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Android 4.2 IMPRESSIONS/THOUGHTS/REVIEW/OVERVIEW

After finally getting the update, I tried 4.2 for the first time. To be honest, I imagined 4.2 to be a needed update to the already amazing 4.1.2.
PERFORMANCE
Like some of the users have stated, there is a slight slow down in performance. After using 4.1, the drop in frame rates in 4.2 is more evident. Apps run slower, laggier, and less smooth. Not all apps though, just some. To name a few would be Apex Launcher, Lock Screen App, Whatsapp (only slightly) and a few others. This bugs me. Project Butter? I definitely do not feel that its faster now despite what people have said.
STABILITY
I don't know how many apps I couldn't run because they forced close. And I'm suspecting its due to this 4.2 update. So now I'm patiently waiting for the updates to hopefully solve the problem.
NEW FEATURES
- Lock screen
I really dislike the new lock screen. It just looks ugly to me. The fonts they used in 4.1 was already great. Why change it to this? Google Now has been placed down at the bottom now, making it slower to access it in my opinion. There were a few times where the phone couldn't detect my swipes - maybe it could just be my fault for not hitting the right place). The idea of having widgets on the lock screen is well...rather niche. There isn't even a lot of widgets that can be added on to the lock screen unless I have to reinstall all my apps that I installed before the update. The worst thing about is, it lags. Even on the lock screen.
- Quick settings menu
I don't really find this helpful. Here's why. I already have an app called 'Notification Toggle' that basically adds toggles in my notification bar. Its minimal, quick and fast. I have no problem with Google adding their own version. Its just that in doing that, they have gotten rid of the settings button at the main notification drawer (one finger pull for notifications). Their own toggles are alright. I'm OK with the look of it, but 5 toggles just isn't enough for me (the others are just shortcuts e.g. settings, profile, battery). Hope Google puts back their settings button like in 4.1 or just improve on their toggles.
- Photosphere
One of the main updates in 4.2. I do like the software and layout behind it. Its really well thought out and its definitely an improvement from 4.1.I can access things faster, capture pictures faster and do photosphere - which is googles new 360 panorama that is similar to Google maps Street View. It isn't exactly perfect but I'm guessing its also the users part to take a well-stitched photosphere.
- Keyboard
This is probably the part where I won't complain. This keyboard is the keyboard I've been waiting for. After using Sense 4's keyboard with 'Swype' gestures, I couldn't find any keyboard that could outmatch it. Everything was perfect for me with that keyboard. But now finally I can say that I have found a better one. Not only aesthetically but also functionally. I type faster and smarter now. Google has done a great job with the prediction engine. Almost 90% of the time I'll get the word I want. And even if I don't, the word will more than likely to appear next to the main predicted word. But I believe that the upcoming updates will improve on that.
CONCLUSION
And no, if you're wondering I'm no apple guy. I prefer Android over iOS. These tiny little things just tick me off sometimes. Especially when it comes to performance issues. Most probably either jumping back to 4.1 or flashing another ROM. I think the only thing I wanted from this update was the 'new' keyboard and probably photosphere. I could've just got it separately and not complain. But anyway, that's my thoughts on 4.2. Quite disappointed as you can tell. If you're thinking of updating, think again before you do.
UPDATE: Replaced lock screen with Widget Locker. One problem down. Weird, but it seems a tad faster now for some reason. Battery life is about the same or maybe a little worse.
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I applied the OTA as soon as I was presented to it, and I have to say that something must have gone TERRIBLY wrong! I had an extremely fast and responsive device, now my gnex is really unusable. Slow, hanging, lags is not the proper word, we are talking about geological eras, here! Instead of going back to stock, I want to test some custom roms (I have to reinstall anyway, so what the heck... I will seize the occasion) and see what could have happened, but I am really desperate. I am trying to understand if I really have to go back to 4.1.2...

I did ota and dont have any sort of lag(camera orientation only), i have over a 100 apps installed and none of them have force closed or slowed down
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guys.. Looks like u r Talking about another phone.
Have you tried a clean update?
I flashed takju 4.2 and everything is Better, my phone has only one issue: no december on peoples APP.. Even camera has Better features..OK there is no shortcut to see the pics...but man!!! Really!!! try a fresh start with stock 4.2
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Yes, that is what I have to do.
I have resistances to doing a full reset because I have made a backup of the SD, but I am happier if my data stay where they are!
For the moment, I will experiment with a couple of ROMs, so I can wipe everything but the SD via recovery.

