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Becoming a dev .

Hey guys am curious to how hard it is to start developing . I'm not in I.T industry but have a passion for technology . Would like to get into the development side. Is it possible to be self taught. I know my way around a computer reasonably well. Just wondering if its possible or in the too hard basket ?
Maybe someone could point me in the right direction ?
Thx
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Learn basic java first, then C&C++.
you can find lots of resources on the net, especially from lynda and Dummy books.
btw if you want to develop things for android, it is suggested that you are fluent in linux

That sounds like it would take a few years to master. Wasting my time u reckon?
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firstin said:
That sounds like it would take a few years to master. Wasting my time u reckon?
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The whole android os is based on java so that would be a good start
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[Q] HTC Desire Ice Cream Sandwich ROM

Is it possible that ICS will get to the normal HTC Desire AMOLED as a ROM? It would've been nice if it happened! I'd love to if someone made a ROM for the normal desire AMOLED with stock HBOOT and no bugs plus an OTA update URL! . It would've made my year and christmas! So what do you think? Do you think that the big developers will try to do this, or do you think they will just forget the desire and be lazy and mean and only support new phones? Please answer!

I guess only time will tell.

Hi,
I see you posted two threads one barely less senseless than the other. I was wondering what have you been smoking lately coz I want some of that too?
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*smashing head over desk*

Yay. I want the ice cream and all de other puddings on ma fone. HTC will be do that soon me think. Manager of HTC shop and head of HTC fan boy club say its possible if dev manage to fix issues with loose buttons the screen can take the measure but backwards engineering will be possible to make it happen. 3 cheers for devs and xda and happy fun for everyone who likes chocolate cake in their fones
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In all due respect. After reviewing all your posts, all 6 of them. I feel it necessary to say, stop demanding answers or roms from devs and gain some basic knowledge about android and how big companies such as HTC operate (hint: you bought the phone, it's now obsolete, no they don't care about you.) Be thankful we have such intelligent and generous devs who keep the desire alive. They have no obligation to create any rom or answer any question even if their rom broke your phone. I'm not saying you are stupid or disrespectful simply you should think before posting.

I have to say I never thought there'd be an industry in which Apple was the flag-holder for long-term device support. All the Android device manufacturers suck, really... I'd be quite surprised to get ICS on my Atrix, let alone my Desire

Terepin said:
*smashing head over desk*
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Me too
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rootSU said:
Yay. I want the ice cream and all de other puddings on ma fone. HTC will be do that soon me think. Manager of HTC shop and head of HTC fan boy club say its possible if dev manage to fix issues with loose buttons the screen can take the measure but backwards engineering will be possible to make it happen. 3 cheers for devs and xda and happy fun for everyone who likes chocolate cake in their fones
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Learn to type and speak you chav.

SeanBond said:
Learn to type and speak you chav.
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Moderate intelligence should tell you this was a sarcastic mocking post not how he normally writes he's actually a rather intelligent active member of these forums
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SeanBond said:
Learn to type and speak you chav.
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Learn to think, you fool. Go and check your mini dump files because I think your brain just blue screened
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It's coming, just wait.

There was already a ICS 003a Rom in desire development thread, you can try it .But it's not daily use, just nightly.

SeanBond said:
Learn to type and speak you chav.
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FAIL!
10char

SeanBond said:
Learn to type and speak you chav.
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learn to use your brain and understand people making funnies. Not to mention respecting active, senior members in the community.

SeanBond said:
Learn to type and speak you chav.
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You´re a d!ckhead...

No, I am d!ckhead, he is just an idiot.

bortak said:
Not to mention respecting active, senior members in the community.
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Those times are looong gone.
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The question is not when but if Desire can handle ICS without problems.
On the other hand I wonder if HTC will make Sense for ICS. Time will tell.

Terepin said:
No, I am d!ckhead, he is just an idiot.
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I don´t understand.. Why?

[DEV] Sense 4 Desire C port (WFSDEV)

Let's talk sense 4
Github: github.com/wfsdev/marvel-golf-port
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Reserved
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I wanted to start that , but it seems like nobody other than s_off can do it , as for the internal memory has to be resized for the system to fit ...

this thread will house the ROM when it is finished
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seaskyways said:
I wanted to start that , but it seems like nobody other than s_off can do it , as for the internal memory has to be resized for the system to fit ...
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Indeed but we can strip and png crush
We could also attempt something like system2ext - for now we will probably use repartitioning zips as most of us devs are s-off.
Edit: it looks like using the SD for system is easy due to the way we can pretend it's part of the internal memory
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I never really liked squashed roms.. but may have to pull the squasher out.
Hardware sounds strikingly similar.. anybody know of any other differentials other than [its] arm7 vs [our] arm6?
Rob
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a reason to go back to sense again.. looking forward..

