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Hi,
I have a HTC Desire Z and I'm currently using the Vision Sense 1.82.405.1 Untouched ROM. I'm also thinking of trying out other ROMs, particularly those that are based on Gingerbread (though I admit I don't fully know what advantages Gingerbread has over Froyo).
I'm generally happy with the phone as it is now, but my main gripes are its speed - it lags noticeably sometimes - and battery life - I get about a day at most, and by that I mean from the time I wake up to the time I sleep, not 24hrs).
Are there any comparisons/writeups on what the various ROMs offer, and how they're different from one another?
Thanks.
I'm running Blackdroidmod 3.3.0 with stock Radio, set the governer @ Interactive min 386mhz and max 1016mhz and I'm using LauncherPro (plus) instead of the stock/ADW launcher. I love it and I reach 20 hours easily with moderate usage.
(2~ 4 calls/day, average of 10 texts, lots of whatsapp messages and activesync @ 2 accounts + 2 x pop3 accounts polling every hour, fb polling every 15 mins, weather sync every 2 hours, some gaming and listening to mp3) and it's always smooth (806mhz max is enough if you don't use multiple apps at the same time).
It's stable and everything works right away from the first time I flashed it. CM7.0 is good... but isn't very stable in my opinion and misses some applications while Blackdroidmod looks a bit like Sense.
goister said:
Hi,
I'm also thinking of trying out other ROMs, particularly those that are based on Gingerbread (though I admit I don't fully know what advantages Gingerbread has over Froyo).
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Really not much, if you are a Sense fan. Google fixed a bunch of aesthetic/theming stuff, and improved the keyboard. Most of which is moot, since HTC themes mostly override the theme changes, and HTC uses their own keyboard. There may be some performance improvements or bug fixes. But in running both Froyo and GB ROMs, I didn't notice much performance difference. This might be due to the fact that most of the current Gingerbread ROMs are ports from other phones, or based on the leaked Desire Z test ROM. But I have not tried the recent G2 (no Sense) leaked test ROM, which is supposed to be pretty fast.
HTC Sense really slows down the phone, so a move to any ROM without Sense will probably improve your performance. Alternately, the lag you are noticing is probably due to the Sense launcher, which seems to be a CPU and memory hog. Try another launcher, like ADW or Launcher Pro, and you will probably find it improves performance quite a bit. You will lose the HTC widgets, but retain some of the nice HTC features, like the camera.
Getting a "waking day" (charge overnight) out of a modern smartphone is pretty normal. Of course, it completely depends on how much you use your phone. But with moderate use, I have yet to get more than a day, on various ROMs and radios. I can get 24 hours+ on very light use. What is your screen brightness set to? The screen brightness is actually one of the biggest battery drain culprits. If its on auto, turn that off, and reduce the brightness to the lowest setting you find usable/tolerable. Mine is on 35%. Just going from auto to a lower setting can improve battery life quite a bit.
If you like sense, I've found the battery life on the Trollogen Mod 0.9.1 to be SPECTACULAR. So far it's given me the best battery life out of all the ROMs I've tried. That includes Virtuous with the advanced kernel and multiple SetCPU profiles and the stock Gingerbread ROMs.
I tried running the battery down last night at a friends place for laughs and left music running on Wi-Fi with full brightness. I was constantly turning the screen on and looking at websites and so forth and by the time I got home (6 hours later) it had only just hit 67%. What's surprising is I didn't need a custom kernel or to modify it with SetCPU
Wow, 3 replies, 3 different suggestions. This is gonna be tough...
So far I've only heard of Virtuous, GingerVillian and Cyanogenmod, never heard of the others.
Oh I forgot to mention I'd like something that's stable as well, I've noticed things crash/reload quite a bit currently.
Trollogen is still a beta but its fairly stable as far as I can see. But if stability is really an issue you should stick with virtuous and install a new kernel on it.
My suggestion for a stable rom would be Virtuous with the advanced kernel. With 1.0.2 OCed to 1.3GHz and stock battery,i got about 16hrs of life with moderate use. Replaced with mugen 1800mAh and now can get 20hrs with moderate use and 30hrs with light use.
