $0.99....3 out of four refunded my money right away...fourth one sent me working unlock code...$0.99!! and my phone works with T mobile....only getting Edge for now....with APN settings exactly copied from my LG G2x.....I'll try to get 3g working and post if I get it done.
can you please tell me where you got your unlock code?
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I bought from several different vendor for $0.99....3 out of four refunded my money right away...fourth one sent me working unlock code...$0.99!! and my phone works with T mobile....only getting Edge for now....with APN settings exactly copied from my LG G2x.....I'll try to get 3g working and post if I get it done.
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I don't believe you will get 3g due to the bandwidth's.
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I don't believe you will get 3g due to the bandwidth's.
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I don't know if it would be because of bandwidth so much as whether or not the dinc2 radio is able to pick up those signals.
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I don't know if it would be because of bandwidth so much as whether or not the dinc2 radio is able to pick up those signals.
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That is what I meant just couldn't quite wrap my head around the right word LOL.
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Yea I thought that is what you meant hehe.
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Well like the name implies, I'm a noob. INC2 is my first smartphone, and it's been a learning process, but I'm comfortable with it. Either way, my service is currently cut off(by choice) there is a billing issue, and unless I stop being stubborn or they give my the credit I deserve I'm not paying.
Anyway it's been cut off a month, and I've still been using it over wifi just fine with 2.99 skype calling and text plus it's been no problem. Anyway, I took out the sim card and it's still working fine. Is that normal, even when I tried to make a call it sent me to Verizon cust. service like it normally does, and it still says in service in the settings.I was under the impression, that once the sim card is taken out nothing could be done with the phone. Can Verizon track what I'm doing without the sim card in? Or even when it is in and the GPS is turned off, can they track it?
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Well like the name implies, I'm a noob. INC2 is my first smartphone, and it's been a learning process, but I'm comfortable with it. Either way, my service is currently cut off(by choice) there is a billing issue, and unless I stop being stubborn or they give my the credit I deserve I'm not paying.
Anyway it's been cut off a month, and I've still been using it over wifi just fine with 2.99 skype calling and text plus it's been no problem. Anyway, I took out the sim card and it's still working fine. Is that normal, even when I tried to make a call it sent me to Verizon cust. service like it normally does, and it still says in service in the settings.I was under the impression, that once the sim card is taken out nothing could be done with the phone. Can Verizon track what I'm doing without the sim card in? Or even when it is in and the GPS is turned off, can they track it?
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The sim is for world phone use......
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The sim is for world phone use......
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To expand on that, your SIM isn't required to use the phone in the US on big red's network. CDMA carriers don't use SIM cards; GSM carriers do. The Inc2 is a dual mode/hybrid/whatever you want to call it because it has a CDMA radio for domestic use and a GSM radio for use abroad.
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I hear that Gingerbread has been patched to support RUIM cards (CDMA SIMs) so with the patch you can run a RUIM. Then depending on whether you are on CDMA or GSM select, switch off, put in the corresponding card into the slot and start.
yea pulled mine out a long time ago...but keeping it just incase...
Is it possible for my friend then essentially to take my phone and throw his AT&T Sim in my phone and he is able to use it on there service? Or is there a SIM Unlock for instance when I'm in Thailand and don't want Verizon to charge me $1,000,000.00 just to make phone calls because normally i end up buying a cheap Nokia and SIM for only 50.00 and it lasts me for about 2 days on minutes when im overseas. I pretty much want to be able to use the SIM and not have Verizon charging me for International use when i'm using a different Carrier's SIM
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Is it possible for my friend then essentially to take my phone and throw his AT&T Sim in my phone and he is able to use it on there service? Or is there a SIM Unlock for instance when I'm in Thailand and don't want Verizon to charge me $1,000,000.00 just to make phone calls because normally i end up buying a cheap Nokia and SIM for only 50.00 and it lasts me for about 2 days on minutes when im overseas. I pretty much want to be able to use the SIM and not have Verizon charging me for International use when i'm using a different Carrier's SIM
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Already covered in the forums
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Already covered in the forums
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your not referring to this thread are you? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122896 that one is about Driod 2.. I dont see any other Unlock sections. Would you mind posting a link to the correct one because i havent found it
Disregard..
