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[Q]How can I extend the System storage (memory) ?

Hi,
as everybody have noticed Samsung has integrated into their firmwares 3 storage locations:
System storage (1GB)
USB storage (or internal SD card) (1.7GB)
SD card (or external SD card) (up to 32GB)
A way how to swap USB storage and SD card is already given.
Like most of you gamers have already noticed, the memory of the internal SD card is often too small to download big games (like NFL 2012, Real Football 2012, etc.)
I know there are ways how to swap or use apps to swap temporarily the directions.
But I want a permanent solution with full capability of storage usage.
So here is what I would like to do:
Change the storage to:
System storage (2,7GB)
SD card (up to 32GB)
So basically extend the system storage and delete the USB storage. Than swap the internal SD and external SD card.
Advantages:
Media Server will only have to search one direction(physical SD card)
Only 2 main directions
SD card direction IS a physical SD card.
SD card, if class 10, is quicker than the internal storage(for apps).
Hope someone can help.
greets
THE-E

Sounds like a good plan.....I never can understand the Samsung memory/storage layout..... even for app devs deciding on /sdcard as default data store.....Samsung just breaks defaults.
Has your plan been tried on any other Samsung model.....or other Androids with the same Internal/External layout??
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irishpancake said:
Sounds like a good plan.....I never can understand the Samsung memory/storage layout..... even for app devs deciding on /sdcard as default data store.....Samsung just breaks defaults.
Has your plan been tried on any other Samsung model.....or other Androids with the same Internal/External layout??
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I have been searching for quite some time. I have seen someone writing about a data.ex4 file which was 4GB big. But not sure what it was used for.
I'll dig a bit deeper into that :-D
greets
THE-E

Do u mean u want to merge the system and usb storage into one...?
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jahlee said:
Do u mean u want to merge the system and usb storage into one...?
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Yes thats the plan :-D. But I have no clue about the internal restrictions of Android and the Samsung firmware.
I think if the extension of the system storage would work, than all we have to do is swap internal and external sd card. And keep the small internal(former internal sd card) partition unmounted.
BTW: My system storage has almost full. 850MB/1.07GB
greets
THE-E

I hve no idea too bro...can't help..
Many new devices around here use this three layer storage...
But,what I thought ,when we succes do this..there's no need to swap I think..
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So I have searched and searched ...
Didn't come veeery far, but atleast found a thread with a similiar concern:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398797
This is for the Galaxy Mini.
I asked the developer or thread starter, whether he can help us out.
Let's wait and see, hopefully he comes around.
EDIT: Doc_cheilvenerdi.org has replied, and is working on a solution. Hope it is going to work .
greets
THE-E

good i'm very interested

Dang...good news...!!
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A hell of a news! Will keep on referring this thread. Good day!

u juz go into the android market and download this app called "Gl to Sd"...after install u can save ur game data on the external sd with this...enjoy

shan1188 said:
u juz go into the android market and download this app called "Gl to Sd"...after install u can save ur game data on the external sd with this...enjoy
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Only Problem is, if the game is bigger than the internal sd space, you won't be able to download to sdcard. Because the procedure is like this:
Download game to internal SD -> move downloaded files to external SD
So you SD card has to be always free, unless you want to use the swap temporarily.
greets
THE-E

how about this one http://www.jayceooi.com/2011/10/02/how-to-move-gameloft-games-data-to-external-sd-card/