Havent used CM or TGM yet, but SenseGinger goes have some bugs in it which turned me away before. I would probably stick with a Froyo release until the official 2.3 rom gets released by HTC.
Happy flashing
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Lately there have been so many new ports, it's hard to keep up...but I do! (But mostly with Sense) Flash something new very night, but I always keep coming back to virtuous 1.0.2 with advanced kernel 2.2.0.
Everything just works, always (except HTC calendar widget disappears after a reboot, for some reason). Very speedy for sense, and being able to overclock pushes it into a winning position for me versus the gingerbread sense roms.
Xboarder56's stock gingerbread worked pretty well for me while I was on it for a couple of days. Worth a try!
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OK, thanks. Perhaps I'll try Virtuous. Are there any step by step guides to flash Virtuous ROM into my Desire Z, and what's the advanced kernel 2.2.0? Don't all Android use Linux kernel 2.6.x?
Thanks again.
Edit: OK I assume the Advanced Kernel 2.2.0 is what's found in the Virtuous kernel 2.x page here.
What if I want to install a Gingerbread kernel? I see there's a Gingerbread folder here with either glite or sense. What are these?
Both Virtuous G-lite and Fusion have OC kernels and shouldn't have to flash a new one on install. Just have to get SetCPU or CPUTuner to enable the OC, both up to 1.5GHz.
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OK, thanks. Perhaps I'll try Virtuous. Are there any step by step guides to flash Virtuous ROM into my Desire Z, and what's the advanced kernel 2.2.0? Don't all Android use Linux kernel 2.6.x?
Thanks again.
Edit: OK I assume the Advanced Kernel 2.2.0 is what's found in the Virtuous kernel 2.x page here.
What if I want to install a Gingerbread kernel? I see there's a Gingerbread folder here with either glite or sense. What are these?
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G-Lite is a Gingerbread ROM, with no Sense. Fusion is a port of Gingerbread (from another phone), with Sense 3.0. Sense 3.0 has some cool new features, but the launcher takes up most of the phone's memory (our phone is not meant to run Sense 3.0, and we won't be getting it "officially" for this reason). Just about every time you go back to the launcher home, it needs to reload the launcher, which is annoying. There are also some graphical glitches. So I found Fusion fun to play with for a while, but I'm back on Froyo, probably until the official Sense ROM for our device is released (and a rooted version is posted here).
If you want Sense, stability and usability, the "original" Virtuous is probably what you want. Its easy to install. You can download straight in ROM Manager, and flash from there. You might not have to do a full wipe, since you are coming from a stock Froyo Sense ROM. But if you have any issues, you should probably wipe (dalvik, cache, and data) and flash again. Also, do a nandroid/clockwork backup of your current ROM, before you flash Virtuous, in case you have the need or desire to return to your current setup. ROM Manager will give you the choice to backup the current ROM when you go to flash Virtuous.
Virtuous comes overclocked to 1 GHz by default. The advanced kernel gives additional overclocking options (up to 1.51 GHz), that's all. Advanced kernel pretty much requires you to setup screen-off profiles with SetCPU (or similar app) or you will (AFAIK) almost certainly have issues with the screen waking. So you might not want to mess with it, and to stick with the default/included kernel, unless you are really interested in OC speeds over 1 GHz.
The Virtuous Gingerbread kernel allows overclocking of G-Lite and Fusion. They can't be used with the "regular" (Froyo based) Virtuous. Vice versa is also true.
But really, there isn't a whole lot that Virtuous actually gives you in addition to stock. You can flash the Godspeed kernel on the stock ROM, if you want to overclock. Virtuous also has trackpad wake, which is very cool. But again, you can do this mod on the stock ROM. So modding the stock ROM to your liking may be another option.
The insertcoin rom is another half way house option. It is Sense 2.1 based with some 3.0 bits added.
It is still a bit more memory intensive than stock, but it does have the very cool lockscreen, which is one of my main reasons for sticking with it. That and the CRT animations always keep me happy.
I have been using it as my daily driver for a while now.
Does G-Lite is a stable rom for G2 ?
