Well i been noticing a lot of people complaining (or commenting) on bad battery life on a ROM they just flashed. I decided to start a thread on how tips to improve battery life. It's not necessarily a ROM that gives you bad battery life (specially if most people comment on how great it is)....there might be a few thing you or your phone is doing to cause this.
First: After flashing a new ROM, you will have the worst battery life ever. The battery will have go through a few cycles before battery life will be apparent. It is also worth noting that sometimes a battery calibration will have to be done by either traditional methods or by the Die Hard Battery Calibration Script by Zeppelinrox. (Not sure if it really works, never tried it…..but its worth mentioning)
Second: Turn off unnecessary sync’s in the phone (toggle button) and apps, such as Facebook, XDA (sorry xda), emails…etc). Yes it is cool to have your Facebook notify you every 30 minutes about somebody’s activities, but that takes up power. I am not saying turn off everything, but you have to find your sweet spot about what is to be on.
While we are talking about deactivating sync’s or limiting them, let’s talk about widgets for a second. Let’s not forget widgets are in automatic sync, sometimes you can control the frequency, and they will use extra system resources such as WiFi, 4G/3G, GPS, etc and this means extra battery usage.
Third: Turn off all radio's such as 4G/3G,WiFi, and GPS when not in use. It goes without saying that if you are not connected to WiFi, it is going to use up battery searching for connectivity. Also, If you notice that you lost signal completely while at work or in a building for an extended period of time, I suggest turning Airplane Mode on. I use Airplane Mode at work and my battery drops 2-3% in 4 hours. You can also turn off data (4G/3G) when you phone is not in use by simply turning off the data toggle.
Forth: I highly recommend using the apps, GSaM Battery Monitor, Better Battery Stats, and CPU Spy to monitor and verify wake locks and apps stealing power. I also recommend Eugine's app, CPU Sleep. All are available on the market and also free on XDA, but why not pay the 2 bucks and support the dev's.
GSam battery monitor used to be Badass Battery Monitor (because it was [email protected]) but i guess too many people complained so he changed it to GSam, but it still is the best out there with very minimal system drain. What this app does is explain to you what is using battery and how much. You can see what inactive app is using battery. It will also show you wakelocks, and what apps held your device awake and for how long. A lot of useful info to help track down battery drain.
Better Battery Stats is a more in-depth info about wakelocks from kernel wakelocks, partial wakelocks, alarms (scheduled wakelocks for each app) and so much more. This can be intimidating to look at and read at first, but you will learn your way around it quickly and what it is telling you. It does include a database link to most wakelocks to help explain most wakelocks.
CPU Spy is useful to be to help determine what my CPU is doing throughout the day and shows Deep Sleep which is very important when tracking down battery drain. This is, in my opinion, optional. Not necessary to track down the culprit of battery drain, but it helps for me.
CPU Sleep is a wonderful app designed by Eugine that when the phone hits deep sleep...it ensures all but one core is sleeping until you wake the device. Far as i am aware, it only works for TW ROM's....i am sure he is developing for CM and AOKP ROM's, if he hasn't done so already.
Fifth: Screen Brightness. Now I know we have a huge cool screen and you want others to see it, so you jack the brightness up to 100% or on Auto. The fact is we have a HUGE screen that loves to eat up battery power like it’s nobody’s business. Now I know putting it on the auto selection sounds like a way to sound power. And in a way it is, but you have to realize it takes more power cycling through different levels. I suggest lowering it low as possible that you are comfortable with. I use 20% brightness, and I feel that you use less power than auto because it’s a constant brightness now going from dim to bright and everywhere in between. (-thanks mrrobc97 for the reminder)
While we are talking about displays, mrrobc97(thanks again) also brought up the about turning off landscape views, not to use live wallpapers, and the use of dark wallpapers and themes.
He also reminded me about disabling apps on startup .He and I recommend the app Autostarts from the playstore. I highly recommend this app over anything I used, including Rom Toolbox’s feature that does this. Not to downplay Rom Toolbox in anyway (it is a great app) but I have had bad luck lately with the autostart feature in the past…probably my own fault for fudging something up I shouldn’t have been (usually disabling YouTube is when it goes haywire with FC’s). Autostarts is a bit more advanced then RT’s autostart tool.
Sixth: 3rd party app killers do nothing. Yes they kill everything running on your phone, but the apps you just killed in your background will restart, thus using more battery power to start back up than it would of if you just left them running. This also is the same when you do this in the stock app manager too. (thanks blunified for the tip).
If you have anything to add or correct, please feel free to post and I will add.
Right now i get about 17-20hours on average of battery life on a work day, and 20-26 hours average on a non working day.
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The best so far I have a screenshot for....18 hours up, used 57% with over 9.5 hours left (average).
Update 7/29:
Revised my original post and added in tips from members mrrobc97 and bluntified.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but a lot of this stuff is situational. I think the majority of the frustration people have is when their phones are draining quickly while using basic functions; the reasons why we buy these phones in the first place.
I've tried every gimmick and gadget to get better battery life, but I can't seem to reliably get my phone to drain at much less than 10% an hour, unless I'm just straight up not using it.
I was getting 7-8% on Darkside v8, but since he's taking a break from it I decided to try some other stuff out. That's the best I've had, coming from Juggernaut and DW before.
