[Q] Arc S can't play heavy 3D games. Why??? - Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So...this may seem a noobish question...but i don't think it is so.
Today I made an experiment, a test between some devices to see how they played good 3D games. I chose for it:
1: Sony xperia arc s, with stock ICS rom and kernel.
2: Samsung galaxy s 2, with stock ICS rom and kernel.
3: Samsung old galaxy tab p1000 7inches (single core 1ghz cpu and 512mb Ram), with Aokp rom and kernel.
And I tried to run:
A: Temple run.
B: Babel rising 3d.
C: Castle master 3d.
And what I got???
Both Samsung devices could play every game of the 3 perfectly.
ARC S MANAGED TO PLAY ONLY TEMPLE RUN. The other two games started then freezed. And freezed the phone till I had to remove battery.
Try by yourself, installing and running castle master 3d from play(free game).
So...WTF?????? Is this a low Ram problem??? Why the hell the arc s, with a better hardware than the old galaxy tab, can't play quite heavy 3d games????

I always thought this was a low ram issue, back on gingerbread I could run GTA 3 perfectly, on ICS however it starts then freezes.
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Papolato said:
I always thought this was a low ram issue, back on gingerbread I could run GTA 3 perfectly, on ICS however it starts then freezes.
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Ok, I thought that too, but so...why could I play every game in the market with my old galaxy tab that has got only 512 mb ram and is running Ics???
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Using ICS on Arc/S is not good for gaming...
-Game can force close
-Crash
-Freeze (every 2mins)
-Rarely reboot the phone

MrModMan said:
Using ICS on Arc/S is not good for gaming...
-Game can force close
-Crash
-Freeze (every 2mins)
-Rarely reboot the phone
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ok, i saw it by myself, but why?? the system in arc s ics cannot free enough ram to play a game that runs smooth on other older devices?? can we do something more than just downgrading to gingerbread?? or the answer is that we have a crappy phone and we should take it as ****ty as it is?
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Install MooDeD 90.7... might work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526717

MrModMan said:
Install MooDeD 90.7... might work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526717
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Never. I'll never install the rom of a copycat. the worst rom in the forum. However, I tried each other rom and the problem persists. So it must be a sony base problem.
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How is a copycat? -.-, and its not a sony base problem its ICS -.- if i played heavy 3d games on GB it will work fine!

theduke89 said:
Ok, I thought that too, but so...why could I play every game in the market with my old galaxy tab that has got only 512 mb ram and is running Ics???
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Maybe it is because the system takes up more ram on the arc s than on the galaxy tab, so there is less available for the user. I think there is an app or something that can make your phone use some of the SD card as ram, That could help?
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Papolato said:
Maybe it is because the system takes up more ram on the arc s than on the galaxy tab, so there is less available for the user. I think there is an app or something that can make your phone use some of the SD card as ram, That could help?
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You mean swapper?
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alpha47 said:
You mean swapper?
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Yeah that's it! But never mind because....
I found a solution!
Now my 3d game I wanted to run was GTA 3. Whenever I tried, it would play for around 30 secs and then finish. I thought it was a ram issue, but I tried over clocking, now I never thought it would make a difference as because I'm on stock kernel it cannot go past the already reachable 1400, but I set the minimum from around 200 to around 1300 and the maximum to 1400, and now it can run GTA 3! Whenever I'm not playing I'll just change it back.
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Papolato said:
Yeah that's it! But never mind because....
I found a solution!
Now my 3d game I wanted to run was GTA 3. Whenever I tried, it would play for around 30 secs and then finish. I thought it was a ram issue, but I tried over clocking, now I never thought it would make a difference as because I'm on stock kernel it cannot go past the already reachable 1400, but I set the minimum from around 200 to around 1300 and the maximum to 1400, and now it can run GTA 3! Whenever I'm not playing I'll just change it back.
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doesn't work. try with castle master 3d. anyone tried with swap??
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theduke89 said:
doesn't work. try with castle master 3d. anyone tried with swap??
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Yeah sorry :/ just tried it again, ran buttery smooth for 30s then closed.
I'm not sure I want to try the swap because I heard it can reduce SD card lifespan, and i can't find my other SD card.
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Any suggestion?? except changing my device?