Im searching for a stable, overclockable Rom based on 2.3
I read about CM7, and looks with so many issues on gps, etc..
Does G-Lite is stable and gps, bluetooth, youtube, etc works ?
Also, I need a tip, or a feature. I need to use a Rom (or chance any config) to put the Navigator voice on Brazilian Portuguese.
CM have this, but with the problems on GPS.
Any ideia ?
If you want something other then a Sense Rom. You could try meXdroid. It is stable and fast. It is a Gingerbread Rom (2.3.4) I have been using his roms for a while now. The dev and his team theme out the rom. Here is a link to meXdroid rom with screen shots. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886184
I dont like sense.
Im searching for a stock android rom.
pyromod 2.0 with smartass...1.5ghz and great batt life
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angusbrasil said:
I dont like sense.
Im searching for a stock android rom.
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meXdroid is not a Sense Rom. It just has a theme. Look at the link in the post above. You can see a few screen shots of the Rom there. You can overclock meXdroid to 1.5 ghz also. You really don't need to though. It is fast at 800 mhz. I know Quadrant does not mean a lot but at 800 mhz my scores are 2500+ and at 1.2 ghz my scores are 3000+.
it wasnt the ghz i was impressed by it was tje batt life to go with it...but ill try to post in the right section next time..lol..sorry
pimped out g2
smokeuout said:
it wasnt the ghz i was impressed by it was tje batt life to go with it...but ill try to post in the right section next time..lol..sorry
pimped out g2
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Oh no no. My post was not to say anything about your post. I was just stating as you did that meXdroid can overclock also. You can post here all you want. This is a question in the Q&A section not in the meXdroid thread. Your all good. Have a good one.
hey alright...it was the right section...lol..no im new to posting so im still learnin the areas and such...b seriously PYROMOD 2.0
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What do you all think is the fastest Rom and Kernel together? Just leave a comment saying which is better for the Arc S!
It's up to you to make your decision... I'd suggestion you go ahead and try all sorts of different combos. Ultimately your the one using the phone not us. What might be fast for someone might not be to you.
Cheers.
In my opinion, DiMiui or MIUI-G(and most of the other Gingerbread MIUIs).
Hmmm thanks Any other opinions people?
I do agree with ArmorD,
MIUI ROMs are quit fast but Cyanomod is something else!
weel, regarding ICS, I've been trying several in the past month. KA is fast but in my opinion misses something at the first touch after some inactivity.
Now I'm trying BoostHD, which seems to be fast as well.
But keep in mind thaqt speed is not only speed and responsiveness, but also user interface simplicity: i.e. how many touch you need to open the "send sms to your friend" or to call your mother.
I'm running CM 7.2.0, DooMKerneL and V6 SuperCharger. I have also removed about ten of the pre-installed systemapps that I dont use, and I have no window animations. My system is incredibly fast and I basically don't have any loading times whatsoever.
Xperia Arc
Im using Arconium ICS official with stock kernel and is pretty fast(even than stock gingerbread), I cant complain... No Lag, smooth
Arc S
Hi ,
I have a question . How Can i make my dhd faster ? The game order and Chaos is laggy :-(
How Can i pimp it to 1,5ghz ?
Flash a good rom. The rom make a huge difference. Try Miui or cyanogemod. But the best thing are the new ics roms, that are the fastest at the moment.
Try revolution HD 7.4, its gb and very fast, can clock to 2 gig (I wouldn't though) I usually sit somewhere between 1.1 and 1.5, runs soooo fast, ics roms can be a little laggy with some games at this stage.
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And a lot of the ics rooms have camera issues...
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Lord clockan's ICS is the best out there if you just want to do gaming due to the latest libs and structure but if you're concerned about camera and all that then you should get a non sense GB rom because sense GB roms take up a lot of memory, causing force closes
Try to use a rom for DHD And Not Ported from other phone and usually try a light one like cm7 or miui even ics rom are very good but lack the camcorder i would suggest AOSP
xsid26 said:
Hi ,
I have a question . How Can i make my dhd faster ? The game order and Chaos is laggy :-(
How Can i pimp it to 1,5ghz ?