Same deal with cm9 and AOKP, about 10% an hour with a busy work email, one Gmail account, fair amount of texting, checking my RSS feeds and XDA every hour or so. Screen on automatic brightness.
It's not horrible, but it's not great. Maybe I have a wonky device? Either way, I like having what I use always available, and if this is the battery life trade off for that, I'll deal with it. I live and work in Manhattan so it's not like I'm ever far from a charger.
What am I gonna do, get an iChick phone?
Hell no.
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I understand what your saying. The point i was trying to get a lot of people was to realize that a lot of wasted power loss comes from apps not allowing the device to sleep as it should. I remember watching my phone draining 20% an hour in airplane mode come to realize later that i had to many widgets refreshing, all sync's on and updating every 30 minutes with other apps constantly active not allowing the phone to hit deep sleep at all. I totally agree about a battery should last a longtime without having to check for wakelocks and whatnot. I think the blame comes from a mixture of poorly written apps, android power management system that's not working efficiently as it should, and a battery that should of been a bit bigger.
For sure. People need to have reasonable expectations though. If everything is light up like the Vegas strip your phone isn't going to last very long. But if you have everything minimalist and turned off you have an expensive pet rock. I think the best advice you can give is the self diagnostic stuff so people can examine their habits and figure out a fun to battery balance that works for them. The programs you suggested are all good ones that have helped me out at various points.
I've almost chucked my phone out the window because of the damn media process always running ffs.
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In other words, don't use your phone. Best battery saver
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In other words, don't use your phone. Best battery saver
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No not saying that at all. But do you really need to have everything on a half hour sync? Actually just a manual sync would greatly improve battery life.
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I need to throw in Autostarts app. It enables/disables an app start-up on system boot-up. It also enables/disables an apps start-up when certain events happen (like when a charger plugs in it will start-up a certain app on when an app makes another app start-up that you probably don't need on). It really needs to go on your list Biker.
Another thing you forgot to mention is the screen brightness and your choice of the background theme or wallpaper. OK common knowledge you should know by now... BRIGHTER SCREEN = HIGHER BATTERY CONSUMPTION... don't keep it the lowest cuz you're going to end up switching it back and forth depending how bright your surroundings are thus wasting more battery...just keep it on AUTO! Also...do you really need that snow landscape for your wallpaper? Do you have to view your kids everytime you wake-up your phone?...NO?...then find the darkest coolest wallpaper you could live with. And last go through all your apps and (if the option is there) choose the darkest background theme available, like for the mail, sms/mms, or tapatalk app.
...on another note...YES, I will agree that in order to get maximum life from your battery you will have to sacrifice alot of the stuff that makes your smartphone cool like the amount of widgets you could be running, bright ass screen settings, or that live wallpaper you're running. You also sacrifice instant use of your phone (i.o.w. instead of checking your Facebook widget to see what's up you have to---open notification toggles - enable data/wifi - go to app drawer - open Facebook app - wait for it to load - then see what's up). All that coolness its whats sells a smartphone (see commercials) but it comes at a high battery-drainage price.
My wife has a t989 like me but white and so does her lil' sis. Her setup is identical to mine for the exception of a few apps and that she has a purple version of my Blutiful theme. She's always telling me (or talking **** i.m.o.) about how on her lil' sis phone you are able to view Facebook, YouTube, and News right on her screen (i.o.w. widgets) and not hers and I tell her its not gonna happen cuz I don't want her *****ing later on about how the "phone" sucks cuz the battery lasts half a day JUST like I always hear her lil'sis *****.
...so anyways the point I'm trying to make is that you have to make that choice (coolness vs battery life) or try to find YOUR sweet spot between both of them. Another thing you could do is have a few spare cheap batteries from ebay. They work almost as good as the OEM and for all we know they probably come from the same place and just slap different labels on them. Buy a cheap $3 battery charger also and have them charged and just keep one at home/car/work like that you could swap if the need arises. I also bought a few cheap home/car phone chargers from ebay and also have them at home/car/work. They have all worked good for me w/o any issues. You might catch me with my pants down one day but you will NEVER catch me with a dead phone I promise.
I've almost chucked my phone out the window because of the damn media process always running ffs.
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There needs to be a fix for that damn media thing always running
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Another thing to note is, using the "kill all" button on your task manager will use more battery. There are apps that need to run in the background, when you close it, it will have to reopen itself and use more battery power.
Altogether, task managers are no good.
Thanks mrrobc97, I forgot about all of that. I'll add in when I get home. I used Rom toolbox to kill auto run apps a while back and messed something up somehow. Had to reflash. What app did you use?
Thanks bluntified, that's an important tip to remind people too.
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There needs to be a fix for that damn media thing always running
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Funny you mention that. I read a post the other day about that. Forgot where, but it was saying it has to deal with incompatible media such as music or video types...I'll try to dig it up for you
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Thanks mrrobc97, I forgot about all of that. I'll add in when I get home. I used Rom toolbox to kill auto run apps a while back and messed something up somehow. Had to reflash. What app did you use?
Thanks bluntified, that's an important tip to remind people too.
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The app is called Autostarts.
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There needs to be a fix for that damn media thing always running
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What media "thing"?
