CWM vs TWRP - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

CWM v6.0.0.0
http://plus.google.com/u/0/103583939320326217147/posts/cPF6gkmpM9m
koush said:
The recovery builder is now building version 6 of the recovery. The main changes are as follows:
Backups are much faster. 4-5x faster. (Bug fix due to excessive status updates of the UI and new backup technique)
Incremental backups are smaller. Way way smaller. Only 15-20MB each for each additional backup of a ROM. This is done using a new tool I wrote to dedupe the files between incremental backups to eliminate duplicates.
Here's a test build for maguro (Galaxy Nexus GSM):
http://download.clockworkmod.com/test/maguro-test-recovery.img
And the builder site:
http://builder.clockworkmod.com
Still in alpha, please test.
Update: Here's the touch version as well:
http://download.clockworkmod.com/test/maguro-touch-test-recovery.img
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Team Win Recovery Project
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592689
http://www.teamw.in/
http://goo.im/devs/OpenRecovery
ClockworkMod Recovery
http://download.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/
http://download.clockworkmod.com/test/
Custom Recovery - The first prerequisite for our jollification! Which do you think is better?
Edit : flashable zip in the existing recovery (GSM)
CWM_maguro_v6.0.0.0.test_touch.zip
TWRP_maguro_V2.2.0b1.zip

Clockworkmod.
I miss the clockworkmod-based 4EXT Recovery (for the Nexus One, amongst others), though.

I preferred the polished look and feel of TWRP, but alas when I boot into recovery it would be gone. Im not sure what's going on there.
CWM so far hasn't given me any problems, and now I have several nandroids using the recovery, so Ill probably stick with this version.
I wont say neither is better. As long as they are functional its all a matter of preference.

CWM > TWRP tried the latter didn't like it as its pretty limited when I had it. Couldn't flash Zephyr Keys and the like. Still loving the original.
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I really liked CMWR, i have used it almost in every Android phone i've had but TWRP is way to go now. Extremely fast backups, touch-friendly UI and most importantly - you can give names to your backups right from recovery which i find very useful.

daskalos.healing said:
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Edit : flashable zip in the existing recovery
CWM_maguro_v6.0.0.0.test_touch.zip
TWRP_maguro_V2.2.0b1.zip
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TWRP faster and more convenient than CWM

the title said "vs" but nothing is compared...
anyway, im using touch cwm, as long as it's not broken, not going to change to other recovery. im scared of bricking it haha

I was SO confused. I've been using CWM Recovery since 2008... but the same backup states with each recovery resulted in 1200mb file size with CWM and about 700mb with TWRP using compression. Still sorta prefer CWM's looks, but that could just be because I'm used to it after so long.

uansari1 said:
I was SO confused. I've been using CWM Recovery since 2008... but the same backup states with each recovery resulted in 1200mb file size with CWM and about 700mb with TWRP using compression. Still sorta prefer CWM's looks, but that could just be because I'm used to it after so long.
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cwm recovery wasnt around in 2008, and almost everyone was using Amon_RA recovery in 2009(almost all android recoveries are based off Amon_RA recovery, including cwm btw).

simms22 said:
cwm recovery wasnt around in 2008, and almost everyone was using Amon_RA recovery in 2009(almost all android recoveries are based off Amon_RA recovery, including cwm btw).
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Wow, you're right! I WAS using Amon_RA on the G1..I guess I switched to CWM on the N1. They looked the same if I'm not mistaken.
Anyway, my point is I've been using that basic format all these years, so I likely need time to get used to a whole new look..
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uansari1 said:
Wow, you're right! I WAS using Amon_RA on the G1..I guess I switched to CWM on the N1. They looked the same if I'm not mistaken.
Anyway, my point is I've been using that basic format all these years, so I likely need time to get used to a whole new look..
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they did look the same. CWM was based on amon_ra.
i think the first CWM was only a slightly tweaked version of amon_ra

