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HTC A/V Cable

Dear Thunderbolt Owners,
Please tell me that the USB video/audio cable works on the TB... this would strongly influence my decision on buying it.
Question if it does work:
Does this show everything not just audio/video like the crappy moto X I have?
I am sure many of us want to know this

The official video out cable I have for my old Incredible does NOT fit/work on my Thunderbolt.

I got to thinking about this after the thread in the gen discussion board, and really the AV cable shouldn't work anyway. It's an analog signal instead of a digital one. So I don't know why I thought it would work to begin with. I would like to see this USB to HDMI materialize for us. My luck it will never exist. But it is listed as a accessory, so hopefully they aren't referring to the DNLA adapter that HTC just released.

Maybe something like this...
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ECC1HU0BBEB-SCH-i500-Fascinate-Captivate/dp/B004H9XXZY

I don't know, sorry I need posts for downloading something special

If this was sold direct though amazon I would buy and test. I'm not willing to just throw away 50 in case it doesn't though.

USB to RCA would have been dreamy

lilsalmon said:
The official video out cable I have for my old Incredible does NOT fit/work on my Thunderbolt.
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They should fit, it's the same Micro-usb connector, now work it's another story.

Nope doesn't fit. Tried.
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As I stated before... it does NOT fit and it is not a standard micro USB.
The Dinc actually has contacts on the top back that make it a hybrid proprietary mix of micro USB and video out signals. I should know, when HTC took forever to release it I was attempting to build my own as were others on XDA using pinout diagrams.
-Lil'

I can only hope for your sakes they release one. I can tell you when I had my iPhone hooking it up in my car and viewing everything on the screen I have in there was amazing. Esp for navigation, music videos, or reading email. OH, and lets not forget geeky bragging rights.

I had my DINC setup that way too. I was actually just looking at the specs on the DNLA adapter HTC put out. I figured at worst I could hide that unit and use the HDMI and run it to all the screens in my Tahoe.

palomosan said:
They should fit, it's the same Micro-usb connector, now work it's another story.
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No they are different, the Inc has connectors in the to.of the USB for video. If u look at the Inc USB port it is oddly shaped
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Here is what may be a fix
Type the text below in google and you will get the link to the needed cable. I have not tried it. Please post if you have any experiences with this cable
HTC ADR6400 Thunderbolt Original SKN6377A Micro HDMI Video Cable
micro usb to hdmi for the TB

I really do hope we can hook up a micro to HDMI to the TB. Now that hulu is working on my TB I think I might cancel my TV and internet and just use my phone.

joshsun said:
Type the text below in google and you will get the link to the needed cable. I have not tried it. Please post if you have any experiences with this cable
HTC ADR6400 Thunderbolt Original SKN6377A Micro HDMI Video Cable
micro usb to hdmi for the TB
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Very interesting, I would like to know the outcome. Thanks for the post Joshsun.
Also if anyone else tries it and it works can you describe what comes up: E.g.: Homescreen, media hub, dlna media transfer screen, etc.....

I will buy that cable when I get paid Wednesday and see how it works, though it is made by Motorola.
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Hey guys that SKU for the cable is a Droid X HDMI cable. SKN6377A
Dont think it'll help us.

Yea after further review, don't waste your money. It is micro hdmi type D to hdmi. It will not work. We have standard micro usb ports.

I very much doubt this will work for our phones, but this is the cable you are looking for.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-HDMI-Cable-microUSB/dp/B004H9XXZY

Multifunction Adapter

Does anyone know if this adapter would work with the GN?
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Multifunction-Adapter-T-Mobile-Shadow/dp/B001QD3MQE/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header
I want to have the phone output audio while being simultaneously being charged.
I would love to have the official car dock, but it is nowhere to be found (yet).

No. It will not.
Why not just plug something into the headphone port and the power into the USB cable like you are supposed to do?