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The fastest Rom is cm7 for me, and more beauty and useful are ARHD and xxxPacha s3.5 like s4.0.
Or you can use -
Check out "AnTuTu CPU Master (Free)" - https : //play.google. com/store/apps/details?id=com.antutu.CpuMasterFree
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The fastest Rom is cm7 for me, and more beauty and useful are ARHD and xxxPacha s3.5 like s4.0.
Or you can use -
Check out "AnTuTu CPU Master (Free)" - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.antutu.CpuMasterFree
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bestedw judah
flash CyanogenMod rom
For GB AOSP , try BlackICE ROM.
For ICS, only tried Lord's AOKP ROM.
Issues with games on ICS ROM if any might be down mainly into 2 possibilities. Either it's the ROM or the game/app not compatible with ICS itself.
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you could install miui 2.4.20 (its gingerbread 2.3.7) very stable, you could add a lordmod kernel 8.6 CFS,
depending on your battery needs , you could set up the governer to performance, would give great performance but more battery drain.
Firstly, make sure the ROM you have installed onto your phone is not bloated with loads of crap and has a good kernel and libraries. Cyanogenmod 7.x is a good Gingerbread ROM to have installed, which has the bonus of being widely supported. If you are feeling more adventurous you can try MIUI or an Android 4.x ROM.
After you have a good ROM installed, you can then play around with overclocking tools. Note the ramifications of overclocking and how it works should be understood before doing this, otherwise you can shorten the life of your CPU etc.
Doing some research on Google and these forums is the biggest hint I can give you. Knowledge in anything technology related is a useful tool indeed when it comes to getting the best out of your computers and devices.
use a program caled 'System App Remover' to remove programs you do not need as they severely bloat the phone full of junk, which will slow it down, but obviuously, be careful what you are deleting etc.
For me, just a very small list of what I remove, as I do not use the apps are:
Facebook + any facebook widgets
Twitter + and Twitter widgets
Live wallpaper + Live wallpaper picker
Shelf Widget
Bookmarks Widget
Weather Widget
.....and LOADS more, that I personally have zero use for.
This, plus overclocking the CPU by a small amount...1.2-1.3Ghz makes the phone FLY, no matter what Rom I use.
Matt
Hello all, im searching for a Jb (or ics but i would like to try jb) that can give me overall speed and smoothness, stability, no force closes of apps because of the lack of ram,no compatibility issues and no problems with buttons on emulators. I use my xperia play mostly for emulators and general use and i dont care about running latest games ... im not completely satisfacted about general use of stock. 71 gingerbread that im running now and i would like to try something good based of yours experiences. Thanks everyone
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Reiven89 said:
Hello all, im searching for a Jb (or ics but i would like to try jb) that can give me overall speed and smoothness, stability, no force closes of apps because of the lack of ram,no compatibility issues and no problems with buttons on emulators. I use my xperia play mostly for emulators and general use and i dont care about running latest games ... im not completely satisfacted about general use of stock. 71 gingerbread that im running now and i would like to try something good based of yours experiences. Thanks everyone
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We can't help you find a ROM these thread always get closed because there isn't one ROM that suits everyone, like I'm running pacman right now but I might decide to with slimbean v5 and my own tweaks to it or I might ftf back 2.3.4 GB for gaming its basically trial and error on what you want and what you like
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Just one question why do you want to upgrade to Jelly ?
Thank for answering, i would like to upgrade to jb because i would like to have the latest features and to use apps that arent compatible with gb, since i dont use phone for heavy gaming but just emulators i would like to know about experience of users who are on jb, im not asking for the best rom available like other people do, but i just asked about wich rom is more suitable for my use since i only need system smoothness, no force closes and no problems with buttons in emulators
Also i dont really like the memory management of gb on stock and customs, i have occasional force closes and with ram tweaks the situation is worse
Thanks again
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Reiven89 said:
Thank for answering, i would like to upgrade to jb because i would like to have the latest features and to use apps that arent compatible with gb, since i dont use phone for heavy gaming but just emulators i would like to know about experience of users who are on jb, im not asking for the best rom available like other people do, but i just asked about wich rom is more suitable for my use since i only need system smoothness, no force closes and no problems with buttons in emulators
Also i dont really like the memory management of gb on stock and customs, i have occasional force closes and with ram tweaks the situation is worse
Thanks again
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For me I searched for a uptodate ROM that have good performance and a good look so there might be better performing ROMs but whitout a nice look (if you want goo performance you need to give up from the look, for me I searched for a balanced roms good look good performance).
