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My current plan is a Family Flex Plan. My parents are on my account, but they use like 12 mins total a month between the two and I have unlimited data, text and photo messaging. First I was told that if I got the EVO I would only have to pay $10 additional each month for 4G, Now I'm hearing that I have to upgrade my plan to the everything data plan + $10 for the 4G. Do I have to move to an everything data plan if I upgrade? What if I bought the phone cash money with no upgrade, could I just add it to my current plan?
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My current plan is a Family Flex Plan. My parents are on my account, but they use like 12 mins total a month between the two and I have unlimited data, text and photo messaging. First I was told that if I got the EVO I would only have to pay $10 additional each month for 4G, Now I'm hearing that I have to upgrade my plan to the everything data plan + $10 for the 4G. Do I have to move to an everything data plan if I upgrade? What if I bought the phone cash money with no upgrade, could I just add it to my current plan?
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i didn't have to go 'everything', i did go unlimited data/texts, and unlimited mobile to mobile, with only 450 minutes to landlines. my plan, without my school discount, is 80. including the 10 bucks a month extra the evo requires.
Yeah, you definitely need a data plan.
You will want to get a data plan, but you don't have to go to the totally unlimited plan. You should be able to do the $69 one.
Does anyone know how this is going to work? I'm an old G1 user, and it's come to my attention that T-Mobile USA has discontinued those talk+text+web data plans for $25 (or $35 for unlimited text). From what I see now, in order to get talk, text, and web, we'll be forced to pay the $30 for the web and $10 for unlimited text, with no other options. If I'm currently on a G1 data plan, can I just switch the device and keep my current plan? I'm guessing the answer is probably not...but I was wondering if you guys knew anything different.
I go the $25 web+400 txt.
And when i got my family plan they said they couldnt change that because if they did i would have to pay more for the web so they left that part alone. But on the switching from g1 to g2 idk if they will try to force an upgraded data on the line or not. I know if they try to do that to me i will raise hell. And they dont even have a 400 txt plan no more its only 1000, 1500 and unlim..
On their website, all I see is the "upgraded" $30 unlimited web. The only option for text is also the $10 unlimited text. I also have the $25 unlimited web+400 texts, and would like to keep that if I can. $40 per month is way too much to pay for what I had before.
I would just swap out my sim when the g2 comes and keep an eye on your bill. if they give you some bs about chaing your data plan, then fuse at them. Tell them you been with them for a long time and you want the rate you been getting. Even tell them your go to a different company. They will more or less change it back if they even change it.
Also its better to do this kinda stuff over tmobile.com so you have a recorded of what they said.
You will most likely have to update to the new $30 web and separate $10 text. Some accounts are able to keep the old data plan ($25 or $35), but most of the time you will have to switch to the current data plan or the order will not process.
It is possible that you will be able to stay on the old plan from the G1, and your best bet is to go in to the store or call customer care to order.
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You will most likely have to update to the new $30 web and separate $10 text.
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:O sounds like their pricing might be getting closer to AT&T. though its still cheaper.
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You will most likely have to update to the new $30 web and separate $10 text. Some accounts are able to keep the old data plan ($25 or $35), but most of the time you will have to switch to the current data plan or the order will not process.
It is possible that you will be able to stay on the old plan from the G1, and your best bet is to go in to the store or call customer care to order.
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Ordered mines last night and didn't ask or tell me I would have to switch plans but we will see what happens when I get the phone and put in my g1 sim.
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I actually changed my minutes when I pre-ordered and they thought they might not be able to without changing my data plan, which they didn't have to do.
So, the regular one should be fine
I work at t mobile, if your getting an upgrade or buying outright your do not have to switch anything if your getting a whole new contract all together, then your forced to get the new rate plans
Indeed, as long as you're already on an Android plan, you won't be forced to the $30 plan.
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The store put me on Android Unlimited B2B for $19.99... They said it would work for all their Android phones and fulfill contract obligations, but had to call customer care and have it added.
Not sure what is so special about it, or who qualifies, but it might be an option. To me it still sucks. I had granfathered $5.99 T-Zones on the Nexus One.