Update
I am in contact with Doc_cheilvenerdi.org, so I just want to give you a small update of the more or less current status. It might inspire some other devs.
So this was the second to last message (obviously with the kind permission of Doc_cheilvenerdi.org):
Doc_cheilvenerdi.org said:
THE-E said:
...I have contacted qzem for the source code of the kernel...
Is there anything else missing or what I can do to help?
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I'm here!
From a full firmware I just figured out that we don't need Kernel source because the ext4 kernel modules are already inside the Stock kernels (really good news)...
Now I'm dealing with the AOSP mkbootimg tool, used to repack the boot image after tweaking it...
It seems that they use a slightly modified one (? it should not occurr)...
I find two main differences... the first one is Solved... I can patch the mkbootimg code myself to use it...
The second one is related to 2 hex pages (4096 * 2 byte) of code at the end of the boot image that I cannot handle...
...anyway I don't know how to handle it...
Actually I cannot test modded images myself (I don't own a I8150) and could be dangerous to ask somebody else to do it for me...
Two questions to you:
1) Your Galaxy does have a fixed partition table, right? just to exclude that those codes are sizes and addresses of system parts... (this could be easy for us)
2) can you post me the output of the command (from adb shell or terminal emulator)
# busybox ls -l /dev/block/
while you have the sdcard slotted in?
After that I can prepare a boot image smaller (and NOT tweaked yet) just to not overwrite the code "I don't know what it is"...
but it's up to you to test for it...
...maybe it could not work...
...I will couple the repacked boot image with the original one, anyway, just to revert easy to it in case of troubleshootings...
but I repeat... it's up to you...
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greets
THE-E

This is a nice idea.
Ty for Keeping us updated m8

Hey guys any news on this? I think another good reason for this is that it will hopefully increase the amount of ram available, at this minute I have 87 mb free And hardly any apps open. So any news on this as it would be really helpful?
Jamie

jamidodger1 said:
Hey guys any news on this? I think another good reason for this is that it will hopefully increase the amount of ram available, at this minute I have 87 mb free And hardly any apps open. So any news on this as it would be really helpful?
Jamie
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As far as I understood this solution would let you better use your memory card and system/app space, but I don't think it would increase at all the amount of RAM available, unfortunately...
Anyway, yeah, keep us posted thanks!

hey THE-E
is thr any news abt this post cuz i really wanna extend my app size without having to swap memories or installing apps to external memory (all i wanna do is get 2.7 GB on 1 partition for app installation )

mosta_9741 said:
hey THE-E
is thr any news abt this post cuz i really wanna extend my app size without having to swap memories or installing apps to external memory (all i wanna do is get 2.7 GB on 1 partition for app installation )
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Unfortunately not. Not sure what the reason was, but there was a misunderstanding and after that there was no further reaction from the developer. I guess it was not possible.
greets
THE-E

[Q] Annoying Memory Issue on worlds Best phone.

Hi there,
Its my first post so please ignore if I am repeating this querry.
BTW I am using my note II and its been great experince so far.
What I want to know is that:-
1.I found out that I cannot have games more than the devices memory as internal memory gets full and I have to delete some game every time when i am installing a new one, the more pain is that in this thing i also have to lose my all saved data.
2. Cant receive files to SD card when ever internal memory is full,although i have 32 gb ext card totally free, It's very heartbreaking to face this issue on a best phone.
Please tell me the best possible solution to these to issues. I'll be very thankfull to you all.
Other details:
I am not rooted and also don't want to do it.

xxx21202 said:
Hi there,
Its my first post so please ignore if I am repeating this querry.
BTW I am using my note II and its been great experince so far.
What I want to know is that:-
1.I found out that I cannot have games more than the devices memory as internal memory gets full and I have to delete some game every time when i am installing a new one, the more pain is that in this thing i also have to lose my all saved data.
2. Cant receive files to SD card when ever internal memory is full,although i have 32 gb ext card totally free, It's very heartbreaking to face this issue on a best phone.
Please tell me the best possible solution to these to issues. I'll be very thankfull to you all.
Other details:
I am not rooted and also don't want to do it.
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Unfortunately for you rooting is the only solution if you want to move apps or install them on your external memory directly. Just in case you decide to finally root your phone you can use apps like directorybind or apps2sd... They work perfectly fine as long as you follow exact instructions.
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bushako said:
Unfortunately for you rooting is the only solution if you want to move apps or install them on your external memory directly. Just in case you decide to finally root your phone you can use apps like directorybind or apps2sd... They work perfectly fine as long as you follow exact instructions.
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Hi bushako,thanks for helping.
kindly let me know if i root, am I i able to retain my saved game data also? and if i want to play the same game after deleting it can i get the same working with saves?
also let me know other best apps for this whole thing.