I'm mostly disappointed with 4.2. A few nice additions I guess: lock screen widgets though it's more or less personal preference, native swipe texting and photosphere. I also like the foundation for multi-users. In the future I think that will be a big thing.
But there are too many downsides. Performance lag compared to 4.1.2 (yes, even after clean install) and my issue with my cheek still pressing things despite the proximity sensor having shut off the screen (I've pressed random numbers and even managed to hang up on people during calls because of it). These are the major things bothering me.
I'll probably be downgrading to 4.1.2 in a few days.

ejpenha said:
guys.. Looks like u r Talking about another phone.
Have you tried a clean update?
I flashed takju 4.2 and everything is Better, my phone has only one issue: no december on peoples APP.. Even camera has Better features..OK there is no shortcut to see the pics...but man!!! Really!!! try a fresh start with stock 4.2
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I think the bugs are because something is wrong with the OTA update itself.
I did a takju factory image flash with a clean storage and no performance issues or bugs at all (Except december), but when a friend of mine did the OTA he got most of the bugs people complain about.
Advice: wipe your phone clean and flash the factory image or wait for 4.2.1

I'm quite happy with 4.2
The lock screen is the matter of preference, I like to have the access to the camera when using PIN or gesture lock. In the future I see having some news or weather widget there but definitely not gmail or messaging. I'd quickly regret that if my phone would get lost or stolen.
I love swype functionality. It's a nice blend between two keyboards and it doesn't lag.
Photosphere is big, with some patience you can get amazing results. Try using some kind of tripod for best results.
Gmail pinch to zoom is the long awaited update and works great but also thanks to scaling your emails you can now scroll between emails more easily.
There are parts where the device feels more laggy, less responsive (camera orientation, multi task list) but these will hopefully be fixed with the future updates. And knowing there is no December in people app Google is probably working full speed to bring that 4.2.1 to us
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I agree with you on most post points.
What I really wanted to say though is that I'm really impressed that you wrote all this on your phone!

Nebucatnetzer said:
I agree with you on most post points.
What I really wanted to say though is that I'm really impressed that you wrote all this on your phone!
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Why? Im curious
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My only complain is the look of 4.2. The lock screen is ugly, the digital clock, bold hours makes no sense!
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Nebucatnetzer said:
I agree with you on most post points.
What I really wanted to say though is that I'm really impressed that you wrote all this on your phone!
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What the feeling of being annoyed can do to you these days...
ejpenha said:
guys.. Looks like u r Talking about another phone.
Have you tried a clean update?
I flashed takju 4.2 and everything is Better, my phone has only one issue: no december on peoples APP.. Even camera has Better features..OK there is no shortcut to see the pics...but man!!! Really!!! try a fresh start with stock 4.2
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I did a stock OTA update. And have around a little less than 200 apps in total.
Ma7moud90 said:
I think the bugs are because something is wrong with the OTA update itself.
I did a takju factory image flash with a clean storage and no performance issues or bugs at all (Except december), but when a friend of mine did the OTA he got most of the bugs people complain about.
Advice: wipe your phone clean and flash the factory image or wait for 4.2.1
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Maybe it's cos mines the yakju variant.
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I installed the OTA, and it slowed the phone down. Then I wiped the device clean and flashed the 4.2 image, it was still the same. Google messed up with this one.
Nexus is the way I like it.

No issues here....love the new update
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What bugs me is the lower volume in Google music -.- I can't hear anything -.- I hope they fix this sh*t ASAP... The gnex is quiet in general but now its annoying -.-
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ronnie_1712 said:
I installed the OTA, and it slowed the phone down. Then I wiped the device clean and flashed the 4.2 image, it was still the same. Google messed up with this one.
Nexus is the way I like it.
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Try flashing a costum kernel, could help out a lot. I prefer Franco Kernel.
amdkalban said:
My only complain is the look of 4.2. The lock screen is ugly, the digital clock, bold hours makes no sense!
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I was having the same issues, when I installed it, but now I flashed a ROM and they changed these things. Try it yourself!

One more thing: white is really white on 4.2
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One annoying thing, that you haven't mentioned, is that I'm able to change the notification (calls, texts, etc) volume from the lock screen.
Edit: As soon as I get enough time, I'll downgrade to 4.1.2 again.
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4.2 made for nexus 4 which is quadcore device,so is it feel any different in gnex with dualcore??