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I work at t mobile, if your getting an upgrade or buying outright your do not have to switch anything if your getting a whole new contract all together, then your forced to get the new rate plans
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Thanks for the info. Now to "upgrade" and get a decent price (150-200), that requires signing a new 2 year contract. In this case, will I still be able to keep the current plan?
I know that if you have about six months of perfect on-time payments that that you can call loyalty and get a $20 per month unlimited data. Its called pref android unlimited web req. on my bill.
You will have to upgrade from $19.99 to $24.99 but don't let them give you the $30.00 plan. If they try threaten to leave. That's what I'm paying.
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There's a $20 android data plan? No fair. I had to upgrade my grandfathered $20 "Total Internet Plan" to the $25 loyalty android plan when I swapped out my old iPhone. I was told that was the cheapest 3G data plan now, even with grandfathered ones.
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There's a $20 android data plan? No fair. I had to upgrade my grandfathered $20 "Total Internet Plan" to the $25 loyalty android plan when I swapped out my old iPhone. I was told that was the cheapest 3G data plan now, even with grandfathered ones.
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A was I. Now I am considering calling them back.
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The store put me on Android Unlimited B2B for $19.99... They said it would work for all their Android phones and fulfill contract obligations, but had to call customer care and have it added.
Not sure what is so special about it, or who qualifies, but it might be an option. To me it still sucks. I had granfathered $5.99 T-Zones on the Nexus One.
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Me too. Tmobile actually removed the tzones plan from my line before I bought the phone and all that. Actually ordered it today but they removed it last night when I was just getting pricing info. Really pissed me off. I'm going to see I I can't finagle it back.
They told me the same thing but I called them a couple days ago and they gave it to me so... the $20 dollar data plan. But only on one of our phones (we have two lines). The other still is on the 24 dollar plan. Boo.
chewy106 said:
There's a $20 android data plan? No fair. I had to upgrade my grandfathered $20 "Total Internet Plan" to the $25 loyalty android plan when I swapped out my old iPhone. I was told that was the cheapest 3G data plan now, even with grandfathered ones.
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I'm obviously no expert since I started this thread, but my guess is that the $20 dollar plan you're talking about does not include text (you'll have to pay $10 more for unlimited text, there is no other option). The $25 dollar android plan should include 400 texts, I'm assuming that's the old G1 data plan (which I currently have on my G1).
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I'm obviously no expert since I started this thread, but my guess is that the $20 dollar plan you're talking about does not include text (you'll have to pay $10 more for unlimited text, there is no other option). The $25 dollar android plan should include 400 texts, I'm assuming that's the old G1 data plan (which I currently have on my G1).
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I know for me, the 19.99 was unlimited internet and text. When I upgraded to more than one smartphone on my account, I paid the 19.99 for unlimited text for all the lines on my account.
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Back in february I was so happy to get 4GB at price of 2GB data and now Verizon made me really unhappy , I switched from AT&T to Verizon been happy ever since!
now the shared data plans are just awful.
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http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Wireless-Launches-Shared-Data-Plans-119891
see for yourself!
I have 3 LTE (4GB lines) = 12
one iPhone line = 2gb
together =14gb
If I switched to their new plan I would pay exactly SAME PRICE for 10gb shared between all 4 phones.
Only difference is unlimited minutes and hotspot -_-
Verizon is just padding their pockets. Almost nobody benefits from these plans.
When they had that "double the data" deal going on I got 10 gigs for the price of 5.
Only 1 phone on the plan and don't plan on changing that .
When it's time to re-up I'm certain that things will have changed (like 100 Mbit LTE and stuff).
T-Mobile suddenly looks so good.... I doubt I'll leave Verizon though, I am a sucker for coverage.
If they cut off my grandfathered unlimited plan, there's no question that I'll leave Verizon. With these plans, I'd be paying $110 for my one phone with 4GB of data. That's absurd. Unless I'm misreading the plan, which I don't think I am, that's my only option (as 4GB is roughly what I use monthly).
They've realized fewer and fewer people care about minutes and texting, so instead of offering lower tiers, they just opt everyone into unlimited as their only option, and brand it as a benefit for the consumer. No thanks.
