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So I have done a few updates to OS, form stock ROM to CM6.1 RC3, RC4 Stable, and Pershoot's kernel. All of these have I have done a Nand Back up which stores to my SDCard. Well my 8GB card is sitting not to pretty at 714MB right now. I don't have much in there, and pretty much removed all my music.
So the question are:
* What is the best way to manage these backups so that I can save them, but not clutter up the sdcard?
* I saw a folder in my sdcard that had some backups, but they did not account to 2GB each or any where near that. Where should I look?
Really looking forward to a solution to this, otherwise my sdcard is basically rendered useless due to system upgrades/updates.
Thanks in advance for your help
You can save the backup files to your computer and then delete them from your SD card.
If you ever want to take a stroll down memory lane, then simply make some room on your SD card and transfer the backup to the card and restore via recovery or ROM manager.
As far as the missing memory goes, do you have a lot of camera pictures or video?
gee one said:
You can save the backup files to your computer and then delete them from your SD card.
If you ever want to take a stroll down memory lane, then simply make some room on your SD card and transfer the backup to the card and restore via recovery or ROM manager.
As far as the missing memory goes, do you have a lot of camera pictures or video?
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Gee one...no, not many pic s or videos. Before making any backups I was somewhere around 7.4GB or so. I did have alot of music which I removed once I started making backups due to lack of space.
Edit: I found the location of the backups and saved them to my pc. Thanks! I thought it was a bit more involved than that!
these backup files are stored in the /clockworkmod/ directory on your SDcard, not the backup one.
I only keep a few backups on my device - one that I made as soon as I'd rooted - it's stock, and then the one that I made before I make any changes to my phone (flash updates, etc)
IMO, there's no need to keep multiple backups of the same ROM
the orange bandit said:
these backup files are stored in the /clockworkmod/ directory on your SDcard, not the backup one.
I only keep a few backups on my device - one that I made as soon as I'd rooted - it's stock, and then the one that I made before I make any changes to my phone (flash updates, etc)
IMO, there's no need to keep multiple backups of the same ROM
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Yeah, that's what I did.
I found them under /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/ and I kept only the original from stock and the final one, but I also made a backup of the stock rom one.
I now have 4.1GB available on my card, up from 714MB.
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just spent an hour trying to find a way to do this and no such luck. i've read that clockworkmod recovery, when doing a factory wipe does not wipe the /sdcard but i still would like to be able to make a backup.
I've tried simply doing a copy/paste but windows refuses to even attempt it. even trying to do one folder at a time gives me issues. i've resorted to using airdroid for all my file transferring needs.
But using airdroid, even trying to do a backup, it eventually goes so slow that it fails. I have 4Gb of data i want to backup, and eventually it just stops transferring. i could do it one file at a time but honestly i don't feel like spending hours.
so does anyone know of any program, or possible easy way, that won't take days, to backup the /sdcard
You could always use cloud storage. Sugarsync gives you 5GB for free. Also, you could try running an FTP server app on your phone and then connect to it from your computer. I've used FTPServer in the past and it has been pretty quick to transfer lots of data.(https://market.android.com/details?...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImx1dGV5LkZUUFNlcnZlciJd)
yeah, i've thought of that, my internet at home isn't that great though. 6Mbps down, 1Mbps up. so cloud storage hasn't worked that great for me in the past, but maybe i'll give that ftpserver a shot.
BTW, i would like absolute confirmation that if i choose Wipe data/factory reset in CWMR Touch 5.504 beta 3 it won't erase any of the data on /sdcard.
as i've read, any CWMR won't erase the sdcard partition, but doing that through ICS, will.
Isn't CWMR 5.5.0.4 the non-touch version? I was using 5.5.0.4 and I can confirm that "Wipe Data/Factory Reset" does NOT erase anything on /sdcard, but I haven't actually done it in any other versions.
Hmm... what about using terminal/adb shell to build a .tar(.gz) of /sdcard and just copy that over to your PC?