Zepius said:
they did look the same. CWM was based on amon_ra.
i think the first CWM was only a slightly tweaked version of amon_ra
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I do recall that as well.
So does anyone have a technical summary of the disadvantages of one vs the other?
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uansari1 said:
Wow, you're right! I WAS using Amon_RA on the G1..I guess I switched to CWM on the N1. They looked the same if I'm not mistaken.
Anyway, my point is I've been using that basic format all these years, so I likely need time to get used to a whole new look..
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Zepius said:
they did look the same. CWM was based on amon_ra.
i think the first CWM was only a slightly tweaked version of amon_ra
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yup. cwm was a tweaked amon ra recovery. speaking off, ive been trying to talk amon ra into making a new ns and gnex recovery(since he has both phones), but hes pretty solid solid about being retired from recovery work. at least we have a great base that these new recoveries can use to grow from.

TWRP. Keyboard in recovery, file manager, terminal emulator, zip queueing, back up partitions larger than 2GB, more convenient intuitive layout, battery percentage in recovery and time in recovery. And probably a few other things I'm missing. TWRP.

jesusice said:
TWRP. Keyboard in recovery, file manager, terminal emulator, zip queueing, back up partitions larger than 2GB, more convenient intuitive layout, battery percentage in recovery and time in recovery. And probably a few other things I'm missing. TWRP.
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dimension of the backup introduced by cwm is a big change what about twrp backup dimension?

spupuz said:
dimension of the backup introduced by cwm is a big change what about twrp backup dimension?
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Can you elaborate? What is the question?

jesusice said:
Can you elaborate? What is the question?
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i mean the cwm backup size is around 16/20mb bucause there a share "blob" dir for all the backups that contain the redundant data, what's the dimension of the twrp backup?

spupuz said:
i mean the cwm backup size is around 16/20mb bucause there a share "blob" dir for all the backups that contain the redundant data, what's the dimension of the twrp backup?
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I believe you're speaking of differential backups, where only updated data is backed up and a centralized backup is used as a base.
I don't believe differential backups are supported by TWRP, but it is on their to-do list. So at this point, every backup is a full backup.

Cilraaz said:
I believe you're speaking of differential backups, where only updated data is backed up and a centralized backup is used as a base.
I don't believe differential backups are supported by TWRP, but it is on their to-do list. So at this point, every backup is a full backup.
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yeah sorry for my bad english that was the point

Cilraaz said:
I believe you're speaking of differential backups, where only updated data is backed up and a centralized backup is used as a base.
I don't believe differential backups are supported by TWRP, but it is on their to-do list. So at this point, every backup is a full backup.
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I haven't used new CWM yet, how is it? Incremental backups sound cool but makes me worry that there's more things that could go wrong. Since I've got a 32GB Gnex I'm not really concerned about size though.

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How to make a flashable ODIN backup?