theduke89 said:
Any suggestion?? except changing my device?
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What ROM Are you using?
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Overclock your xperia to at least 1.5, seach for some GTA 3 tweaks using the seach, do a reboot before you start playing. It will work
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it works
do a reboot before you start playing
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Yes this works. I am playing Modern compat 2 doing the same procedure.

Will work on cm7 best gaming rom

I play nova 3 quite smoothly
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anyone tried chainfire's 3d drivers?
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Dead Space Works Again!! (CM7 Official version)

I have been trying to get dead space to work since i upgraded to gingerbread...it only worked on froyo for powervr (at least for me lol) because it always froze the phone or crashed...i tried the new version and it runs perfectly on my epic with cm7...thanks CM7 team..
p.s. off topic, there is a street fighter IV game for android floating around the internet and I think it awesome..
so how is it CM7 gets Dead Space and GTA3 to run? Can these games run on other ROMs?
j00manji said:
so how is it CM7 gets Dead Space and GTA3 to run? Can these games run on other ROMs?
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I' m not sure, deadspace always forced closed on me on the normal gingerbread and froze on cm7 but ea recently updated the deadspace game and rockstar updated the gta3 game for powervr phones (samsung and some motorolla phones), try the new versions of the apps and see if works for you..what rom are you on?
p.s. I have been running cm7 since november so I am not sure about other roms
iv been switching back and forth between Marcusants and CM7, mainly because I want to see how the CM7 holds up. Found out Marcus's ROM has way superior battery life and im sticking with that. I read somewhere that if you get it to play on CM7 then back it up you can restore it to any other ROM. Might try that out.
Edit: I just successfully installed GTA3 on Marcusants ROM. Just had to wait while the content was downloaded, make sure you let it do its thing when its downloading at 100%, DO NOT CANCEL and it should install fine
j00manji said:
iv been switching back and forth between Marcusants and CM7, mainly because I want to see how the CM7 holds up. Found out Marcus's ROM has way superior battery life and im sticking with that. I read somewhere that if you get it to play on CM7 then back it up you can restore it to any other ROM. Might try that out.
Edit: I just successfully installed GTA3 on Marcusants ROM. Just had to wait while the content was downloaded, make sure you let it do its thing when its downloading at 100%, DO NOT CANCEL and it should install fine
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I would not download everything again, that would be a pita especially since I dwnloaded those 400+MB of data over 3g -.- but I just backed everything up with titanium and even the sdcard data I copied it to my backups folder
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This is true finally dis game iz sweeet
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Right. And on cm7 I don't have to OC cpu or gpu or run any plugins or reduce quality. GTA III, Dead Space, ShadowGun, MC3, everything runs super smooth. God I love cm7.
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p.s. off topic, there is a street fighter IV game for android floating around the internet and I think it awesome..
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The version I have is HD and meant for tablets so I can only see part of the 720p image lol.
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My experience has been that Shadowgun and Dead Space both drop frames all over the place regardless of what rom I run. With a lot if onscreen action they both become slideshows. I'm on CM7 and it is not any better. Maybe 15 fps is acceptable for a phone game though.
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optimiss said:
The version I have is HD and meant for tablets so I can only see part of the 720p image lol.
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that are different versions for screen sizes and a version that works for our phone...there are specific instructions on getting the game to work...the game is awesome but it keeps crashing when i have to face "c viper" in tournament mode..
optimiss said:
My experience has been that Shadowgun and Dead Space both drop frames all over the place regardless of what rom I run. With a lot if onscreen action they both become slideshows. I'm on CM7 and it is not any better. Maybe 15 fps is acceptable for a phone game though.
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Running Marcusant v.1 bml - both those titles are perfectly smooth, given that I set the cpu governor to lock @ 1200mhz. DON'T USE PERFORMANCE GOVERNOR. It can drop and lock @ 800 or 400. Just keep it on ondemand ans set min and max the same. ;-)
also on earthbound's 3.3.0 250MHz/60Hz
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Tirregius said:
Running Marcusant v.1 bml - both those titles are perfectly smooth, given that I set the cpu governor to lock @ 1200mhz. DON'T USE PERFORMANCE GOVERNOR. It can drop and lock @ 800 or 400. Just keep it on ondemand ans set min and max the same. ;-)
also on earthbound's 3.3.0 250MHz/60Hz
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Thanks for the tip
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[Q] GTA III on galaxy gio with giopro v1.4