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What media "thing"?
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It's a wakelock that involves the media scanner running in the background process . Continuously scanning certain media types. Never experienced it myself but read about others that have
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Original thread updated and revised with tips from users mrrobc97 and blunified. Thanks again for your contribution guys.
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It's a wakelock that involves the media scanner running in the background process . Continuously scanning certain media types. Never experienced it myself but read about others that have
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Weird. Neva had that happen to me. Since wer on that subject...here goes another tip...so ur media scanner doesn't go on and on scanning everything in ur phone...put a ".nomedia" file on the folder(s) u dont want scanned like that the media scanner is faster next time it has to scan ur phone.
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Is there anyway to stop apps like Score Center from always showing up as a running app?
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I've also noticed that lately Google maps has been a battery sucker. I uninstall it, as using it from the web works fine for me. also MapQuest app from the market is a pretty good replacement and drains far less battery
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I've also noticed that lately Google maps has been a battery sucker. I uninstall it, as using it from the web works fine for me. also MapQuest app from the market is a pretty good replacement and drains far less battery
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Is there anyway to stop apps like Score Center from always showing up as a running app?
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Like the OP says...get the app Autostarts to disable those apps from running next time you boot-up ur phone.
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I am always afraid of programs that will drain my battery.. I am some what new to the android.. I understand killing apps with an app killer program was bad, so I removed "Advanced app killer"
My battery life with the Fresh rom is doing pretty good..
But the fact that I don't have an app killer always scares me.. For example..
I just got that Tikl program that allows a walkie talkie type of conversation..
I keep thinking its constantly running and draining the battery.
Same with Vlingo.. I have the Widget so I can turn it off but if I go into running programs its there..
Are these programs draining battery?
Is there a list someone came up with, that list programs that are bad and drain?
Being that we don't/shouldn't have an app killer (coming from the CE mobile land)
just becasue an app is still active in the background doesn't mean it's using cpu or battery. One of the best apps you cen get for monitoring this type of thing is systempanel. If you set it up to mionitor, it will tell you exactly how much battery and cpu each app has used over the past 2 hours, 8 hours, day, etc.
+1 for SystemPanel. It is the first app I ever purchased for Android and is still one of the best.
Watch out for camera360 its a battery drainer.
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See.. even those Alps scare me.. for systempanel to gauge the CPU programs are using ... well that means systempanel needs to be running alllllll the time..
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just becasue an app is still active in the background doesn't mean it's using cpu or battery. One of the best apps you cen get for monitoring this type of thing is systempanel. If you set it up to mionitor, it will tell you exactly how much battery and cpu each app has used over the past 2 hours, 8 hours, day, etc.
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See.. even those Alps scare me.. for systempanel to gauge the CPU programs are using ... well that means systempanel needs to be running alllllll the time..
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The amount that systempanel uses is negligible, and its usefulness is worth it. Besides, once you use it to find your rogue apps, you can uninstall it. Again though, the amount of CPU and battery that it uses are really almost nothing.
Remember, this isn't windows, where things keep running in the background, using up cycles and draining battery.
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An alternate to systempanel is WatchDog. It's the same idea. You should really download it for peace of mind. You will see that for the most part that most apps fade to the background if you're not actively using them. I used to use ATK but after using WatchDog to monitor CPU usage I see that the OS does a pretty good job of keeping stuff in control.
In regards to your concern about the CPU monitoring app using too much memory or CPU power, don't worry. It is pretty minimal. In WatchDog you can set how often you want the app to monitor. Alternately you can do a live reading where you see what is draining the CPU at that very moment (well actually in 5 second intervals)
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An alternate to systempanel is WatchDog. It's the same idea. You should really download it for peace of mind. You will see that for the most part that most apps fade to the background if you're not actively using them. I used to use ATK but after using WatchDog to monitor CPU usage I see that the OS does a pretty good job of keeping stuff in control.
In regards to your concern about the CPU monitoring app using too much memory or CPU power, don't worry. It is pretty minimal. In WatchDog you can set how often you want the app to monitor. Alternately you can do a live reading where you see what is draining the CPU at that very moment (well actually in 5 second intervals)
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this is true, I use both watchdog and systempanel, and have them both on all the time. Although its a great app, and works perfectly, watchdog does use up a bit more CPU than I would like though.
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OK I got system panel and have it running. Not sure I know what I'm doing LOL. I did check off a couple things in the settings. Like to check the monitoring and stuff. I guess some of you can explain to me what to check.. please... in the meantime I am looking at the CPU circle.. it sits anywhere from 6.6 to about 10 or so.. then sometimes it spikes to 65-70 percent ...
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Ok cool. First of all, ignore the spikes you see in the CPU wheel. You'll notice that it spikes whenever you touch the screen or scroll. What you want to do is make sure you have monitoring checked off in settings. Then leave it overnight. The first time you use the phone in the morning, the first thing you want to do is go to menu, then monitor, then history. At the top of that screen are your options to view the timeframe and whether you're looking at the graph showing CPU vs usage vs battery, or the top apps. for the graphs screen, if you have high CPU with high battery drainage when there's no usage, then you have a rogue app.That top apps screen shows which apps ate using the most battery/cpu by percentage, and you can tap each app listing for more detail.
