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Three days ago I went through the process of rooting my kindle fire using KFU. Being a noob, this took me many many hours. I got everything to work, GO Launcher, Google Play, Amazon App store. I even used the Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper to temporily un-root so that I can watch amazon streaming videos. I was feeling pretty good about my accomplishment.
Late last night, for no apparent reason, the Kindle Fire restarted itself and got stuck on the yellow triangle (is this FireFireFire?). I got nervous, freaked out a little. I plugged into my computer and tried to restart the Kindle after selecting 'Recovery (5001)'. No luck. I then tried the same thing after selecting 'Normal (4000)'. I could hear the USB connect/disconnect many times and then I saw the "Kindle Fire" screen and let out a sigh of relief. It booted up just fine. This was about 2 hours ago.
But, now, my Kindle randomly goes back to the yellow triangle and hangs there. I need to go through the same process above to fix things. This has happened at least four times already. It did not seem to happen while the Kindle was "connected" to my computer. It happens once I 'disconnect'.... usually after about 10 - 20 minutes. It has happened while using both GO Launcher EX and the Amazon Launcher. Any idea?
You've got the same issue I do - the kindle keeps trying to apply the new update, and it isn't working, dumping it into recovery mode. I haven't figured out an answer to getting the update successfully applied yet (will work on that tonight), but until that happens, you should be able to remove the update from the sdcard /kindleupdates, and through something like root explorer rename /etc/security/otacerts.zip to something like /etc/security/otacerts.bak (or better yet, move it to the sdcard). That will stop it from redownloading the update and auto-rebooting.
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Have you looked at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417234 thread. The video explains the most common fix, and he goes through it step by step.
Also, so you grow a thick skin for posting on this forum, check out this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633343.
Hope this helps
Thanks for listening.
Sincerely,
William
[Kindle Fire: gedeROM v1.2 {3.0 Kernel, CM9, Android 4.0.4} - Stock Kernel]
[HTC Evo 4G Supersonic: MikG 3.11 ROM - Chop Suey Custom Kernel]
[Retired: HTC CDMA Hero: Gingerbread Hero Deck ROM - Stock Kernel]
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Ok. I just tested it, and had it also confirmed in another thread, but here is one way to get 6.3.1 on when the update fails to apply, putting you into the recovery, force to normal boot, kindle updates, back to recovery loop:
if you have a copy on your device, copy the update to the root of the sdcard volume or download it from amazon. Rename the file update.zip, then reboot into recovery.
Under install, install the update.zip. Once it is done, you'll have 6.3.1 applied. Now, you'll have to both reroot, and reinstall recovery, but since you just did it with KFU a few days ago, it should be pretty quick. Then go move/rename the otacerts.zip file to prevent the next unexpected update.
There might be another way that doesn't blow away recovery, but this worked for me.
Thanks so much for all of the help! It looks like everything is working again. I got 6.3.1 installed (not really sure how that happened but it did!). Also got re-rooted and reinstalled TWRP and did a backup. I renamed the otacerts.zip. There is also a cacerts.bks file in the /etc/security directory... what does that do?
Also... will I ever want/need the updates? I assume renaming the otacerts.zip stops the updates indefinitely. Will this ever be a problem?
Thanks again!
Moving the otacerts.zip prevents the kindle from automatically downloading updates. When a new update has been released, you can download it from amazon's site manually, or put back the cert file to enable the download. Since updates often break root, this method will help keep you rooted until it is known how to root the new versions. As for want/needing them, it'll depend on what changes, but as long as they are rootable, they should generally bring improvements for the device.
The. bks file is a keystore for the certificate authority certs. You shouldn't need to ever touch that file.
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Ok, I've got the exact same issue but one glaring difference. That after using KFU to boot to normal, it within 10-20sec powers down. Starting the bootloop all over. Don't know what to do, please help.
Does it actually fully boot into the kindle os? I haven't heard of it trying to apply the update that fast after start up, but not saying that it won't do that.
If using twrp, you can mount the kindle over usb from twrp - mount, and then move the update file out of kindleupdates. That should stop the boot cycle if it is being caused by the update. Another thing to check would be to look at the twrp console and make sure it is complaining about the update failing and not something else.
When I try to mount it ask me to format the drive, is that safe? Won't I lose everything then? Also, it won't allow me to select just the sd, it only allows me to select system.
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Ok, I've got the exact same issue but one glaring difference.
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That sounds eerily familiar...Where have I seen that before?