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Hmm... what about using terminal/adb shell to build a .tar(.gz) of /sdcard and just copy that over to your PC?
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sounds like a good idea if possible. correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't that allow you to use adb to restore all of your sd contents as well?
palisaide said:
Isn't CWMR 5.5.0.4 the non-touch version? I was using 5.5.0.4 and I can confirm that "Wipe Data/Factory Reset" does NOT erase anything on /sdcard, but I haven't actually done it in any other versions.
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idk, mine has touch. not sure when/how i updated to it though. good to know that it doesn't though. thank you.
rsync backup for Android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871307
Since you're on Windows, you would need to setup an SSH server. People in that thread have done this. A Linux desktop would make things a tad easier though.
This is how I backup the microSD on all my phones.
neok44 said:
sounds like a good idea if possible. correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't that allow you to use adb to restore all of your sd contents as well?
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I believe so. You'd of course have to find some other folder on your internal storage (not /sdcard) to store the tarball while it's being created.
Or heck, adb should be able to do it all for you:
Code:
adb backup -shared -noapk -nosystem
*should* (according to adb help output) backup your /sdcard to "backup.ab" in the current directory
Code:
adb restore backup.ab
*should* then restore it.
Also, checkout "adb backup"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
Allows you to set a flag to include shared content (the microSD). You could probably get it to backup just shared content.
so i've gone through my whole sd card trying to figure out exactly how much data really needs to be backed up, and it's not much. biggest thing ist he 1.5GB CWM backup. everything else is pretty tiny.
so i'm thinking of giving the cloud a try.
are there any that anyone can recommend? I'm hoping for one that i'll be able to choose what folders to backup and have it automatically do it at a time that i set.
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so i've gone through my whole sd card trying to figure out exactly how much data really needs to be backed up, and it's not much. biggest thing ist he 1.5GB CWM backup. everything else is pretty tiny.
so i'm thinking of giving the cloud a try.
are there any that anyone can recommend? I'm hoping for one that i'll be able to choose what folders to backup and have it automatically do it at a time that i set.
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I like dropbox + the DropSync app - best two-way cloud sync I've found yet.
Assuming you can get an MTP connection with your pc then try copying across the sdcard folders 1 at a time to back them up. First time I tried to back up the entire contents in a single go it seemed like it was stalled but it was actually just trying to work out how long it would take before starting and probably would have succeeded if left long enough. Copying the android folder and sometimes stall a copy so do that last.
Alternatively if you dont want to use cloud storage (which would take quite some time depending on upload speeds) you could try the backup option in my ToolKit which uses the latest version of adb and will give you an option to include internal storage in the backup file. Just make sure to check the backup file size after it completes as that function is a bit buggy in adb and has been known not to restore everything such as pictures and music so copy across what you can before starting.
Mark.
Thanks to both of you. I was able to do files one at a time and get them over. and luckily nothing was that big, except for the CWM backups. freaking 1.5GB, that alone is the reason why i wish i had a 32GB phone.
good to know that the toolkit has that option. i'll be sure to use that if i ever need to do a full backup in a hurry.
The dropbox dropsync solution sounds interesting and i'm gonna give that a try. basically i'm just trying to make sure my backup files from apps that don't use cloud syncing will be secure in case something ever goes wrong. with having only 13Gb in the phone i'm keeping most of my big stuff like movies in a 32gb microsd that i'm connecting with an OTG cable.
Although I don't think the tone of the first line of your OP is conducive to soliciting help, I'll thought in my two cents anyway.
The contents of your sdcard is located in /data/media. If you connect your phone to your PC, and open a command prompt in the same directory as your ADB.exe file, the following command will copy everything from your sdcard to your PC in a folder called sdcard_backup:
adb pull /data/media /sdcard_backup
Although not speedy by any means, I've successfully backed up over 8GB this way.
before i went to 4.2, i was using CWM and each backup usually only took up about ~1 gb of space.
now im using TWRP since it seems to work better with 4.2 and was recommended with 4.2, and backups are almost 2gb each.
i dont have much more than i did before. and this eats up SO MUCH SPACE on the internal SD i can only leave one backup on my phone, whereas i could have 2-3 backups before.