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Thanks so much!
So tomorrow I can look at the top Apps and if it shows zero percent I assume it means the app is good ?
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Ok cool. First of all, ignore the spikes you see in the CPU wheel. You'll notice that it spikes whenever you touch the screen or scroll. What you want to do is make sure you have monitoring checked off in settings. Then leave it overnight. The first time you use the phone in the morning, the first thing you want to do is go to menu, then monitor, then history. At the top of that screen are your options to view the timeframe and whether you're looking at the graph showing CPU vs usage vs battery, or the top apps. for the graphs screen, if you have high CPU with high battery drainage when there's no usage, then you have a rogue app.That top apps screen shows which apps ate using the most battery/cpu by percentage, and you can tap each app listing for more detail.
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Also real quick... should I do a reboot before bed and then turn on monitoring ?
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Thanks so much!
So tomorrow I can look at the top Apps and if it shows zero percent I assume it means the app is good ?
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Exactly. Chances are though, there will be a few items there over zero percent. That's ok. If you have anything over say 2 percent over the last 8 hours when there was no usage you may want to consider getting rid of it. Or at least keeping your eye on it. The goal here is to show a horizontal line for battery when there's no usage.
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Also real quick... should I do a reboot before bed and then turn on monitoring ?
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You can, but its not necessary. Besides, this isn't a test environment, you're looking for the battery leeches for how you normally use the phone. And monitoring should always be on.
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OP, I hear you. An app simply running in the background won't exactly kill the battery, unless it's actively using a connection and CPU.
You should be wary of ANY app that requires a constant connection in the background and doesn't use Google's Cloud to Device Push service. Tikl is one of them and one of the reasons why I don't use it.
Even if Tikl or other apps like Fring, tango, and most IM apps use their own private push servers, they are still separate concurrent connections and they all send different keepalive signals to maintain the connection.
Some high quality apps that DO use Google C2DM thus using little to no battery in the background while still allowing you to receive messages:
- BeejiveIM
- Trillian Beta (Free if you search google)
- WhatsApp
- SpringPad (With push alerts and bookmarks)
- Chrome To Phone
- Stock apps such as Gmail and Google Talk
- Any other app that lists "Allow device to send cloud to device messages" instead of just "Full internet access" under Internet Permissions when installing.
Some apps are known to hurt battery life such as:
- Ebuddy, Meebo and most IM apps besides BeejiveIM and Trillian
- Tango Video Calls (Even with latest update)
- TweetDeck with default settings (Checks for new tweets every THREE minutes by default for EVERY column! Insane)
- Twitter , the official client checks for new tweets every 15 minutes.
- Qik, one of the lousiest written apps I have ever seen
Also, read the reviews and test them if you're not sure. It's very unfortunate that developers still seem to ignore battery life. That's exactly the reason why Apple(And now even Microsoft) had to "spoonfeed" them by not allowing them to have deeper access to the system.
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Some apps are known to hurt battery life such as:
- Ebuddy, Meebo and most IM apps besides BeejiveIM and Trillian
- Tango Video Calls (Even with latest update)
- TweetDeck with default settings (Checks for new tweets every THREE minutes by default for EVERY column! Insane)
- Twitter , the official client checks for new tweets every 15 minutes.
- Qik, one of the lousiest written apps I have ever seen
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+1 on the qik and tango mentions. Those two were especially terrible - tango was so bad, i didn't even bother trying the new version.
Boy I really hope tikl isn't that bad.. I love that program. My dad and I use it all the time
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OK.. I woke up, looked at the program and LOL XDA took 2.8% I did forget to exit though , tikl took 1.3% the next one was system at .3% the rest showed zero. I looked at the graph and I had a spike at 4am(ghosts in my house?) Besides that everything looks OK?
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OK.. I woke up, looked at the program and LOL XDA took 2.8% I did forget to exit though , tikl took 1.3% the next one was system at .3% the rest showed zero. I looked at the graph and I had a spike at 4am(ghosts in my house?) Besides that everything looks OK?
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ok - so other than tikl, you don't have any problem apps. Now you just need to monitor daily to see whats getting used - if an app is showing a high percentage when you haven't used it (or baerely used it), you may want to get rid of it.
I flashed the honeycomb battery icon. I have another app that I've been using (Android booster) that is a task killer. it shows my battery life, it was right on before the new icon but now they don't match up the widget says I have 10% more life in my battery then my battery icon on my status bar. Is there any way to fix this problem? or should I just deal with it
Thank you in advance
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I flashed the honeycomb battery icon. I have another app that I've been using (Android booster) that is a task killer. it shows my battery life, it was right on before the new icon but now they don't match up the widget says I have 10% more life in my battery then my battery icon on my status bar. Is there any way to fix this problem? or should I just deal with it
Thank you in advance
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1st off, I'd recommend dumping any "task killer" as the GN2 has this functionality built in, especially since we're talking about battery performance...
2nd, I'd concentrate more on wakelock settings, and if I had to download any app it would be those that helped manage this. This way you can force everything to sleep when your not using your phone...