Yes rooting will not format or erase your apps/saved games. It's just a matter of letting certain apps have access to your root directory which by default is disabled, there are many threads on instructions on safely rooting your phone. As for retaining the saved game after deleting the app I'm not sure but I think the only way is to manually access the files where the saved games are stored and backing them up. Another method I would choose is by using Titanium Backup app, but it will require rooting. It will allow you to backup all or individual games onto the external sd card including there data. So that you can restore the game with the saved data anytime in the future.
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Best thing is to root and use the mod to switch your internal sd and external sd... so the phone reads your 32gb ext sd card as internal and installs all your games on it with the data
scribbled from my note 2 (N7100)

bushako said:
Unfortunately for you rooting is the only solution if you want to move apps or install them on your external memory directly. Just in case you decide to finally root your phone you can use apps like directorybind or apps2sd... They work perfectly fine as long as you follow exact instructions.
Sent from the Rabbit Hole
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I am rioted and am running on full stock. How to use apps2sd to move it to the mem card ?
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@ KyleDevlin12....dont use that stupid apps2sd..it doesnt work dude....the best and ONLY solution is use directory bind...soo easy to use...in 3 steps your games are in your external memory...Or another method...if you want to use the mod which change the external into internal memory ...than u have to buy a 64 gb sd card..otherwise it isnt worth to use this mod.
So from my own experience ....Directory bind is the king in this case.
hope i helped you out.
Best Regards.

Not quoting many post, just to add
-Root device
-Root won't erase anything (though always prefer backup), even rooting only can backup game level etc.
-Directory bind i recommend. This also survice your data while factory reset. Read This

dr.ketan said:
Not quoting many post, just to add
-Root device
-Root won't erase anything (though always prefer backup), even rooting only can backup game level etc.
-Directory bind i recommend. This also survice your data while factory reset. Read This
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A huge thanx to all of you guys, I will be rooting soon.

aloush5592 said:
@ KyleDevlin12....dont use that stupid apps2sd..it doesnt work dude....the best and ONLY solution is use directory bind...soo easy to use...in 3 steps your games are in your external memory...Or another method...if you want to use the mod which change the external into internal memory ...than u have to buy a 64 gb sd card..otherwise it isnt worth to use this mod.
So from my own experience ....Directory bind is the king in this case.
hope i helped you out.
Best Regards.
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I have Tried GL 2 SD , it works really great with my N7105

aloush5592 said:
@ KyleDevlin12....dont use that stupid apps2sd..it doesnt work dude....the best and ONLY solution is use directory bind...soo easy to use...in 3 steps your games are in your external memory...Or another method...if you want to use the mod which change the external into internal memory ...than u have to buy a 64 gb sd card..otherwise it isnt worth to use this mod.
So from my own experience ....Directory bind is the king in this case.
hope i helped you out.
Best Regards.
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Thanxx man I have read about this directory bind, now I guess I'll have to try it out.
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+1 for directory bind.

Switching primary storage

IDK if someone asked this already but is there a way to make sd card the primary save location instead of phone storage? I have a 32gb card and even though its much easier now to transfer files when hooked up to cpu I still prefer to save things to my card then decide what to keep on my phone storage.....

No it's not possible. Apps MUST be stored in the internal memory, which is one of the most talked about issues with the newer Samsung phones. You can only store your pictures and videos taken by the camera in the external memory.
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MMakoto said:
No it's not possible. Apps MUST be stored in the internal memory, which is one of the most talked about issues with the newer Samsung phones. You can only store your pictures and videos taken by the camera in the external memory.
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it's not an, 'issue' with Samsung phones, it's a jelly bean 'issue' and there are workarounds like link2sd and other apps that do this for you... I'm not installing every 2gb game on the playstore on my phone so I haven't run into memory problems, yet. lot of people given ill advice
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re: swap internal sd to external sd
kharyb said:
IDK if someone asked this already but is there a way to make sd card the primary save location instead of phone storage? I have a 32gb card and even though its much easier now to transfer files when hooked up to cpu I still prefer to save things to my card then decide what to keep on my phone storage.....
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It is possible to swap internal sd to external sd with a cwm/twrp flashable zip file mod.
Here is the link to the thread, it will say Galaxy S3 but it also works on other phones
but since the S4 is so new right now, the OP did not update his thread.
It should work on our Galaxy S4 too and it cannot hurt anything to try it.
It does not format the internal or external sdcard and it does not delete any files.
Here is the link where you can get a lot more information about it and download it
if you decide to give it a try: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772234
Good luck with it.