If you really want all the new stuff I suggest you to go with Jelly ROMs.
I currently have Miui v5 3.8.16 with dolby which is a very nice ROM Google now works perfectly many features great look and feel, but it's not the best with games (it's acceptable, it's worth for 1 try).
There are some great performing ROMs with different look like there is the: Xperia Z Jelly Bean withe a nice Xperia Z look.
If you prefer the stock android look then CM10.0 FreeXperia Project it's updated every weak or so, very good performance lot of customization ( there is this Project Jellyzeu which is stopped, same stock jelly bean as cm 10.0 but whit out the cm features, this is pure stock very good performance.),
If you would try ICS ROMs I suggest you ICS Original nice Sony ICS look and good performance too.
You should try Cm10 free xperia project. Actually this is the best one for me. I have tested alot of JB roms and this is my guard for now. Stable and smooth UI (you can try use Pure audio and PurePerformances pack's,and the ROM is flying away! - search at Android Software and hacking general development) at newset build FXP237 touchpads are not working,but at 235 works.
Thanks for sharing your experiences with various jb and ics roms,i will try them, also i would like to know, does jelly bean and project butter makes the difference on overall speed and smoothness than ics on our device? If you want, everyone who upgraded or who revert to gingerbread can post his experience and impressions and tell me if its happy or no after upgrading to ics or jb/reverting to gb
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i tried many ics and jb roms here and after a while everytime i reverted back to stock based roms and now finally again to real stock with my own mods.
in games performance in jb and ics was the same for me. daily usage is smoother in jb but ics has the touchpads so for me in focus on gaming CM9 was the right one.
i reverted back go GB in the end because generally it was slower everywhere. GB is snappy, you tip the finger, the action happens. i have so much stuff installed and the heaviest games still run as on the first day.
even emulators. i use retroarch mostly and pcsx runs just perfectly under GB - one of the most problematic games colin mcrae rally 2.0 runs beautifully. under ics / jb the gpu drivers are not that good and refresh rates aren't reported right - results in some kind of stuttering. can be fixed but not perfectly.
or compare crazy taxi or most wanted (with opponents and heavy stages -> hint to reviewers here who just show a single lap without anything on the street) - they lag like hell under ics or jb - perfectly fluid on GB - this is the deal breaker for me. definitely.
Interesting, i didnt know about stuttering, i tought that the updated adreno drivers will let gpu gain more 3d performance, anyway with jb there are problems with touchpad or even with gamepad? Jb kernel supports unlocked data partition? Personally i ve tried some ics roms but i finded a bit heavy and laggy in general use then gb so i returned on gb, have to try if project butter makes really the difference, jb should be an improvement over ics
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I bought an Xperia T that runs on jelly bean.... its horrific I removed over 100 preinstalled apks and it still idles at 350mb RAM usage
My desktop pc dosnt even use that much. the battery only lasted 5 hours max. and there's no solution for the locked bootloader
I chucked that thing in one of my draws and bought a second hand Play
With my Xperia mini pro I was a big fan of cm7
But with the play I couldn't get the touch pads to work (need for modern combat 4 if anyone knows how to fix that id love to know)
So I tried gin2jellybean ROM with lupus kernel (think its gingerbread that looks like jellybean)
battery's awesome (24 hours still on 95%) touch pads work,
There are some things id like to change and I miss allot from cm7 but overall very happy with it :good:
Rom decision
The best rom really depends to your taste.
I suggest that you try to read the roms on our android development and choose what do you need and like.
Also it is better on gb but for ICS and JB you will need too focus on gaming or looks.
At the moment I am using Nexplay by Cyberscopes and currently observing it.
