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i have a new problem that i just figured :S, market wont download for some reason, i think it has something to do with rooting, it opens normally and i start browsing the market, and i download something, it says downloading but it never goes further than that, any info available about that?
hello all, i just bought an HTC desire, and i'm a complete newb when it comes to understanding the technical details of how to get the best out of my O.S
i managed to root the phone using unrevoked, because all i really wanted for now was to save apps on SD card instead of phone memory(very very small phone memory)
and i noticed that most people use an app. called APP2SD or something like that, but most of the instructions had something related to ROMS and stuff like that, and i dont really understand how all the ROMS thing work, so my question is, is there a way 2 install APP2SD directly on my unrooted with original O.S desire (2.1), and without using an SD as a goldcard or something like that( i saw a tutorial where having a goldcard was a must)
i'm very sorry if this a bit too newbie,
thank you.
no, you will have to be rooted for proper A2SD to work, unless you upgrade to froyo, you won't have A2sd, but the froyo a2sd has too many ristrictions on which apps can be moved, it is better off to root your phone and installl a custom rom with proper A2SD....
i meant rooted mobile, my phone is rooted ,what ROMS do you recommend that have a good A2SD and would be effective?
If you're looking for a stock Sense-based ROM then look at LeeDroid. Not used it myself but a lot of people say it's good
If you want Sense and a stable running operating system, go with LeeDroid.
It has APP2SD+ integrated already.
To 'activate' it you have to modify your SD card prior. So on your currently rooted phone you have to install ROM manager from the market. If you open this app, you have an option to partition the SD card. Select it and create a 512MB EXT partition and no swap file/partition. It will reboot your phone, enter the recovery mode, format the whole SD card (so everything will be lost on it), create an EXT3 partition and then it will reboot again to Android. Nothing visible changed yet, except that you lost 500MB free space on your SD card.
After you've done that you can flash LeeDroid. It will automatically detect the EXT3 partition on your SD card and activate APP2SD+. Every app, which gets installed on the internal memory now, gets in real installed on the EXT3 partition on your SD card.
For all this you need root, which you already have.
A Goldcard is only necessary to get root on a branded Desire.
Gold card isn't needed to root a branded phone, it's needed to install an RUU from another vendor code onto your Desire. e.g. flash a WWE ROM onto a T-Mobile device
UpSpin said:
If you want Sense and a stable running operating system, go with LeeDroid.
It has APP2SD+ integrated already.
To 'activate' it you have to modify your SD card prior. So on your currently rooted phone you have to install ROM manager from the market. If you open this app, you have an option to partition the SD card. Select it and create a 512MB EXT partition and no swap file/partition. It will reboot your phone, enter the recovery mode, format the whole SD card (so everything will be lost on it), create an EXT3 partition and then it will reboot again to Android. Nothing visible changed yet, except that you lost 500MB free space on your SD card.
After you've done that you can flash LeeDroid. It will automatically detect the EXT3 partition on your SD card and activate APP2SD+. Every app, which gets installed on the internal memory now, gets in real installed on the EXT3 partition on your SD card.
For all this you need root, which you already have.
A Goldcard is only necessary to get root on a branded Desire.
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that has been Really helpful, thank you!!
you're a life saver!
EddyOS said:
Gold card isn't needed to root a branded phone, it's needed to install an RUU from another vendor code onto your Desire. e.g. flash a WWE ROM onto a T-Mobile device
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Can I root my o2 froyo branded HTC desire and use the apps2sd+ alone to installs apps on my SD card without using a custom Rom.
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i have a new problem that i just figured :S, market wont download for some reason, i think it has something to do with rooting, it opens normally and i start browsing the market, and i download something, it says downloading but it never goes further than that, any info available about that?
This is a general problem atm and it's not based on rooting. Google should fix the market next days (hoping that).
madmido said:
i have a new problem that i just figured :S, market wont download for some reason, i think it has something to do with rooting, it opens normally and i start browsing the market, and i download something, it says downloading but it never goes further than that, any info available about that?
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I had that problem yesterday, but it is fixed now, only 1/2 apps still not working.
sent from the dark side
it's still not working (the market) till now, is there a solution for that, i only want to download the friggin ROM Manager, to start toying with the thing..VERY frustrating really!..
UpSpin said:
If you want Sense and a stable running operating system, go with LeeDroid.
It has APP2SD+ integrated already.