Hey guys,
I'm looking for some info from a knowledgeable dev on how to create a custom ODIN backup that can be restored using the ODIN executable for Windows? My goal is to create a complete hard image of my entire device (including my apps/personal data) that I can restore at anytime (as if it was never touched since the backup) using ODIN.
If anyone can fill me in on the details I would highly appreciate this.
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: I see some other guides here, here, and here. But I noticed some of the blocks they reference are nonexistant on the Galaxy Nexus.
Update #1: Looking for answer to this - Link to post
Update #2: May have found it - Link to post
Info that may help #1
Info that may help #2
would also like to know how to backup with odin since my nandroids always fail at restoring data and then im forced to fresh install a rom
The Race To Die said:
would also like to know how to backup with odin since my nandroids always fail at restoring data and then im forced to fresh install a rom
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Yes! Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one who has this issue. Are you using Touch CWM 5.8.0.2? Or the regular 5.5.0.4?
open1your1eyes0 said:
EDIT: I see some outdated guides here, here, and here. But I noticed some of the blocks they reference are nonexistant on the Galaxy Nexus.
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How are these guides outdated? They work just fine for the devices they were written for. The Charge uses a completely different device layout compared to the Nexus. They are meant for completely different phones, hence the reason stuff isn't the same. Someone needs to find the proper names for the items that are dumped, and then an Odin package can be put together, but every device will have it's own guide on how to make the packages.
open1your1eyes0 said:
Yes! Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one who has this issue. Are you using Touch CWM 5.8.0.2? Or the regular 5.5.0.4?
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Haven't tried koush's touch yet. Doesn't look as good to me as the unstableapps touch recovery, but have no luck with unstable or regular cwm recovery
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imnuts said:
How are these guides outdated? They work just fine for the devices they were written for. The Charge uses a completely different device layout compared to the Nexus. They are meant for completely different phones, hence the reason stuff isn't the same. Someone needs to find the proper names for the items that are dumped, and then an Odin package can be put together, but every device will have it's own guide on how to make the packages.
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I see, so each device has different blocks allocated. I wonder how people figure out what blocks go to what?
The Race To Die said:
Haven't tried koush's touch yet. Doesn't look as good to me as the unstableapps touch recovery, but have no luck with unstable or regular cwm recovery
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I'm assuming you're referring to the first Touch Recovery (Unofficial) that was released? But really? Even the regular CWM doesn't work for you? This is a serious issue if we can't restore backups. How are we the only ones who noticed?
Yes that is the one I am talking about. Creating backups works fine, but restoring always fails while restoring data.
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The Race To Die said:
Yes that is the one I am talking about. Creating backups works fine, but restoring always fails while restoring data.
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I can confirm the same on the official Touch CWM 5.8.0.2 however I think I can recall making and restoring backups back when there was only the regular 5.5.0.4. Do you mind flashing that and testing if you can make a backup and restore it again?
open1your1eyes0 said:
I see, so each device has different blocks allocated. I wonder how people figure out what blocks go to what?
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Look in /dev/block/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.0/by-name
Those are what you set your "if" path to.
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open1your1eyes0 said:
I can confirm the same on the official Touch CWM 5.8.0.2 however I think I can recall making and restoring backups back when there was only the regular 5.5.0.4. Do you mind flashing that and testing if you can make a backup and restore it again?
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sure, will report back in a little. could it have been that i ran out of space? i only had 5 or 6 gigs left, but just erased all my backups and now have about 18gb
efrant said:
Look in /dev/block/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.0/by-name
Those are what you set your "if" path to.
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I'll take a look right now.
The Race To Die said:
sure, will report back in a little. could it have been that i ran out of space? i only had 5 or 6 gigs left, but just erased all my backups and now have about 18gb
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That is possible actually, I only had about 2-3GB left when I had the failed restores. Now that I redid my phone maybe it won't be an issue.
I am very interested in this topic since the stock image for my phone is not available. I would like to have an option to restore the stock image in case of a warranty issue.
I was exploring using ADB backup. Would it make sense to do a factory reset before creating the backup image?
Stuck on 4.0.1
efrant said:
Look in /dev/block/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.0/by-name
Those are what you set your "if" path to.
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How do you differenciate which one refers to which partition (data, dbdata, system, etc...). I think this is the main issue here.
open1your1eyes0 said:
How do you differenciate which one refers to which partition (data, dbdata, system, etc...). I think this is the main issue here.
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Not really sure what you are referring to. Each of those is a partition. User data is the data partition, system is the system partition, boot is the boot partition, etc, etc.
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efrant said:
Not really sure what you are referring to. Each of those is a partition. User data is the data partition, system is the system partition, boot is the boot partition, etc, etc.
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EDIT: Disregard I was looking in the wrong directory.
flashed 5.5.0.4 through rom manager
rebooted into recovery
backup completed fine
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/IMG_20120208_204435.jpg?w=d80708cb
now making a backup through rom manager just for the hell of it to see if one works over the other
The Race To Die said:
flashed 5.5.0.4 through rom manager
rebooted into recovery
backup completed fine
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/IMG_20120208_204435.jpg?w=d80708cb
now making a backup through rom manager just for the hell of it to see if one works over the other
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Really hope it works.
efrant said:
Look in /dev/block/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.0/by-name
Those are what you set your "if" path to.
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Ok so I figured out which block goes to what partition (here). Now using this, how can I make a flashable package for ODIN? Also do the filenames of the "of" have to be a specific extension or name or it can be named anything? How does ODIN know which "of" file to treat as which partition in that case?
amazingly it worked! must not have had enough space to restore all of the data or something. now to figure out this odin thing. first samsung ive owned so ive never used it, had an og before my nexus.
The Race To Die said:
amazingly it worked! must not have had enough space to restore all of the data or something.
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Thank you for testing this! I will stick to 5.5.0.4 for now and make sure I have enough space from now on.
FYI, I found another backup method: Link and More Info. For that you need to have the latest adb.exe from the Android SDK. I am attaching it to this post.