I;m not planning to jump back to cwm because its a huge hassle to to change recoveries. but is there anything i can do to downsize it? or save to my external SD and still have it working?
Ive tried backing up to external sd with bad results before.
Thanks for any help
Did you take the blobs folder in account when looking at the size of the CWM backups? I'm sure I'm over simplifying here, but CWM takes a 'snapshot' of your system on the first backup, and then only backs up things that have changed from then on, even if you delete the first backup. It makes things quicker for sure and since it only backs up changes, the backups are smaller too as they share some data. TWRP does a full backup each time. I use TWRP, but do miss the quick backups that CWM gave me.
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Did you take the blobs folder in account when looking at the size of the CWM backups? I'm sure I'm over simplifying here, but CWM takes a 'snapshot' of your system on the first backup, and then only backs up things that have changed from then on, even if you delete the first backup. It makes things quicker for sure and since it only backs up changes, the backups are smaller too as they share some data. TWRP does a full backup each time. I use TWRP, but do miss the quick backups that CWM gave me.
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Yep, you are correct! That "blobs" folder is an extremely evil and deceiving... Its HUGE. I like TWRP because it backs up everything in one shot, so I can pull back ups off my phone and save them on my computer for "just in case." Can't do that with CWR....
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Yep, you are correct! That "blobs" folder is an extremely evil and deceiving... Its HUGE. I like TWRP because it backs up everything in one shot, so I can pull back ups off my phone and save them on my computer for "just in case." Can't do that with CWR....
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You have the option of doing a nandroid backup the old way in CWM. You just have to change the backup format and it will backup without the blobs folder. It's how I do it.
Enable compression on TWRP. Takes a bit longer but can usually decrease the size around 30% or so.
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Merry Christmas everyone!
For Christmas I gave myself a new ROM (4.4.2 KitKat ala CM11 Nightlies.) I've been a weekend tweaker/hacker for some time but the last two or three years, due to 'playing/fixing' sucking too much time, I decided to stay stock (just rooted.) However, too many questions/uncertainties surrounding the 4.3 OTA, I decided to say bye bye Samsung & AT&T with your control freak measures and your bloat. So far, first 24 hours, I am SO happy. My phone is SO much faster on CM11, love the KitKat features, huge improvement in battery life (may be because I selectively restored only a portion of my apps.), etc. I thought it would be hell going with a custom ROM due to battling the bugs but so far it's been smooth sailing (knock on would). And I LOVE that my interface is now consistent with my Nexus 7. I think I'll be a CM user for life unless I go to a Nexus phone in the future.
When I installed CM11, I did a Factory Wipe/Reset of Data and Cache (via CWM.) I could swear I had like 9GB of the internal storage free. Since installing CM11 and latest GAPPS I now have only 4GB on free internal storage. And I only restored about 60% of the apps of previously had (restored via Titanium Backup). Considering CM11 has less bloat, I'm wondering what happened to my free internal storage. Could there be a lot of files leftover that were not erased? Where should I look or what tool should I use. Already tried using Clean Master - no significant improvement.
After further thought... where is the 'Nandroid' backup I made with CWM stored? I don't see it on the external SD card so I'm guessing that's the culprit and I need to move it off the internal SD on preferably onto my PC. Just need to locate it. The begs the question, if I did a Nandroid backup, then a wipe, obviously the wipe doesn't delete the Nandroid backup - so where does CWM hide it?
Happy Holidays!
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Merry Christmas everyone!