I'm looking for something simple. Just drop it on a dock and go.
IPhones have countless docks, my pre has the touchstone.
I suppose I could just connect through Bluetooth for audio and plug in a charging cable in the meantime until that GSM car dock comes out.

staticx57 said:
No. It will not.
Why not just plug something into the headphone port and the power into the USB cable like you are supposed to do?
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Why won't it work? I have been looking for something exactly like this to make a custom portrait desktop dock that has audio out. The problem is the headphone jack is on the bottom and covered when in this position... any suggestions on what I could use for this situation?
*edit* Looks like it isnt a micro usb so it definitely wouldnt work then...curious though, does anything like this exist that would work with gnex?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

There's no way for it to work on a Samsung phone because those old mini USB slots on those HTC phones are proprietary 11-pin ExtUSB ports. Normal USB mini/micro only has 5 pins. HTC wanted to be cool and add extra pins to the USB port so that they wouldn't have to add a headphone jack to the phone. To my understanding, this was unpopular because you had to buy extra hardware just to get a headset working.

can micro usb send audio out ?

For my in car solution, previously I used a brodit Active dock which you could plug an iphone cable into the bottom of, that cable I used previously for iphone was one iphone port in, but had an audio out as well as usb charge cable, so I was able to jack into my cars 3.5 Audio port and the other end into a usb cigarette port adapter, it was commonly referred to as a Y Cable.
I am looking to do similar from the Brodit Active HTC One X dock once its released, and ideally use one cable that plugs into the docks micro usb port (which the HTC One X plugs into in the dock).
So, a) does the micro usb port on the phone support sending the audio out ? and b) if so, does anyone know of a cable that will split out to an audio and usb end such as I described above..
Thanks for any help anyone can offer.
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to give some context, I used a cable like this one for the iphone and active brodit dock before..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Coope...s_Adapters&hash=item4d010007e2#ht_2628wt_1378
I cannot seem to find anything similar for micro usb.

mgdew said:
to give some context, I used a cable like this one for the iphone and active brodit dock before..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Coope...s_Adapters&hash=item4d010007e2#ht_2628wt_1378
I cannot seem to find anything similar for micro usb.
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It should be able to
http://www.expansys.com/expansys-usb-cradle-with-hdmi-out-for-htc-one-x-231980/
The USB does HDMI which carries audio. Someone with more knowledge will be along soon I imagine though, they'll be able to point you where you need to be!

thanks for the hdmi headsup.
Anyone else able to offer a solution ?

HDMI is digital though, so to use with a standard 3.5mm Aux you will need a digital to analogue converter. Assuming it cant switch to analogue... its a bit up in the air at the moment, need to wait for a few devices to hit the shops :/

All you need is-
Micro Sd to car adaptor for power.
3.5 jack to 3.5 from phone to stereos aux in.
You can call, use sat nav whilst listening to music.
Will mute music for ditections, phone call whateva!

You can also make a cable and connect them to the pins on the back that are used for a dock.
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Thanks for the replies. I already have two separate cables wires in for aux and for usb, but I wanted to try and have only one cable so I could literally attach one and not have to plug both in and out, hence the year cable idea of
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I just use bluetooth
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Samsung original OTG card reader.

Just got it for 15USD.
I've tested on GN.
Main function:
1. Standard USB port for USB drive/mouse/keyboard
2. TF(micro SD) socket
3. Standard SD socket
4. micro USB power in.

It's not original. It's just designed for Samsung compatible phones.

wilsonlam97 said:
It's not original. It's just designed for Samsung compatible phones.
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Frankly, you didn't see the brand on the box. Pleomax is a company in Samsung group, just like Anymode.

xactly wat i need. been looking fo this for a long time.
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where did u get this again? i really want this.

Guys, I have a question a little bit off topic here.
It is possible to use a keyboard with Gnex using an USB OTG adapter?
And if it is possible to connect the Gnex in the display using the HDMI adapter, while the keyboard is plugged through the OTG adapter. trying to make it easy: gnex plugged in HDMI adapter, HDMI to the display, in the connector that we usually plug the charger I will plug the OTG cable with the keyboard in it.
If this works the battery will run out fast as hell, but I don't know if is possible to do it.
Are you jelly? Sent from my jelly belly GNex

xiaocai said:
a original card reader just costs $15?I ever bought one for $20.can you give me the link of it?thanks.
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+1
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matika said:
Frankly, you didn't see the brand on the box. Pleomax is a company in Samsung group, just like Anymode.
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Oh ic. It still doesn't really make it Samsung original however. It's like saying a song by Chris Brown is made by General Electric because of his affiliations with Universal Music.
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wilsonlam97 said:
Oh ic. It still doesn't really make it Samsung original however. It's like saying a song by Chris Brown is made by General Electric because of his affiliations with Universal Music.
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Firstly your analogy is flawed and secondly, you're being pedantic.