That after using KFU to boot to normal, it within 10-20sec powers down. Starting the bootloop all over. Don't know what to do, please help.
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Only kidding...Actually that problem isn't the same at all and is described in detail here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25400963
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When I try to mount it ask me to format the drive, is that safe? Won't I lose everything then? Also, it won't allow me to select just the sd, it only allows me to select system.
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Formatting your sdcard will erase everything on it. Besides trying to mount your sdcard, what are you trying to accomplish?
Well I'm stuck in bootloop with the powering off problem. The kindle is not recognized on the computer. All I want is to get the kindle back working. I have tried the unbrick utility but I think that made it worse. Getting back to a regular firmware even if its the latest would be fine. However being the noob that I am, I need step by step instructions. Thanks in advance.
ms6146 said:
Well I'm stuck in bootloop with the powering off problem. The kindle is not recognized on the computer. All I want is to get the kindle back working. I have tried the unbrick utility but I think that made it worse. Getting back to a regular firmware even if its the latest would be fine. However being the noob that I am, I need step by step instructions. Thanks in advance.
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Your problem can still be fixed, but considering the fact you can't get the computer to recognize your device, you only have a couple of options left:
You could acquire a factory cable which would directly power your device in order to replace the bootloader.
If you don't have the means to acquire a factory cable you need to mount your sdcard in order to transfer FFF1.4 for flashing in recovery. From what I understand in your earlier post, it would in your case, require formatting your sdcard
yellow triangle and restart, please help
Jarden said:
Three days ago I went through the process of rooting my kindle fire using KFU. Being a noob, this took me many many hours. I got everything to work, GO Launcher, Google Play, Amazon App store. I even used the Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper to temporily un-root so that I can watch amazon streaming videos. I was feeling pretty good about my accomplishment.
Late last night, for no apparent reason, the Kindle Fire restarted itself and got stuck on the yellow triangle (is this FireFireFire?). I got nervous, freaked out a little. I plugged into my computer and tried to restart the Kindle after selecting 'Recovery (5001)'. No luck. I then tried the same thing after selecting 'Normal (4000)'. I could hear the USB connect/disconnect many times and then I saw the "Kindle Fire" screen and let out a sigh of relief. It booted up just fine. This was about 2 hours ago.
But, now, my Kindle randomly goes back to the yellow triangle and hangs there. I need to go through the same process above to fix things. This has happened at least four times already. It did not seem to happen while the Kindle was "connected" to my computer. It happens once I 'disconnect'.... usually after about 10 - 20 minutes. It has happened while using both GO Launcher EX and the Amazon Launcher. Any idea?
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Hello Jarde, I have the same problem but I am super noob, my kindle is restarting at the yellow triangle every 3 seconds, you said " then tried the same thing after selecting 'Normal (4000)'. I could hear the USB connect/disconnect many times and then I saw the "Kindle Fire" screen and let out a sigh of relief", what do you mean selecting 'Normal (4000)', how can I do this?, and finally how did you solve the problem, thanks a lot and sorry for my poor english.
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Hello Jarde, I have the same problem but I am super noob, my kindle is restarting at the yellow triangle every 3 seconds, you said " then tried the same thing after selecting 'Normal (4000)'. I could hear the USB connect/disconnect many times and then I saw the "Kindle Fire" screen and let out a sigh of relief", what do you mean selecting 'Normal (4000)', how can I do this?, and finally how did you solve the problem, thanks a lot and sorry for my poor english.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25400963
I had the same issue - shutdown after a few seconds after boot, then the KF boots back into yellow triangle error.
I was able to get out of this loop by booting into recovery and wiping the cache partition (and the Dalvik cache for good measure) to remove the downloaded update file. After wiping the caches, my KF rebooted normally without issue. I could then us Root Explorer to rename the /etc/security/otacerts.zip file to something else as suggested in an earlier post. I have not had a problem since.
To make a long an annoying story short, I've bricked my Kindle, tried every way possible on this site to fix it, but nothing helped.
I've tried all different programs and it all leads me to the same problem, it doesn't recognize my kindle.
It's not that my computer doesn't recognize it, because It's drivers were all correctly installed, and it doesn't give me errors. The programs are the ones that are not picking it up.
I've heard about it being in fastboot or something, but I've tried going that route, but the stupid thing would stay at waiting for device, forever.
I really need some help on this, because It's been bugging me for the past couple days.
Any help?
Could you post what you did or tried to do that bricked it?
