I bought myself Arc S, it came loaded with .62 firmware. On my initial run, battery ran for about a day, later on for two or maybe even three days. Then I started to work in another country. As far as I remember, battery life was the same, even though the network was not (where I work now is 2G only, in my home country 3G). Then one day messed around with a Xperia S apps, did a stupid mistake and started to get force closes with launcher. I had to repair software.
Since the software reinstallation, my battery life degraded to less than a day without even touching it. Therefore I installed Battery Monitor Widget, to see, what is going on. I noticed, that battery drainage is about 70-110 ma in average, as far as I know, it should be much lower (under 30ma?). I have to say, that I tested this with .62, .42 firmware and it's all the same. When I turn phone to airplane mode, energy consumption lowers to under 5ma - which is normal i guess.
It began to bug me even more, as we bought small alarm clock with radio. I noticed, that when this alarm clock is on, despite from 2 other phones our room, my Arc S is the only phone, which makes this kind of searching-for-signal or calling speaker interference (noise coming out of speaker). My phone does that all the time, even in idle mode. This can be also heard when we have our TV on on. So, if I don't want to hear that, I have to unplug the alarm clock or put my phone into airplane, which sucks.
I asked a guy next building, if he has the same problems with Arc S, and he says that his phone can live up to 5 days with one charge (is connected to the same network provider), so I guess it is not network related?
I wonder, is there a possibility, my phone's radio is broken somehow? Or it was faulty, and firmware reinstall somehow broke it to the end? So that is draining battery all the time - looking for signal? Any way to fix this? Flashing different base bands did not help, tried that already...anybody knows a fix for this, apart from returning it to my provider - since I'm 4 months away from my country
Anybody heard for any similar problem with Arc S?
Thanks in advance! (if needed, I can also post battery usage screenshot, but I think it's not much of a help)
lyteo said:
Then I started to work in another country. As far as I remember, battery life was the same, even though the network was not (where I work now is 2G only, in my home country 3G)
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That seems like the issue here if I'm understanding you correctly. If you don't have 3G service where you currently are, and you did not turn off 3G, your phone will constantly try and find a 3G signal.
Airplane mode fixing the issue makes this seem even more likely. Try disabling 3G and see if it helps.
Problem is, that's what I did almost instantly when I came here, I set it to GSM only. One thing I noticed right now, when I check into About phone, under Mobile network type, my Arc S has: UNKNOWN, where my friends HTC says EDGE. Maybe here lies a problem? Why my phone can't detect network type?
Incredibly, I found the reason for my drainage and signal search. When I came into that country where I work now, my provider offered me to turn off data transfer (provider turns it off for me). Of course I did not want any unintended data transfer, so I turned it off by sending sms to service number. After I reinstalled software (that was my first reboot here), phone couldn't find network type for that reason, and was searching for it all the time. Yesterday I allowed data transfer by sms again, phone found EDGE network, can't hear any more noise on our alarm clock and battery drainage is about 4% per 8,5 hour. Excellent
I hope this helps anyone out there with drainage problems.
I think you can also turn off/disable data transfer/traffic with the Data traffic widget, if you want to avoid using data.
xperia arc s
hold up, i dont understand. so im pretty sure i have the same problem. get about 17 hours with berely using my phone on any rom/kernal/firmware. even with data turned off, betterbatterystats shows 'noor unknown signal' and 'no data conection'? i sued to able to get 3 or more days out of my phone??
I think there is an application, which might be keeping the phone alive.
dout it, still drains after a complete rom wipe
I am no the At&t network, I have installed a rom that lets you choose your singnal type. what is the best signal to use for low power consumption but isnt too slow?
theandroidboss said:
I am no the At&t network, I have installed a rom that lets you choose your singnal type. what is the best signal to use for low power consumption but isnt too slow?
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For less power consumption, choose one that avoids LTE, especially if you don't have LTE signal in your area. I use GSM/WCDMA. I get HSPA+ speeds all day long.
If you REALLY want to save power, choose the "2G Only" option... and be prepared to switch it back when you realize how slow it is!
Is there a way to disable cell standby when out of service or at least make it not cheeck so often, my house has spots without signal so standby is ussaly 10% of battery usage.
theandroidboss said:
Is there a way to disable cell standby when out of service or at least make it not cheeck so often, my house has spots without signal so standby is ussaly 10% of battery usage.
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standby is important and cannot be disabled
you can disable your data connection when your in a poor zone manually, just get a widget like power toggles and its a one click button on your homescreen to toggle data on/off
theandroidboss said:
Is there a way to disable cell standby when out of service or at least make it not cheeck so often, my house has spots without signal so standby is ussaly 10% of battery usage.
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Yes, turn on airplane mode which disables the cell standby
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Hello.