TWRP vs. CWM recovery

I'm just curious what the general consensus is out there between these two recovery modules. I've always used cwm rec until recently when I couldn't test flash ANY cm10 jb roms. I had to install twrp in order to flash them and it worked right away. It nice to have touchscreen controls but newer cwm's have that now too so I guess I just want to be sure I'm not losing anything or missing out on anything by leaving cwm rec for twrp .. and many say to switch anyways but what is the general feeling out there and what are you others using?
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TWRP to me just has a better layout and mor responsive touch UI.. Havent had any problems with it so far not being able to flash or anything so...
+1 TWRP is overall smoother and easier to use IMO, and 0 issues so far flashing anything or restoring backups.
I've used CWM since it was available for the Samsung Captivate. Great program. I'm now using TWRP, and I like it better. It appears to be faster, quicker backups and allows for more options. TWRP feels more responsive than Touch CWM (and I paid for that program).
Two points to consider. Backups for each program are only able to be restored by that program. Meaning, you can't restore a CWM backup using TWRP and you can't restore a TWRP backup using CWM.
If you use TWRP v2.2.1, the INTERNAL SD card mount point is \data\media instead of extSdCard. That's really confusing for CWM users and really annoying general.
You can flash recovery zips in both CWM or TWRP.. I flash my .zips from the external card now that I'm using TWRP.....
Both great programs....:good:
My favorite part about TWRP is that you can enable compression on nandroid backups.
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cellgeek said:
I've used CWM since it was available for the Samsung Captivate. Great program. I'm now using TWRP, and I like it better. It appears to be faster, quicker backups and allows for more options. TWRP feels more responsive than Touch CWM (and I paid for that program).
Two points to consider. Backups for each program are only able to be restored by that program. Meaning, you can't restore a CWM backup using TWRP and you can't restore a TWRP backup using CWM.
If you use TWRP v2.2.1, the INTERNAL SD card mount point is \data\media instead of extSdCard. That's really confusing for CWM users and really annoying general.
You can flash recovery zips in both CWM or TWRP.. I flash my .zips from the external card now that I'm using TWRP.....
Both great programs....:good:
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Yep, I too had been using cwm since my first Captivate...and have always enjoyed it but have also recently switched to TWRP and find it to be better and plan to use it now.as.my only recovery.
It is unfortunate but true that u can't restore backups from the others program so all.my old.cwm nandroid backups are basically useless now unless I reinstall cwm but that's OK moving forward I guess.
I too was a bit confused by the internal.SD card file.system location in data/media and still.don't understand it but as long as u know then its OK. So far it sounds like twrp is the future of recovery and more and more people are switching...and the touch function and extra options.are.nice.features.
The bottom line is as long as I am not missing out on something or losing some important functionality then I'm fine with the switch from cwm and.will.stay with TWRP but will never deny the popularity and usefulness of cwm and how it got me going in the whole.game of flashing and.mod'ing phones.
TWRP is by far the best recovery I have ever used. I couldn't imagine life without it now.
hallo13th said:
TWRP is by far the best recovery I have ever used. I couldn't imagine life without it now.
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I totally agree. I was using CWM on my Thrill and didn't get a chance to use TWRP till I got my Fire. Now I will only use TWRP. CWM is an excellent recovery but I like the features of TWRP better.