Misterjunky said:
It is possible to swap internal sd to external sd with a cwm/twrp flashable zip file mod.
Here is the link to the thread, it will say Galaxy S3 but it also works on other phones
but since the S4 is so new right now, the OP did not update his thread.
It should work on our Galaxy S4 too and it cannot hurt anything to try it.
It does not format the internal or external sdcard and it does not delete any files.
Here is the link where you can get a lot more information about it and download it
if you decide to give it a try: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772234
Good luck with it.
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What are the dangers of doing this?

The dangers are that if you try it you will not be able to return to this thead and report if it works or not. Many have tried, but ALL have failed! None have come back to tell about it! (as you can see, I have not yet tried it, but if I don't respond again, you will know that I did finally try it)
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[Q] A few questions about this phone

Hey guys, i bought my Galaxy Grand a few days ago and i'm a bit confused with some things.
First of all, i really need to root my phone to move large apps to my SD card?
There is any side effect of using the method mentioned before in this forum? (ext2int if i'm not wrong)
Now i'm using a small sd card (4gb, but i'm going to buy a 16gb class 10 soon), if i change my internal storage to use my sd card i'll still be able to install things into the phone memory?
Could someone point out a tutorial please.
And about rooting, i saw to methods here in the forum, wich one is the best?
There is any difference between the firmware for GT - I9082 and GT - I9082L when trying to flash a pre rooted one?
Last question, i tried the epic citadel benchmark in my phone and a lot of artifacts showed up in my screen, it is a problem with my phone or its application fault?
Thanks in advance.

i rooted mine right after it arrived. i did not use ext2int after all. i find it rather confusing that i cannot replace my sd card.
i am finde with the internal memory. even after installing some bigger games. so i cannot comment on the advantages disadvantages.
i can tell you to not take the 9082L versions if you are having a 9082 phone.
the rooting method in this forum works fine and is not harming your phone.

snudel said:
i rooted mine right after it arrived. i did not use ext2int after all. i find it rather confusing that i cannot replace my sd card.
i am finde with the internal memory. even after installing some bigger games. so i cannot comment on the advantages disadvantages.
i can tell you to not take the 9082L versions if you are having a 9082 phone.
the rooting method in this forum works fine and is not harming your phone.
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4gb ins't much when some games are larger than 2 gbs, thats why i'm asking about it...
What about epic citadel? Anyone else is experiencing graphical problems?

l4mb22 said:
Hey guys, i bought my Galaxy Grand a few days ago and i'm a bit confused with some things.
First of all, i really need to root my phone to move large apps to my SD card?
There is any side effect of using the method mentioned before in this forum? (ext2int if i'm not wrong)
Now i'm using a small sd card (4gb, but i'm going to buy a 16gb class 10 soon), if i change my internal storage to use my sd card i'll still be able to install things into the phone memory?
Could someone point out a tutorial please.
And about rooting, i saw to methods here in the forum, wich one is the best?
There is any difference between the firmware for GT - I9082 and GT - I9082L when trying to flash a pre rooted one?
Last question, i tried the epic citadel benchmark in my phone and a lot of artifacts showed up in my screen, it is a problem with my phone or its application fault?
Thanks in advance.
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1.Yes, your phone HAS to be rooted to move apps.
2. NO side effects, just swaps your int and ext memory so i reccomend a 32 gb ext sd card.
3. For example,In large games, the data will be stored in android/data which is in the phone memory. But after swapping, your phone memory size will be of the size of your sd card, so no issue of space.
4. Rooting- USE CHOTU'S GUIDE(SEARCH THE FORUM)
Rom- k2wl or balli's rom(SEARCH THE FORUM).
PLS HIT THANKS IF I HELPED!!!

athulpmenon said:
1.Yes, your phone HAS to be rooted to move apps.
2. NO side effects, just swaps your int and ext memory so i reccomend a 32 gb ext sd card.
3. For example,In large games, the data will be stored in android/data which is in the phone memory. But after swapping, your phone memory size will be of the size of your sd card, so no issue of space.
4. Rooting- USE CHOTU'S GUIDE(SEARCH THE FORUM)
Rom- k2wl or balli's rom(SEARCH THE FORUM).
PLS HIT THANKS IF I HELPED!!!
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You mentioned two roms in your answer, do i need to flash one of those or can i just flash de Su binaries + CWM and install super su?