To 'activate' it you have to modify your SD card prior. So on your currently rooted phone you have to install ROM manager from the market. If you open this app, you have an option to partition the SD card. Select it and create a 512MB EXT partition and no swap file/partition. It will reboot your phone, enter the recovery mode, format the whole SD card (so everything will be lost on it), create an EXT3 partition and then it will reboot again to Android. Nothing visible changed yet, except that you lost 500MB free space on your SD card.
After you've done that you can flash LeeDroid. It will automatically detect the EXT3 partition on your SD card and activate APP2SD+. Every app, which gets installed on the internal memory now, gets in real installed on the EXT3 partition on your SD card.
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I follow your recommendation. Run ROM manager, then go to Partition SD, 512 Kb, 0 swap, then say Ok to reboot anв format but then ... nothing is happend - phone is rebooting and look with exclamation sign and green android forever... How long should I wait for the card (8Gb) to be formated?
I have the HTC Desire on Telus.
I have Apps2SD installed, as well as Android 2.2. Currently I am unrooted but was rooted before and the same issue.
I can move some applications to the SD card, but not all of them. Also its only part of the application. I am still running out of space all the time.
Am I missing something, how do you install and run an application from the SD card?
Root. Youre using stock a2sd which doesnt fully move the app to the sd so it still uses storage space. Root and a2sd+ is what youre after
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As I said in my post, I was Rooted before, still didn't install the full application and cache and everything to sd.
Well if you rooted but didn't partition your SD card for A2SD+, then you did nothing extra.
Root > partition SD card > reinstall ROM
Link to the instructions on how to do it exactly, make sure I do it correct this time around.
Thanks.
So I did that, you can only partition the SD card as 512MB, which is clearly the same as internal memory. Also, the applications still only move some of itself over to the sd card.......
I can't use Gparted for reasons, is there another program that does the same that works with windows?
Anyone....really......come on....
MiniTool Partition Wizard (google it) works under Windows and can create ext3 partition SD Cards. It's the only one i found that actually works, and it's free.
As an alternative, you can instal ROM Manager on your phone and use it to create ext3 partition, although it's limited to 512MB.
Thanks for that application.
So I formatted my SDcard, reinstalled the rom and I still have only 114MB free, and 2GB missing from my SDCard now...WTF
Yeah, but data will be stored on ext3 partition so you will be able to install more apps. I now have 200mb of apps, and still have 40% free in internal memory.
The new Adobe Flash update increases the already ludicrous amount of space this app takes up on your phone. Was 10.96MB, now 11.29MB.
No Froyo move to SD.
Can someone please give me instructions from start to finish on how to do this because clearly I'm doing it wrong, I have 114MB internal free with fresh install.
Just install applications, you'll see they now take way less space in phone memory. You won't see that partition as available space.
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Would still be nice to have instructions for next time.
And so your telling me there is no point to making a 2GB extra partition, since you can't move the apps fully over, that's what I thought, and this was a waste of time.
Instructions can be found all over the xda forums...seriously its not that hard to find..u need a rooted phone, a ROM that supports A2SD and an ext2 or ext3 partition on ur sd-card.
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Evil_Cid said:
Instructions can be found all over the xda forums...seriously its not that hard to find..u need a rooted phone, a ROM that supports A2SD and an ext2 or ext3 partition on ur sd-card.
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Yea, these forums are bloated with topics and new posts every 5 seconds, its hard to find anything. And I found a tutorial or 2, obviously I did it wrong.
So a direct link, or a new step by step would be great. Everyone is acting like its easy, so shouldnt be hard to write a quick step by step or give a link..lol
bmancell said:
Yea, these forums are bloated with topics and new posts every 5 seconds, its hard to find anything. And I found a tutorial or 2, obviously I did it wrong.
So a direct link, or a new step by step would be great. Everyone is acting like its easy, so shouldnt be hard to write a quick step by step or give a link..lol
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Okay....what ROM are you using? Stock 2.2 only supports Google's way of moving Apps (i.e. moving some of it and leaving the rest behind). Even with rooting, the stock ROM WILL NOT move everything to SD. So you need a new ROM which will support the A2SD feature.....so selecting a new ROM (even a modified version of the stock one) would be your first step. Make sure this ROM has support for A2SD or A2SD+....
Edit: If you do decide to make the "full" switch, it is recommended to S-OFF if possible.... I am fairly confident that you are following the right steps but the ROM isn't supporting it.