The SIM is for foreign use for most of us in the US. I went to the UK recently, bought a $15 SIM card which gave me a new phone number over there, phone minutes, unlimited text and unlimited data. I got the unlock code from Verizon before I left. I was able to get the unlimited data by having a rooted phone and selecting my own APN settings.
I'll do the same later this year in Italy. Right now I am using a Virtuous Unity ROM which does not recognize SIM cards, but I'll just switch back to my stock Gingerbread ROM before I go.
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The SIM is for foreign use for most of us in the US. I went to the UK recently, bought a $15 SIM card which gave me a new phone number over there, phone minutes, unlimited text and unlimited data. I got the unlock code from Verizon before I left. I was able to get the unlimited data by having a rooted phone and selecting my own APN settings.
I'll do the same later this year in Italy. Right now I am using a Virtuous Unity ROM which does not recognize SIM cards, but I'll just switch back to my stock Gingerbread ROM before I go.
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How did you obtain the APN settings for the new network?
Just trying to get ready for my trip to Europe this summer
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How did you obtain the APN settings for the new network?
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The network provider has to give you that info. I got it from the company that rented me the European SIM card. I used iPhoneTrip.com, for what it's worth. Good coverage and no sneaky charges after the trip was over.
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The SIM is for foreign use for most of us in the US. I went to the UK recently, bought a $15 SIM card which gave me a new phone number over there, phone minutes, unlimited text and unlimited data. I got the unlock code from Verizon before I left. I was able to get the unlimited data by having a rooted phone and selecting my own APN settings.
I'll do the same later this year in Italy. Right now I am using a Virtuous Unity ROM which does not recognize SIM cards, but I'll just switch back to my stock Gingerbread ROM before I go.
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Mind sharing which sim you got? That sounds like a good deal next time I go to the UK.
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I got ny inc 2 used and don't have a sim how do you think I should get one. (Didn't want to start a new thread) thanks.
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I got ny inc 2 used and don't have a sim how do you think I should get one. (Didn't want to start a new thread) thanks.
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Call Verizon
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I'm a brand new Galaxy Nexus owner! Actually I bought it for my girlfriend; there's no way I could give up my Note. Anyone know how to get this thing set up on Page Plus? The first thing they asked for is an ESN or MEID #, so I pulled the battery and there's only an IMEI # listed. The customer service rep said they can't do anything without an ESN or MEID; but then how does it work on Verizon? If it works with Verizon, it should work with Page Plus.
I'm starting to worry now, because I also just found a thread here where they're trying the same thing but stuck because they can't find the diagnostic menu for manual programming. Anyone know anything about that? Now that I have it in my hands, I reallllly want to get it working!!!
I like how you bought the phone and then decided to do the research on it.
And why did you decide to go for the Verizon version and go with Page Plus? You'd be better off getting the GSM version anyway and using that. There are many many many more MVNO and prepaid options if you just bought GSM. Its not like you were going to get LTE on any prepaid network anyways. Buying a Galaxy Nexus and parking it on EVDO is kinda ****ty.
That being said, looks like you're gonna have to do some research on this one. My guess is theres an issue because Verizon activates and registers phones on their network using the LTE SIM, rather than traditional CDMA methods (afaik).
Err...Verizon uses the MicroSIM. It contains an MEID number, so it can easily be attached to the network when it's plugged in.
Also, the CDMA/LTE Nexus is carrier-locked, so even if you had an MEID number it wouldn't be allowed on Page Plus' network.
Did you seriously spend $650 without even doing a minute of research?
It was a great deal I couldn't pass up: $300! (though it does have a little road rash on the bottom edge.) That's why I bought it right away without first doing the research. I'm sure I can re-sell it if I have to, but I'd really rather not.
After posting I went to About in settings and found that it does have an MEID #, which happens to be the same as the IMEI, but missing the last digit.
So there's no unlock for it yet? I assumed that it being google's Android flagship would mean almost immediate root and unlock.
Yes, I know I still have some reading to do; I just got home and immediately posted because I couldn't wait!