For Christmas I gave myself a new ROM (4.4.2 KitKat ala CM11 Nightlies.) I've been a weekend tweaker/hacker for some time but the last two or three years, due to 'playing/fixing' sucking too much time, I decided to stay stock (just rooted.) However, too many questions/uncertainties surrounding the 4.3 OTA, I decided to say bye bye Samsung & AT&T with your control freak measures and your bloat. So far, first 24 hours, I am SO happy. My phone is SO much faster on CM11, love the KitKat features, huge improvement in battery life (may be because I selectively restored only a portion of my apps.), etc. I thought it would be hell going with a custom ROM due to battling the bugs but so far it's been smooth sailing (knock on would). And I LOVE that my interface is now consistent with my Nexus 7. I think I'll be a CM user for life unless I go to a Nexus phone in the future.
When I installed CM11, I did a Factory Wipe/Reset of Data and Cache (via CWM.) I could swear I had like 9GB of the internal storage free. Since installing CM11 and latest GAPPS I now have only 4GB on free internal storage. And I only restored about 60% of the apps of previously had (restored via Titanium Backup). Considering CM11 has less bloat, I'm wondering what happened to my free internal storage. Could there be a lot of files leftover that were not erased? Where should I look or what tool should I use. Already tried using Clean Master - no significant improvement.
After further thought... where is the 'Nandroid' backup I made with CWM stored? I don't see it on the external SD card so I'm guessing that's the culprit and I need to move it off the internal SD on preferably onto my PC. Just need to locate it. The begs the question, if I did a Nandroid backup, then a wipe, obviously the wipe doesn't delete the Nandroid backup - so where does CWM hide it?
Happy Holidays!
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Yea same thing happened with me, usually the cwm backups are located in an emulated storage. Happy Holidays to you too!!!!
UnknownTroll1 said:
Yea same thing happened with me, usually the cwm backups are located in an emulated storage. Happy Holidays to you too!!!!
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Bingo. As expected. Had to startup ES File Explorer, enable root explorer, do some more digging, and found it in Data/Media/clockworckmod
Moved to SD card then to PC. 3.6GB freed.
I was a little distraught though to see in the data directory, lots of folders for old apps that are no longer on the phone. The CWM Wipe functions don't get rid of this stuff. So essentially is the only option to browse all the folders and make your own decision on what can go? Possibly a lot of work for little return though unless you do a folder list by total filesize?
jazee said:
Bingo. As expected. Had to startup ES File Explorer, enable root explorer, do some more digging, and found it in Data/Media/clockworckmod
Moved to SD card then to PC. 3.6GB freed.
I was a little distraught though to see in the data directory, lots of folders for old apps that are no longer on the phone. The CWM Wipe functions don't get rid of this stuff. So essentially is the only option to browse all the folders and make your own decision on what can go? Possibly a lot of work for little return though unless you do a folder list by total filesize?
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Yea some of the crap in there, not really sure why its just thrown into random folders.
When on CM 11, /data/media/ is the directory for the original sdcard (what you saw when on Touchwiz) and the 0 is the emulated storage for CM 11. If you backup to the internal, your backups can be in
/data/media/0/ or /data/media/. As said before, all the other folders and files are left over from before putting CM 11 on.
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When on CM 11, /data/media/ is the directory for the original sdcard (what you saw when on Touchwiz) and the 0 is the emulated storage for CM 11. If you backup to the internal, your backups can be in
/data/media/0/ or /data/media/. As said before, all the other folders and files are left over from before putting CM 11 on.
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Are you saying anything not in the /data/media hierarchy can be deleted?
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Are you saying anything not in the /data/media hierarchy can be deleted?
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Edit: The best answer is no. The other partitions like /system/ are crucial for your system even being able to boot.
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Is it possible to clone Fire TV's with ClockWorkMod?
I have to set up a bunch of Fire TV's for family and it would be much easier to set one up, create a system image and then clone it onto another Fire TV.
Is this even possible?
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Provided the nandroid backup/restore functions are working properly in CWM for this device; that should not be a problem.
The "clones" would need to be rooted have CWM. Probably should back up at least the first device you try this on (just in case the other backup from other device does not work) But either way as long as you don't overwrite recovery you can just reflash whatever rom you were running before trying
All you need to do is pull the images from nandroid backup made on device A and push them to devices B,C,D,etc. Then just do an advanced restore on the clones. Restore system, boot, and data.
