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Will a hard reset remove root?

I'm rooted with unrevoked 3 and I want to remove the root so I can install the ota update. So if I do a factory reset will I be good to go? Also what is the best app to backup all of my apps and settings? Musy be a simple one because I'm clueless wirh this stuff. Thanks
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no, a hard reset will not. a reset only wipes userdata and cache and a few other things. why would you want an ota update???? just downlaod one of the roms our talented devs have created for you (most have the newest ota) and flash.

I would but I have no idea how to flash roms and backup and all of that. I don't even know how to find the roms. Or understand the terminology. And why wouldn't I want the ota update are those good because they fix issues and improve stuff?
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ok, it seems this might be a little more complicated than a 2 sentence answer...
you wouldnt want an ota, not because it is not better than its predecessor, but because it is just what htc put in, and as you know, there is alot of stuff htc is not capable of, not willing to, or not creative enough to put in. that is why you would want a custom rom.
a rom is the Read Only Memory of the phone. it is the stuff that tells it what to do when something happens. it is everything you see and do when the phone is booted up, as well as while it is booting. if your phone is rooted, you can do whatever the hell you want to do with it.
the talented devs at xda (including me minus the talent) have made custom roms based off the ota's. most have little add ons and tweaks. some of the more in-depth ones have bigger changes, or even complete ui changes. these devs have packadged them in update.zip scripts, so that they will easily install on your phone. they can be found in the android dev section (in the evo forum)
before flashing a zip (installing a rom through a script) you will need to wipe everything, so it is reccomended to use the titanium backup app to backup all your apps, as well as the data in the apps.
any more questions? shoot
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Thanks I've been researching for the past 3 hours and I've backed up with rom manager and titanium backup and I think I am ready to install my first rom. I'm looking for a completly stable rom with vanilla 2.2 that will let me use everything that I can use on stock like 4g,market, and everything else. Thanks again
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as vanilla, do you mean the lockscreen??? if you do, easy fix. if you mean stock android stuff, you will have a hard time finding 4g there... i am always willing to help. as an extremely stable rom, i reccomend fresh. very stable and looooooong battery

Well not just the lock screen. I just want stock android with no UI at all. And I want everything to work. Thanks for helping me btw
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I'm pretty sure there are no AOSP roms that have everything working, specifically 4G. I think there might be a couple Sense roms that have sense pretty stripped out that look and feel like AOSP, just dig around the development section.
If it's just the UI you care about, you can always install ADW or LauncherPro and make it look like AOSP. That way you have everything working and you get to keep some of Sense's finer parts, like the smart dialer (the AOSP dialer sucks!).

Ok.I'm thinking about trying the fresh rom is there anything that doesn't work with that? Does 4g work? Anything I should know about it? Lol
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I think dude used the word vanilla as an adjective for plain HTC sense 2.2 and not AOSP.

Fresh is awesome. I have been using it for a while and just updated to the latest one today. It's a sense ROM, so everything works. The dock looks a little different compared to stock but that's it.

Alright cool. Because I'm getting horrible battery life even with having the processor underclocked. As soon as I take it off the charger it drops from 100% to 85% within 10 minutes of no use lol. Also wil titanuim backup work with fresh? Like can I restore e erything with no problems?
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tlr386 said:
Alright cool. Because I'm getting horrible battery life even with having the processor underclocked. As soon as I take it off the charger it drops from 100% to 85% within 10 minutes of no use lol. Also wil titanuim backup work with fresh? Like can I restore e erything with no problems?
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Titanium should work with any ROM.
FYI, the paid version will allow you to do a one click batch restore of all apps and data.

Yeah I have the paid ver. But what's the point of switching if the only differnce is the dock. Is the battery life THAT much better?
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tlr386 said:
Yeah I have the paid ver. But what's the point of switching if the only differnce is the dock. Is the battery life THAT much better?
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Switch what? What are you talking about? Fresh ROM? Read the 1st post of the Fresh ROM thread to learn what it features.

I just did the backup and now my pandora and scanner radio apps are gone? Weird
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That's not the only difference, it's the only major VISUAL difference. Most of the other stuff is under the hood. I don't know what kind of battery life you've been getting but with Fresh and king's #11cfs kernel I get great battery life. I put a fresh battery in at 7 this morning and I still have 45%. I was streaming pandora and MeCanto for a couple hours, made a few phone calls, 20 or so texts, and maybe an hour of internet browsing.