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So there's no unlock for it yet? I assumed that it being google's Android flagship would mean almost immediate root and unlock.
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But its a CDMA phone... Just resell it and buy the GSM model. Save yourself the trouble.
Do you think it might help if I went by a Verizon store and got a SIM card?
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But its a CDMA phone... Just resell it and buy the GSM model. Save yourself the trouble.
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I will if I have to, but I'm gonna try to make it work first. She's pretty happy with Page Plus (Verizon service) where she travels for work.
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Do you think it might help if I went by a Verizon store and got a SIM card?
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How are you gonna convince them to do that when you have no indication whatsoever of signing a contract or using their service? lol.
And that still doesn't remove the fact that it registers on the network with the SIM, which Page Plus (in my reading) does not do, as they don't have LTE.
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How are you gonna convince them to do that when you have no indication whatsoever of signing a contract or using their service? lol.
And that still doesn't remove the fact that it registers on the network with the SIM, which Page Plus (in my reading) does not do, as they don't have LTE.
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I figured I'd do some sweet talking... And maybe ask to get set up for Verizon prepaid.
So are you saying if you're in an area where Verizon hasn't yet rolled out LTE the GNexus won't fall back to CDMA or EV-DO, or whatever those non GSM people use?
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I figured I'd do some sweet talking... And maybe ask to get set up for Verizon prepaid.
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But their SIM is provisioned for their network. Not Page Plus' network. That's like saying you're going to walk into an AT&T store just to get a SIM, then try to go over to T-Mobile and use their network. That's not how it works.
So are you saying if you're in an area where Verizon hasn't yet rolled out LTE the GNexus won't fall back to CDMA or EV-DO, or whatever those non GSM people use?
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Of course it will. It does EVDO and LTE. Not everywhere has LTE yet. What I'm saying is why deal with EVDO (you'll never get LTE on Page Plus) when you could have HSPA+ with the GSM model.
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But their SIM is provisioned for their network. Not Page Plus' network. That's like saying you're going to walk into an AT&T store just to get a SIM, then try to go over to T-Mobile and use their network. That's not how it works.
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Page Plus's network is Verizon's network. (though I don't think LTE is included. People on AT&T MVNOs (such as straight talk) regularly get SIM cards from AT&T stores to fix service issues...
I found these guys who claim to flash all sorts of devices including Android for Page Plus, and they have a huge Galaxy Nexus picture front and center; I contacted them and hope it's not false advertising.
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Page Plus's network is Verizon's network. (though I don't think LTE is included. People on AT&T MVNOs (such as straight talk) regularly get SIM cards from AT&T stores to fix service issues...
I found these guys who claim to flash all sorts of devices including Android for Page Plus, and they have a huge Galaxy Nexus picture front and center; I contacted them and hope it's not false advertising.
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Yes its the same network, I'm aware of how an MVNO works... what I'm saying is Page Plus doesn't activate phones using SIM cards because it doesn't have LTE or that system in place, whereas Verizon does. Which leads to issues.
Just makes more hurdles. As I said, you're going through extra trouble to just get a EVDO-stuck Galaxy Nexus. But that's your choice...
And ouch, those guys charge $50 to flash your phone? Kinda lame...
Anyways, good luck to you.
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It was a great deal I couldn't pass up: $300! (though it does have a little road rash on the bottom edge.) That's why I bought it right away without first doing the research.
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If you (really) ended up with a used, slightly damaged Verizon Galaxy Nexus for that price, and can't use it without signing a contract with Verizon. I say you're pretty much screwed since the price of Verizon's Galaxy Nexus just went down to $99 only.
http://wireless.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-Android-Wireless/dp/B0061R2A1S
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Yes its the same network, I'm aware of how an MVNO works... what I'm saying is Page Plus doesn't activate phones using SIM cards because it doesn't have LTE or that system in place, whereas Verizon does. Which leads to issues.
Just makes more hurdles. As I said, you're going through extra trouble to just get a EVDO-stuck Galaxy Nexus. But that's your choice...
And ouch, those guys charge $50 to flash your phone? Kinda lame...
Anyways, good luck to you.