99 times out of 100 rebooting will fix the "waiting for device" problem, especially if the PC drivers are installed appropriately, but I'm guessing you already tried that. I'd do it a few times, why not?
Other useful information would be....
What OS you are using
Whether you are using stock or custom rom
What versions of FFF and recovery you are using
When the incident occurred and the events that surround it
Your level of experience
How familiar you are with your OS
How familiar you are with command line interface
Your mother's maiden name (OK, maybe not)
You get the idea.
soupmagnet said:
Other useful information would be....
What OS you are using
Whether you are using stock or custom rom
What versions of FFF and recovery you are using
When the incident occurred and the events that surround it
Your level of experience
How familiar you are with your OS
How familiar you are with command line interface
Your mother's maiden name (OK, maybe not)
You get the idea.
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Win7 64bit Ultimate
Stock
It's a clean kindle with nothing on it that got bricked while I was rooting it, some how.
My experience is really only a 1 time root when i first bought it back in January.
Very familiar with my OS.
Average with command line interface
Assuming the kindle is powered down and unplugged from the computer.....press the power button as you normally would to boot the device. What happens? The more details the better. I'm still not sure how exactly you got in this situation. Obviously you were trying to root. With what....KFU or command line?
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Assuming the kindle is powered down and unplugged from the computer.....press the power button as you normally would to boot the device. What happens? The more details the better. I'm still not sure how exactly you got in this situation. Obviously you were trying to root. With what....KFU or command line?
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it stays on the kindle fire logo until i hard reset it.
I was using KFU when this happened.
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...and download FFF1.4
Mount your sdcard while in recovery and transfer the FFF1.4.zip from your computer. Install FFF1.4 in recovery (no wipe) and reboot.
As soon as you see the Blue kindle fire logo, hold the power button until you see options show up on the bottom. Use the power button to scroll through the options and select "Normal Boot"
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Go here
...and download FFF1.4
Mount your sdcard while in recovery and transfer the FFF1.4.zip from your computer. Install FFF1.4 in recovery (no wipe) and reboot.
As soon as you see the Blue kindle fire logo, hold the power button until you see options show up on the bottom. Use the power button to scroll through the options and select "Normal Boot"
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how am I supposed to put it on the kindle... Did you not read my other posts?
It won't let me do ANYTHING to it.
Did you install the drivers from kfu with your kindle plugged in?
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how am I supposed to put it on the kindle... Did you not read my other posts?
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Let me explain something to you, friend. When you sign up for XDA with a name like "needhelpplease3" that tells me that you are not here to be a part of the community and are for one reason and one reason only, you need help. A person such as yourself should tread very lightly when asking for help or you may miss out on what may be your only hope. I absolutely did read your other posts and I'm trying to help based on what I've seen. Your lack of information is making it rather difficult to pinpoint your problem effectively so you should, out of respect, be patient or provide some USEFUL information as to what your EXACT problem is. So, to be nice, I'll explain to you where you went wrong and how you can readdress the situation to get the help you need.
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To make a long an annoying story short, I've bricked my Kindle, tried every way possible on this site to fix it, but nothing helped.
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Don't make a long story short. The more information you can provide, the better.
I've tried all different programs and it all leads me to the same problem, it doesn't recognize my kindle.
It's not that my computer doesn't recognize it, because It's drivers were all correctly installed, and it doesn't give me errors. The programs are the ones that are not picking it up.
I've heard about it being in fastboot or something, but I've tried going that route, but the stupid thing would stay at waiting for device, forever.
I really need some help on this, because It's been bugging me for the past couple days.
Any help?
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We see 20 posts exactly like this every day and it hardly ever implies "It won't let me do ANYTHING to it."
Now, by "ANYTHING" do you mean the power won't come on? Or do you mean that the power comes on but you either aren't able to access recovery or don't know how? What happens when you try to power the device on?
Also, exactly at which point during the rooting process did your problem occur? Did you have a full battery when you started? Did you unplug the USB cable in at some point during the process?
You cannot expect us to effectively fix a problem that we can't see without going into GREAT detail with what you are experiencing.
I suggest we start over and try again, only this time with a better attitude and some more useful information.
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Let me explain something to you, friend. When you sign up for XDA with a name like "needhelpplease3" that tells me that you are not here to be a part of the community and are for one reason and one reason only, you need help. A person such as yourself should tread very lightly when asking for help or you may miss out on what may be your only hope. I absolutely did read your other posts and I'm trying to help based on what I've seen. Your lack of information is making it rather difficult to pinpoint your problem effectively so you should, out of respect, be patient or provide some USEFUL information as to what your EXACT problem is. So, to be nice, I'll explain to you where you went wrong and how you can readdress the situation to get the help you need.