Overall the best rom will really depends on you.
Use xplay Honami rom by smokerman... Fastest ics rom I've ever used...
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Try Gin2jellybean then. I know its on GB but its very fast, it has so much free RAM and it has JB look and feel. Thanks to being on GB it has no compatibility issues, all buttons work and playing on this Rom is awesome experience
Sorry if my reply offended you (I know you wanted Rom on JB) but this is very interesting option.
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Warning: This is not a question. And if i posted it on wrong thread, let me know and i will delete it. Finally i apologize for bad english.
I have used my xperia play for 1.3 years and i tried many roms. For gb roms, i tried NXT 1.3, NXT 2 r1, DiXperia 2 & 3, AuroraPlay 2.0, xElite Gamer 2.0, Gin2KitKat 3.1.0, Atomic GB 7.1(by Sewer56lol), and some outdated gb roms. However they dont satisfy me. For Nxt 2 r1, gta vc lags but ppsspp smooth, and for auroraplay, gta vc smooth ppsspp lags, same goes to other gb roms. About ICS roms, i tried many too except cm9 & cm10 based, i like ICS roms because many features and looks nicer but i won't use it for more than 1 month because the gaming performance is very poor and gamekeyboard is very unstable on ICS roms. I have returned to stock rom(.58 enhanced v3) once and the performance is very good but the ui looks very ugly. So after some use i went to ICS roms and then to gb roms. Now im lost and i cant decide which rom i should use and now im thinking about return to stock rom again but i have no knowledge about theming stock rom or change the framework of stock rom. So im stuck in the roms and i guess im pretty much bored of the roms and the device itself.....But im sure i won't sell my xperia play because its epic gamepad and im not rich enough to get newer phones
I've had the xperia play for almost 3 years here, and i can totally relate to your arguments. Gaming performance being poor on ics roms and the GB and JB roms having an uglier ui. It's been stated that GB works the best for gaming. However for ICS and GB, if you're facing terrible lag which gets to the point where your games are unplayable then you should do something about it. I'm not sure if there's a way to completely get rid of the lag on the xperia phones but what i did was install some tweaks such as 'Liquid Speed' and 'Pure Performances' which did the trick for me . That being said, there are a lot more tweaks than the ones i mentioned but i am using these 2 and even though i'm using the rom xperia z express ics, most games barely lag
PS: The gamepad works fine for me, so it must be the rom you're using
I wish you luck
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Warning: This is not a question. And if i posted it on wrong thread, let me know and i will delete it. Finally i apologize for bad english.
I have used my xperia play for 1.3 years and i tried many roms. For gb roms, i tried NXT 1.3, NXT 2 r1, DiXperia 2 & 3, AuroraPlay 2.0, xElite Gamer 2.0, Gin2KitKat 3.1.0, Atomic GB 7.1(by Sewer56lol), and some outdated gb roms. However they dont satisfy me. For Nxt 2 r1, gta vc lags but ppsspp smooth, and for auroraplay, gta vc smooth ppsspp lags, same goes to other gb roms. About ICS roms, i tried many too except cm9 & cm10 based, i like ICS roms because many features and looks nicer but i won't use it for more than 1 month because the gaming performance is very poor and gamekeyboard is very unstable on ICS roms. I have returned to stock rom(.58 enhanced v3) once and the performance is very good but the ui looks very ugly. So after some use i went to ICS roms and then to gb roms. Now im lost and i cant decide which rom i should use and now im thinking about return to stock rom again but i have no knowledge about theming stock rom or change the framework of stock rom. So im stuck in the roms and i guess im pretty much bored of the roms and the device itself.....But im sure i won't sell my xperia play because its epic gamepad and im not rich enough to get newer phones
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Use MIUI v4 ICS.. it gives u good theme options.. Touchpad/Gamepad works amazing.. am on it at the Moment.. with Turbo Kernel 3.1.1 which gives 400mb space. you should try it out for sure.. I use it with 256mb Swapfile. no scripts and it works good enough.. for sure with scripts would work even better.. I overclock it at max 1ghz.. never more..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2077280