Sinistr0 said:
Guys, I have a question a little bit off topic here.
It is possible to use a keyboard with Gnex using an USB OTG adapter?
And if it is possible to connect the Gnex in the display using the HDMI adapter, while the keyboard is plugged through the OTG adapter. trying to make it easy: gnex plugged in HDMI adapter, HDMI to the display, in the connector that we usually plug the charger I will plug the OTG cable with the keyboard in it.
If this works the battery will run out fast as hell, but I don't know if is possible to do it.
Are you jelly? Sent from my jelly belly GNex
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Yes it is possible to use any usb device via otg.
No you can not have HDMI adapter and OTG at the same time.
Bluetooth is your best bet. I got a logitech bluetooth keyboard and mouse made for tablets and have a nice case for the keyboard that turns into a stand for your tablet and phone. Also if you have bluetooth on your pc like i do, i use it for that too
Here is the keyboard I got: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Tabl...501&sr=8-1&keywords=logitech+android+keyboard
Mouse: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Tabl...501&sr=8-2&keywords=logitech+android+keyboard

Why did you post this without a link to where you got it? I don't see this card reader for sale anywhere when I searched for it.
These are my thoughts on OP.

Thanks man. I'm avoiding bluetooth stuff. Too many things to charge in the end of the day. So far I was able to connect a mouse and a keyboard to the gnex using the OTG cable and an USB hub. I'll lock for a workaround to this, maybe a USB display or something like that.
Are you jelly? Sent from my jelly belly GNex

Sinistr0 said:
Thanks man. I'm avoiding bluetooth stuff. Too many things to charge in the end of the day. So far I was able to connect a mouse and a keyboard to the gnex using the OTG cable and an USB hub. I'll lock for a workaround to this, maybe a USB display or something like that.
Are you jelly? Sent from my jelly belly GNex
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Good luck, I think a lot of people have been looking for a workaround but no dice.

Sinistr0 said:
Guys, I have a question a little bit off topic here.
It is possible to use a keyboard with Gnex using an USB OTG adapter?
And if it is possible to connect the Gnex in the display using the HDMI adapter, while the keyboard is plugged through the OTG adapter. trying to make it easy: gnex plugged in HDMI adapter, HDMI to the display, in the connector that we usually plug the charger I will plug the OTG cable with the keyboard in it.
If this works the battery will run out fast as hell, but I don't know if is possible to do it.
Are you jelly? Sent from my jelly belly GNex
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I have the same doubtful question with this guy. Just like the ninth poster has said, we can not have HDMI adapter and OTG working at the same time. What about someday there is an another HDMI output on the device ?

[Q] Motorola Lapdock & Note 2?

Just curious if anyone has gotten the keyboard and mouse working on a lapdock with the Note 2. The HDMI works perfectly, but the keyboard and mouse don't work. I don't know if it is possible, but it would be great if someone knows how to make this happen.
Here's a picture of my set up. Everything is connected so it *should* work. I'm thinking that it is a driver issue.
(The lapdock keyboard & mouse work great with Ubuntu 12.04, & Windows 7, & Raspberry Pi (Raspian), so I know that my connections are fine.)
Thanks!

Hmm, guess I'll be able to answer my own question after a bit of research. It seems that the Note 2 (like the S3) can't provide MHL & OTG at the same time.
Not sure if there is a way around this. I wonder if Samsung's SmartDock works, but I don't want to spend $100 to find out.

I'm increasingly interested in trying just this, smart dock + lapdock. Hard to imagine that it wouldn't work, but I wouldn't mind confirmation if anyone has tried it. The impressive low prices on lapdocks in the secondary market kinda offsets (and also kinda shames) the ridiculously overpriced smart dock.
I wonder if the lapdock's battery can provide as much power as the smart dock needs or if I'd have to have an external battery too.