Haven't got a spare AFTB to test with, but that's how it's been done on every other device since the first commercial android device to have a custom recovery back in 2008. Don't see any reason it would be any different for this one.
Amazon login might be a slight issue though. You will probably have to sign out before backing up, otherwise you will need to go to your amazon account and deregister all the devices you copied to.
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Provided the nandroid backup/restore functions are working properly in CWM for this device; that should not be a problem.
The "clones" would need to be rooted have CWM. Probably should back up at least the first device you try this on (just in case the other backup from other device does not work) But either way as long as you don't overwrite recovery you can just reflash whatever rom you were running before trying
All you need to do is pull the images from nandroid backup made on device A and push them to devices B,C,D,etc. Then just do an advanced restore on the clones. Restore system, boot, and data.
Haven't got a spare AFTB to test with, but that's how it's been done on every other device since the first commercial android device to have a custom recovery back in 2008. Don't see any reason it would be any different for this one.
Amazon login might be a slight issue though. You will probably have to sign out before backing up, otherwise you will need to go to your amazon account and deregister all the devices you copied to.
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COrrecting my earlier post... this does actually work I just confirmed it however the amount of time it takes to do may actually be longer than manually sideloading all your apks again. Plus it does not backup data so your xbmc build will have to be reloaded after doing this.
You can nandroid it. You will have to unpair the remote from the one you copied and pair its remote. That was the only issue I ran into.
You can also copy over the data directories.
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You can nandroid it. You will have to unpair the remote from the one you copied and pair its remote. That was the only issue I ran into.
You can also copy over the data directories.
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Can you copy over the rooted firmware etc? or does that need to be done before hand. Also how do you get it to copy the data directory? It didn't carry my xbmc files over when I did this.
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Can you copy over the rooted firmware etc? or does that need to be done before hand.
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The second one needs to have Clockworkmod recovery installed, you need to root it first.
Setup everything the way you want it on the first one
Make a nandroid backup and copy it to your pc
Root and install clockworkmod recovery on your second, third, forth units (how ever many you have)
copy the nandroid files over to other units
restore the backup
re-pair the remotes
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You can nandroid it. You will have to unpair the remote from the one you copied and pair its remote. That was the only issue I ran into.
You can also copy over the data directories.
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Thanks, but what's Nandroid?
Neo3D said:
Thanks, but what's Nandroid?
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a clockwordmod recovery backup
danknasty said:
COrrecting my earlier post... this does actually work I just confirmed it however the amount of time it takes to do may actually be longer than manually sideloading all your apks again. Plus it does not backup data so your xbmc build will have to be reloaded after doing this.
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Wait, so when you did a full image backup, it didn't image the apps + apps data? I thought that's what a full system image meant? Like, when you do a full system image of Windows 8, it restores your whole system.
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The second one needs to have Clockworkmod recovery installed, you need to root it first.
Setup everything the way you want it on the first one
Make a nandroid backup and copy it to your pc
Root and install clockworkmod recovery on your second, third, forth units (how ever many you have)
copy the nandroid files over to other units
restore the backup
re-pair the remotes
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What's the location of the backup files? Are there a lot of files to transfer over?
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Wait, so when you did a full image backup, it didn't image the apps + apps data? I thought that's what a full system image meant? Like, when you do a full system image of Windows 8, it restores your whole system.
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If you do a full backup it will get the data partition as well, which will have your apps+data.
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What's the location of the backup files? Are there a lot of files to transfer over?
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clockworkmod directory on the sdcard
Neo3D said:
Wait, so when you did a full image backup, it didn't image the apps + apps data? I thought that's what a full system image meant? Like, when you do a full system image of Windows 8, it restores your whole system.
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When I did it it did not backup the data for xbmc only the app itself. I really don't have much else on my firetv that I use so i can't say if it transferred data for amazon approved apps. All it really did was restore all my apps sideloaded apps etc... somethign I can probably do manually in about 10 minutes or so.