I recently installed Giopro 1.4 using ODIN, but now I can't do GTA III anymore. somebody a solution?
please no reactions with things like "install a different ROM" because I want to keep giopro 1.4.
Why You can't?
I was playing GTA 3 on GioPro 1.4
msip said:
Why You can't?
I was playing GTA 3 on GioPro 1.4
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when I install GTA III it starts up, but then after it downloaded the game data, it stays on a black screen. from where did u download it?
AswinYT said:
when I install GTA III it starts up, but then after it downloaded the game data, it stays on a black screen. from where did u download it?
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Thats normal with those games, you have to keep tapping the black screen, works for much games
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voetbalremco said:
Thats normal with those games, you have to keep tapping the black screen, works for much games
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I pressed on the black screen for about 10 minutes but it did'nt start up
what apk did u download?
I tried GTA once on my giopro rom but it's really laggy even without audio
what if you tried giopro 1.3?
punkerbruin said:
I tried GTA once on my giopro rom but it's really laggy even without audio
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Thats because our gio is not supported, a dual core is required, but you can play it, but laggy
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voetbalremco said:
Thats because our gio is not supported, a dual core is required, but you can play it, but laggy
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is there a way to play it anyway? (I still get a black screen, nothing else)

Gta 3 lags badly

Does anyone have suggestions on how to run gta 3 more smoothly on my wonder?
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Did you use a custom rom or stock rom?
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I agree, it always chrashes on my phone, havent tried to solve it though. V6 supercharger might help, also Gamebooster Root (paid app) might help. Im not sure because i havent tried. Please report if you get some improvement
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i played gta 3 with no lags
Maybe you can try to set cpu governor to perfomance (means it will run at 1.4Ghz all the time). This helped me with other games, but I haven't played gta 3.
iattilagy said:
Maybe you can try to set cpu governor to perfomance (means it will run at 1.4Ghz all the time). This helped me with other games, but I haven't played gta 3.
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Will that cost battery?
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Of course it will cost you battery. More than "ondemand"
Cause the CPU Speed is always at 1,4GhZ; which is alot.
And your device may get very hot..
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I have installed gamebooster v1.2 but it cant disable even i uninstalled gamebooster, but i have told gamebooster v1.3 the problem has been fixed, so have you link gamebooster v1.3? Thanks
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I also couldn't remove ultra gaming mode from game booster. Have removed the app, now my phone seems like it is out of ultra gaming mode because its not as hot as it used to be
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Help

Hey guys
I have question why my phone(arc s)
Keeps rebooting always when I open six guns
I just open it after cleaning memory
And suddenly every thing get very laggy
And after10 second reboot
Help plz
I am using ultimate Xperia hd with lockedBL
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It might be the rom
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whisper_ said:
Hey guys
I have question why my phone(arc s)
Keeps rebooting always when I open six guns
I just open it after cleaning memory
And suddenly every thing get very laggy
And after10 second reboot
Help plz
I am using ultimate Xperia hd with lockedBL
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Might be your phone's hardware is a little underpowered for the game. Single core, less than 512 MB of usable RAM, I'd be hardly surprised if some games didn't play.
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MarcSinger said:
Might be your phone's hardware is a little underpowered for the game. Single core, less than 512 MB of usable RAM, I'd be hardly surprised if some games didn't play.
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don't think so.
i allways got reboots while playing plague inc. on cm10, but when i played the same game on stock, everything was fine
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I remember when i played this game and suddenly a ground texture disappeared and i was walking on this weird infinite void under my feet. Its the most buggy game I've ever played and it cant even work for a half an hour without rebooting my phone.