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If they cut off my grandfathered unlimited plan, there's no question that I'll leave Verizon. With these plans, I'd be paying $110 for my one phone with 4GB of data. That's absurd. Unless I'm misreading the plan, which I don't think I am, that's my only option (as 4GB is roughly what I use monthly).
They've realized fewer and fewer people care about minutes and texting, so instead of offering lower tiers, they just opt everyone into unlimited as their only option, and brand it as a benefit for the consumer. No thanks.
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They probably won't kill your unlimited but you can say goodbye to phone upgrades. Now you will have to buy phones full out to keep that unlimited
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They probably won't kill your unlimited but you can say goodbye to phone upgrades. Now you will have to buy phones full out to keep that unlimited
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It ends up being cheaper that way if he actually utilizes his unlimited data. Not really if he only uses 4GB.
This actually works out in my favor to the tune of $10/mo and I get an extra gig of data.
So total I pay $160/mo, which includes the 950 minutes with 5 free friends and family numbers, unlimited texting and 4 GB of data on the Nexus (due to double data), plus 5 GB on the Xoom.
If I added the numbers up right, my 9 gigs of total data would become 10 gigs, and I'd only pay $150:
$100 for the 10 GB of data with unlimited talk and text.
$40 smartphone fee for the Nexus
$10 tablet fee for the Xoom
I can live with saving $10/mo and getting an extra gig of data.
It would save me a total of 10 dollars a month to go with the 1gb shared, at the cost of my wife losing 4gb data, and me unlimited.
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It would save me a total of 10 dollars a month to go with the 1gb shared, at the cost of my wife losing 4gb data, and me unlimited.
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In the end, this is about one thing and one thing only...which is getting rid of unlimited data plans. VZ knows that forcing people to buy phones at full retail is going to make people think long and hard about whether or not they really NEED that unlimited data, or those people will take their money elsewhere. VZ doesn't care.
For those of us who went to VZ after the unlimited jig was up though, I think most of us will see at least some level of savings, even if it's only $10/mo like in my case. I mean, for me, getting an extra gig of data for $10 less per month is a win. Getting unlimited minutes on top of it is gravy, even though I don't make many phone calls.
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In the end, this is about one thing and one thing only...which is getting rid of unlimited data plans. VZ knows that forcing people to buy phones at full retail is going to make people think long and hard about whether or not they really NEED that unlimited data, or those people will take their money elsewhere. VZ doesn't care.
For those of us who went to VZ after the unlimited jig was up though, I think most of us will see at least some level of savings, even if it's only $10/mo like in my case. I mean, for me, getting an extra gig of data for $10 less per month is a win. Getting unlimited minutes on top of it is gravy, even though I don't make many phone calls.
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Even if I was on the lowest tier of 2gb, its a lose.
As expected, the shared data plans are a rip-off for 90% of use cases. I'm happy to have left VZW behind.
Okay, some fine print time.
Fine Print #1
Those who wish to stay with their current setup of 4GB of double data are able to do so. You will be allowed to upgrade with it, keep it, etc. So if the shared plan is not financially beneficial to you, don't sweat it.
Fine Print #2
Yes, those with unlimited will lose it. ONLY WHEN THEY UPGRADE. So if you never upgrade, you don't lose it for the foreseeable future. Do what I've been doing for years. Buy your phones off craigslist. Meet the seller at a Verizon, let a rep check the ESN and make sure you're not getting scammed with a stolen phone, and call it a day. I picked up my Nexus for $200 on Craigslist, the same cost it sells for at Verizon WITH CONTRACT. This will enable you to keep your unlimited.
The prices on this benefit a lot of people. Consider this:
2 line family plan, both smartphones
99.99 for 700 minutes & unlimited texting
30 for 2GB
30 for 2GB
=$160 a month
Under new plan:
$70 for unlimited talk and text, 4GB of data shared, now with free tethering
40 for 1 phone
40 for other phone
= $150 a month. $10 savings, same GB overall, now unlimited minutes.