Also, depending on the governor, you may need to adjust your phones clock throttling upon waking/using the device, custom may be your best bet, but there might be a "built-in" profile that works perfectly for your particular individual usage
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For some reason, I seem to only be able to manage about 5 hours of screen time. I've heard of people getting 6-8 hours.
I'm using this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2150145 but for some reason, that thread isn't very alive..
I tried the jedi ROM, but I just can't stand it when developers change little things about the UI. Is 5 hours normal for a ROM that's mostly stock? I'm using the UNEAK kernel.
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1st off, I'd recommend dumping any "task killer" as the GN2 has this functionality built in, especially since we're talking about battery performance...
2nd, I'd concentrate more on wakelock settings, and if I had to download any app it would be those that helped manage this. This way you can force everything to sleep when your not using your phone...
Also, depending on the governor, you may need to adjust your phones clock throttling upon waking/using the device, custom may be your best bet, but there might be a "built-in" profile that works perfectly for your particular individual usage
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Thanks for the info phxdroid86:thumbup: will check into it. I did get rid of the task killer started using the stock one, I like it.
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Hello folks,
I came across this app which basically forces your phone into deep sleep mode when not in use( screen off). It turns data, wifi off etc. And wakes phone on in every half hour or other intervals you choose to check email etc. It does not do much when you are using the phone but saves a lot of battery when the phone is not being used.
I am using CM10 alpha 6 and it works great for the time being. I highly recommend it for people having battery issues.
If you want to try go to google play and search for "deep sleep battery saver".
My first impressions are really good.Just wanted to share...
Edit: Here is the link for play store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rootuninstaller.batrsaver
Here is the link for the xda-version thread where you can get .apk
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030696
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as your recommended, we would appreciate if you include a playstore-link of the application
so we can download the right apps directed form your link easier,
and most users here use their mobile or tapatalk to access the xda forums
thank you
Link is added on the first post.
Apparently there is also free xda version of the app which includes paid options. There is a thread created by the developer on xda but since I am on my phone right now, I cant find the link. But a google search will lead you there.
EDIT: Link for xda version is also added for your convenience.
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This will my data connection...so fb wont get notify
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This will my data connection...so fb wont get notify
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That is the point. It just wakes every once in a while (30, 45, 60 minutes etc. you define) and get all sorts of notifications etc. There will be delays for notifications. It is a price to pay for a dramatic increase in battery life. If you want to be notified immediately for a facebook, twitter etc., then this is not for you.
Now I can get around 30 hours of battery life easily. Before my battery used to die in about 17 hours or so. So the choice is up to you..
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That is the point. It just wakes every once in a while (30, 45, 60 minutes etc. you define) and get all sorts of notifications etc. There will be delays for notifications. It is a price to pay for a dramatic increase in battery life. If you want to be notified immediately for a facebook, twitter etc., then this is not for you.
Now I can get around 30 hours of battery life easily. Before my battery used to die in about 17 hours or so. So the choice is up to you..
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I think nowdays samsung has made thier device battery to fast draining...
this app surely make deep sleep but sometimes 3g got no conection when unlock phone, have to disable this app first and restart couple of time to have a conection back..this is happen to me more than 2 times..
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stpdkid said:
this app surely make deep sleep but sometimes 3g got no conection when unlock phone, have to disable this app first and restart couple of time to have a conection back..this is happen to me more than 2 times..
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Yeah sometimes I got that issue too. So what I am trying now is to leave Data connection alone but stopping apps. I will see if battery life is still good.
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awesome app
noukuo sup
it like the other battery saver. than 'deep sleep battery' is just the name app but it have some fiture to force and tune the CPU clock
the apps have good detail setting, but i donnt recomended. i realy like other battery saver
nice app:thumbup:
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hepi_hape said:
it like the other battery saver. than 'deep sleep battery' is just the name app but it have some fiture to force and tune the CPU clock
the apps have good detail setting, but i donnt recomended. i realy like other battery saver
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You should kindly let us know which "other battery saver" app you are talking about... As we are looking for the best to get the longest the battery life.
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You should kindly let us know which "other battery saver" app you are talking about... As we are looking for the best to get the longest the battery life.
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as you wish to help
i have try some battery saver app : juiced (free n ultimate), go prowe, 2x battery, battery booster, batery saver DU.
and this my review (other people may have different exp)
Juiced defender (FREE)
this is most easy UI and saver that i have try , Why not ulitame ? the ultimate too much setting it's bothering for many user
GO Power
I like this design (old version). it have gr8 feature if you have PRO version (we talk Free user,right) and time management for profile
this's my first app i use. since the update cutting their feature and design have changed. i dont like it
2x battery
Simple and little ram memory usage means save battery and performace too
battery saver DU - battery booster
80% have same interface between booster and saver DU. but i prefer saver DU cz have more feature
Deep slep battery
i have try this app for several day, and it not so much saving battery than other
thats it, hope it will help you
I have upgraded my Galaxy W to Jelly Bean using Custom Room (4.2.2) Cyanogenmod 10.1 alpha 2. maybe later alpha 3.
Everything runs well. but why my phone's battery drains so fast? and please help me HOW TO SOLVE IT AND MAKE IT LAST LONG TIME???
THANKS VERY MUCH....
Backup your apps, factory reset your phone. If battery drain problem persists, install Greenify or deep Sleep battery saver from Google Play to better manage battery resources.