Oh I forgot about kernals. How do I install a kernel? Do I have to install a kernal? What is a kernel? Lol
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Those are questions better suited for Google.

Okay? But atleast tell me if I need one. I will be using rom manager to download and install rom.
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Searching the forum

Ok so I'm trying to search just the epic4g area of the forum with my xda app. But I can't seem to figure out how. I have a bunch of questions that the wiki didn't answer but I'm sure someone has asked so I don't want to again. But. When I search I get stuff from other deviece forums as well. Any ideas
Thanks. And is there a thanks feature?
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The app does not have a section-specific search or a thanks button. Might as well ask them.
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zanderman112 said:
The app does not have a section-specific search or a thanks button. Might as well ask them.
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theimpaler747 said:
This is the part I agree with the most. Even from the phone, hit menu on the XDA app, browser, and thank the person helping you.
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Ask away. Ill answer what I can. I don't mind and won't flame ya

Trust us, there are more helpful people here, than flamers(no puns allowed!!)
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Ok first question. I have multiple apps from like the amazon market or from the devs webpage etc and I can't get them to update through the market now. It trys to make me pay again. Or stuff like that.
#2 is there a way to add a custom over my existing stuff. I have work programs on my phone I can not erase. So id like to install swischeese but not loose those or allmy contacts
I know I have or two more I was looking for the answers too but I can't remember right now
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svcbadass said:
Ok first question. I have multiple apps from like the amazon market or from the devs webpage etc and I can't get them to update through the market now. It trys to make me pay again. Or stuff like that.
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Not sure about this one
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#2 is there a way to add a custom over my existing stuff. I have work programs on my phone I can not erase. So id like to install swischeese but not loose those or allmy contacts
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Buy Titanium back up from the Market. Get busy box from with in the app. Do a batch back up of apps and data. Export contacts to SD card if they are not in your Google account. Once you root make sure you do a NANDROID back up. Flash way. Go to Market d/l Titanium "free" the license will automaticly turn it to pro it. Batch restore. Done.

svcbadass said:
Ok first question. I have multiple apps from like the amazon market or from the devs webpage etc and I can't get them to update through the market now. It trys to make me pay again. Or stuff like that.
#2 is there a way to add a custom over my existing stuff. I have work programs on my phone I can not erase. So id like to install swischeese but not loose those or allmy contacts
I know I have or two more I was looking for the answers too but I can't remember right now
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Ok, question 1 is odd, if you an issue updating and all you have done is rooted and changed to the Clean Kernel, its possible you got a bad download. Your best bet is to PM dRockstar on that one. Its really strange if it shows updates available and won't, that's some random issue
On to question 2...definately make a nandroid backup. Power down the phone. Hold volume down, camera button, and power on all at the same time. Scroll down with volume key and select backup/restore. Then select backup and let it do its thing. It takes a few minutes but then you have a backup to rely on BUT its always best to take out your SD card and backup everything to your PC. Nandroid backups aren't always perfect and sometimes if you use one it may not work. If you flash a ROM, its best to install apps fresh but you can (after flashing ROM) boot into recovery, scroll to backup/restore, then advanced, then restore data only. Some ROMs may give you fits that's why its always best to have a saved version of everything on your PC as well
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svcbadass said:
Ok first question. I have multiple apps from like the amazon market or from the devs webpage etc and I can't get them to update through the market now. It trys to make me pay again. Or stuff like that.
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Apps bought from the Amazon Market can only be updated through the Amazon Market. The markets are separate and do not share purchase records. You'll need to have Amazon, and update through it, which is, unfortunately, a little slow on pushing out updates. Rest assured, they will come. Dev pages like SetCpu will post the app free sometimes, but the version in the market is donation-ware. If you want to get it updated for free, you'll have to go back to the page you originally got it and get a new one.
#2 is there a way to add a custom over my existing stuff. I have work programs on my phone I can not erase. So id like to install swischeese but not loose those or allmy contacts
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A couple things here:
What CWM are you on? If you have to update it for a new rom, be aware that the Nandroid backups will not be compatible, and you'll have to odin back to re-use a backup, should something go wrong. I don't know about Swiss Cheese, you'll have to read the posts in it's thread to know if it can flash without losing data. I've posted a rom called RandomROM that is based off of SRF 1.1.0, which can flash over another version of SRF safely, but may not work properly in other situations.