Lag problem with custom rom and kernel

Hey guys a few days ago I installed Xperia NXT 2 r1 and Lupus GB kernel V10,but it has some very strange lag,i have to restart the phone several times so it run smoothly, even when I play a game (NFS Most Wanted for example) after a few races it starts to lag a lot and I have to restart the phone ,so it can run smoothly.I have installed facebook,messenger,viber,temple run,nfs,xperia Z and Droid DNA live wallpapers .Cpu settings 1.2GHz(max) 249GHz(min) vendor- ihave tried smartassV2 and lagfree,but the problem is still here.ZRam-60MB.Everything else Is OK.
n12k1 said:
Hey guys a few days ago I installed Xperia NXT 2 r1 and Lupus GB kernel V10,but it has some very strange lag,i have to restart the phone several times so it run smoothly, even when I play a game (NFS Most Wanted for example) after a few races it starts to lag a lot and I have to restart the phone ,so it can run smoothly.I have installed facebook,messenger,viber,temple run,nfs,xperia Z and Droid DNA live wallpapers .Cpu settings 1.2GHz(max) 249GHz(min) vendor- ihave tried smartassV2 and lagfree,but the problem is still here.ZRam-60MB.Everything else Is OK.
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Did u do all wipes before installing the rom???
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Im not very sure about that,i think i have but not very sure.Could the problem be because i have moved facebook app to sd card,because i think the problem starts when i enter fb app a then set it to the background.
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n12k1 said:
Im not very sure about that,i think i have but not very sure.Could the problem be because i have moved facebook app to sd card,because i think the problem starts when i enter fb app a then set it to the background.
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Well seen as u have zRam enabled u will have less ram. Along with FB which eats RAM and then playing games. Try disable zRam and see if problem persists that way if ram gets low FB will be killed.
But also u should always full wipe before flashing any ROM. Meaning wipe /system /data /cache and /dalvik-cache.
Hm I thought that zRam enlarges Ram memory, now I have disabled it and will try it that way,i have also moved Facebook back again to phone memory.
n12k1 said:
Im not very sure about that,i think i have but not very sure.Could the problem be because i have moved facebook app to sd card,because i think the problem starts when i enter fb app a then set it to the background.
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Try to remove it and see what happens!!!
But I think it couldn't be from that backup ur apps with titanium backup and reflash the rom
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raminta said:
Try to remove it and see what happens!!!
But I think it couldn't be from that backup ur apps with titanium backup and reflash the rom
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Today I moved the app to the SD card it seems that the lag in the launcher is less but still in games there's still lag,so tomorrow I'll flash the rom again by wiping everything to see if the problem still exists.And I have another question does really the adreno booster reduces gaming experience and it only helps in benchmark tests?
n12k1 said:
Today I moved the app to the SD card it seems that the lag in the launcher is less but still in games there's still lag,so tomorrow I'll flash the rom again by wiping everything to see if the problem still exists.And I have another question does really the adreno booster reduces gaming experience and it only helps in benchmark tests?
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It reduces some gaming experience and it improve ur benchmark very much
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I flashed the rom again and this time i did all wipes but the lag still exsits.Is it possible to be from the kernel- lupus v10?
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n12k1 said:
I flashed the rom again and this time i did all wipes but the lag still exsits.Is it possible to be from the kernel- lupus v10?
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V6 will give you less lag or use doomkernel until wedgess fixes v10
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I tried doom but the download link was broken.Can somebody give it?
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Try v7 go to my bane of speed thread, dl is at bottom of op its the best outage all kernels!
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