Lim Wee Huat said:
Backup your apps, factory reset your phone. If battery drain problem persists, install Greenify or deep Sleep battery saver from Google Play to better manage battery resources.
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Thank you for your suggestion... I will try....
Electro Tobib Muhajir said:
Thank you for your suggestion... I will try....
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when you just flashed the battery will definitely be shorter. Let it recharge for a few cycles before determining whether its good or bad battery life. Keep in mind however that even at full potential, the battery will not last for more than 2 days even at light usage.
if battery life is more important to you compared to "the newest OS" and whatever extra features it brings with it, then I highly recommend installing acro's CM9 RC2 (yes it is ICS) as the 2.x.x kernel is far better at battery life than 3.x.x (i'm currently testing it and I can already feel the difference! I believe I can reach 2.5 days at modest usage but I will have to update you on that after my first few discharge cycle for battery to reach potential after flashing new rom). I do, however notice a few annoyances with RC2 (not sure if its really the ROM, or the custom kernel i'm using, or Nova Launcher is to be blamed), so if it continues to bug me I may just switch back out to latest ICS =p.
If keeping with the latest JB is important for u, best thing you could do is download a custom kernel for it that supports UV(undervolting), then get IncrediControl and tune down your UV based on some voltage tables you can find in FAQ. This alone won't bring you a HUGE improvement in battery life but its definitely an observable difference. On top of UV, try to UC(underclock) your CPU to 1GHz. Most daily functions, apps and games (depending on how intensive it is) will work perfectly smooth even at 1GHz. IMO, the most important point of UCing is you will notice a very significant difference in the heat of your battery (ie backcover of your phone). Heat is generally bad for the battery (shorter life + faster draining) so UC is definitely a good thing to do =). Of course, on top of all those, get greenify and wakelock detector(WLD) from market to control your not-so-frequently-used apps. Use WLD to track down what is keeping your phone awake (hence drain more battery) and use greenify to hibernate all the not-so-frequently-used apps you have (example of things you DON'T want to greenify: whatsapp and gmail as you don't want to kill these 2 programs when you lock your screen. You want to continue receiving whatsapp messages and gmail when you locked your screen right? XD! Examples of things you SHOULD greenify: games, music player. Maybe some of the games or other apps may keep a background service active, secretly using your battery even though the last time you used it was 2 days ago!)
Finally, if your wonder is about 1-1.5 years old, chances are your battery is already bloated (perhaps you can feel your battery through the backcover of your phone even!) A bloated battery is a dangerous and short-capacity battery. Even with the best rom you may only push through a day from 100-0%. If your battery still looks fine but your phone is nearing its birthday, go ahead and do some online shopping (ebay or local equivalent, like malaysia we have Lelong.com.my) and get a battery for your phone. Its usually much cheaper than buying from telephone shops.
EDIT: Adding on to all of that, choosing a good governor+i/o scheduler combo is important as well. If our phone is similar with the S+, smartassv2+sio(i've used this, its quite smooth and battery is good) OR OnDemand+noop is thought to be very good in terms of battery life and responsiveness. Lulzactive is also very good but its not so easy to tune it so i usually would stay away from it. Do bear in mind that although the former 2 combo is good, it still highly depends on how you use your phone so there will not be a universally best governor+io combo. Both of those suggested by me are supposingly best in responsiveness as well as deepsleep battery conserving (only if the assumption that our roms work the same as the roms tested in S+, which MAY NOT be true).
TL;DR? try smartassv2+sio (u may change this using IncrediControl, get from playstore). Then if you are not satisfied with your current performance/battery life, you may continue experimenting by changing governor and i/o scheduler one at a time. If you are doing the testing, make sure to have some way to record your tests if not you will 100% be deceived by placebo!(with actual numbers you will clearly see whether your feeling is placebo or if there really is an improvement)
I'm having some seeeeerious battery issues with alpha3. With just 15 minutes screen usage in a day, battery settings says my screen used up more than 20% of the battery! This just for consulting the time and the weather.
oribunokiyuusou said:
I'm having some seeeeerious battery issues with alpha3. With just 15 minutes screen usage in a day, battery settings says my screen used up more than 20% of the battery! This just for consulting the time and the weather.
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Sounds like your battery is bloated. Can u show me a screenshot of your battery graph and app usage?
oribunokiyuusou said:
I'm having some seeeeerious battery issues with alpha3. With just 15 minutes screen usage in a day, battery settings says my screen used up more than 20% of the battery! This just for consulting the time and the weather.
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that 20% is not actually the 20% of the battery juice. It is 20% of whatever amount of battery is drained due to the display being ON. Like if your battery is used from 100% to 90%, then only 2% is used by the display.
I am not sure if I could explain what I mean.
EDIT: Hmmm maybe I misunderstood what you said... If that is the case, disregard.
And also my galaxy W will use all of its battery charge when the display is constantly ON for about 3-5 hours.