Thanks for the info on the updates
And I'm on cwm 2.5.1
I have a nandroid backup, a mybackup back up. Ill get that other one as well and ill see how things go and then try n flash a rom
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[Q]Installed First ROM, fastest way to recover apps etc

I just installed my first rom. Its one the Calkulins EL29 one. I did a Nandroid backup and also a Titanium Backup. I'm new to all this so was wondering what is the quickest way to get all my apps and all that back. Sorry if this was asked before. Thanks.

In titanium press menu, then batch. Select user app + data. In minutes you're up and running. I would not advise restoring* system apps

tkemack said:
In titanium press menu, then batch. Select user app + data. In minutes you're up and running. I would not advise retiring system apps
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Thanks for the quick response!!!

Good to see a newbie asking questions instead of just doing things and bricking your phone. If your on GB and flashing to another GB rom, (using your nandroid backup) you can also boot into cwm and advanced restore your data as well . Because your new you should consider reading my guide to avoid bricking your phone if you decide to flash to ICS anytime soon
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495

xST4T1K said:
Good to see a newbie asking questions instead of just doing things and bricking your phone. If your on GB and flashing to another GB rom, (using your nandroid backup) you can also boot into cwm and advanced restore your data as well . Because your new you should consider reading my guide to avoid bricking your phone if you decide to flash to ICS anytime soon
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
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Thanks for the heads up my man. I'll definitely have to check out your guide. Are you running an ICS rom now? If so how is it?

Idk if it's worth it for you, but I'd highly recommend purchasing the pro version of titanium. I know its like $6 but the upgraded features are awesome.
For instance, what you're about to do, one of the upgrades would be not having to press install as it goes through each of your apps. You'd just press batch install and set your phone down
That's just one small feature of the upgraded. One of the only apps I had zero problem paying for!
Epic 4G Touch perfected by Calk!

Ya man I'm using Mijjz pics blend fb27 and its great IMO still a few bugs but I'm one of the lucky few to have a working gps
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ignore my predictive text
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AVAH0LIC said:
Idk if it's worth it for you, but I'd highly recommend purchasing the pro version of titanium. I know its like $6 but the upgraded features are awesome.
For instance, what you're about to do, one of the upgrades would be not having to press install as it goes through each of your apps. You'd just press batch install and set your phone down
That's just one small feature of the upgraded. One of the only apps I had zero problem paying for!
Epic 4G Touch perfected by Calk!
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I always buy the paid versions for apps like that to support the developers. It worked like a charm .

xST4T1K said:
Ya man I'm using Mijjz pics blend fb27 and its great IMO still a few bugs but I'm one of the lucky few to have a working gps
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Oh k sounds good. I'll have to give that ROM a spin.

Titanium for sure. It's also free
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I_FLY_Z3R0 said:
Titanium for sure. It's also free
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Yup that's what I used.
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Good choice.
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tkemack said:
In titanium press menu, then batch. Select user app + data. In minutes you're up and running. I would not advise restoring* system apps
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Cant it cause issues if you restore apps + data? I always thought it was better/safer to do apps only.

cds0699 said:
Cant it cause issues if you restore apps + data? I always thought it was better/safer to do apps only.
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I didn't have any issue with doing both.

If you flash a new rom then yes restoring system data can potentially cause problems. I never back up system data because I change roms to frequently.
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I_FLY_Z3R0 said:
If you flash a new rom then yes restoring system data can potentially cause problems. I never back up system data because I change roms to frequently.
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Always a good idea to backup system data or you may not be saved someday. Luckily for us Samsung includes download for Odin, other devices you may not be so lucky, and without a full nandroid you may be screwed (happens on tabs all the time) happy flashing!
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[Q] SOLVED-Apps not gone after flash?!

