Develop Bugs

[Q] Would rooting with Odin prevent OTA updates?

Hey, I was wondering if only rooting my phone ( I still have the stock rom ) would prevent my phone from receiving OTA updates? My wife and I bought our phones at the same time, mine was even activated first, and her OTA update, which includes the wifi calling, came tonight, and I haven't seen mine.
So I was just curious if it is still going to come eventually, or if I need to just flash the updated version of the stock rom? Thanks

You will get the update regardless of what rom or recovery or rooted or unrooted.
Now in order to install it ota you need stock rom and stock recovery though. If you rooted and installed cwm recovery then you need to flash stock recovery.
If your rooted. On stock rom. And stock recovery(like I was) then no worries just install away.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk

clninja said:
You will get the update regardless of what rom or recovery or rooted or unrooted.
Now in order to install it ota you need stock rom and stock recovery though. If you rooted and installed cwm recovery then you need to flash stock recovery.
If your rooted. On stock rom. And stock recovery(like I was) then no worries just install away.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly my set up... Thanks for the information
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium

4.0.4 Update with Root and Custom ROM?

Alright, so my phone isn't on 4.0.4 yet, and I was wondering if it would be safe to update it even though I have a custom ROM installed. The ROM I'm using is Blazer ROM EL29 v4.0, if it makes any difference.

Exdero said:
Alright, so my phone isn't on 4.0.4 yet, and I was wondering if it would be safe to update it even though I have a custom ROM installed. The ROM I'm using is Blazer ROM EL29 v4.0, if it makes any difference.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What are you asking? Do you just want to jump to ICS?
You can use sfhub's one-clicks to get to stock rooted FF18 (the latest OTA version). With sfhub's one-clicks you can try the 'no data' version (to preserve your user data) but you may experience some wonkyness. If so use his 'reset data' to just completely start fresh. Then use sfhub's Autoroot package to add a custom recovery - CWM+Agat_safe kernel.
You can then use CWM to install what ever ROM you choose - as long as you read AND FOLLOW the developers recommendation for installing their ROM.
Nearly all of the ROMs are so polished and reliable you really can't go wrong with any of them Try them out and see what works best for you. The devs here are all pretty awesome.

I was on blazer 4.1 before jumping to ics too. I used format all zip and flashed blazer ics in recovery. I then flashed agats latest kernel right after. I believe blazer ics was using an older version of agats kernel.
Don't forget to flash the ff18 modem if you want it.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA

I was wondering if I could just apply the update, without using Calkulin's Format All. Like, if I were to apply the update without removing the ROM I have installed at the moment for 2.3.6. I'm not worried about a ROM for 4.0.4, just whether or not I could apply the update to my phone as is.

If you receive the ota update and try to install it, it will fail. Blazer ROM has changes to the system files that will cause it to fail. If you are on a custom ROM, there's no point in dealing with ota updates. The dev of the ROM will update it anyway.
If you want ics and rooted, then follow what leader said above. I was just saying since you were already on blazer, the blazer ics is a great ics rom.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA

Exdero said:
I was wondering if I could just apply the update, without using Calkulin's Format All. Like, if I were to apply the update without removing the ROM I have installed at the moment for 2.3.6. I'm not worried about a ROM for 4.0.4, just whether or not I could apply the update to my phone as is.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well sounds like your trying to 'save some time' by not going the full wipe route or the other one I suggested - use sfhub's FF18 One-click 'preserve data' (which by the way is like an OTA update they - Sprint/Sammy release interneally) and then seeing if your data keeps/is intact and there are no issues. Then adding CWM via his Autoroot.
IF you use the above method you have a very good chance that your data will be intact and you will then be able to 'move it forward' to other ICS ROMs.
From there you can flash the 'Modified_Calkulin_Format_All' which keeps data then flash the latest Blazer and see how that settles in and if you have any issues.
I've used this method on no less than three devices and all worked and worked well.
OR
You can try the 'fast way' [with which you may still end up having to do a complete 'reset data' Odin flash anyways if it tanks]
Use CWM to install the latest modem of your choice (FH13 has been great for me and many others).
ThenTry using Calkulins Modified Format (keeps you 'data') And after that flash the latest ICS Blazer.
Good luck.

[Q] Need Root

Ok so i decided to do the update on the tmobile samsung s3, lost root and tried to do the zedomax method.that didnt work, tired a couple other method. they didnt work either. i dont know what to do.... phone is working fine but i cant get Odin to push cwm, i keep getting failed on the cwm install. i truly read all and researched and anything else im having issue understanding. can someone make a video or help on another method that worked for them.

Follow the guide how to root without tripping flash counter over at the development thread. Once your stock and rooted. Download ROM man anger and flash recovery from there. Forget about flashing cwm through Odin . Do it this way it always works.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2

how can i root my phone is i need a recovery. right?