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Thank you for taking the time to comment in my thread. I started it with hopes of generating conversation that could lead to clues on overcoming the hurdles of putting the GNex on Page Plus. I don't need suggestions for other courses of action; my girlfriend is very happy with Page Plus (and the Verizon network) where she travels for work. I wanted to get her a new phone, the best one that'll work on Page Plus, and I found a smoking deal on it so I bought it.
So what it won't achieve LTE speeds; there's still many other things to like about it, and nothing else will achieve LTE on Page Plus, either. It's a perfectly good plan; not everyone's willing to pay twice as much or more just for LTE, but may still want a top notch phone.
I'll give it a week or two then sell it if nobody can figure out diagnostics mode on it, but I have high hoped.
And if it took paying $50, it'd still be dirt cheap compared to going to Verizon! You'd make that money back and then some on the first month with Page Plus instead of Verizon!
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If you (really) ended up with a used, slightly damaged Verizon Galaxy Nexus for that price, and can't use it without signing a contract with Verizon. I say you're pretty much screwed since the price of Verizon's Galaxy Nexus just went down to $99 only.
http://wireless.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-Android-Wireless/dp/B0061R2A1S
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Oh, it'd move. Looking at completed listings on Ebay and craigslist offerings, I'm pretty sure it'd be snatched up rapidly at $300. $99 is with 2-year commitment and those subsidies tend to translate to street value around $350 (i.e. that's the discount you get for signing a contract.) Anyways, I have a habit of giving old devices to friends/family.
Edit: especially with the terms/conditions Amazon puts on top of Verizon's in the contracts...
Edit 2: of course neither I nor anyone else would have to sign a Verizon contract on this phone, since the original guy who got the subsidized price did it.
Anybody know anything more about this yet?
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Anybody know anything more about this yet?
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I highly doubt anyone is doing much research on this, since it's such a rare request. Most people will just get the GSM model, if they do not want to use Verizon.
If you have a local shop willing to do this for you, I recommend contacting them - but I wouldn't pay a cent until you've verified functionality.
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Hi!
I am doing my own research too cause I too own a Verizon Galaxy nexus, and want to get it working with my local carrier in Mexico. Still looking to get it in diagnostic mode but wit no possitive results yet. As always, there will be a solution, but as things are going until now, it could take some time to appear.
And as yomuppet says, dont pay a cent until you see the thing workin!
I'd pay the 50 bucks to get it flash by that website or another site called beige something...
Otherwise you need CDMA workshop.
Look up HTC Thunderbolt on pageplus on these forums and you'll find a video on how to do it on that fone. I image it would be similar process for the sammy
did anyone ever get this working?
I totally understand original posters issue. I like the nexus and would like to get one but I too am a happy pageplus customer and would like to see if there's a way to make it work. Lame that people can't address the issue at hand but instead try to ridicule your decision. I tried setting up the droid charge (also a 4g lte phone) on pageplus but with no success - and ended up selling it. And yes, I walked into the verizon store and asked and they just gave me a sim card. but it still wouldn't register - and I also gave them the imei #minus the last digit. Too bad... I really like the new lte phones but I haven't seen many of then work on pageplus yet. If anyone figures it out, please post it here.
I plan on giving this phone to my dad and was wondering if att will detect it. I am running cm9 and will be blocking all data before giving it to him.
raytraceme said:
I plan on giving this phone to my dad and was wondering if att will detect it. I am running cm9 and will be blocking all data before giving it to him.
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Yes, they will detect it. If your dad is on a very old plan (maybe 3+ years since renewing the contract), he might be grandfathered in (meaning that he wouldn't be required to get a data plan for a smartphone, and they won't automatically assign one to him). This doesn't apply to most people though.
lol nope i have used his upgrades for myself. So i guess he is not grandfathered.
Might I ask what phone you are switching to?
either the one x or the galaxy s3. The nitro gets too hot, still has color banding issues, and the battery life is humbug.
raytraceme said:
either the one x or the galaxy s3. The nitro gets too hot, still has color banding issues, and the battery life is humbug.
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All those things will be addressed once a stable version of CM9 is out with an undervolting kernel, but suit yourself. ;p
why would you want to give your dad a phone that overheats, has graphics issues and ****ty battery life?