Don't make a long story short. The more information you can provide, the better.
We see 20 posts exactly like this every day and it hardly ever implies "It won't let me do ANYTHING to it."
Now, by "ANYTHING" do you mean the power won't come on? Or do you mean that the power comes on but you either aren't able to access recovery or don't know how? What happens when you try to power the device on?
Also, exactly at which point during the rooting process did your problem occur? Did you have a full battery when you started? Did you unplug the USB cable in at some point during the process?
You cannot expect us to effectively fix a problem that we can't see without going into GREAT detail with what you are experiencing.
I suggest we start over and try again, only this time with a better attitude and some more useful information.
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Sorry, I've just been really agitated by this whole situation. I've asked another forum and got back with horrible answers.
To start all over again, this is what happened.
I had my kindle fire at 6.3, unrooted (only unrooted because of the update), and decided to why not root it again, just so it's updated.
I got all the necessities to root the kindle, the same things I used when I first got it, and started up the process.
At first, the drivers were giving me issues, but that got settled quite quickly.
Then when I started up KFU, I did the perm root, but it somehow got canceled in the middle of it, so I'm guessing that's what has screwed it up.
Now when I plug it into either my Wall or USB adapters, it doesn't work.
I've tried that hard reset way, where you hold down the power button for 30 seconds, and that didn't work either.
So I got fed up, and came here for answers.
Right now, it's basically a dead Kindle Fire.
Based on your answers it sounds like you are having a "power on" issue caused by a failed bootloader install.
Unfortunately there is only one known way to fix a broken bootloader, the USBboot method, and it requires removing the back cover and creating a short at a certain location.
It's tricky but effective and has helped many users with the same problem. Read over these two threads to get an idea of what needs to be done.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430038
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25624152
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Based on your answers it sounds like you are having a "power on" issue caused by a failed bootloader install.
Unfortunately there is only one known way to fix a broken bootloader, the USBboot method, and it requires removing the back cover and creating a short at a certain location.
It's tricky but effective and has helped many users with the same problem. Read over these two threads to get an idea of what needs to be done.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430038
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25624152
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Great... I'll try it. I'll tell ya what happens. Thanks
just got done doing the ubuntu way, with firekit.
Didn't work.
It just kept saying wait for device. + My Kindle was turning on and off.
needhelpplease3 said:
just got done doing the ubuntu way, with firekit.
Didn't work.
It just kept saying wait for device. + My Kindle was turning on and off.
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Just to make sure I understand correctly, your device was turning on and off while attempting the "shorting trick" or has it always been doing that?
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Just to make sure I understand correctly, your device was turning on and off while attempting the "shorting trick" or has it always been doing that?
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I didn't do the shorting trick. Doesn't seem like the safest thing to do, so i did the way without it and it didn't help.
Is my last option the shorting trick?
needhelpplease3 said:
I didn't do the shorting trick. Doesn't seem like the safest thing to do, so i did the way without it and it didn't help.
Is my last option the shorting trick?
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Stop! before you screw something up.
More to follow....
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Stop! before you screw something up.
More to follow....
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You're confusing me.
More to follow?
When I asked you "What happens when you try to power the device on?", I'm looking for specifics, i.e. "When I press the power button, nothing happens and the screen doesn't come on at all", or "The screen comes on, but the boot logo flashes on and off", or "The screen comes on, but hangs steady at the boot logo".
It is very important that you make this clear from the very beginning because it will help us in not telling you do do the wrong thing and potentially causing serious harm to your device.
I'm getting conflicting symptoms from you and it is making helping you rather difficult. If your screen doesn't come on at all the only fix for that starts with the "shorting trick". When you say that your screen was turning on and off it makes me think that it was doing that all along, which would require a completely fix.
If I'm going to help you I need to know exactly what is going on with your device along with any changes it has made and when they happened.
Hello All,
A friend of mine has possibly bricked his KF - but I'm not entirely sure, as he can't adequately describe to me what he did to it (or point me to th instructions he was following). I'm trying to get it running for him again, but honestly, while I have a rooted KF running hashcode's kernal, I simply followed instructions correctly (ie: I don't have actual knowledge of the inner workings).