Well, so iv tried several things to improve my battery life on our sg4mini. My phone is rooted with custom kernel installed, running official rom. U can see my phone informations in screenshot attached. Im using greenify - the extended version with experimental functions. I hava also removed most of stock - non useful applications via uninstaller app (eg. samsung apps and other). Almost all my current apps r greenified, i left only Viber active cos im communicating through that app. I attached screens with my battery life from a normal-usage-day like: some internet browsing, 9gag and other social network apps. So the battery lasted 15 hours, with like 4h with screen on, so its not that bad i guess(i mean the screen time). Anyways, i got my gps, nfc, smart stay, s beam and other options turned off all the time. i only got data transfer turned on all day long, which means im mostly connected to LTE network. And that, i guess is the reason of such low battery capacity. I got the Vikinger kernel installed cos as i saw several posts about some error in stock samsung kernel i decided to flash some, which may help. SS from Wakelock detector attached aswell. I also installed CrossBreeder cos i found some good opinion about this and improovements it gives.But well, i guess iv done all i could to improve battery life. screen brightness is automatic at -5 status+ energy saving mode is turned on all the time. So i guess the only thing that drains battery that much is this LTE usage. the point is: i dont wanna turn the data transfer off in a daytime cos i constantly use viber to communicate. I was trying to find some app that switches LTE to gsm network but i havent found any proper. I guess that could be the solution because i could still respond to Viber messages with data transfer on, and the phone wouldnt eat so much battery on connecting to networks like LTE. Do you think that could help? if yes, is there any good application - widged preferable- so i can easly and fast switch LTE to GSM when i need to browse internet fast etc? Or maybe is there any better kernel which repairs battery problem.
As i said i dont wanna disable data transfer cos i need it, well, what for did i get such good phone if i cant use it in simple way w/o worrying about the battery?
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So as far i have checked several connection switching applications but couldnt find one that actually switches lte to gsm by pressing one button. All i had found were just shortcuts to the network options so to change my connection i had to do several actions. What im looking for is an app with trigger like button which will automatically switch between gsm and lte - switcher like the stock data transfer button for example. For now i installed Switch Network Type 3G/2G (screens attached) which gives me an extra button in slide bar but only leads me to options.
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So as far i have checked several connection switching applications but couldnt find one that actually switches lte to gsm by pressing one button. All i had found were just shortcuts to the network options so to change my connection i had to do several actions. What im looking for is an app with trigger like button which will automatically switch between gsm and lte - switcher like the stock data transfer button for example. For now i installed Switch Network Type 3G/2G (screens attached) which gives me an extra button in slide bar but only leads me to options.
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i didn't read all of your text because it's just too long for me. but if you want an advice for battery improvement, try setting cpu max frequency to 1000 or lower (at 1000 it's still not really laggy at messaging etc. but battery should improve) :fingers-crossed:
Well the post seems long cos iv really tried maaany things to improve batt life. I will give it a try with CPU settings tho. But still im seeking the real drainage problem so my question is: does network connection have such an influence on battery life? any advices,programs etc appreciated
If with LTE connection you reach at least 3 hours, everything is all right. Normally i can do at most 3 and half hours of screen with LTE.
I've recently upgraded to the Google Pixel 6 Pro after 8 years with the Google Nexus 5, so, this would be my first time with a "modern" smartphone as of present
Everything is wonderful except one thing, the battery life
When idling (I do not touch the phone at all, rarely or no lock/unlock) I watched my Pixel 6 Pro drained 6% in the span of 2 hours, so roughly 3% per hour (That is a lot!), compared to my Nexus 5 which feels like it drained 5% if left alone for the whole day
What is going on? is it a "modern" phone thing? is it my phone? my settings? at this rate, it needs to be charged daily
Here is the Battery Usage breakdown;
https://imgur.com/a/mgJsN7n
Battery Usage breakdown while asleep;
https://imgur.com/a/Mj3VDE3
Why does "Mobile Network Standby", "Ambient Display", "Phone Idle" eat so much battery while idling, I am thinking of getting rid of "Your Phone Companion" even though I find it useful, conflicted if it is worth the battery, everything else looks good
EDIT: I am happy to say, after uninstalling "Your Phone Companion" the battery began to show improvement and following all the battery tips helped me maximize it, now I feel like I can go 3 days with the phone without charging it
In one of the battery threads Mobile Network Standby is a big topic. It appears to be a bug that is impacting some people. I would expect a fix from goggle for that. I have nothing on ambient display.
It's highly possible your phone isn't ever going into a deep sleep, which can cause unnecessary battery drain from apps that are stuck running in the background, or causing the phone to "wake". Did you transfer over all your apps and settings from your old phone? Some have said this has caused unusual high battery drain, and a factory reset where you don't restore from backup has helped.
Install AccuBattery or GSam battery monitor to get an understanding of your battery usage in greater detail.