Gregory.u317 said:
how can i root my phone is i need a recovery. right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You will need
-ODIN
-Install-able ROM package mentioned above
or
-ODIN
-Custom recovery
-Install-able SuperSU (Root)
-Triangle Away

Gregory.u317 said:
how can i root my phone is i need a recovery. right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. You need root first if you follow that thread I was telling you about. But the cool thing is when you use Odin following the thread I told you. After your phone reboots you will find superuser that means root. Then you can flash recover through rom manager. Just make sure to put any ROMs you want to flash on your internal SD card and not the external. When you flash a ROM you will be rooted. Custom ROMs that is.
Pm me if you need more help
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2

It worked and i figured it out. had to read it over like 5 times but i got it thanks...
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium

I wanted to root also. Im on stock with latest update. So let me make it clear: (Im a total noob spending the whole last night to learn about rooting)
First, I do this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687 .
Ok so now I have rooted stock with latest update. It will wipe my sd card, correct?
Next, I go to Google Play to download Rom Manager. then flash CWM recovery. (I want to root because I want backup)
I heard the official tmo JB is coming soon. I suppose I will not be able to update through Kies with my phone rooted, right? so what is the best way to update to JB? thanks guys

rookiegenius said:
I wanted to root also. Im on stock with latest update. So let me make it clear: (Im a total noob spending the whole last night to learn about rooting)
First, I do this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687 .
Ok so now I have rooted stock with latest update. It will wipe my sd card, correct?
Next, I go to Google Play to download Rom Manager. then flash CWM recovery. (I want to root because I want backup)
I heard the official tmo JB is coming soon. I suppose I will not be able to update through Kies with my phone rooted, right? so what is the best way to update to JB? thanks guys
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup you are right. Follow what you typed and your into the promise land. As of now some people are lucky enough using voodoo root keeper from market but some aren't. When they try to re root custom recovery isn't sticking. Just wait a couple days. I'm sure devs will have a full rom with latest jb patch included.
Sent from my SGH-T999

chrisram88 said:
Yup you are right. Follow what you typed and your into the promise land. As of now some people are lucky enough using voodoo root keeper from market but some aren't. When they try to re root custom recovery isn't sticking. Just wait a couple days. I'm sure devs will have a full rom with latest jb patch included.
Sent from my SGH-T999
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what do you mean by "custom recovery isnt sticking"? it is CWM recovery flashed to the recovery partition, isn't it? Also I'm pretty confused. after rooted, can I still do factory reset in the usual way? (go to settings/reset)

Yea some people updated the leak jb and lost root. They then tried and root again and were successful but when trying to flash cwm thru Odin, the recovery wasn't sticking so when they boot into recovery it would only be stock recovery. IF you still have root and wanna grab the jb leak wild just released jb update so go grab it and flash away.
Sent from my SGH-T999

Can't update OTA my rooted AT&T S3

I know this is a nook question but could the fact that I am rooted with clockwork mod recovery be preventing my update?
I download the OTA update and reboot recovery and start the update then it says something about could not update do to signature or something like that.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app

Because you are rooted it wont wont. It requires the stock samsung recovery to apply that update OTA. So either you put the stock samsung recovery and then apply that OTA update, or you download the CWM flashable version of that update thats available in the other forum. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896773
Im assuming you mean the AT&T LH9 update
Dixit

Actually, root has nothing to do with it. Its all about the stock recovery.

Right but most of these folks who are rooted will have done so by flashing CWM and then injecting the root zip or flashing a rooted rom. But yes it doesnt have anything to do with the root itself, it fails because the recovery isnt the stock recovery.
Best option for him would be to use the CWM flashable one I linked.

How cod I flash back the stock recovery and will I lose root if I do?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app

If you apply the OTA update via the stock recovery then yes you will lose root. There is a thread that has the stock recovery image file you could flash back. But again, if the LH9 is the update you looking for, then why not just use the CWM flashable ZIP on the thread I linked earlier? You are not giving much specifics if that is the update you are attempting to apply.
Dixit

I'm not sure which update it is I just know I was prompted to download an OTA update and it failed. I have not had the time I used to with my s1 to keep up to date with all that's going on with rooms and stock updates and what not. By the way what is the most stable roms out there right now? I would like to try a jelly bean Rom if they have any, also don't want to lose any features of stock.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app

Question about rooting with odin

I recently took the ota update to 4.1.2 mb1 and lost root. My question is can I use odin to flash [ROM|Stock Rooted] 3/3/13 Sprint Touchwiz Jelly Bean 4.1.2 (L710VPBMB1) Odex/DeOdex? And If so do I use the full ROM odex? And Do I have to flash anything besides the ROM? Or can I keep everything else stock?