I feel no difference between the two performance/battery wise. No dramas with it or whatsoever. I see no reason why not to upgrade to 4.2 but that's just me

For those having unresponsive touch screens with 4.2.1 (as opposed to SODs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x92uTTdxglI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
As soon as the latest firmware hit I've tried all the roms and they all would end up with a unresponsive touch screen. No matter what kernel and rom, I'd have to do a battery pull, it could be less than an hour or around two days of uptime. It was weird because you can see PGM works fine. After countless of lock ups, frustrated, I just mashed all my fingers on the screen and it came back to life.
I know a few of you in the development forum are coming up with this issue, hopefully it works for you.

sman789 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x92uTTdxglI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
As soon as the latest firmware hit I've tried all the roms and they all would end up with a unresponsive touch screen. No matter what kernel and rom, I'd have to do a battery pull, it could be less than an hour or around two days of uptime. It was weird because you can see PGM works fine. After countless of lock ups, frustrated, I just mashed all my fingers on the screen and it came back to life.
I know a few of you in the development forum are coming up with this issue, hopefully it works for you.
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Its a pgm issue man. Stop using it like I did and the problem is solved.
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I thought that too but it still happened numerous times without it installed.
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sman789 said:
I thought that too but it still happened numerous times without it installed.
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Bull****... I've had the exact same problem to the T man. If its not PGM then its another app. This is NOT an issue with android itself.
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I had something similar only difference was that I had a delay in touch response, found the problem to be nova launcher switched to Holo and it went away.
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Never had..maybe its because ur gnext is full of **** apps that not support android 4.2
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you see the status bar and the open apps in background?
seriously, no miracle that he has a stucked nexus...

Wow, way to take me as an idiot. Real friendly environment here. It's actually a documented issue and you'll see a few do have it. Some have related it to the mhz setting for screen off but that didn't fix it for everyone.
darkarvan said:
you see the status bar and the open apps in background?
seriously, no miracle that he has a stucked nexus...
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So the greatness of Android 4.0+ handling memory well with backgrounded apps is now poopoo? C'mon darkavan, I'm not even talking about lag or slowness, the lockscreen (or as in the video, I bypassed the security lock, it didn't matter either way) would not register any touches no matter how long the screen was on.

Stop using pgm!!!!!!
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yeah you are running way too much, these things take time to load. first step to troubleshooting is start off fresh with no apps (likely being caused by one of them) and see how it works.
and watching you in the video is a lot like how my parents react. When something stalls (click click clickity click click) well these mashing your fingers all over the screen get recorded. thus adding to the lag.

Alright, I give up. It didn't matter what rom, kernel, how many apps were installed. It's happened to me on multiple fresh installs without a ton of apps or even PGM. This has been an issue since 4.2.1 first came out. So I went on a tear going through multiple ROMs trying to nail down if that was the issue.
But whatever, I'm stupid and clearly have no clue what I'm doing.
(I'm actully not a novice [even if the video shows me acting like one] if you haven't picked up on my sarcasm. 4.1 and 4.2 we're fantastic as well as 4.2.1 other than this issue)

sman789 said:
Alright, I give up. It didn't matter what rom, kernel, how many apps were installed. It's happened to me on multiple fresh installs without a ton of apps or even PGM. This has been an issue since 4.2.1 first came out. So I went on a tear going through multiple ROMs trying to nail down if that was the issue.
But whatever, I'm stupid and clearly have no clue what I'm doing.
(I'm actully not a novice [even if the video shows me acting like one] if you haven't picked up on my sarcasm. 4.1 and 4.2 we're fantastic as well as 4.2.1 other than this issue)
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Have you tried a bare bones stock google image? People run in to all sorts of odd issues when mixing and matching these custom roms and kernels. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - the stock google image is the best for stability.
The reason we don't beleive you is that you are literally the FIRST one to report this issue. It's an issue with PGM, sure, but not without it. There have been odd sleep of deaths reported, but nothing like this.
If the hardware on your device is in good condition there should be no issues here.
Install the factory image from Google, do NOT install any apps for a week, then report back here with your results.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1776538 may be ?
you can check, in settings->developper option enable show CPU usage. it will over lay a top like output on your screen : check the blue bar (top right corner) if it's huge you fell vivtime to the same bug mentioned in the link

The 4.1.2 version is far better than the current 4.2.1 on the gnex , dunno about other devices shipping with JB on board (Nexus4)...i had used PGM on 4.1.2 and my nexus never showed a problem except the settings for PGM would be going missing and a reboot would fix the job temporarily , currently i had noticed many flaws in the 4.2.1 version that incl.s screen off delay , RAMDISK compatibilty issues (Causing SoD's +wakelocks maybe these are from the kernel) & we have to bear these small issues till we have a newer version of android , Android slows down while it installs an app since the vanilla version itself .
and for the most stable and dependable setup try Rasbeanjelly + Lean kernel these are the closest to stock with a few tweaks & patches :good: .