AccuBattery - Apps on Google Play
AccuBattery monitors battery health performance via science
play.google.com
GSam Battery Monitor - Apps on Google Play
GSam Battery Monitor provides deep insights into what is using your battery.
play.google.com
Thank you for the lead on the bug, and I will look into AccuBattery
I did not transfer from my old phone, I configured/installed from out of the box
At most, you should only lose .5 - 7%hr when idle, not 3. Something is definitely going on in the background that needs to be addressed.
Here's how mine looks.
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Thank you for the lead on the bug, and I will look into AccuBattery
I did not transfer from my old phone, I configured/installed from out of the box
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In addition to what everyone else said, many users have reported that it took several days or more for the phone to "settle down" and adaptive battery to make an impact, at which point their battery got much better. Also, I would expect a lot of bug fixes in the December update that may help.
Also using 4G instead of 5G (because of the modem previously mentioned may help, as well as turning off adaptive network connectivity, WiFi & Bluetooth scanning and anything AOD related or things such as lift to wake (if you don't use then).
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At most, you should only lose .5 - 7%hr when idle, not 3. Something is definitely going on in the background that needs to be addressed.
Here's how mine looks.
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Thank you so much for this, it helps to compare
Lughnasadh said:
In addition to what everyone else said, many users have reported that it took several days or more for the phone to "settle down" and adaptive battery to make an impact, at which point their battery got much better. Also, I would expect a lot of bug fixes in the December update that may help.
Also using 4G instead of 5G (because of the modem previously mentioned may help, as well as turning off adaptive network connectivity, WiFi & Bluetooth scanning and anything AOD related or things such as lift to wake (if you don't use then).
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I had the phone since the 17th, I been configuring and setting it up for a week, I have only been using it normally for about half a week, which is why I am noticing the battery now
I believe I have LTE over 5G but could you run me through how to turn off 5G
Not sure about adaptive network connectivity or what it is
WiFi needs to be on
Bluetooth is always off
Would my location take a hit if I turn off scanning
Lift to wake is off
minun said:
I had the phone since the 17th, I been configuring and setting it up for a week, I have only been using it normally for about half a week, which is why I am noticing the battery now
I believe I have LTE over 5G but could you run me through how to turn off 5G
Not sure about adaptive network connectivity or what it is
WiFi needs to be on
Bluetooth is always off
Would my location take a hit if I turn off scanning
Lift to wake is off
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If you have LTE as preferred then you don't have to worry about turning off 5G. Preferred network type can be found in the Network & internet settings under your carrier settings.
Adaptive network connectivity is in the Network & internet settings at the very bottom.
I wasn't talking about turning WiFi & Bluetooth off, but rather turning off WiFi & Bluetooth scanning, which can be found in Settings>Location>Location Services. And no, your location would not take a hit.
Also remember that when comparing your idle drain to others that you don't necessarily have the same apps running in the background as they do, the same settings, same amount of notifications going off, etc. My personal opinion is that anything under 1%/hr is acceptable. I have seen a wide range of idle drain percentages among 6 Pro users. My current idle drain measured over 3 1/2 days is .78%/hr with deep sleep around 85%.
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If you have LTE as preferred then you don't have to worry about turning off 5G. Preferred network type can be found in the Network & internet settings under your carrier settings.
Adaptive network connectivity is in the Network & internet settings at the very bottom.
I wasn't talking about turning WiFi & Bluetooth off, but rather turning off WiFi & Bluetooth scanning, which can be found in Settings>Location>Location Services. And no, your location would not take a hit.
Also remember that when comparing your idle drain to others that you don't necessarily have the same apps running in the background as they do, the same settings, same amount of notifications going off, etc. My personal opinion is that anything under 1%/hr is acceptable. I have seen a wide range of idle drain percentages among 6 Pro users. My current idle drain measured over 3 1/2 days is .78%/hr with deep sleep around 85%.
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I would also like to get to that level
the crazy thing is my phone barely has anything going on except for the system and your phone app
what would be used for my location if i turned off my wifi and bluetooth scanning at home, my data?
minun said:
I would also like to get to that level
the crazy thing is my phone barely has anything going on except for the system and your phone app
what would be used for my location if i turned off my wifi and bluetooth scanning at home, my data?
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When WiFi & Bluetooth scanning our on, your phone is constantly looking for Bluetooth devices near you that you may want to connect to or WiFi networks to connect to. It's really only useful if you're out and about and want to connect to such services. Turning it off doesn't disable your location. As long as your location setting is on, your phone will know where it is at.
Yeah, I would uninstall that Your Phone Companion app. It certainly is using a lot of battery in the background. But it's a trade off...if you really like it and find it useful than you may just have to take the battery hit (as with any app really).
Also, I notice the stock kernel has a couple of kernel wakelocks that are keeping the phone awake to a certain extent (at least for me). Using a custom kernel can help but that's a whole other conversation.