Monoclypsus said:
I recently took the ota update to 4.1.2 mb1 and lost root. My question is can I use odin to flash [ROM|Stock Rooted] 3/3/13 Sprint Touchwiz Jelly Bean 4.1.2 (L710VPBMB1) Odex/DeOdex? And If so do I use the full ROM odex? And Do I have to flash anything besides the ROM? Or can I keep everything else stock?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey there buddy, welcome to XDA (I see this is your second post).
Anyways, do you still have a custom recovery? I'm assuming you don't, since it sounds like you went all the way back to stock unrooted in order o get the update (in the future, Freeza typically has the update for Root users a week or so after the OTA release, so no need to go back to stock unrooted).
Anyways, back to your current situation. Since you most-likely have the stock recovery, you'll have to go back to being rooted with either CWM or TWRP (I prefer TWRP, but they're both good). I personally use mskip's toolkit, it's fairly straightforward. You could also follow qbking77's rooting method. He does a good job explaining how to root. Samsung hasn't locked their bootloader and don't try to in their updates, so these rooting methods stand the test of time (and updates).
Once you have a custom recovery installed (or if you already have one installed), FIRST THING to do is perform a nandroid backup. THIS IS KEY. Once you have one done, go ahead and flash Freeza's Stock Rooted ROM. I'd recommend doing a clean flash, as it's the best way to minimize the chances of errors and bugs. Just wipe system and cache and dalvik cache, and then flash the downloaded ROM. And speaking of downloading, be sure to check the md5 sum of the download before you flash. Most problems with the stable ROMs here on XDA stem from bad downloads.
You can also check out other ROMs. I won't go too crazy on advertising here, but scroll through these two sub-forums, Android Development and Original Android Development. I've enjoyed most ROMs I've tried.
Hope this helps!

ok
topherk said:
Hey there buddy, welcome to XDA (I see this is your second post).
Anyways, do you still have a custom recovery? I'm assuming you don't, since it sounds like you went all the way back to stock unrooted in order o get the update (in the future, Freeza typically has the update for Root users a week or so after the OTA release, so no need to go back to stock unrooted).
Anyways, back to your current situation. Since you most-likely have the stock recovery, you'll have to go back to being rooted with either CWM or TWRP (I prefer TWRP, but they're both good). I personally use mskip's toolkit, it's fairly straightforward. You could also follow qbking77's rooting method. He does a good job explaining how to root. Samsung hasn't locked their bootloader and don't try to in their updates, so these rooting methods stand the test of time (and updates).
Once you have a custom recovery installed (or if you already have one installed), FIRST THING to do is perform a nandroid backup. THIS IS KEY. Once you have one done, go ahead and flash Freeza's Stock Rooted ROM. I'd recommend doing a clean flash, as it's the best way to minimize the chances of errors and bugs. Just wipe system and cache and dalvik cache, and then flash the downloaded ROM. And speaking of downloading, be sure to check the md5 sum of the download before you flash. Most problems with the stable ROMs here on XDA stem from bad downloads.
You can also check out other ROMs. I won't go too crazy on advertising here, but scroll through these two sub-forums, Android Development and Original Android Development. I've enjoyed most ROMs I've tried.
Hope this helps!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, just out of curiousity... Before I took the OTA i was rooted 4.1.1 stock with stock recovery. Is there any way to do it the same? The method I used before was this [HOWTO] [ROOT] No Tripping Flash Counter [SPR L710VPBLJ7] JB 4.1.1. It was super quick and easy.

Monoclypsus said:
Ok, just out of curiousity... Before I took the OTA i was rooted 4.1.1 stock with stock recovery. Is there any way to do it the same? The method I used before was this [HOWTO] [ROOT] No Tripping Flash Counter [SPR L710VPBLJ7] JB 4.1.1. It was super quick and easy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, that same method should work. I personally like the custom recoveries, but understand your desires to leave it at stock recovery (not triggering the flash counter).
Like I mentioned before, Samsung hasn't (and most likely won't) locked their bootloaders, so any rooting method that has worked in the past should work in the future. Just make sure to read the last 3-4 pages of the thread for whatever method you're trying to use to see if there are any issues. I know an earlier version of mskip's toolkit was having issues with JB for a little bit (it's updated now).

Well I'm gonna give it a shot. Ill let you know how it turns out.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda app-developers app

Just went with cf autoroot. Worked fine.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda app-developers app

I've got a problem I installed the OTA and now I cant boot into android. Its stuck on starting apps. I have the stock recovery. How can I fix this?. What do I do? I can get to ODIN download mode. *edit** can get into safemode too. And I now have a custom recovery installed.
I still dont know what to do from here. How do I flash the downloaded rom because the new file I downloaded seems to be a zip and can only be flashed with CWM not ODIN. I cant place it in the right directory of my phone to do that.

jkj said:
I've got a problem I installed the OTA and now I cant boot into android. Its stuck on starting apps. I have the stock recovery. How can I fix this?. What do I do? I can get to ODIN download mode. *edit** can get into safemode too. And I now have a custom recovery installed.
I still dont know what to do from here. How do I flash the downloaded rom because the new file I downloaded seems to be a zip and can only be flashed with CWM not ODIN. I cant place it in the right directory of my phone to do that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I replied to your thread. I hope it works for what you need.