Actually, I've figured out what it was. It was Google Now. Chewing away at the battery without saying a word anywhere in the battery screen. I am now back to my old 3 days battery.
you need to install cpu spay from google play and you need look deep sleep time.
this reaction is typical if your coming from a stock or at least cm9.
there has been a lot of arguments about battery life of cm10 and above.
in my opinion, there really is a difference, i mean cm10+ drains battery faster.
and the reason being is of course the features there is in cm10++.
if you're after battery life, stay with stock or cm9 (for now).
but if you feel like your in with cm10+ and you don't want to go back like me, then may want to try these tricks:
1) using Titanium Backup, freeze the apps that you don't really use.
- in my phone i froze pico tts, voice search, talk back, etc. (i even froze google search )
2) i use an app called "autostarts", it can disable auto starting of app including those of the system.
- in my phone, i disabled google maps in every activity. ex. after startup, connectivity changed, wifi connected, widget updating
3) disable system settings which also contribute to battery draining.
- disable location service when your not using it
- disable automatic backup/restore
- disable haptic feedback
- disable autosync
- disable the top battery drainers when not in use (wifi, mobile data, gps, bluetooth)
- and many more just explore
4) do not use so many widgets (my home screen has 0 widget)
5) do not use live wallpaper
6) charge only using the original charger, not from other phone/brand, not from a usb port
- the best way to charge is to avoid using the phone until it's fully charged
7) finally, install only apps that you really need. just keep a backup of your not so often used apps and install only when you need them
If you think about it, everything i wrote above contradicts with the original concept of Android.
But that's life, sometimes you have to trade something in order to achieve another.
Our phone was baked as Gingerbread, now we want to make it taste like Jellybean.
We have all the ingredients, but we don't have a jelly bean pan to make the candy molds.
So we improvise, we work around, we do some shortcuts, we make alternatives, certainly it will cost something.
egagah said:
when you just flashed the battery will definitely be shorter. Let it recharge for a few cycles before determining whether its good or bad battery life. Keep in mind however that even at full potential, the battery will not last for more than 2 days even at light usage.
if battery life is more important to you compared to "the newest OS" and whatever extra features it brings with it, then I highly recommend installing acro's CM9 RC2 (yes it is ICS) as the 2.x.x kernel is far better at battery life than 3.x.x (i'm currently testing it and I can already feel the difference! I believe I can reach 2.5 days at modest usage but I will have to update you on that after my first few discharge cycle for battery to reach potential after flashing new rom). I do, however notice a few annoyances with RC2 (not sure if its really the ROM, or the custom kernel i'm using, or Nova Launcher is to be blamed), so if it continues to bug me I may just switch back out to latest ICS =p.
If keeping with the latest JB is important for u, best thing you could do is download a custom kernel for it that supports UV(undervolting), then get IncrediControl and tune down your UV based on some voltage tables you can find in FAQ. This alone won't bring you a HUGE improvement in battery life but its definitely an observable difference. On top of UV, try to UC(underclock) your CPU to 1GHz. Most daily functions, apps and games (depending on how intensive it is) will work perfectly smooth even at 1GHz. IMO, the most important point of UCing is you will notice a very significant difference in the heat of your battery (ie backcover of your phone). Heat is generally bad for the battery (shorter life + faster draining) so UC is definitely a good thing to do =). Of course, on top of all those, get greenify and wakelock detector(WLD) from market to control your not-so-frequently-used apps. Use WLD to track down what is keeping your phone awake (hence drain more battery) and use greenify to hibernate all the not-so-frequently-used apps you have (example of things you DON'T want to greenify: whatsapp and gmail as you don't want to kill these 2 programs when you lock your screen. You want to continue receiving whatsapp messages and gmail when you locked your screen right? XD! Examples of things you SHOULD greenify: games, music player. Maybe some of the games or other apps may keep a background service active, secretly using your battery even though the last time you used it was 2 days ago!)
Finally, if your wonder is about 1-1.5 years old, chances are your battery is already bloated (perhaps you can feel your battery through the backcover of your phone even!) A bloated battery is a dangerous and short-capacity battery. Even with the best rom you may only push through a day from 100-0%. If your battery still looks fine but your phone is nearing its birthday, go ahead and do some online shopping (ebay or local equivalent, like malaysia we have Lelong.com.my) and get a battery for your phone. Its usually much cheaper than buying from telephone shops.
EDIT: Adding on to all of that, choosing a good governor+i/o scheduler combo is important as well. If our phone is similar with the S+, smartassv2+sio(i've used this, its quite smooth and battery is good) OR OnDemand+noop is thought to be very good in terms of battery life and responsiveness. Lulzactive is also very good but its not so easy to tune it so i usually would stay away from it. Do bear in mind that although the former 2 combo is good, it still highly depends on how you use your phone so there will not be a universally best governor+io combo. Both of those suggested by me are supposingly best in responsiveness as well as deepsleep battery conserving (only if the assumption that our roms work the same as the roms tested in S+, which MAY NOT be true).
TL;DR? try smartassv2+sio (u may change this using IncrediControl, get from playstore). Then if you are not satisfied with your current performance/battery life, you may continue experimenting by changing governor and i/o scheduler one at a time. If you are doing the testing, make sure to have some way to record your tests if not you will 100% be deceived by placebo!(with actual numbers you will clearly see whether your feeling is placebo or if there really is an improvement)
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thanks a lot. that's very helpful for me..
klacenas said:
this reaction is typical if your coming from a stock or at least cm9.
there has been a lot of arguments about battery life of cm10 and above.
in my opinion, there really is a difference, i mean cm10+ drains battery faster.
and the reason being is of course the features there is in cm10++.
if you're after battery life, stay with stock or cm9 (for now).
but if you feel like your in with cm10+ and you don't want to go back like me, then may want to try these tricks:
1) using Titanium Backup, freeze the apps that you don't really use.