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a lot of the rooting/recovery guides are suggesting to use clockwork recovery, is that just because twrp wasn't really supported back then? any issues noticed with using twrp on the sgs3?
as with all programs there is no "best" just personal preference: try one, then the other and settle on that which suits yoiur phone and needs "the best"
I tried TWRP and went back to CWM -- many others, obviously, tried and preferred TWRP
TWRP is easier & more efficient to use. Bar none.
But with that said, IMO CWM is still the better recovery for some situations. First, there is more support for CWM still.
Second, if you use a ROM's built in functionality to update itself (like AOKP has), then that requires CWM as far as I can tell.
Also keep in mind that it's easier to screw up on TWRP because it is touch-based. I've accidentally pressed buttons without meaning to. It's only a matter of time before that gets me into trouble.
I just wish CWM would remove the thousand "no" that you have to sort through before getting to a "yes". And I wish they would update it more often.
I did pay for my ClockworkMOD, btw.
hey guys please give me tips on the twrp
i gave up on cwm i couldn't install cm10 on my galaxy s3 i747m ROGERS (at&t)
so can someone walk me through the twrp way of flashing cm10 rom
pleaaaaaaasee
cheers
totti107 said:
hey guys please give me tips on the twrp
i gave up on cwm i couldn't install cm10 on my galaxy s3 i747m ROGERS (at&t)
so can someone walk me through the twrp way of flashing cm10 rom
pleaaaaaaasee
cheers
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Exactly the same as cwm. Except all wiping option are put together in the wipe menu, you can select multiple file to flash on after another and fix permissions is in the advanced menu.
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CZ Eddie said:
TWRP is easier & more efficient to use. Bar none.
But with that said, IMO CWM is still the better recovery for some situations. First, there is more support for CWM still.
Second, if you use a ROM's built in functionality to update itself (like AOKP has), then that requires CWM as far as I can tell.
Also keep in mind that it's easier to screw up on TWRP because it is touch-based. I've accidentally pressed buttons without meaning to. It's only a matter of time before that gets me into trouble.
I just wish CWM would remove the thousand "no" that you have to sort through before getting to a "yes". And I wish they would update it more often.
I did pay for my ClockworkMOD, btw.
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I use the touch version of cwm and am very thankful for the thousands no's, help mitigate those "oh crap" moments that touch screen introduces.
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CZ Eddie said:
TWRP is easier & more efficient to use. Bar none.
But with that said, IMO CWM is still the better recovery for some situations. First, there is more support for CWM still.
Second, if you use a ROM's built in functionality to update itself (like AOKP has), then that requires CWM as far as I can tell.
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Task and ktoonzes aokp ota updater now works with the newest twrp.
TWRP. I like its layout, and love that I can build a stack of .zips to flash. (Not sure if CWM has that feature, won't be causing me to switch over to it.)
Encrytion and backups!
The most impressive feature of TWRP hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.. TWRP supports flashing ROM's on devices that have been fully encrypted !
Also, it allows for backup and restore of ROMs on encrypted devices that neither CWM nor CWM Touch support.
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AT&T Samsung Galaxy S III - Touch Recovery