Ashtrix said:
The 4.1.2 version is far better than the current 4.2.1 on the gnex , dunno about other devices shipping with JB on board (Nexus4)...i had used PGM on 4.1.2 and my nexus never showed a problem except the settings for PGM would be going missing and a reboot would fix the job temporarily , currently i had noticed many flaws in the 4.2.1 version that incl.s screen off delay , RAMDISK compatibilty issues (Causing SoD's +wakelocks maybe these are from the kernel) & we have to bear these small issues till we have a newer version of android , Android slows down while it installs an app since the vanilla version itself .
and for the most stable and dependable setup try Rasbeanjelly + Lean kernel these are the closest to stock with a few tweaks & patches :good: .
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No relevant facts, no concrete evidence.. pure heresay...
Stick with a stock google image for the time being. Most likely if you go with a 3rd party rom/kernel combination it'll introduce some other strange bug along the side.

akira02rex said:
No relevant facts, no concrete evidence.. pure heresay...
Stick with a stock google image for the time being. Most likely if you go with a 3rd party rom/kernel combination it'll introduce some other strange bug along the side.
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Stock 4.2 is definitely more buggy than cm10 stable, cm 10.1 nightlies, and many other 4.2 ROMs. 4.2 is probably one of the buggiest releases ever. There are random reboots on several devices and many other bugs throughout the os.
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It's the problem of PGM. Last time I also experience that. The latest version of PGM should solved it.
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Woohoo CM10.1 nightly builds up !

Get em at http://get.cm/?device=p930
https://plus.google.com/u/0/117962666888533781522/posts/JCpweUi3a1h
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notzippy said:
Get em at http://get.cm/?device=p930
https://plus.google.com/u/0/117962666888533781522/posts/JCpweUi3a1h
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You beat me to it! I just saw on twitter! lol

I left my good ole Nitro at home when I got the N4 for Christmas. I'm curious for reports on the performance and stability of this rom. CM10 never really got to where it needed to be imho.

any word on the stability of the 10.1 nightly?

OMG! Just checked, thank you very much, Ricardo Queirera.

yyyyeeeaaaaahhhhh !!!!! at last !! testing this out when i get home ! will report back later ! its like XMAX all over again :good::laugh:

I installed it, seems pretty smooth. So far, it's great. I'll be hammering it throughout the day and see what I can break.

i havne't used CM's new method of updating from inside about phone, is it working well or should i stick with booting into CWM and do it the old way. If it is working well, what is the proper procedure for updating through about phone menu on CM 10 -- > 10.1

@KronicSkillz,
At the very least, I believe it'd be prudent to wipe /system and flash the newest 4.2 gapps (if you had the 4.1 gapps installed before). To be honest, though, it might be best just to back up all your app data in TiBu and do a factory reset to make sure there's no weird bugs. I've never tried upgrading from CM10 straight to CM10.1, so I couldn't tell you if you'd experience any issues. You should also have the most recent version of CWM installed because there was a point in time where it didn't play well with 4.2 (at least on the Nexus). I'm not sure if the TWRP that was kanged for the Nitro ever got up to 4.2 support or not.
Once you've gotten on CM10.1, though, the nightly updates through cmupdater are nice, but Cyandelta (available on Play Store) is better imho because it only downloads about a 10mb delta and merges it with the previous nightly's install zip instead of downloading the whole 140mb zip every day.

Is it just me or are we missing the developer options in the settings? Otherwise... This has been running 100% smoothly for the past 2 hours for me!
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Malnilion said:
@KronicSkillz,
At the very least, I believe it'd be prudent to wipe /system and flash the newest 4.2 gapps (if you had the 4.1 gapps installed before). To be honest, though, it might be best just to back up all your app data in TiBu and do a factory reset to make sure there's no weird bugs. I've never tried upgrading from CM10 straight to CM10.1, so I couldn't tell you if you'd experience any issues. You should also have the most recent version of CWM installed because there was a point in time where it didn't play well with 4.2 (at least on the Nexus). I'm not sure if the TWRP that was kanged for the Nitro ever got up to 4.2 support or not.
Once you've gotten on CM10.1, though, the nightly updates through cmupdater are nice, but Cyandelta (available on Play Store) is better imho because it only downloads about a 10mb delta and merges it with the previous nightly's install zip instead of downloading the whole 140mb zip every day.
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Gogeta5026 said:
Is it just me or are we missing the developer options in the settings? Otherwise... This has been running 100% smoothly for the past 2 hours for me!
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to enable developper options in 10.1, go to about phone and tap the build version till it says developper options enabled, As for the proper way to install, wipe data, wipe cache, dalvik and system ... flash 10.1 and enjoy
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Edit, sorry, this comment said the same thing the post just above said

gotta say this babys pretty fast considering its the 1st nighlty build, love the drawer and homescreens transition options, very smooth. Its still missing some cool features tho (will come in next builds, well hope so..) like the lockscreen widgets and the photosphere feature for the camera that lets you take 360 degree pictures ... gotta say the keyboard is a little laggy in my case, i used to have the 4.2 keyboard on my 4.1 rom and it would run way smoother, oh well its the 1st build after all!
EDIT: Just found out the lockscreen widget are there, just figured out that you need to swipe to your left or your right on the edge of the screen on the lockscreen, awesome ! (feel a little nub i didnt find that out before)
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I don't know about lockscreen widgets, but I know for a fact that photosphere isn't part of AOSP. Therefore, there's no way to really run it on a non-nexus. It's the same with picasa sync in gallery. As far as I know, lockscreen widgets are part of AOSP and there shouldn't be any issues, but I don't have my Nitro to confirm.