Here's the deal with his KF:
- Powers on, and sticks at the "kindle fire" screen ("kindle" in white, "fire" in orange)
- I can see the KF when I use the devices command from adb
I'm running the current release of ubuntu - so KFU is not an option. Please advise if you have thoughts on how I can begin to resolve this issue. And I do apologize if this has been covered, as I'm sure it has, but most posts involving restoring fuctionality seem to be using KFU/windows.
Sent you a pm I can help
Thepooch said:
Sent you a pm I can help
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Thanks for helping buddy - I'll let you know when dude gets the factory cable.
celticGreen said:
Hello All,
A friend of mine has possibly bricked his KF - but I'm not entirely sure, as he can't adequately describe to me what he did to it (or point me to th instructions he was following). I'm trying to get it running for him again, but honestly, while I have a rooted KF running hashcode's kernal, I simply followed instructions correctly (ie: I don't have actual knowledge of the inner workings).
Here's the deal with his KF:
- Powers on, and sticks at the "kindle fire" screen ("kindle" in white, "fire" in orange)
- I can see the KF when I use the devices command from adb
I'm running the current release of ubuntu - so KFU is not an option. Please advise if you have thoughts on how I can begin to resolve this issue. And I do apologize if this has been covered, as I'm sure it has, but most posts involving restoring fuctionality seem to be using KFU/windows.
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My girlfriends KF has done this several times. Have you tried a reset? If not, hold the power button down for 20 seconds, then wait about a minute. If the KF does not boot up automatically then turn it on yourself. hopefully after the reset it will boot up correctly. If not, maybe you will have to wait for the factory cable.
Built a factory cable, and sure enough TWRP booted up just fine. Going to revert this thing to stock and be done with it...
Today I tried loading 4.1 Jellybean on my fire, but it wasn't opening applications properly and being annoying so I unloaded it. I used KFU to root it, and had TWRP recovery on it. I then figured I'd revert it back to the default OS, so I grabbed a copy of the kindle fire 6.2.1 software from Amazon's page and renamed it to update.zip (it converted to a .zip with identical contents to the one directly from KFU).When I had TWRP, KFU recognized my device as online, but didn't have a version, so there was no help there. I wiped the entire thing using the recovery tool and then I hit "Install --> Update.zip". Everything seemed fine after this worked, so I rebooted the device. I thought it worked, but now it's stuck at the Kindle Fire default splash screen. When I plug iit into my computer, Windows doesn't recognize it, nor does KFU. I haven't tried letting the battery drain (since that would take awhile), but it seems like it's bricked. Please help!
EDIT: My main problem right now is that it can't even be recognized at windows. I feel like it's stuck in the wrong fastboot mode right now, but I can't even get windows to recognize it. Also, it's not running Fire fire fire, the splash screen shows the basic unanimated Kindle Fire logo. It's likely stuck on fastboot 4002 instead of 4000. I'm currently letting the battery drain so I can plug it in and see if windows will recognize it. My guess is that I can get it to work as long as windows will recognize it.
I don't have time right now to get into very much with you, so I'll have to edit my post when I can (unless someone beats me to it). For now, though...
DON'T LET YOUR BATTERY DIE!
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I don't have time right now to get into very much with you, so I'll have to edit my post when I can (unless someone beats me to it). For now, though...
DON'T LET YOUR BATTERY DIE!
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Are you sure about that? I was just reading about how it's just stuck in the fastbooter and I have to let the battery drain, plug it into my computer to get my computer to recognize it, and then it should work. Then I just have to change the fastbooter from 4002 to 4000 and it should work. Is this wrong?
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Are you sure about that? I was just reading about how it's just stuck in the fastbooter and I have to let the battery drain, plug it into my computer to get my computer to recognize it, and then it should work. Then I just have to change the fastbooter from 4002 to 4000 and it should work. Is this wrong?
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You're right, I'm lying to you. I have nothing better to do than to feed you misinformation in the hopes that it will prolong your suffering.
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You're right, I'm lying to you. I have nothing better to do than to feed you misinformation in the hopes that it will prolong your suffering.
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I know that you know more about this than me, but I feel like if it's stuck on the wrong fastboot type, preventing the battery from draining would be a bad idea (or at least slow down the "fixing" processor). Sorry, but why does that seem so wrong?
Since you are having trouble spotting the STICKY at the top of this forum, I'll help you out a bit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25400963
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You're right, I'm lying to you. I have nothing better to do than to feed you misinformation in the hopes that it will prolong your suffering.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20619033&postcount=11
This is what I read that might solve my problem. Does it seem incorrect? I feel like the only way to get it to recognize the kindle fire in windows is to either manually put it in USB mode by prying off the back cover, or to let the battery drain.