I know this might be a stupid question but I was wondering if they have a version of touch recovery for the AT&T SGS 3. I have seen the sprint one but was uncertain if the AT&T had one please if anyone knows can you point me in the right direction. Thank you for your help on this I really appreciate it!!
If you install Goo Manager from the play store, you can install TWRP, which is a touch recovery. As far as CWM goes, Koush had released a touch version of CWM version 6, but it was buggy and he pulled it. He'll have another one up for us soon. My suggestion is to stick with CWM. After the initial backup, subsequent ones just fly.
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If you install Goo Manager from the play store, you can install TWRP, which is a touch recovery. As far as CWM goes, Koush had released a touch version of CWM version 6, but it was buggy and he pulled it. He'll have another one up for us soon. My suggestion is to stick with CWM. After the initial backup, subsequent ones just fly.
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Hey thank you i will do that but i was just wondering, thank you for the response.
I personally use cwm 5.8.4.5. Which is also touch. But my biggest reason is because its the only one with external access. I prefer my backups and ROMs on external.
Ends said:
I personally use cwm 5.8.4.5. Which is also touch. But my biggest reason is because its the only one with external access. I prefer my backups and ROMs on external.
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TWRP has external SD ability. Much better than CWM IMHO.
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TWRP has external SD ability. Much better than CWM IMHO.
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I did not know that. I never switched over because the backups wernt compatible and I didn't want to lose them.
thacounty said:
TWRP has external SD ability. Much better than CWM IMHO.
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A couple weeks ago, I would have agreed with you. Then I upgraded to CWM 6.something. First impression was shaky. That first nandroid took over 20 minutes. But all subsequent backups take less than five and can be done straight from Rom Manager. Choose backup in RM, click OK, and it reboots to recovery, does a nandroid, then reboots the phone...hands free. The first nandroid backs everything up to a blobs folder. Subsequent backups only backup what has been changed...so very speedy.
Also, I can format /data in CWM. TWRP would always fail...but I do miss the touch interface of TWRP.
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If you install Goo Manager from the play store, you can install TWRP, which is a touch recovery. As far as CWM goes, Koush had released a touch version of CWM version 6, but it was buggy and he pulled it. He'll have another one up for us soon. My suggestion is to stick with CWM. After the initial backup, subsequent ones just fly.
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What he said. Tried TWRP back when it came out and was not pleased. Flashing was a chore with them. Don't know if it has changed. CMW is the king IMHO. Miss the touch part but it will come when its ready. Stick with what's tried and true. Is my opinion.
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A backup in twrp for me takes about 130 seconds to back up a tw rom, less for aosp roms. Not sure why your backups take so long. Been using twrp for the past year about and I see no reason to go back. Zip que, the gui, the organization are all much better in twrp in my opinion. Of course everyone's opinion differs but that's my 2 cents.
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A backup in twrp for me takes about 130 seconds to back up a tw rom, less for aosp roms. Not sure why your backups take so long. Been using twrp for the past year about and I see no reason to go back. Zip que, the gui, the organization are all much better in twrp in my opinion. Of course everyone's opinion differs but that's my 2 cents.
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I agree with this. Being able to flash the rom and gapps at once is pretty sweet. Plus Rom Manager seems to cause problems on roms. Of course I know you don't need Rom Manager to have CWM.