Malnilion said:
I don't know about lockscreen widgets, but I know for a fact that photosphere isn't part of AOSP. Therefore, there's no way to really run it on a non-nexus. It's the same with picasa sync in gallery. As far as I know, lockscreen widgets are part of AOSP and there shouldn't be any issues, but I don't have my Nitro to confirm.
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well i know for a fact photosphere works on some device even under cm10 with 4.2 camera flashed by changing a parameter in the build.so so the rom thinks you re using a nexus and the option shows up. That being said, im confident we ll eventually be able to use this feature. :fingerscrossed:
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i have verified with a cyanogenmod team member that it is recommended to boot into CWM manually to install new 10.x rom installs. They said once 10.1 is installed then it's safe to use the CM updater in phone for nightlies but the first 10.0x > 10.1 should be done manually.

That's an excellent news!! Unlike d*m* s*h*t LG, CM never leave us behind. Hopefully 10.1 will come with a stable kernel, instead of that crappy one as with 10

I noticed no option for Photosphere...will it flash over and work if we flash another 4.2.1 camera/gallery? Anyone try this yet? I've been running from a clean install without hitches for a few hours so I'm kinda hesitant and figured I'd see if anyone tried before I do. If not, I'll probably do a backup and give it a shot and see in the morning.

hmm, on your phones guys, camera works? on my doesn't opening, i'm using another from play store...

Have you noticed...

Everyone wants to unlock their bootloader so they can run a custom ROM, the supposed purpose being to improve performance and gain new features. But then, once they get the new ROM on there, they keep posting about all the problems they are having, and how this, that or the other doesn't work as well as stock. After goofing with every, and I mean EVERY ROM available for the Razr M, IMHO there's absolutely no reason to use a custom ROM if you are expecting "like stock" performance. It's fun, it's addicting, it can get crazy sometimes, but don't expect it to ever be "Final". More than likely, it will be abandoned the moment a new phone or Android version comes along, and you'll be left with all those unsolved FCs and "almost works" features left hanging. Sad, really.
And then there's the whole "let's take the stock ROM from some other phone entirely and try to make it work on our phone" thing. I totally don't get that. If you like the Necco Choco-Android-o-rama's OS so well, why not just buy that phone instead? I'm just sayin'...
Rooting? That's totally different. I don't know what they do in other countries for bloatware, but Verizon certainly loads up some stinker software here in the US. Tell me, unless you're really into that sort of thing, why would the average shmoe care about Zappos? I certainly don't! And, if I wanted an app for NFL football, I'm perfectly capable of picking one from Google Play, yeah? Same with all the Amazon shtuff. Yeah I get it, advertising helps cover manufacturing costs, and all that jazz. Sure they do it to every new PC from Brand Name X too, but at least you can uninstall it. So rooting is sort of revenge for hogging my limited storage space and then limiting my ability to do anything about it.
And since I'm on this rant anyway, please... PLEASE!!! No more of this "Let's see if we can make our Android look like an iPhone" crap. Or worse, "Windows 8 Phone" crap! - Ewww! That's like taking a Jaguar and trying to make it look like a Ford Pinto... you might manage it, but who the heck would want it?
This rant has been a Public Service Announcement. The thoughts and views expressed herein are not to be considered... period. :silly:

You said it!
I linked to this from my restore where I have a commentary section.

I totally agree. Don't flash ROMs if your going to complain. Its one thing to report to the devs and quite another to ***** about it. And good on ya for the entire rant.
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I really hope the motox stock can be ported.
It would be a big event if he & others did it.
I thank them on each post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2412427

I originally rooted and unlocked my bootloader on this phone because of the screen shake issue that a Motorola introduced in an update if that didn't happen I may not of rooted the phone its stock ROM has such a good layout its no wonder so many complain. I however knew what I was getting into. Rule of thumb to new flashers backups are your friend and don't piss off the developers.