He bought himself a HTC vivid, so I don't have to worry about giving him one that sucks...
Because in just about every metric, the HTC vivid is worse (comming as a person who does not like non fridge related LG products, here).
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Edit, however, as long as no data used, normally, att will not bother you.
scott0 said:
why would you want to give your dad a phone that overheats, has graphics issues and ****ty battery life?
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^ so are you saying that I should warranty it?
jeremyshaw said:
Edit, however, as long as no data used, normally, att will not bother you.
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Not true, if they detect a smartphone on the network at all, they will attempt to put you on a data plan. Sometimes it's not immediate but it WILL happen.
drumist said:
Not true, if they detect a smartphone on the network at all, they will attempt to put you on a data plan. Sometimes it's not immediate but it WILL happen.
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Ah Thank you. I guess I got lucky with my TW GSII (or does AT&T only have IMEI of its own branded phones?).
raytraceme said:
^ so are you saying that I should warranty it?
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well, i was attempting to make it funny.......................but yeah, i'd replace it 1st.
jeremyshaw said:
Ah Thank you. I guess I got lucky with my TW GSII (or does AT&T only have IMEI of its own branded phones?).
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Yeah, that might be the reason -- I don't have any idea which devices are in their list but it's very possible that T-Mobile phones will bypass the detection. The other possible reason is the one I mentioned earlier in this thread: if you are on a very old plan that didn't have the data requirement listed in the contract.
raytraceme said:
I plan on giving this phone to my dad
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Do you really hate your dad that much?
My mom had exact same situation when I gave her a HTC Inspire 4G, she went to another carrier simply because ATT would not allow her use a smart phone without data plan. Well, they tried to rip her off with $30 a month and at the end they simply lost a customer who payed $45 a month.
Good job ATT.
Someone is giving my wife an LG Nitro HD after she lost her Samsung Captivate. We currently have the $15/mo 200MB data plan, but when I was shopping for upgrades and looking at newer phones online it seemed like we had to switch to a newer, more expensive 4G data plan. If we get a new sim card from AT&T for my wife will it work in this phone? Will we be able to use it without changing her data plan?
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Someone is giving my wife an LG Nitro HD after she lost her Samsung Captivate. We currently have the $15/mo 200MB data plan, but when I was shopping for upgrades and looking at newer phones online it seemed like we had to switch to a newer, more expensive 4G data plan. If we get a new sim card from AT&T for my wife will it work in this phone? Will we be able to use it without changing her data plan?
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I'd suggest calling up AT&T support or going into a local AT&T store to see if they can move your wife from the 200MB 3G data plan to the 200MB LTE data plan (same price - $15/mo). I think they will do it without any problem, but I'm not sure. It's worth a try at least.
I have taken a sim card out of a regular phone and put it into a smart phone and att never added a data plan to it. I had that for maybe a year. If you don't want to pay for data anymore take out your sim card and put it into an old phone and tell att that you sold the smartphone and are using the older phone now, then switch the sim card back without telling att, I've done that too. I can't say they won't force a data plan but this is just what i experienced
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I have taken a sim card out of a regular phone and put it into a smart phone and att never added a data plan to it. I had that for maybe a year. If you don't want to pay for data anymore take out your sim card and put it into an old phone and tell att that you sold the smartphone and are using the older phone now, then switch the sim card back without telling att, I've done that too. I can't say they won't force a data plan but this is just what i experienced
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It depends on how recently you've signed a contract with AT&T. If you've signed a contract since they implemented the requirement for data plans on all smartphones, then they will automatically switch you to a data plan if you use a smartphone. If you haven't, they won't.
This was with an iPhone 4 when it first came out. I sold it and then but an old razor and they took the data plan off per my request. And did the same thing with my wife's phone but she got an older smart phone but they never turned a data LAN on for it automatically.