[Q] Which one is the BEST custom recovery TWRP vs CWM

Hello! Which one is better / more feature rich / YOUR favorite ?? And why?
Twrp... Search this and other threads... Been a long debated and posted about topic b4.....
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Twrp too. Love how fast make nands. Plus themeable.
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Twrp. Its got every thing you want in a recovery
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TWRP
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I like twrp but I feel more secure with cwm for some reason
Also twrp doesn't pickup my cwm nandroids
It might not be a bug idk
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twrp without a doubt.
I always ran cwm on my other phones so when I bought this one I went straight to cwm. Then I heard about twrp and tried it out. I will never go back. Twrp now the only recovery I will flash.
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Thanks so much for all the replies! I've rooted several GS3 for friends and coworkers and left CWM since they wont ever go in and use it anyways (they all wanted the free hotspot lol) but I finally made the jump back to android since I got an iPhone 4s when it came out for Sprint and followed your advise to use TWRP recovery. Hopefully it will not be a problem if I decide to start messing around with Cyanogen based ROMs for the GS3.
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eurominican said:
Thanks so much for all the replies! I've rooted several GS3 for friends and coworkers and left CWM since they wont ever go in and use it anyways (they all wanted the free hotspot lol) but I finally made the jump back to android since I got an iPhone 4s when it came out for Sprint and followed your advise to use TWRP recovery. Hopefully it will not be a problem if I decide to start messing around with Cyanogen based ROMs for the GS3.
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I used to be on CM or any other AOSP ROMs while using a themed TWRP v2.2.2.0 and had no issues
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TWRP
the latest CWM Version included in GNT 9.2 keeps crashing during Backup - the Backup file is about 20MB in size.
won't trust CWM anymore...
I never understood this question. Best for what? Flashing zips every once in a while? They both do that. What do you want your recovery to do that one or the other do not do? Try them both and see which one appeals to your sense of what's best.
where can one find twrp?
TrusterX said:
TWRP
the latest CWM Version included in GNT 9.2 keeps crashing during Backup - the Backup file is about 20MB in size.
won't trust CWM anymore...
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Did you delete .android_secure from internal sd? I had problems till I did that. Also:
QUESTION: Why are the backups size soo small now compared to the previous cwm backups?
ANSWER: Basically on the new cwm all the data is stored in a blobs folder in the clockworkmod folder. The backups folder now doesnt hold the actual data and instead the system and data files contain links to the files in the blobs folder (with the hash of the file as its filename). When you perform another backup only the changes have to be added so it performs incremental backups instead of full backups everytime. You can still flash different roms and back them up as any new data is stored in the blobs folder with the links in the backup folder. Several backups can share the same blobs file so over several backups the total file size of all the backups will be much much smaller. When you delete a backup via cwm you can then free space of the blob files that are no longer needed to keep everything tidy and make sure that no files are stored that arent referenced to any backup. If you don't free the space then any unused files will automatically be deleted when the next backup is performed.
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eurominican said:
Hello! Which one is better / more feature rich / YOUR favorite ?? And why?[/QU
I have to say TWPE i WAS ON CWM BUT TWP GIVE SO MUCH MORE IN RECOVERY
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I prefer CWM, just because I'm used to it...
TWRP

Latest CWM?