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Since you are having trouble spotting the STICKY at the top of this forum, I'll help you out a bit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25400963
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But my Fire won't even work when plugged into my computer. Can you really quickly explain any steps I should take to at least get windows to recognize it? Thanks!
shnish said:
But my Fire won't even work when plugged into my computer. Can you really quickly explain any steps I should take to at least get windows to recognize it? Thanks!
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umm...
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I don't have time right now to get into very much with you, so I'll have to edit my post when I can (unless someone beats me to it). For now, though...
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umm...
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Alright. Looks like I might need a factory cable?
shnish said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20619033&postcount=11
This is what I read that might solve my problem. Does it seem incorrect? I feel like the only way to get it to recognize the kindle fire in windows is to either manually put it in USB mode by prying off the back cover, or to let the battery drain.
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Some of the ideas in the post are going in the right direction, but draining your battery is not one of them. That would only complicate matters.
I suggest you slow down and do some reading...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668159
You must first determine what state your device is in based on what happens when the device powers up. The only way you'll be able to fix this problem quickly is if you are truly in fastboot mode, but I have some doubts about that. If you do not understand the terminology used in the post above, you must read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
If you are going to rely on the help of others here, you are going to have to learn the jargon and understand how these parts fit together. I suggest you do that before proceeding.
The second post in that guide will help you to fix your device drivers and have the computer recognize the device.
Personally, if I were in your shoes, I'd find a way back to fastboot mode and reflash TWRP and then FFF from TWRP before trying to boot it normally. If your system partition happens to be broken and you reboot it into it, you'll be going backwards and then you'll need a factory cable or have to open up the case.
kinfauns said:
Some of the ideas in the post are going in the right direction, but draining your battery is not one of them. That would only complicate matters.
I suggest you slow down and do some reading...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668159
You must first determine what state your device is in based on what happens when the device powers up. The only way you'll be able to fix this problem quickly is if you are truly in fastboot mode, but I have some doubts about that. If you do not understand the terminology used in the post above, you must read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
If you are going to rely on the help of others here, you are going to have to learn the jargon and understand how these parts fit together. I suggest you do that before proceeding.
The second post in that guide will help you to fix your device drivers and have the computer recognize the device.
Personally, if I were in your shoes, I'd find a way back to fastboot mode and reflash TWRP and then FFF from TWRP before trying to boot it normally. If your system partition happens to be broken and you reboot it into it, you'll be going backwards and then you'll need a factory cable or have to open up the case.
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The device ended up losing power, but it still powers on properly when I plug it in (stuck on the kindle fire logo, of course).
I suppose it's not in fastboot mode, it's just stuck on the stock loader. I'm not quite positive, but it seems like I'll need a factory cable to get this thing working again. I really don't want to have to blow any money on this, if I can revert it back to stock settings easily, I'll never mess with it again. Is there any additional help that can be given if it's stuck on an unanimated stock screen and won't be recognized by windows?
shnish said:
Is there any additional help that can be given if it's stuck on an unanimated stock screen and won't be recognized by windows?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30629067
[Edit:] This might be helpful as well...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31117605
soupmagnet said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30629067
[Edit:] This might be helpful as well...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31117605
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So if I install Ubuntu, I should be good to go? Ubuntu will recognize the kindle fire?
Read the post I gave you.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30629067
[Edit:] This might be helpful as well...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31117605
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Yes. He has the exact same problem as me! I did the same thing as him, and I'm really hoping I'll be able to solve this issue. All I want is the stock kindle back so I can stop worrying. I've read through tons of these posts (I have 13 xda posts open in my browser), but none of them seem too helpful as to how I can get my computer to recognize the Kindle. My guess is that Ubuntu won't recognize the Kindle either, though. In that case, would a factory cable solve all my problems? I stupidly removed root access by simply updating my kindle fire without thinking of the problems that could have come with that. I figured it would just remove root access and start booting up normally. I was very wrong.
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Read the post I gave you.
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I'm going to try it in Ubuntu, but assuming that doesn't work, I'll need to get a factory cable. What do I do to revert to stock settings once I have a factory cable?
I'm really trying to be patient with you, but you're making it extremely difficult for me.
Your lack of attention is troubling. If you would take some time to actually read and process the information given to you, you would see that everything you need to know to fix your problem is there. Be a little less argumentative and follow direction, and you'll see that, not only are people more willing to help but you'll have your problem solved a lot easier and faster than you are now.