insink71 said:
I never really liked squashed roms.. but may have to pull the squasher out.
Hardware sounds strikingly similar.. anybody know of any other differentials other than [its] arm7 vs [our] arm6?
Rob
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Just a different instruction set, no real problems, only really for game porting. Some libs will need to be changed.
The reason why it is hard to port games to armv6 is because v7 supports floating point calculation.
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It does support it better; although the armv6l does have a lil virtual floating point. Main thing is you'd probably have to rewrite shaders for gaming. Luckily, that's not where we're at
Built on ics I assume... 4.0.x; x=?
Nice.. jik..,mind.., I mean einstein.frat has a 3.0 kernel; that may come in handy.
Rob
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insink71 said:
It does support it better; although the armv6l does have a lil virtual floating point. Main thing is you'd probably have to rewrite shaders for gaming. Luckily, that's not where we're at
Built on ics I assume... 4.0.x; x=?
Rob
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I will look at build.prop now
My guess is 4.0.3
Edit: I was right, it is 4.0.3
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this is imposible port, its like porting symbian 3 to an X6. I'll just wait for an idogx port if this is possible, then I start modding as usual.

einstein.frat said:
this is imposible port, its like porting symbian 3 to an X6. I'll just wait for an idogx port if this is possible, then I start modding as usual.
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What are you on about mate?
Nice thread benj, also XDA newswriters said to me they will feature post the wildfire s about ics as soon as a sense 4 rom is available in some way, then I have to tell them. Then everyone will know about CM9 too.

Henry_01 said:
Guys stop fighting over here, this is a DEV thread!
We are only with four on this project. JMZ hasn't the time and benjamin hasn't got internet.
That's only me and simon remaining. I guess simon has his things to do also.
Therefore I'm asking help, you just need a github account and a WFS of course.
d33ps1x, alquez, matt5eo, eoghan2t7, ...
I removed already a lot of stuff and I've got some ideas to remove some more:
the list!
Thanks!
PS: I will temporary stop this until someone else helps me. This way normal users will get angry and the work will start again
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If you're really desperate for space then alarms, notifications and ringtones can be stored on the sd card under /sdcard/Media/ in their respective folder.

einstein.frat said:
We'll you act as if you are geniuses in porting, dont tell me you made a sense 3.5 rom port when it was all idogx work. Stop making lullabies I see you posting your to be done projects and hating touchwiz. Dude find a job or go to school than roaming and posting lies.
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Cough aokp cough
m1ndh4x8r said:
Oh yeah, then who is no.human.being arselicker, black a$$ indian noob. Buy a desire c poor c*ck sckr.
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Wow, that is just......low. To everybody who doesn't know, m1nd is Einstein.Frat so....
1. Multiple accounts is against rules
2. Off topic is against rules
3. Unneeded foul language is not allowed
4. insulting other people is obviously not allowed
SO TO EVERYBODY READING THIS, I WOULD NOT TRUST YOUR PHONE WITH A GUY WHO MADE A TOTAL OF 3 ACCOUNTS AND AGGRESS WITH HIMSELF.
Henry_01 said:
Guys stop fighting over here, this is a DEV thread!
We are only with four on this project. JMZ hasn't the time and benjamin hasn't got internet.
That's only me and simon remaining. I guess simon has his things to do also.
Therefore I'm asking help, you just need a github account and a WFS of course.
d33ps1x, alquez, matt5eo, eoghan2t7, ...
I removed already a lot of stuff and I've got some ideas to remove some more:
the list!
Thanks!
PS: I will temporary stop this until someone else helps me. This way normal users will get angry and the work will start again
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Well, I found a way of getting internet, I found an old copy of backtrack 3
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WOW. Can't believe what i'm seeing here. If only devs can work together and build the most stable ICS Sense 4 rom!
Edit: Feel like wanting to learn porting roms myself.. if only i have the skills like you guys..

im no dev but i gotta say this, that guy is really annoying i hope you guys can port this i think it looks great. well, this one and cm9/aokp

benjamingwynn said:
Well, I found a way of getting internet, I found an old copy of backtrack 3
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hope to see u back soon

Henry_01 said:
Guys stop fighting over here, this is a DEV thread!
We are only with four on this project. JMZ hasn't the time and benjamin hasn't got internet.
That's only me and simon remaining. I guess simon has his things to do also.
Therefore I'm asking help, you just need a github account and a WFS of course.
d33ps1x, alquez, matt5eo, eoghan2t7, ...
I removed already a lot of stuff and I've got some ideas to remove some more:
the list!
Thanks!
PS: I will temporary stop this until someone else helps me. This way normal users will get angry and the work will start again
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uhh.. simon's computer went capoot, and I said I'd throw some time at it already... maybe that was Jmz's announcement thread.
wierd.. the suggestions I made on github today got erased... perhaps I have better things to do with my time as well. This thread is getting a little crazy anyway; don't want to add to any fray.
Rob

"Coming soon" threads are not allowed. I think the posts in this thread show why.
One member has been banned permanently. others will receive infractions or bans once I start going through the thread now.
@OP please start a new thread once you have something available for download.
EDIT: another permanent ban and one 7 day ban handed out. Stop with the flaming and trolling.

this is for the developers

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149705 have a look here hope u all wil port it soon

Stop this!!!!!!! The developers decide what they develop and or port. Not us users
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R: this is for the developers
gulsher said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149705 have a look here hope u all wil port it soon
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Dude all developers have their things to do you can't ask them to do things for you.. they have normal lives too they can't spend all day on xda. You can try to port it yourself if you want it that much
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lars1216 said:
Stop this!!!!!!! The developers decide what they develop and or port. Not us users
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mr_nooby said:
Dude all developers have their things to do you can't ask them to do things for you.. they have normal lives too they can't spend all day on xda. You can try to port it yourself if you want it that much
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if all of guys have noticed there i have written "HOPE" so this is not an order or something i"am just sharing it as a information to add more roms in HOV thread. Its upto them whether they want to do or not I'am not forcing anyone here.
did I ?