May I answer you? He suggested the 2 deodexed roms if you are interested on flashing mods. Just having root is enough for using ext2int or titanium backup for example but you need deodexed to use mods.
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snudel said:
i rooted mine right after it arrived. i did not use ext2int after all. i find it rather confusing that i cannot replace my sd card.
i am finde with the internal memory. even after installing some bigger games. so i cannot comment on the advantages disadvantages.
i can tell you to not take the 9082L versions if you are having a 9082 phone.
the rooting method in this forum works fine and is not harming your phone.
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I wanna ask, since 3+ Gig free space for games + apps. If I mounted sdcard and install apps+games, will it goes to external sdcard? Because new phone up to Galaxy Note 2 will not having the features move to sd. Plus, for that particular phone, internal memory is not a problem as they having at leave 11Gig.

jasonkhoo87 said:
I wanna ask, since 3+ Gig free space for games + apps. If I mounted sdcard and install apps+games, will it goes to external sdcard? Because new phone up to Galaxy Note 2 will not having the features move to sd. Plus, for that particular phone, internal memory is not a problem as they having at leave 11Gig.
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Use GL to sd apps from playstore.. Latest version works supports upto android 4.2.2
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[Q] How to move app data to sd and save internal memo?

Hello fellow s4miniers
I have just moved from a bad experience with iphones to galaxy s4 mini I updated to kitkat and rooted it. The main issue I hated about the phone is that when you choose the move to sd for apps and games options, it only moves the app itself but not the large app data files.
For example, I got Need For Speed with 2GB of data still stuck in the internal memory while the sd is useless in this concern even when I move the app to the sd. The app large data files stay in the internal memo. This really bugs me . who has this problem too? Is there a solution for it? :-\
S4 mini I9195 Android 4.2.2 rooted.

jihadinhorocks said:
Hello fellow s4miniers
I have just moved from a bad experience with iphones to galaxy s4 mini I updated to kitkat and rooted it. The main issue I hated about the phone is that when you choose the move to sd for apps and games options, it only moves the app itself but not the large app data files.
For example, I got Need For Speed with 2GB of data still stuck in the internal memory while the sd is useless in this concern even when I move the app to the sd. The app large data files stay in the internal memo. This really bugs me . who has this problem too? Is there a solution for it? :-\
S4 mini I9195 Android 4.2.2 rooted.
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its not a problem ! .. all phones has this glitch its an android thing that data has to be on internal sd or phone not eXT-sd .. there is some scripts like link2sd and others that can help but i dont know how search on your own

rrgrrg said:
its not a problem ! .. all phones has this glitch its an android thing that data has to be on internal sd or phone not eXT-sd .. there is some scripts like link2sd and others that can help but i dont know how search on your own
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I tried Link2sd and still it does not solve the issue it only moves the app but not the large data files. there are custom firmwares that make your device read the eXT-sd as internal and internal as sd but none of them is available for my model. Besides, these CFWs are glitchy and not stable and slow the phone big time. Nevertheless, this lends androids more useless to me compared to iOS in this concern.

jihadinhorocks said:
I tried Link2sd and still it does not solve the issue it only moves the app but not the large data files. there are custom firmwares that make your device read the eXT-sd as internal and internal as sd but none of them is available for my model. Besides, these CFWs are glitchy and not stable and slow the phone big time. Nevertheless, this lends androids more useless to me compared to iOS in this concern.
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you could try gl to sd https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slf.ListglApp&hl=en_GB

I like folder mount to move directories to extsd
sent from my i9192 with CM11 by sekil

Folder Mount let you choose directories (you can choose the big ones) to move to external SD, as said fburgos. I had 3 games with 2GB each, all in external SD, and had 2 GB of free space in internal memory.