That being said, this will be the last bit of help you'll recieve from me...
The first link I gave you, sends you to my SoupKit thread. Read it. Ubuntu(Linux) does not detect the Kindle Fire (or any Android device) by default; it must be configured, which is why I sent you to the "Idiot-proof way to configure Linux for adb and fastboot".
While booted into Linux, run the script and reboot; that's it. You can figure out how to fix your Kindle on your own from there.
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I'm really trying to be patient with you, but you're making it extremely difficult for me.
Your lack of attention is troubling. If you would take some time to actually read and process the information given to you, you would see that everything you need to know to fix your problem is there. Be a little less argumentative and follow direction, and you'll see that, not only are people more willing to help but you'll have your problem solved a lot easier and faster than you are now.
That being said, this will be the last bit of help you'll recieve from me...
The first link I gave you, sends you to my SoupKit thread. Read it. Ubuntu(Linux) does not detect the Kindle Fire (or any Android device) by default; it must be configured, which is why I sent you to the "Idiot-proof way to configure Linux for adb and fastboot".
While booted into Linux, run the script and reboot; that's it. You can figure out how to fix your Kindle on your own from there.
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Thanks. I normally wouldn't act this way, but I'm having trouble calming down about this (I usually get this way when technology breaks). I know that in the end everything should be fine, but for some reason I can't get myself to actually stop worrying about the damn thing. I really do appreciate all your help, and I swear I have been reading all the links that have been sent. It's just that even with what I've read, I don't 100% understand everything. I know the general problem with it, but I'm a complete noob with shell commands. Fixing it once I can actually connect should be easier, just have to put the recovery back onto it and properly set it back to stock settings, right?
shnish said:
Thanks. I normally wouldn't act this way, but I'm having trouble calming down about this (I usually get this way when technology breaks). I know that in the end everything should be fine, but for some reason I can't get myself to actually stop worrying about the damn thing. I really do appreciate all your help, and I swear I have been reading all the links that have been sent. It's just that even with what I've read, I don't 100% understand everything. I know the general problem with it, but I'm a complete noob with shell commands. Fixing it once I can actually connect should be easier, just have to put the recovery back onto it and properly set it back to stock settings, right?
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I believe im having the "5 second bootloop" problem, no idea why since my KF was never rooted, flashed, or modified in any way. I plugged the Micro B in the KF (KF was off) and then plugged the Type-A end into my PC, the KF turned on in like 10 seconds (maybe less) and it isn't doing the bootloop anymore which i guess is a good thing but its been like 10 minutes and it still just says kindle fire (with a green light on the bottom). What should I do from here for my specific situation? Any help would be great! Thanks in advance!
edit: just wanted to add that before when i would plug it in, it would keep rebooting and usually not even get to the slide to unlock screen, but sometimes it would and then instantly reboot again.
First off...what bootloader do you have installed?
How could I find out? I never modified it if that helps? So it should be stock everything.
also i downloaded KFU and installed the drivers, but it does not recognize my device, altho when i first plugged it in after installing the drivers it said kindle in Device Manager, since it didnt go anywhere i unplugged the kindle and turned it off, when i tried again it installed ADB, but still doesnt recognize it (it also prompted me to restart, which i did right before i posted this reply, and still not recognized, also still at the kindle fire screen with green light on)
Untraumatized said:
How could I find out? I never modified it if that helps? So it should be stock everything.
also i downloaded KFU and installed the drivers, but it does not recognize my device, altho when i first plugged it in after installing the drivers it said kindle in Device Manager, since it didnt go anywhere i unplugged the kindle and turned it off, when i tried again it installed ADB, but still doesnt recognize it (it also prompted me to restart, which i did right before i posted this reply, and still not recognized, also still at the kindle fire screen with green light on)
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ok so i read that sometimes it just wont read that it worked... so i check device manager, it said android phone, went to KFU, still said unknown after 0+enter, then i tried 3, it said it worked and to press any key to reboot, i pressed a key but the kindle didnt reboot, is it supposed to? also i tried 4 then like i read to do and it says the download path is incorrect so whats wrong?
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ok so i read that sometimes it just wont read that it worked... so i check device manager, it said android phone, went to KFU, still said unknown after 0+enter, then i tried 3, it said it worked and to press any key to reboot, i pressed a key but the kindle didnt reboot, is it supposed to? also i tried 4 then like i read to do and it says the download path is incorrect so whats wrong?