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gulsher said:
if all of guys have noticed there i have written "HOPE" so this is not an order or something i"am just sharing it as a information to add more roms in HOV thread. Its upto them whether they want to do or not I'am not forcing anyone here.
did I ?
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No one (not me) meant you are forcing them, it's just that in these period our devs are doing their bests and they are having lots of problems. And Ubuntu looks hard to port :sly:
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mr_nooby said:
No one (not me) meant you are forcing them, it's just that in these period our devs are doing their bests and they are having lots of problems. And Ubuntu looks hard to port :sly:
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i dont think its possible for our device(especially with 512 mb RAM) to support Ubuntu

R: this is for the developers
Sabbit said:
i dont think its possible for our device(especially with 512 mb RAM) to support Ubuntu
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I think it may be possible, but it will be hard to fix and stuff
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Ubuntu did say it should run on any phone with a 1ghz+ (stock speed) processor. So in theory it should but it's all up to the developers. we get the roms that they would want on their devices and that's exactly the way it should be.
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R: this is for the developers
Also because they aren't paid, they could keep the roms for themselves but they share with us to make us a favor :thumbup:
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Hey every body calm down first yes Ubuntu is and will be difficult i would like to see it but it is far past my knowledge and as far as i know it may not be possible for u who didn't read up on it yes 1± processor is a requirement but they also say dual and no device under our ram will be able to soppurt Ubuntu so if it is possible I'm sure it will come. So until then cut people some slack and as ur momma's should of told u if u don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all
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no, they said the ubuntu phone version that could also be used as a full desktop when mounted on the docking station which is connected to a tv/monitor. for only the phone os part you dont need dual core.

I want to make an app.... Where's the best place to start?

I know nothing about it, and am eager to learn. Where to start............?!?!
Thanks to anyone that can help! :good:
P.S- Sorry if this isn't the place to post this.

Have you looked in the App Development Forum in the main forum listing? Also XDA university... Just a couple of suggestions
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edfunkycold said:
Have you looked in the App Development Forum in the main forum listing? Also XDA university... Just a couple of suggestions
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Thanks man. Anyone else have tips? It'd be appreciated.

Do you know Java ? If not, you should start there.

Lmao I know nothing about any of this. I am as noob as a noob could be!! I'm literally starting from square 1...
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Joe0113 said:
Lmao I know nothing about any of this. I am as noob as a noob could be!! I'm literally starting from square 1...
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Yeah, definitely start with Java then :thumbup:

CNexus said:
Yeah, definitely start with Java then :thumbup:
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Starting out with this cool website I found: http://www.codecademy.com/#!/exercises/0
Also found this too: http://developer.android.com/training/basics/firstapp/index.html

+1 on learning java, then maybe some android SDKs, along with Eclipse software. You learn all this, your well on your way. Java will definitely take the longest to learn.
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Id like to have somebody createnan app for me.. an app that lets me access my employee mainframe at work.. we have access to it via WEB, but id like a custom app so that i dont have to goto the webpage and log in..and blah blah...and its a JAVA based page too..
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Can't even figure out how to get this freakn Android SDK thing to work!! I have no idea how to install the Android SDK. It's DLed onto my computer, and I extracted it but whenever I click on Eclipse to start a project, it's not working! I get an error message about Java.
I'm a freakn idiot!!! I didn't have Java Runtime Environment installed hahaa. Got it working let's see how this goes.
If anyone has any helpful tips, or sites, or teaching.. ANYTHING feel free to post here!!!! :good:

Joe0113 said:
Can't even figure out how to get this freakn Android SDK thing to work!! I have no idea how to install the Android SDK. It's DLed onto my computer, and I extracted it but whenever I click on Eclipse to start a project, it's not working! I get an error message about Java.
I'm a freakn idiot!!! I didn't have Java Runtime Environment installed hahaa. Got it working let's see how this goes.
If anyone has any helpful tips, or sites, or teaching.. ANYTHING feel free to post here!!!! :good:
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You can go to googles Dev site and watch the countless tutorials on android development. Also YouTube has toms of mini series covering all aspects of a android development if you are a visual learner I would highly recommend watching these series. Try to find the newest set possible. ICS or newer as the api has changed drastically and so has the adtt plugin for eclipse. Also you can find the eBook beginning android development in PDF form its pretty good and is also based on ICS and newer. Between all that you should be able to pick it up.
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