Ever since I've started flashing ROMs, I've become accustomed to jumping on the market and re-installing all the apps that were deleted during the wipe process. No problem really, I like the idea of a fresh install. However, oddly enough, since flashing Ev1lArt's Wicked v7 and now his JB v3 Roms, the apps from the store persist. Third party apks are still in my downloads and I can re-install them, but the ones from the market instantly start downloading and updating once the phone is done booting up.
On one hand, I think it's fantastic! No more searching the store for all the apps I want.
On the other hand I'm concerned this is an indication of something gone wrong.
If anybody has any insight, I'd be very grateful. Thanks!
Edit: Another question/afterthought. When I went from Wicked v7 (ICS) to v3 (JB) I used Odin and the root66 tar for a clean JB install. I was under the impression partitions would be re-allocated during this process, but there was no PIT file and the instructions are very clear about which boxes to check (ie, don't check re-partition). Am I missing something? Are PIT files not necessary going from ICS to JB? Also interesting to note, when I booted up after ODIN, my apps, wallpapers, Nova Launcher setup etc were all still there. I thought the point of doing a fresh ODIN install was to get the phone to an "out of the box" condition.
Am I just a worry wort? Should I just be happy that some Android magic has saved me some hassle? Thanks again.

Google is supposed to back up what was on your phone and then red download it (restore) from the play store. Downloads always stay, unless you wipe it.

When you say "wipe it", do you mean wipe data/factory reset in recovery? Cuz I always do that.
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That doesn't wipe storage/sdcard. The folders you see when you plug into a computer. Uninstalling apps also doesn't delete those folders

On some roms when you flash on the locations setup screen it will ask if you want to restore your apps from google play...if you leave it checked it well immediately start downloading your apps based off your google account...

Googles backs your data up always when flashing a new rom fireup the play store and go throught the log in thingy there will be an option that you can tick it says "keep my phone backed up whit google" simply untick and voila... its no issue at all trust me
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Lol, and here I thought that was for calendar, mail, contacts etc. Thanks a ton. As long as it's working as advertised and not some fluke.
Thanks!
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Krazeee said:
Lol, and here I thought that was for calendar, mail, contacts etc. Thanks a ton. As long as it's working as advertised and not some fluke.
Thanks!
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It does work whitout hassle neat feature if you ask me
:Cheers:
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It's funny cuz I always check that box during setup and I've flashed at least 10 ROMs and it's never reinstalled my apps.

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It's funny cuz I always check that box during setup and I've flashed at least 10 ROMs and it's never reinstalled my apps.
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Really ? Works fine for me go to settings before flashing another rom i remember somewhere there is an option to keep the phone backed up.. not in the play store but the main settings itself..
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Krazeee said:
Lol, and here I thought that was for calendar, mail, contacts etc. Thanks a ton. As long as it's working as advertised and not some fluke.
Thanks!
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If you are a little paranoid and want a true clean install, wipe system in recovery before you install your preferred rom. The Google restore had been hit and miss for me over the years so I stopped checking the box and relied on titanium backup. Sounds like it is working better now.

No Root

I've chosen not to root my gn2 but I would still like to customize it as much as I can. I love black out apks and was wondering if somebody knows of any apks I can use on my unrooted gn2 to customize it? A lot of thanks to anybody who can help me...
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MzBossn said:
I've chosen not to root my gn2 but I would still like to customize it as much as I can. I love black out apks and was wondering if somebody knows of any apks I can use on my unrooted gn2 to customize it? A lot of thanks to anybody who can help me...
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Can I ask why not? I get not wanting to go as far as custom roms, but with adblockers and access to the system and data partitions, you can do quite a bit without having to go for a full rom.

Well I'm just comfortable with touchwiz and honestly the last phone I had I thought I knew what doing and bricked. So I lost the courage just getting into all this so I'm a newbie...
:'( but I see all the customizations and would love to have them so I just wanted to take the easy way out and get some apks that would work with my stock...
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Best way to customize your unrooted phone is probaly thru your launcher of choice... there are some that can be customized more than others, basically what your looking for is different themes/icons which you can find for free or buy in the play store.
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What I really want is a black screen planner or a blacked out Facebook, Twitter, transparent multiview a different lockscreen clock... I'm guessing everything I want in going to have to root my phone for huh?
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Actually those can probaly be found doing searches thru xda,or google for sure.
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I had found some but most of them said must root... And the ones that didn't I was afraid to install because I wasn't sure... I'll keep looking though... I thought maybe someone would have a link or something here...
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lickarock said:
Can I ask why not? I get not wanting to go as far as custom roms, but with adblockers and access to the system and data partitions, you can do quite a bit without having to go for a full rom.
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Have to agree with lickarock. There's still quite a lot you can do without going all out like full ROMs. If you simply root your phone and load SuperSU (SuperUser), you can load something like ES File Explorer and do simple installs of apk files through there. You really don't have to worry about bricking your phone in that situation.
While I do load different roms on my N2, like you, I just wanted to get blacked out apps also. I'm running blacked out Gmail and Facebook currently, which I loaded through ESFE. Just make sure you uninstall the original apps then install the apks through ESFE and reboot. Everythings running smooth on my phone.
I've had a few scares loading different ROMs where my phone wouldn't boot up and I thought I maybe bricked my phone.......luckily I got it back up and running. Battery pulls suck.......lol
Just be sure to read through all the posts that you find which interest you. Typically, people post issues they are having and possible fixes. If you want to run different roms or something later, just be sure your phone is running the correct specs for it, ie....your baseband version is MA7 vs MC2, not all roms are compatible with multiple versions.