I am currently running your ROM, the Oxygen v2.0-RC6 Gingerbread ROM. And i dont know what S-OFF is. I am assuming a way to power off.
bmancell said:
I am currently running your ROM, the Oxygen v2.0-RC6 Gingerbread ROM.
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Have you also got a custom recovery? like ClockworkMod (can be found on the Market) or AmonRa (i don't use this).... you will need one of them if you want to enable A2SD with Oxygen ROM. This is because the oxygen ROM, by default, writes app data into the internal memory rather than into any external partitions.
Basically once you create your ext3, you have to boot into the custom recovery and flash this:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2263716/dalv...2SD-signed.zip
and reboot..and that should do the trick.
That's the general summary of the steps. Read the link for more details on partitioning:
Link on SD card partitioning: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910290
EDIT: Put simply, S-OFF (security off) allows you to install custom HBOOT image (such as the one I have..) which give you more space in you internal memory. Alpharev Oxygen HBOOT for example (HBOOT is the bootloader) gives around 337MB as internal space for your apps....which kinda makes EXT3 partitions unnecessary...
You have to be a bit careful with S-OFFing as newer Desire models have new security feature which makes it unsuitable to flash a new HBOOT. Read more about this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853583
Hello,
I am completely new to rooting and flashing and have come across several questions.
I searched the forum but could not find an apt answer.
I installed the iNsertCoin HD found here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861690
As was said on the thread, i created 2 partitions one fat32 and a second ext 3 with 700mb.
After installation, i checked my free phone memory and it was 140mb.
Is there anyway i could install it into my memory card?
I could really use some guidance here.
Previously i was using starburst rom and i think it was installed onto my memory card. Anyhow i had 450mb free memory back then.
Please advice.
I don't know what you're on about? The partition on the SD card acts as the internal memory of the device so although you only see 140MB free this will go down a lot slow than without the EXT3 partition. A ROM can't be run from the SD card
StarBurst uses Data2SD whereas the one you're on now only uses A2SD
Thanks for the quick response.
okay it's clear now.
I was under the impression that the ext3 partition created is to store the ROM.
Thanks again.
No, EXT3 is to store the data, ROM still runs on the device system memory
Hello,
I have come up with another issue.
I flashed the System App Remover Utility for starburst rom found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916417.
After flashing only i realized, its for starburst.
Nw i have lost the quick office, freidns stream etc.
Is it possible to restore them?
please advice.
Hi There,
I Have rooted and S-Off'd my Desire and set for HBoot Stock ROM. Running Custom ROM, but wanted to try RevolutioN v3.0, However I looks like the A2SD+ version is required.
I have read a number of posts on A2SD+, which seems to be a script to run from a terminal session. However there seem to be different ways to install this. Some threads mention "install a custom rom which has support for a2sd+"
Can anyone advise how to install A2SD+? What is the difference with Stock?
I am sure there is a simple obvious answer to this noob question.. but I seem to be missing it.
a2sd means you can store apps on sd instead of phone memory, the stock a2sd does not allow all apps and if you have root you can force more apps to the sd via this way , however i think this way does not extend memory for apps so there is a limit
i use data2sd as i need more space ,you need to partian sd card to do so and flash a script or do some stuff to it
A ROM with A2SD support just has A2SD written into it, as is the RevolutioN you want to use. A2SD is not really something you "install" as such.
As Keith says, you will need to partition your SD card. There are plenty of tutorials on this around the web and on this site. Just do a bit of searching. Best methods to perform this process are an oft discussed issue, but most agree that using a program called GParted is the best way to go. You will need to copy everything from your SD to your PC before you start, as you will need to format the SD. You can reload when done.
THIS should get you started at least. It says to use 512mb partition in Ext3, but you are better off with a 1gig/Ext4. The process is the same. Also, Step5 in THIS thread has a video how-to, that should help.
Happy Australia thread!!
Hello,
I am a noob and I hate myself.
I recently purchased a second hand HTC Desire with Lee Droid on it. Everything was working fine.Then the phone asked my if I wanted to update? I tried to update but it would not work. Then after a while it stopped asking me to update. Then a little while later it was on a start up loop. I took out the SD card and it work but I had no apps, etc.
Now I have a serious problem with internal storage. I did a factory reset (still has the Lee Droid ROM on it) and it shows I have 92mb of internal storage...instead of up to 1GB!
So....I decided to try a few things. After doing a bit of quick reading I decided to go with the original HTC Sense software. In trying to do this I get a 140 bootloader error...so I must be using the wrong ROM?