I'm increasingly interested in trying just this, smart dock + lapdock. Hard to imagine that it wouldn't work, but I wouldn't mind confirmation if anyone has tried it. The impressive low prices on lapdocks in the secondary market kinda offsets (and also kinda shames) the ridiculously overpriced smart dock.
I wonder if the lapdock's battery can provide as much power as the smart dock needs or if I'd have to have an external battery too.
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the lap dock should provide 1 amp which is what the atrix needed and the chargers it came with. the s3 has a smart dock and it too only has 1 amp chargers...
plus I don't see the smart dock pulling more than 200mA it has to provide the s3 with at least 750 mA for the charge to survive mhl.
regardless amp drain in android devices is adaptive. even if the dock needs a full 800mA the phone will try to survive with the rest draining battery of course but working none the less just like trying to charge our 2A monster with a Bluetooth 150mA charger. it will try but at best slow down the discharge
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I don't know if an MHL adapter will supply both HDMI and OTG at the same time but I know the phone is capable of it because this is how the Samsung Smart Doc works. 3 USB ports with HDMI out.
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I got it working. I have a Raspberry Pi that connects to the lapdock perfectly so I picked up the overpriced Samsung SmartDock and used the same cords that I'm using with the Raspberry Pi and it works pretty well.
Here's the info:
http://rpidock.blogspot.com/2012/05/raspberry-pi-and-motorola-lapdock.html
Here's some apps that make the lapdock work better with the Note 2:
Screen Standby - Need Root for this one.
Set Orientation
External Keyboard Helper

wilbr said:
I got it working. I have a Raspberry Pi that connects to the lapdock perfectly so I picked up the overpriced Samsung SmartDock and used the same cords that I'm using with the Raspberry Pi and it works pretty well.
Here's the info:
http://rpidock.blogspot.com/2012/05/raspberry-pi-and-motorola-lapdock.html
Here's some apps that make the lapdock work better with the Note 2:
Screen Standby - Need Root for this one.
Set Orientation
External Keyboard Helper
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Hi I have got an S3 MHL(11pin) HDMI cable. I have tested HDMI & OTG simultaneously.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953061&page=7
It is working perfectly with my 24inch LED monitor and a USB hub containing 2 pen drives and one wireless keyboard & mouse
Now the next move i got atrix lapdock and try to connect the HDMI out from mobile to Lapdock (with necessary adopters) but i am getting only green screen.
Lapdock is working with other HDMI sources....
Any idea on how to get my note 2 HDMI working in my lapdock?...

shivela39 said:
Hi I have got an S3 MHL(11pin) HDMI cable. I have tested HDMI & OTG simultaneously.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953061&page=7
It is working perfectly with my 24inch LED monitor and a USB hub containing 2 pen drives and one wireless keyboard & mouse
Now the next move i got atrix lapdock and try to connect the HDMI out from mobile to Lapdock (with necessary adopters) but i am getting only green screen.
Lapdock is working with other HDMI sources....
Any idea on how to get my note 2 HDMI working in my lapdock?...
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I've never gotten a green screen so I have no idea. And, you already did the basic troubleshooting. Are you using the Smartdock or something different? If you aren't using the Smartdock, maybe pick one up to see if it works. If it doesn't fix the problem, you can always return the Smartdock.

wilbr said:
I've never gotten a green screen so I have no idea. And, you already did the basic troubleshooting. Are you using the Smartdock or something different? If you aren't using the Smartdock, maybe pick one up to see if it works. If it doesn't fix the problem, you can always return the Smartdock.
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Tested with note 1 & MHL. Result is same getting only green screen.
But working fine with TV/monitors....Seems to be struck there....
somebody help me....

shivela39 said:
Tested with note 1 & MHL. Result is same getting only green screen.
But working fine with TV/monitors....Seems to be struck there....
somebody help me....
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Based on what you are saying, it sounds like the issue is between your lapdock & MHL cable. Like I said in my previous post, I'd pick up a Samsung SmartDock and see if it works. Just make sure that yo buy from somewhere that you can easily return it in case it doesn't work.

wilbr said:
Based on what you are saying, it sounds like the issue is between your lapdock & MHL cable. Like I said in my previous post, I'd pick up a Samsung SmartDock and see if it works. Just make sure that yo buy from somewhere that you can easily return it in case it doesn't work.
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Dear wilbr,
Thanks for the reply.
Do you use the original samsung MHL cable?...
I am using Chinese version of MHL.
HDMI troubleshooting guide says the below....
The green screen problem could be due to HDCP non compliance or syncing problem..
anything to do with HDCP and chinese cable?...
I am trying to get an samsung official MHL or a smart dock to try out. (here in india smart dock is still not avaiable). My once route to get it is through china...