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So check this out.... I am an AT&T user and back when the HTC HD2 came out for T-Mobile I bought it from a friend when they signed up for a new contract. Got an unlock code from Ebay and have been using it for the past 2 years without having to have a data plan, never got added automatically to my plan like i have heard happen to others? And I'm wondering why? Is it possibly cuz its a T-Mobile phone? Or is it cuz I still have an old "Cingular" SIM card? I am curious about this because right now, Wally World has a special sale on the phone at $249, plus a $100 gift card, which will bring the phone down to $150 basically, so a pretty damn good deal for a phone just out on the market. And I'm plan on getting it this week, I was wondering if any of you would be able to tell me if at some point if i was able to get a T-Mobile version of the Samsung Note 2 if i could slip my SIM card into it and then be able to cancel my DATA plan, if i told them i went back to a Motorola Razr or something, which worked when i got my HD2? Or will AT&T be able to see that i have a smartphone? Is it the newer smaller SIM card, that will tell AT&T that I have a smartphone, or will the phone it self be what sends info to the servers or whatever that tells AT&T I have a smartphone? Or do you think this method of getting a T-Mobile phone and using an AT&T SIM card will work and I won't get stuck with a DATA plan? Everywhere I go has Wi-Fi so I have no need for the Data plan it will be going to waste.
The newer phones, including this one, use a micro-SIM.
I think it is because you have a phone that is not sold by AT&T that they can't tell what it is, so you would probably be forced to get a data plan if you get the AT&T Note II. I would think that regardless of the sim card you have it would still report your phone model to the network, but I really don't know anything about that, so hopefully others can chime in.
I have been using an unlocked Xperia Pro on AT&T and they don't seem to have a clue what it is or even that it is a smartphone, so I could probably do whatever I want with the data plan.
If you got the international version of the Note perhaps you would not have to have a data plan.
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I think it is because you have a phone that is not sold by AT&T that they can't tell what it is, so you would probably be forced to get a data plan if you get the AT&T Note II. I would think that regardless of the sim card you have it would still report your phone model to the network, but I really don't know anything about that, so hopefully others can chime in.
I have been using an unlocked Xperia Pro on AT&T and they don't seem to have a clue what it is or even that it is a smartphone, so I could probably do whatever I want with the data plan.
If you got the international version of the Note perhaps you would not have to have a data plan.
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I'm wondering if it has something to do with the IMEI? If it isn't listed in there network or something? Maybe I will be alright? I don't know... But back when I got the Tmobile HD2 I went from a Motorola Razr to the HD2 just fine and wasn't automatically enrolled into a data plan, like some others people on at&t were that got the same phone. I don't know how I wasn't, but I'm happy I wasn't and was hoping to find out how to avoid it again. Everywhere I go has Wi-Fi, I don't need to throw away, $15 to $30 extra a month when I'm not even going to use the Data network very often. I have been going just fine with my HD2 with no data plan, just using Wi-Fi.
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The newer phones, including this one, use a micro-SIM.
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Right, I know I'll have to get a new SIM card and that is what kinda worries me, I don't know anything about the SIM cards. I was just curious if my older "Cingular" SIM card is what was helping keep me stay under the radar of them not knowing I have a smartphone, or if its because, the HD2 phone I have is from Tmobile and not in their system, so it can't recognize it? I went from a Razr to the HD2 and it still shows as a Razr in my account. An when I get the Note 2 phone, hopefully from Tmobile sometime, I was hoping I can still get away with not having to add a Data plan if i can find out how to avoid it...
Its all in the IMIE ... I was using a Galaxy Nexus overseas on a dumb phone plan because they didnt have the IMIE in system they couldnt tell it was a smartphone but they have cracked down on it now. Only phone that seem to be making it through the loop hole is overseas ones that are not very popular. If you switch to the AT&T version you will 100% be put on data plan if you choose a note 2 from say Rogers there is a slight chance you could sneak under the radar and not need it but for how long no one really knows.
I've seen people come in with T-Mobile phones or international phones and they don't register as a smartphone with the IMEI. So no data is required with unlocked phones.
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I've seen people come in with T-Mobile phones or international phones and they don't register as a smartphone with the IMEI. So no data is required with unlocked phones.
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Do you work at an AT&T store or something? Just curious, cuz it kinda sounds like it from the way you worded that reply. I've read on other threads that AT&T does checks or sweeps every now and then, that might detect a smartphone? Have you heard about that before, not sure what they meant by that?