I like stock... de-bloat it and its good to go... just wish I could find something to mod the navi bar... remove the recent apps button replace it with the menu button and change color of it...
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well, the main reason why folks are not as excited about the new ROMs, is b/c there are not any ground-breaking features on the 4.2.2 or 4.3 operating systems. When I got my first android, I had Froyo. Folks were dying to get to Gingerbread in order to vastly increase performance/battery life.
the deal with Jelly Bean, is that the upgrade from stock 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 or 4.3 is minimal at best - and the changes are mostly aesthetics (although, I read that 4.3 has better bluetooth connectivity). but mostly, 4.2.2/4.3 are primarily geared towards tablets.
the race is on now to see what KitKat can bring to current phone users.
in terms of improvements, just as radorix said, these custom ROMs eliminated the shakes that I was getting on 4.1.2. so for me, while that was not a huge deal, it's enough for me to go custom.
personally, I like the tiles layout of 4.2.2 as well as the AOKP customization, so I'll stick with that for now given that my battery life/performance is stock-like.

*claps* You said it. The Razr M has actually been the first Android phone I owned where I've kept the stock ROM. I think it does fine with 4.1.2 atm, and if I really wanted a change I'd probably just theme it.

The only thing that matters to me is stability and speed. I like a fast phone and I like to o/c, push the phone. I like to test things and try to understand its problems rather than build myself because I don't have the time. If I can find the right medium between speed and stability it becomes my dd, naturally. But stock was built for a reason and every now and then I go back to 4.1.2 because I miss some of the features. Like the far left quick settings menu and Circle Clock. Why have to find a work around to add all these features and fixes to a reimagined custom OS that causes more problems when its already working? We wouldn't have anything to work with if we didn't have the source to start at!

Couldn't agree more. I've had 9 different android devices in the past 4 years. Only ones I haven't rooted are my Sony tablet s (original, don't even get me started with their abandonment of this thing, hey let's leave bugs, make a seemingly unlockable boot loader, not share any code, abandon it after realizing all the bugs exist, then support everything we make after it) and my original nexus 7. I too came back to a stock debloated deodexed ROM for the RAZR M.
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JPHoller said:
Couldn't agree more. I've had 9 different android devices in the past 4 years. Only ones I haven't rooted are my Sony tablet s (original, don't even get me started with their abandonment of this thing, hey let's leave bugs, make a seemingly unlockable boot loader, not share any code, abandon it after realizing all the bugs exist, then support everything we make after it) and my original nexus 7. I too came back to a stock debloated deodexed ROM for the RAZR M.
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Lol. Not the only Sammy device they've dropped. Heard of the Galaxy Player 4.2?
Oh and ezknives, you do realize the menu button is completely redundant right? Considering it pops up if needed and isn't even supported/required for Holo apps
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sloosecannon said:
Lol. Not the only Sammy device they've dropped. Heard of the Galaxy Player 4.2?
Oh and ezknives, you do realize the menu button is completely redundant right? Considering it pops up if needed and isn't even supported/required for Holo apps
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Not for me... with-in various apps it does not... when on different ROMs and I removed the multitasking feature and replaced it with a menu key I was able to utilize features that was other wise inaccessible... like deleting messages in Facebook app for instance... that cannot be done without a menu button or opening your browser and requesting the desktop site... I just need my menu key its never there when I need it...and I don't know what halo apps are nor use it I don't believe...
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Not for me... with-in various apps it does not... when on different ROMs and I removed the multitasking feature and replaced it with a menu key I was able to utilize features that was other wise inaccessible... like deleting messages in Facebook app for instance... that cannot be done without a menu button or opening your browser and requesting the desktop site... I just need my menu key its never there when I need it...and I don't know what halo apps are nor use it I don't believe...
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Holo means apps designed for android 4.0+.
It's the ICS+ ui style. There should be a way to access the menu without a dedicated button - either built-in or by telling the system it's a legacy app that needs the settings button to appear
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netizenmt said:
Everyone wants to unlock their bootloader so they can run a custom ROM, the supposed purpose being to improve performance and gain new features. But then, once they get the new ROM on there, they keep posting about all the problems they are having, and how this, that or the other doesn't work as well as stock. After goofing with every, and I mean EVERY ROM available for the Razr M, IMHO there's absolutely no reason to use a custom ROM if you are expecting "like stock" performance. It's fun, it's addicting, it can get crazy sometimes, but don't expect it to ever be "Final". More than likely, it will be abandoned the moment a new phone or Android version comes along, and you'll be left with all those unsolved FCs and "almost works" features left hanging. Sad, really.
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Meh. I disagree. I've been running CM since it went official and I haven't had any complaints. I experience much-better-than-stock performance and battery life, plus it is way more customizable. I love it!

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Meh. I disagree. I've been running CM since it went official and I haven't had any complaints. I experience much-better-than-stock performance and battery life, plus it is way more customizable. I love it!
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I just tried it again. Froze on reboot, wouldn't let me into recovery, same BS as all the 4.3 versions. And I wrote the book, well thread, on how to install it, so yeah I wiped etc.
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i'm enjoying better than stock performance on the stable 4.2.2 branch, and i built a custom kernel for CM10.1 for better performance. I tried the 'stock' life and its boring lol. The custom ROM features and better performance are what makes it worth it in my view. 4.3 will be even better as work is continually being done on it, and it hasn't been out that long. Also, I think we need to give appreciation to the devs for giving us options as far as what we can run on this phone compared to being stuck with only one choice.