shivela39 said:
Dear wilbr,
Thanks for the reply.
Do you use the original samsung MHL cable?...
I am using Chinese version of MHL.
HDMI troubleshooting guide says the below....
The green screen problem could be due to HDCP non compliance or syncing problem..
anything to do with HDCP and chinese cable?...
I am trying to get an samsung official MHL or a smart dock to try out. (here in india smart dock is still not avaiable). My once route to get it is through china...
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I use the Samsung SmartDock. I was able to get the Lapdock to show the Note 2's screen when connected via HDMI with a Chinese MHL, but I couldn't get the keyboard/trackpad to work with it.

hi team,
today i have tested with original samsung cable with note 2 and S3. But still i am getting green screen only.
my lapdock is AT&T atrix 4g model... anything to do with it?.....
I have tested my set top box,LAPTOP and Notion ink adam..all are working but not with my note 2.
I have seen that note 2 is always use HDCP for HDMI...Will the lapdock support HDCP?...(in some thread i have seen it supports)
Team really need somebody's help....
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wilbr said:
I use the Samsung SmartDock. I was able to get the Lapdock to show the Note 2's screen when connected via HDMI with a Chinese MHL, but I couldn't get the keyboard/trackpad to work with it.
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Hi refer my link posted in my earlier reply... it is easy to get the OTG simultaneously with HDMI....
For me i have connected both HDMI and USB together with lap dock.
MY lapdock keyboard and mouse are working fine and i can see it with note 2 screen....
USB port is working fine with 2 pendrives attached......
The only problem is not able to get the screen in lap dock ....only green screen...

update....
Tried with S4. HDMI detected but blank screen.
When playing video once cable is connected S4 screen goes blank but still video is running but lapdock is blank....

Team,
I have updated Android 4.3 + rooted hoping that it should work with lapdock... Still no luck.. still getting green screen.
Any help or update?.
wilbr,
Whats your android version?
Is it rooted or stock rom?...

If you are using Aosp, mhl doesn't work with Aosp.

might solve your dilemma
might workatuoxun Multi-functional HDMI Connection Kit USB OTG SD TF Card Reader MHL to HDMI Adapter
I cant post a link to it so you'll have to Google it sorry
wilbr said:
Hmm, guess I'll be able to answer my own question after a bit of research. It seems that the Note 2 (like the S3) can't provide MHL & OTG at the same time.
Not sure if there is a way around this. I wonder if Samsung's SmartDock works, but I don't want to spend $100 to find out.
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I've already got a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. I'm gonna order a MicroUSB to HDMI adapter and go that route. It'll be cheaper and less to carry. When I travel I'll just be able to plug into the hotel TV and go wild!
There's a YouTube video of someone demonstrating it, just search YouTube for "Samsung Note 2 Mobile Desktop with a Bluetooth keyboard mouse"

shivela39 said:
Team,
I have updated Android 4.3 + rooted hoping that it should work with lapdock... Still no luck.. still getting green screen.
Any help or update?.
wilbr,
Whats your android version?
Is it rooted or stock rom?...
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i had a similar problem, its was a shotty solder job on the "Budget adapter" (HDMI PINS). i took it apart and cleaned it, works perfectly now.
Plug your phone in, WAIT 5 SECONDS, Then lift up.....If you still have a problem, push F11 on the Lapdock... that manual cycles the resolution modes...at least thats what the manual says....
As far as the USB key board goes, im currently working a solution.... you have to power the MHL THROUGH THE DOCKS usb port using a donated USB cable with the end cut, solder it in directly on the board of the adapter itself, then make a micro usb extension that has the power wires cut and D- D+ reversed... I have a motorola ATRIX and im looking at the board, it looks like they have been reversed....ill post up some pics if i find this to be true.
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Also, sorry to bring up and old post, but I have a reason to believe that the ZOOM bluetooth keyboard uses the same 30 pin connector thats inside the lapdock (connects everything together) all the connectors are the same, except on the ZOOM the other end is a BLUETOOTH module...this would solve the whole issue... im about to get one on ebay. Ill report back in a few days.
I WILL NOT LET THIS THING BEAT ME