I have been running AOKP ICS for a while now and I had TWRP as my recovery. Well after flashing around a bit I had to reflash a rom and was unable to inject TWRP for it to boot. As a result I have CWM 6.0.1.3 I think. Is this the latest and why would I have a backup fail to create a MD5, therefore rendering that backup useless? CWM seems fine for flashing and wiping, but backups are super important. Any help would be awesome!
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I have been running AOKP ICS for a while now and I had TWRP as my recovery. Well after flashing around a bit I had to reflash a rom and was unable to inject TWRP for it to boot. As a result I have CWM 6.0.1.3 I think. Is this the latest and why would I have a backup fail to create a MD5, therefore rendering that backup useless? CWM seems fine for flashing and wiping, but backups are super important. Any help would be awesome!
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6.0.1.3 is the latest and I know, it can't make a nandroid backup
If you want make a backup on CWM just back to 5.0.2.7
Or use TWRP, I like TWRP
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Dropple said:
6.0.1.3 is the latest and I know, it can't make a nandroid backup
If you want make a backup on CWM just back to 5.0.2.7
Or use TWRP, I like TWRP
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What is the point of a "RECOVERY" if it cant make backups? WTF over. confused
zman519 said:
What is the point of a "RECOVERY" if it cant make backups? WTF over. confused
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I'm kinda in the same boat. I ran into this issue when I was trying-out CM9. Now I'm on CM10 9/14 Nightly, which installed with CWM 6.0.1.3. I'm ready to flash the NS4G modem AIO and give it a spin now that the roaming issue is fixed. However, I want to be safe about it and run a nandroid backup first. If I can't restore my nandroid using CWM 6.0.1.3, can I use 5.0.2.7 with CM10?
Can I just CWM flash 5.0.2.7 over 6.0.1.3 or am I better off flashing TWRP?
Thanks in advance,
Al
Why does cm roms install a recovery any ways?!? I remember back in froyo rom days around hear. Some Devs *****ing about roms installing recoverys & apks to /data/ every one at that time came to agree that Roms SHOULD NOT INSTALL A RECOVERY.
I mean if a new cm rom needs a new cwm recovery then FLASH the new recovery reboot recovery & flash the rom
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zman519 said:
Why does cm roms install a recovery any ways?!? I remember back in froyo rom days around hear. Some Devs *****ing about roms installing recoverys & apks to /data/ every one at that time came to agree that Roms SHOULD NOT INSTALL A RECOVERY.
I mean if a new cm rom needs a new cwm recovery then FLASH the new recovery reboot recovery & flash the rom
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Believe it had to do MTD. Last I read about this, been a while, the 5.5 version of CWM was specifically for MTD and the 5.0 version was BML. I could very well be incorrect, but that's what I recall reading a while ago.
5.0.2.7 works on MTD
IDK I just miss having the cmw flashable cwm recovery zips. Luckely I have got gotten in to a pickle like many have
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nikon120 said:
Believe it had to do MTD. Last I read about this, been a while, the 5.5 version of CWM was specifically for MTD and the 5.0 version was BML. I could very well be incorrect, but that's what I recall reading a while ago.
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OK -- Now I get why I couldn't flash 5.0.2.7 over 6.0.1.3 when I was trying to get back out of CM9 a month or so ago. However, I ended up Odining back to stock and installed TPR MTD and I could swear that I ended up with CWM 5.0.2.7 on MTD.
I'm soooo confused.....
I just want to make a restorable nandroid of my CM10.
Thanks,
Al
zman519 said:
Why does cm roms install a recovery any ways?!? I remember back in froyo rom days around hear. Some Devs *****ing about roms installing recoverys & apks to /data/ every one at that time came to agree that Roms SHOULD NOT INSTALL A RECOVERY.
I mean if a new cm rom needs a new cwm recovery then FLASH the new recovery reboot recovery & flash the rom
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Oh ya?, TWRP can flash cm9/cm10, without need a new recovery like 6.x CWM
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Are you guys actually having trouble with backups? I backup and restore with 6.0.1.3 almost every day.
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Are you guys actually having trouble with backups? I backup and restore with 6.0.1.3 almost every day.
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Yup. I've never been able to restore a nandroid using 6.0.1.3. I always get an MD5 checksum error. To be honest, I haven't tried in a while, but that was my experience a month or so ago when on CM9. I have no idea if the problem lies in the CWM backup or the restore process.
I'll give it another shot now to see if I can backup and restore my CM10. Stay tuned.
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Well, Ahhhl be! (my best Gomer Pyle impression -- you youngsters can Google Gomer Pyle). I ran a nandroid in 6.0.1.3 and advance-restored data successfully. I don't understand what all the complaining is about....
Al
bbelos said:
Are you guys actually having trouble with backups? I backup and restore with 6.0.1.3 almost every day.
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No problems hear. Just confused as to why roms now days install recovery?
BTW your Kernels are the Shizt
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arschend said:
Yup. I've never been able to restore a nandroid using 6.0.1.3. I always get an MD5 checksum error. To be honest, I haven't tried in a while, but that was my experience a month or so ago when on CM9. I have no idea if the problem lies in the CWM backup or the restore process.
I'll give it another shot now to see if I can backup and restore my CM10. Stay tuned.
Edit ----
Well, Ahhhl be! (my best Gomer Pyle impression -- you youngsters can Google Gomer Pyle). I ran a nandroid in 6.0.1.3 and advance-restored data successfully. I don't understand what all the complaining is about....
Al
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I know that just about every time I have had problems nandroiding my sdcard was on the way out:banghead:
I forget the name of the program (Windows) but it has a Black Cats face (head shot) for in icon & its really good at testing flash media.
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