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sorry for triple posting i will fix it but i dont want to confuse you on the timing of these events lol... so i figured out that CWM may be broken right now??? anyways since twrp worked i insatlled FFF with worked and now its at a menu that is kindle fire but BLUE fire text and says press power button for boot menu, but when i do that it doesnt do anything, do i need to unplug it?
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sorry for triple posting i will fix it but i dont want to confuse you on the timing of these events lol... so i figured out that CWM may be broken right now??? anyways since twrp worked i insatlled FFF with worked and now its at a menu that is kindle fire but BLUE fire text and says press power button for boot menu, but when i do that it doesnt do anything, do i need to unplug it?
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you still there buddy? lol, i unplugged it and ya that worked, so now im at TWRP, just because it seems like a good idea i am backing up the things that were already checkmarked when i clicked backup
but now im afraid to continue without help, what step am i at exactly now? lol
EDIT: stuck at the end of the backup, been stuck there a while, will probably try to turn it off in a few minutes or so... anybody have some advice?
How about a little more information about what it is you intend to accomplish with your device?
soupmagnet said:
How about a little more information about what it is you intend to accomplish with your device?
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i just want it to work! my power went out one day while i was sleeping and it was charging, for some reason it was dead (had been at 100% so shouldnt have drained, but the power going out messed with it) and when i tried to charge it, it bootloops
right now i have TWRP installed and FFF installed, what should i do now? i have tried booting it up and it just gets to the slide to unlock screen and then resets back to the blue kindle fire screen
i also just tried to install permanent root with superuser and it seemed to be working then said rebooting and "please wait...." and it never did anything (except the kindle booted back to the blue kind fire screen)
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i just want it to work! my power went out one day while i was sleeping and it was charging, for some reason it was dead (had been at 100% so shouldnt have drained, but the power going out messed with it) and when i tried to charge it, it bootloops
right now i have TWRP installed and FFF installed, what should i do now? i have tried booting it up and it just gets to the slide to unlock screen and then resets back to the blue kindle fire screen
i also just tried to install permanent root with superuser and it seemed to be working then said rebooting and "please wait...." and it never did anything (except the kindle booted back to the blue kind fire screen)
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ANY help would be appreciated... im sitting here screwing with it waiting for a reply....
Untraumatized said:
ANY help would be appreciated... im sitting here screwing with it waiting for a reply....
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well i managed to fix it by just factory resetting it with no help AT ALL
Very likely the factory reset had nothing to do with it. Just simply having it plugged in via USB may have given it enough time to charge. Questions of this nature are best handled in q & a not in development.
Untraumatized said:
well i managed to fix it by just factory resetting it with no help AT ALL
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I'm sorry for not sitting at my computer, waiting with baited breath for you to respond, so I can devote all of my attention to your problem. I hope you can forgive me.
I wasnt trying to be offensive lol I was just proud to figure it out with NO HELP AT ALL! But anyways I am pretty sure it wasnt the charge because it was at 56% before and after i did the factory reset, and after the factory reset i backed it up and it finished that time (last time i had to unplug the KF and hard reset it)... Also I tried resetting it a couple times before the factory reset and it always rebooted once it got to the slide to unlock screen. Anyways it works, I am probably going to give it to my mom because of the simplicity (she just needs email, and internet... lol) and I might try to get my hands on a Nexus 7
AND HOW DO I DELETE ALL THOSE REPOSTS? THE DELETE BUTTON ISNT WORKING FOR ME ^__^'
Untraumatized said:
I wasnt trying to be offensive lol I was just proud to figure it out with NO HELP AT ALL! But anyways I am pretty sure it wasnt the charge because it was at 56% before and after i did the factory reset, and after the factory reset i backed it up and it finished that time (last time i had to unplug the KF and hard reset it)... Also I tried resetting it a couple times before the factory reset and it always rebooted once it got to the slide to unlock screen. Anyways it works, I am probably going to give it to my mom because of the simplicity (she just needs email, and internet... lol) and I might try to get my hands on a Nexus 7
AND HOW DO I DELETE ALL THOSE REPOSTS? THE DELETE BUTTON ISNT WORKING FOR ME ^__^'
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Correct me if im wrong but you can't delete posts....but this thread should not be in Android Dev section, it should be in Q and A... Not to be mean or anything I am going to report this thread so it can be moved to the right section (to help the mods out)
OP, First This Thread Is In The Wrong Place. And It Appears To Me Users Where Trying To Help, On Limited Information. But You Figure It Out On Your Own Great.
Thank You And Thread Closed.