CM is getting good. Recently the "display freezing" issue got fixed, also more fixes for cardock audio and wifi. It simply takes a while to get it all done properly (with that what's left is SIM I/O and HDR (works with Moto X camera application)).
@netizenmt: Booting to recovery is not affected by the ROM you have installed, so you screwed up the installation at some point.

Skrilax_CZ said:
CM is getting good. Recently the "display freezing" issue got fixed, also more fixes for cardock audio and wifi. It simply takes a while to get it all done properly (with that what's left is SIM I/O and HDR (works with Moto X camera application)).
@netizenmt: Booting to recovery is not affected by the ROM you have installed, so you screwed up the installation at some point.
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Would you offer a build for a Bluetooth phone user that has the SD swap working?
One that might quiet this thread?

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I just tried it again. Froze on reboot, wouldn't let me into recovery, same BS as all the 4.3 versions. And I wrote the book, well thread, on how to install it, so yeah I wiped etc.
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There are a few tricks to getting 4.3 installed and running but it will never happen if u just quite and go back to stock before u get it up and running correctly. I had a terrible time getting 4.3 to boot, keyboard forcing close, stability etc but I figured all that out and wouldn't think of going back to stock. The amount and way if partions the internal drive alone will keep me from ever going back to stock.
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There are a few tricks to getting 4.3 installed and running but it will never happen if u just quite and go back to stock before u get it up and running correctly. I had a terrible time getting 4.3 to boot, keyboard forcing close, stability etc but I figured all that out and wouldn't think of going back to stock. The amount and way if partions the internal drive alone will keep me from ever going back to stock.
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You actually just made my whole point.
While it's cool you had time, patience, skill and effort to resolve your issues with 4.3, that's not the point of this thread. So do I. The point is, if you think you're going to slap one of these ROMs on and everything is going to work like stock, forget it. If that's what someone expects, they should stick to stock.
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Finishing tid-bits then uploading, will need feedback please be patient
The pictures are images from my phone I took a while back; this is clearly not verizon :x

Another ROM, nice.
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Been a while
I havent Use MIUI since my epic days!! nice to see it back.... is there any plans in upgrading this to 4.3??

Mr_Jay_jay said:
I havent Use MIUI since my epic days!! nice to see it back.... is there any plans in upgrading this to 4.3??
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I believe 4.3 and 4.4 get MiCode releases at the same time.
I'll just do 4.4 when it's available

Nice! Been waiting for this!
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Anyone have the apk for I can install gapps? Thanks
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xda23 said:
Anyone have the apk for I can install gapps? Thanks
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Look in the 'Market App' and use the G-apps installer present, it is also on the MIUI forums

Not being able to turn off the nav bar is a deal breaker for me. Liked the rom, but no need for the nav bar on the S4.
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Lochman79 said:
Not being able to turn off the nav bar is a deal breaker for me. Liked the rom, but no need for the nav bar on the S4.
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This is just an early alpha, a test to see if the frameworks will run correctly.
The nav-keys are there in-case HW keys are not functional so feedback can still be given and they can be disabled by removing:
qemu.hw.mainkeys=0
in build.prop, this text entry turns the on-screen softkeys on and removing it will disable them
Edit: the next version-up will be far more 'complete' this was just built today on a CM10.1 base that was just built today :x

No more updates?

Google Account
Cannot find a way to add Google Account. Only offers Exchange, MI Cloud, Mail??????
I was able to setup Google in Browser with my GMail account, but......
And when I try to start playstore after installing the apk,, it starts then goes back to the icon. I think because it needs the Google account info first.
I do have all the other recommendations in FAQ working, including root, etc.
FIXED: http://en.miui.com/thread-3998-1-1.html
Go to this page. Create an account to allow download of the Google apps installer. Make sure you enable all of the settings including ok to adding Google framework. After doing all of this you will see a slew of Google downloads including the playstore app. My mistake was locating an apk file and installing standalone. That will not work. I uninstalled that APK and used the link I show. Then it works