- in my phone i froze pico tts, voice search, talk back, etc. (i even froze google search )
2) i use an app called "autostarts", it can disable auto starting of app including those of the system.
- in my phone, i disabled google maps in every activity. ex. after startup, connectivity changed, wifi connected, widget updating
3) disable system settings which also contribute to battery draining.
- disable location service when your not using it
- disable automatic backup/restore
- disable haptic feedback
- disable autosync
- disable the top battery drainers when not in use (wifi, mobile data, gps, bluetooth)
- and many more just explore
4) do not use so many widgets (my home screen has 0 widget)
5) do not use live wallpaper
6) charge only using the original charger, not from other phone/brand, not from a usb port
- the best way to charge is to avoid using the phone until it's fully charged
7) finally, install only apps that you really need. just keep a backup of your not so often used apps and install only when you need them
If you think about it, everything i wrote above contradicts with the original concept of Android.
But that's life, sometimes you have to trade something in order to achieve another.
Our phone was baked as Gingerbread, now we want to make it taste like Jellybean.
We have all the ingredients, but we don't have a jelly bean pan to make the candy molds.
So we improvise, we work around, we do some shortcuts, we make alternatives, certainly it will cost something.
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yups...nice suggestion... thanks very much...:good::good::good:
Lim Wee Huat said:
Backup your apps, factory reset your phone. If battery drain problem persists, install Greenify or deep Sleep battery saver from Google Play to better manage battery resources.
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THANKS...
oribunokiyuusou said:
I'm having some seeeeerious battery issues with alpha3. With just 15 minutes screen usage in a day, battery settings says my screen used up more than 20% of the battery! This just for consulting the time and the weather.
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me too.... more than 20%, whereas my battery is in sleep screen and in the lowest brightness
Me too
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smeone here is right about cm9 rc2 i just flashed it and used a while.. battery seems to be 2x longer than 4.4 kitkat
here is there link
http://mygalaxywonder.blogspot.sg/2012/09/cyanogenmod-9-cm9-alpha-build-8-for.html
Magpir said:
smeone here is right about cm9 rc2 i just flashed it and used a while.. battery seems to be 2x longer than 4.4 kitkat
here is there link
http://mygalaxywonder.blogspot.sg/2012/09/cyanogenmod-9-cm9-alpha-build-8-for.html
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No....no....no....
That link will redirect you to a website that has kanged Arco's hard work and NOT given due credit....
Here is the correct, original link....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576874
........right here on XDA...
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
I wanna receive better battery stats since I'm only getting 1-2 ost ,and I read that greenify is recommended ,well is it useful ??
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It keeps apps from waking the device and running unnecessarily in the background. I use it for Maps so it isn't eating up resources and draining my battery. Technically you should see better battery life if you hibernate the right apps with Greenify.
t1.8matt said:
It keeps apps from waking the device and running unnecessarily in the background. I use it for Maps so it isn't eating up resources and draining my battery. Technically you should see better battery life if you hibernate the right apps with Greenify.
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I know to hibernate maps/GPS but do you have any apps I should also hibernate
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t1.8matt said:
It keeps apps from waking the device and running unnecessarily in the background. I use it for Maps so it isn't eating up resources and draining my battery. Technically you should see better battery life if you hibernate the right apps with Greenify.
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I toggle the location services in the settings when I am at a familiar place. Saves a LOT of battery.
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used it but now choosing to use 2x battery
can't really say it's better or not but from my view 2x battery have better options like screen filters and such
but like all batteries (obviously) depends relatively on usage
powerkid39 said:
used it but now choosing to use 2x battery
can't really say it's better or not but from my view 2x battery have better options like screen filters and such
but like all batteries (obviously) depends relatively on usage
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You're comparing apples to oranges there. Those two apps don't even remotely do the same thing. Greenify's sole function is to shut down those pesky apps that think they deserve to run services in memory when they really aren't needed. Many apps/games do this. It's gotten to the point of stupid and, imho, is the fatal flaw in Android. They need to implement something to end this behavior.
Say you install ten games and each one is coded to run a service in the background (either to collect data about you or just because they can). Now your phone is sluggish and runs like crap because you no longer have enough memory left over for your phone to cache previously opened apps. So now when you open an app, it has to load from scratch. And now when you open an app, android has to knock out one of those services to make enough room to load that app. But guess what, that service is coded to auto reload itself and to make room for itself, so it must knock out a different service to make room for itself. Now that service that just got knocked out wants to reload but has to knock out another one... and the cycle goes on and on. Services that aren't needed reloading and Android kicking the others out of memory in an endless battle for memory.
Now this scenario only happens in low memory situations, but it really doesn't take that many needless apps running services in the background to put the Galaxy Nexus in this situation.
This is why you see so many Android phones that just run like garbage even when they have a good processor and memory. And this is one of many reasons for crappy battery life.
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