Getting slightly more frustrated now...
I figured out I had to partition the original SD card again to get it working and that had worked but now I only have 112mb of internal storage using that Sd Card (I had purchased another one when this stopped working). So the internal storage issue still applies. And the main thing with this for me is that apps such as facebook and more will not transfer to the SD card whereas I thought I could do this before? So even to have Facebook on it and upgrade the apps with the phone gives me a 'low memeory' notification.
SO I guess my question is..
Should I just go back to HTC Sense and what ROM do I use?
or
Should I try out a different ROM?
Bear in mind I did not flash the phone originally, and while not a complete computer noob I would be quiet nervous about doing this with out some experienced help.
Everything you need to know is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
As a rough guide:
When you format your card you need an ext partition of say 1gb for app storage space (a2sd). The rest of the card should be fat32. This is to solve your low memory issues.
Download the custom rom of your choice to the fat32 partition of the sd card and boot the phone into recovery (volume down and power button then choose recovery). You probably have clockwork mod recovery or similar. Choose the option install zip from SD card.
Before you do this, in recovery you should wipe the dalvik cache and perform a wipe/factory reset.
Depending on the rom you use you will probably need to download and flash and a2sd script such as darktremour. This will make downloaded apps save to the ext partition automatically rather than to the phone memory.
It is worth doing as much reading up as poss before embarking on this and make sure you have enough charge in your phone when flashing or you might end up with a brick!
As for the choice of rom you need to decide if you want a rom with HTC sense included or an AOSP rom.
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Ok thanks. Do you know any way I can find out which HTC Sense ROM is for my phone?
No matter what I do the internal memory is always lower than 120mb. It should be 512mb max right? I just did a factory reset again and it's at 77mb without any apps installed ot gmail or facebook profiles added! It these any way to fix this first off before I read more into flashing the phone with a different ROM?
Centurionmark said:
Ok thanks. Do you know any way I can find out which HTC Sense ROM is for my phone?
No matter what I do the internal memory is always lower than 120mb. It should be 512mb max right? I just did a factory reset again and it's at 77mb without any apps installed ot gmail or facebook profiles added! It these any way to fix this first off before I read more into flashing the phone with a different ROM?
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Unless u use a2sd,ad2sd,int2sd or some script to move something to your sd partition,
you aren't going to have any more memory.
I think I should really go back to Sense before I do anything else or drive myself mad!
I tried another Sense ROM and it says I need to have my battery over 30pc but it's nearly fully charged!!!
colin_404 said:
Unless u use a2sd,ad2sd,int2sd or some script to move something to your sd partition,
you aren't going to have any more memory.
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But I had more internal memory before. How do I install these?
And how can I find out what Sense ROM is for my phone?
I have downloaded the app 2 sd and done the sdk thing...
but it still does not solve my internal memory issue and why was it so big before on a rooted phone? The phone is still rooted. So it should be the same? Do I need to get my SD card to count as internal storage somehow. Any links?
Centurionmark said:
I have downloaded the app 2 sd and done the sdk thing...
but it still does not solve my internal memory issue and why was it so big before on a rooted phone? The phone is still rooted. So it should be the same? Do I need to get my SD card to count as internal storage somehow. Any links?
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The guides for installing the customs roms u download r probably in the rom thread where the rom came from.
If it says ur battery is < 30% then u r using a RUU and u will need the correct one for ur phone.
Or use the 2.3 Ruu upgrade for Desire from HTC/Dev.
I think this is your best solution - CM7 which is a great rom without HTC sense.
If you have not created your ext partition yet do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932824
Then flash this rom:
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=bravo&type=stable
Installation instructions for the rom are here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum-36/announcement-23-cyanogenmod-72-released-2012-jun-16/
Then install S2E from the play store. This includes an a2sd script and has tick boxes to chose what to send to your SD ext partition.
Then you are done
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hans moleman said:
I think this is your best solution - CM7 which is a great rom without HTC sense.
If you have not created your ext partition yet do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932824
Then flash this rom:
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=bravo&type=stable
Installation instructions for the rom are here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum-36/announcement-23-cyanogenmod-72-released-2012-jun-16/
Then install S2E from the play store. This includes an a2sd script and has tick boxes to chose what to send to your SD ext partition.
Then you are done
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OK...a friend did the following:
Updated my android because I was still on 2.2
Updated the root to Andreev
Installed Ice Cream Sandwich...the current BETA I think...which works fine but lately the phone freezes sometimes
First I thought you were on about memory to SD swap apps on the market so I did a bit of reading. I installed S2E but cannot or do not know how to get it working. It asked me to install something else which kept giving me a 'cannot respond' message.