Okay I think I will go that route... ? Say I root it, and 4.2 finally makes its way ota will it still hit my phone or will I have to unrooted in order to get it?
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MzBossn said:
Okay I think I will go that route... ? Say I root it, and 4.2 finally makes its way ota will it still hit my phone or will I have to unrooted in order to get it?
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You would have to either unroot, or wait for a dev to put out a stock rooted version as far as I know..
From my rat infested note ii

It's some black out apps here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236579
I believe other apps require root
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MzBossn said:
Okay I think I will go that route... ? Say I root it, and 4.2 finally makes its way ota will it still hit my phone or will I have to unrooted in order to get it?
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What spary said! You're really better off just waiting for one of the devs to roll the updates out.
Again....read the threads all the way through and if you still have questions, do a SEARCH and see if you can find your answers.......if you can't find after searches, don't be afraid to ask ?s.
GL!

If you want a brick-proof(ish) method to get a Root, just Odin a full rooted restore to your phone. Such as this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2241136. Its about as mindless and safe as you can get.

I'm a noob when it comes to rooting/flashing
This phone has been the easiest to root and flash roms to
i used this video as a reference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6BweCW5ck8

mrmondaynight said:
I'm a noob when it comes to rooting/flashing
This phone has been the easiest to root and flash roms to
i used this video as a reference
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Your awesome thank you!!!
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If you choose not to root, there are still several ways to have a highly customized phone.
Personally, I am a fan of rooting. I have rooted every android phone I have had except my Note 2. Long story short, I bought my Note 2 through my business and cannot afford to run into any headaches that can sometimes pop up even to the most experienced flasher. I will say the Note 2 is also the first android phone that I haven't felt the need to root for increased performance. CPU, RAM, Battery life, this phone has all three for days.
I created a thread dedicated to creating a custom look without root. And in many ways this is the most custom phone I've ever had.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274378
It's a work in progress and I am adding more and more stuff all the time.
Also check out mycolorscreen.com
For a blacked out messaging app you might check out Go SMS Pro. There are downloadable themes and you can make your own.

Dakota0206 said:
If you choose not to root, there are still several ways to have a highly customized phone.
Personally, I am a fan of rooting. I have rooted every android phone I have had except my Note 2. Long story short, I bought my Note 2 through my business and cannot afford to run into any headaches that can sometimes pop up even to the most experienced flasher. I will say the Note 2 is also the first android phone that I haven't felt the need to root for increased performance. CPU, RAM, Battery life, this phone has all three for days.
I created a thread dedicated to creating a custom look without root. And in many ways this is the most custom phone I've ever had.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274378
It's a work in progress and I am adding more and more stuff all the time.
Also check out mycolorscreen.com
For a blacked out messaging app you might check out Go SMS Pro. There are downloadable themes and you can make your own.
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Thank you that's very informative... I really enjoy touchwiz but I just want to root to remove the system apps that prevent me from installing the blackout apps I want like gmail, playstore, ect... And get rid of the ones I don't want or use but I still want the ota's and touchwiz and thanks to the people in this thread is figured out how to customize it exactly how I want it... Thank You all of you!!!!
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Just root! I was new to samsung and odin with the gn2 and I swear its simple and worth it! You can then go with custom sized touchwiz launcher that you know and want, but looks more appropriate and utilizes the size of the display properly!
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