Docmjldds said:
Cannot find a way to add Google Account. Only offers Exchange, MI Cloud, Mail??????
I was able to setup Google in Browser with my GMail account, but......
And when I try to start playstore after installing the apk,, it starts then goes back to the icon. I think because it needs the Google account info first.
I do have all the other recommendations in FAQ working, including root, etc.
FIXED: http://en.miui.com/thread-3998-1-1.html
Go to this page. Create an account to allow download of the Google apps installer. Make sure you enable all of the settings including ok to adding Google framework. After doing all of this you will see a slew of Google downloads including the playstore app. My mistake was locating an apk file and installing standalone. That will not work. I uninstalled that APK and used the link I show. Then it works
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Go to the miui market look for gapps and theres a app I think its the second one then install it open inside is the different gapps download flash in recovery restart there
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Truballa4real7 said:
Go to the miui market look for gapps and theres a app I think its the second one then install it open inside is the different gapps download flash in recovery restart there
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I am an old time MIUI user back in my Nexus One days when I left IPhone for my first Android. Coolest MIUI stuff is the ultimate amount of themes out there. It does take a lot of extra effort in customizing the way you like a setup, but I find MIUI so refreshing compared to the typical stuff available. I actually find this really responsive including consistent 32Mps download speeds speedtest.net in my home here in Las Vegas. To bad more developers here aren't into working with MIUI. Even though it's still using 4.2.x, everything I need works, including Samsung WatchOn that was posted here on another ROM as a standalone recovery installation with a Kit Kat 4.4.x ROM.
Have you tried the full latest MIUI download for the I9505. Been trying to download that for the last three days. REALLY slow site
Miss the days when there were those English packs that pretty much weeded a lot of the Chinese stuff out, but I can live with that too :good:
Edit: Just saw your join date here same as me...Jan 2010 and you also had the Nexus One. Probably ran into some time or another back in those olden days if I did a search here......
PPS...not much traffic so I am taking a little libery in thread drift too

Docmjldds said:
I am an old time MIUI user back in my Nexus One days when I left IPhone for my first Android. Coolest MIUI stuff is the ultimate amount of themes out there. It does take a lot of extra effort in customizing the way you like a setup, but I find MIUI so refreshing compared to the typical stuff available. I actually find this really responsive including consistent 32Mps download speeds speedtest.net in my home here in Las Vegas. To bad more developers here aren't into working with MIUI. Even though it's still using 4.2.x, everything I need works, including Samsung WatchOn that was posted here on another ROM as a standalone recovery installation with a Kit Kat 4.4.x ROM.
Have you tried the full latest MIUI download for the I9505. Been trying to download that for the last three days. REALLY slow site
Miss the days when there were those English packs that pretty much weeded a lot of the Chinese stuff out, but I can live with that too :good:
Edit: Just saw your join date here same as me...Jan 2010 and you also had the Nexus One. Probably ran into some time or another back in those olden days if I did a search here......
PPS...not much traffic so I am taking a little libery in thread drift too
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Lol yeah been here a while and i have had android since the Tmo G1 had many other android phones since always liked miui as well had it on my n1 and loved it and I know what you mean about the English packs.. Lol
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OK, a new update is coming tomorrow.
Now that I understand this phone a bit more I can do a more stable version with the next revision.
I'm going to also include the software camera that comes with Xiaomi phones as well, I'll need feedback on it so I'm going to put it in another flashable zip independent of the download link for MIUI.
Also 4.2.2 is cool and all that but I've been prepping a 4.4 base for MIUI v6 as well and working on a solution for OTA update as well.

Tquetski said:
OK, a new update is coming tomorrow.
Now that I understand this phone a bit more I can do a more stable version with the next revision.
I'm going to also include the software camera that comes with Xiaomi phones as well, I'll need feedback on it so I'm going to put it in another flashable zip independent of the download link for MIUI.
Also 4.2.2 is cool and all that but I've been prepping a 4.4 base for MIUI v6 as well and working on a solution for OTA update as well.
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I am totally sold on going back to MIUI. I forgot how much custom stuff was possible. So include me. More than happy to test stuff too before posting if you want help. Spent three days trying to download from the MIUI world site the slighter later, but bloated version which I assume would have been compatible. I9505. But failed at installing in recovery. I have one app that refuses to work correctly with 4.3 or 4.4 updates, but works perfectly under 4.2, but I can live with updates to newer. I basically have to delete cache files everytime before starting the app. Annoying, but do-able.
PS...what local folder are themes that are downloaded stored in. I couldn't get a .mtz file to install when I manually went on the MIUI world site. Using the THEME app on the phone works. Just have to get past the Chinese texts to figure out how to individually apply separate items such as lock screens etc.
EDIT: The prior MIUI theme installers allowed to pick and choose what aspects of a theme you wanted to install. Could not see how to do this currently, unless I'm missing something.
Keep up the good work...thanks!!!

i really cant wait. i hate the nav bar. other than that everything works great even lte

fennix said:
i really cant wait. i hate the nav bar. other than that everything works great even lte
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Edit build.prop to kill the Nav bar. It's posted in the thread.

Isnt there any Miui based on KitKat?
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