I tried to install A2SDGUI as per some guide but it says that either my phone is not rooted, I do not have an EXT partition or A2sd scripts are not installed.
I tried to install EXTions on both my SD cards both manually using partition software and using ROM Manager. They both show up as having a regular FAT32 partition, and EXT one and a Linux one. They still do not work.
I have tried using various different partition softwares and my head is in a spin form them and different guides. I cannot get Gparted to work, how do I get the Image from the download or install it on my PC?
I also think I have moved my Dalvik Cache to my original SD card and not the phone tells me I have 141mb free internal memory but I get 'insufficient space' messages when trying to download apps or update them. Since I did this, even when putting on my manual SD backup from my new SD card back onto it I get messages saying 'app does not exist, even on the Play Market one. Play Market works fine on the original SD card which I think I have moved the Dalvik cache to.
There is also no nandroid backup on the new SD card as I get an error message...
Please please please someone help me. All I want to do now is get more internal memory and have everything working with my new 4GB SD card in the phone. Thanks to everyone who posted links to guides but I am still getting to terms with some of the terminology and may need guides to do some of the things that are listed in the guides. As it is now I cannot download any new apps. When the phone was rooted to Ice Cream Sandwich I could only download about 3 apps and cannot update youtube, maps, google, mail, etc.
Centurionmark said:
OK...a friend did the following:
Updated my android because I was still on 2.2
Updated the root to Andreev
Installed Ice Cream Sandwich...the current BETA I think...which works fine but lately the phone freezes sometimes
First I thought you were on about memory to SD swap apps on the market so I did a bit of reading. I installed S2E but cannot or do not know how to get it working. It asked me to install something else which kept giving me a 'cannot respond' message.
I tried to install A2SDGUI as per some guide but it says that either my phone is not rooted, I do not have an EXT partition or A2sd scripts are not installed.
I tried to install EXTions on both my SD cards both manually using partition software and using ROM Manager. They both show up as having a regular FAT32 partition, and EXT one and a Linux one. They still do not work.
I have tried using various different partition softwares and my head is in a spin form them and different guides. I cannot get Gparted to work, how do I get the Image from the download or install it on my PC?
I also think I have moved my Dalvik Cache to my original SD card and not the phone tells me I have 141mb free internal memory but I get 'insufficient space' messages when trying to download apps or update them. Since I did this, even when putting on my manual SD backup from my new SD card back onto it I get messages saying 'app does not exist, even on the Play Market one. Play Market works fine on the original SD card which I think I have moved the Dalvik cache to.
There is also no nandroid backup on the new SD card as I get an error message...
Please please please someone help me. All I want to do now is get more internal memory and have everything working with my new 4GB SD card in the phone. Thanks to everyone who posted links to guides but I am still getting to terms with some of the terminology and may need guides to do some of the things that are listed in the guides. As it is now I cannot download any new apps. When the phone was rooted to Ice Cream Sandwich I could only download about 3 apps and cannot update youtube, maps, google, mail, etc.
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I forgot to mention I also installed the a2sd scripts in the Terminal but still no joy.
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I forgot to mention I also installed the a2sd scripts in the Terminal but still no joy.
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Most of the scripts will show your internal storage as normal, then report a a2sd partion.
The only two that report your internal AND est partion as one block are data2sd, and the ammurlez script. Both of these are flashable with Lee Droid, but afterwards. If you did a factory reset this would restore your Lee Droid ROM but wipe your data2sd or ammurlez script. This is why before updating anything, or flashing a new zip CWM backups are your friend.
Just "factory reset" it again, this DOES NOT" change your hboot or SD partions, then flash the ammurlez or data2sd scripts. Your phone will be as before reporting 1gb internal memory.
Or......play with all the awesome ROM and script possibilities on this forum till you find a setup you love......speed versus storage, sense versus aosop versus mui etc.
Most peoples signatures list their setup, try em all!
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The gparped image needs to be burned to cd rom. Just google how to do it. Then boot your pc with the cd in the drive and gparted will load up.
If you follow the guide I left earlier methodically step by step using the actual rom suggested it should work. Please note S2E only works on CM7 or CM9 roms only.
If try CM7 and don't like it you can flash something else after but at least you will have everything working and also gain an understanding of the steps you need to go through to do it.
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