I really think after the December update and after more app developers have optimized their apps for Android 12 we will get a better idea of how the battery really is on this phone.
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When WiFi & Bluetooth scanning our on, your phone is constantly looking for Bluetooth devices near you that you may want to connect to or WiFi networks to connect to. It's really only useful if you're out and about and want to connect to such services. Turning it off doesn't disable your location. As long as your location setting is on, your phone will know where it is at.
Yeah, I would uninstall that Your Phone Companion app. It certainly is using a lot of battery in the background. But it's a trade off...if you really like it and find it useful than you may just have to take the battery hit (as with any app really).
Also, I notice the stock kernel has a couple of kernel wakelocks that are keeping the phone awake to a certain extent (at least for me). Using a custom kernel can help but that's a whole other conversation.
I really think after the December update and after more app developers have optimized their apps for Android 12 we will get a better idea of how the battery really is on this phone.
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Okay, sounds great
just for my knowledge, if I turn off scanning, would it not detect any new bluetooth device or wi-fi unless I turn it on? it will still connect to devices/signals it knows?
minun said:
Okay, sounds great
just for my knowledge, if I turn off scanning, would it not detect any new bluetooth device or wi-fi unless I turn it on? it will still connect to devices/signals it knows?
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If scanning is off it won't constantly try to see if their is a Bluetooth device or WiFi connection nearby, but yes it will still connect to the devices/networks it knows. And if you want to connect to a new device or network you can just go into that setting (Bluetooth or Network) and it will scan automatically once you open up that setting or choose to add a new device, etc.
minun said:
I believe I have LTE over 5G but could you run me through how to turn off 5G
Not sure about adaptive network connectivity or what it is
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Go into settings > network and internet > sims > preferred network type.
If that option is missing, you can manually change it under phone settings by opening up the phone app, then punching in the following: *#*#4636#*#*. From the new screen that presents itself, select phone information. Then, you'll have an option to select your network type. Select LTE.
Adaptive connectivity can "help" extend battery life, according to Google by managing network connections,
Adaptive connectivity should keep you on 4G for low usage tasks... Reddit, chat, etc. When your phone demands more bandwidth, it switches to 5G (Netflix, streaming, etc.), but users have said if you're in an area with spotty 5G or none at all, switching to LTE only (given the instructions above) will help reduce battery drain.
Go into settings > network and internet > adaptive connectivity > off.
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If scanning is off it won't constantly try to see if their is a Bluetooth device or WiFi connection nearby...
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Funny enough, I have wifi scanning off but still get notifications about nearby connections lol
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Funny enough, I have wifi scanning off but still get notifications about nearby connections lol
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Oh, there's also a setting in Network preferences for "Notify for public networks". Maybe that needs to be disabled as well (I have it disabled)??? Otherwise, huh, weird, lol.
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Oh, there's also a setting in Network preferences for "Notify for public networks". Maybe that needs to be disabled as well (I have it disabled)??? Otherwise, huh, weird, lol.
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That's it! Just turned it off, I must've forgotten about that one lol. Thanks
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Go into settings > network and internet > sims > preferred network type.
If that option is missing, you can manually change it under phone settings by opening up the phone app, then punching in the following: *#*#4636#*#*. From the new screen that presents itself, select phone information. Then, you'll have an option to select your network type. Select LTE.
Adaptive connectivity can "help" extend battery life, according to Google by managing network connections,
Adaptive connectivity should keep you on 4G for low usage tasks... Reddit, chat, etc. When your phone demands more bandwidth, it switches to 5G (Netflix, streaming, etc.), but users have said if you're in an area with spotty 5G or none at all, switching to LTE only (given the instructions above) will help reduce battery drain.
Go into settings > network and internet > adaptive connectivity > off.
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If I turn off Adaptive Connectivity, it would just stay on LTE and won't switch between 5g (setLTE is my preferred network),3g,2g?
how about "Allow 2G", do I need this on and would turning it off save battery? it read
'Use 2G mobile connections. For emergency calls, 2G is always turned on.'
Lughnasadh said:
In addition to what everyone else said, many users have reported that it took several days or more for the phone to "settle down" and adaptive battery to make an impact, at which point their battery got much better. Also, I would expect a lot of bug fixes in the December update that may help.
Also using 4G instead of 5G (because of the modem previously mentioned may help, as well as turning off adaptive network connectivity, WiFi & Bluetooth scanning and anything AOD related or things such as lift to wake (if you don't use then).
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Isn't the point of adaptive connectivity to keep the phone on 4G unless 5G is absolutely necessary?
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Isn't the point of adaptive connectivity to keep the phone on 4G unless 5G is absolutely necessary?
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No, that's not how adaptive connectivity works. Your phone will always prefer the highest tier network available (as long it get's a signal).