I'm not saying it works for everyone, but it does work for a lot of people, and if it doesn't work for you, there are still other options available. Let's not all cry doom yet.
Very disappointing. Currently have a family plan of two smartphones and a feature phone. Before data, the cost for everything (shared minutes, 3 texting plans, line access charges) is $105. That's with the minimal texting plans that everyone needed. Data is currently 2x$30, one unlimited, the other 4gb (total bill:$165). I was hoping that family data meant I could cut that extra $60 and have a shared pool in the 4gb range. Our normal usage would realistically do well with a 3gb/month cap. 2gb would be realistic with some attentiveness to usage.
Nope! If we switched, the base price before data is $110. 1gb shared is a $5 savings off our current bill and that's just asking for overage charges. Anything more than 1gb and it's just more expensive than current. "Pay less and use less" was my theme for how I hoped to change things. Verizon managed to make that impossible in their new system for me. Over a year until my contract is up, but if it was expiring sooner I'd be looking for a change.
Maybe I should find some light data users/non-smartphone users and ask them if they want to join our family plan.
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Okay, some fine print time.
Fine Print #1
Those who wish to stay with their current setup of 4GB of double data are able to do so. You will be allowed to upgrade with it, keep it, etc. So if the shared plan is not financially beneficial to you, don't sweat it.
Fine Print #2
Yes, those with unlimited will lose it. ONLY WHEN THEY UPGRADE. So if you never upgrade, you don't lose it for the foreseeable future. Do what I've been doing for years. Buy your phones off craigslist. Meet the seller at a Verizon, let a rep check the ESN and make sure you're not getting scammed with a stolen phone, and call it a day. I picked up my Nexus for $200 on Craigslist, the same cost it sells for at Verizon WITH CONTRACT. This will enable you to keep your unlimited.
The prices on this benefit a lot of people. Consider this:
2 line family plan, both smartphones
99.99 for 700 minutes & unlimited texting
30 for 2GB
30 for 2GB
=$160 a month
Under new plan:
$70 for unlimited talk and text, 4GB of data shared, now with free tethering
40 for 1 phone
40 for other phone
= $150 a month. $10 savings, same GB overall, now unlimited minutes.
I'm not saying it works for everyone, but it does work for a lot of people, and if it doesn't work for you, there are still other options available. Let's not all cry doom yet.
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We aren't crying doom, we are being realistic.
I have five lines, with two of them being smart phones, and the rest feature phones with no data plans. My wife has 4gb, I have unlimited. Under no circumstance is this advantageous, by any reach. Verizon is just fattening their pockets.
Using Droid Life's method of calculating, I have 170 bucks in device fees alone before even selecting a plan.
Don't they plan to make calls routed through LTE Advanced soon? So heavy talkers who think they have "unlimited" minutes will find out they are burning gigs of data per month just on phone calls.
Just to give you an idea, streaming music for one hour a day equates to 1 gig of data per month. A family of five can easily use of gigs of data just on voice calls.
Maybe Verizon will exempt this type of data, though I doubt it.
They are giving away voice as unlimited because data is their money maker and they know it.
adrynalyne said:
We aren't crying doom, we are being realistic.
I have five lines, with two of them being smart phones, and the rest feature phones with no data plans. My wife has 4gb, I have unlimited. Under no circumstance is this advantageous, by any reach. Verizon is just fattening their pockets
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Then, realistically, don't switch to the new plan structure. This plan is essentially giving data plans to those feature phones, and as a result, costs more. If that's not what you want, stick with the plan setup you have now. Verizon isn't taking away individual data plans. They're just taking away unlimited.
I've already come up with a few loopholes to keeping unlimited. Will be anxious to try them out.
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Then, realistically, don't switch to the new plan structure. This plan is essentially giving data plans to those feature phones, and as a result, costs more. If that's not what you want, stick with the plan setup you have now. Verizon isn't taking away individual data plans. They're just taking away unlimited.
I've already come up with a few loopholes to keeping unlimited. Will be anxious to try them out.
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Just because they aren't taking away 'insert' individual feature, doesn't mean we shouldn't complain about them effectively finding a way to screw people.
I've said it before, I am not one to side with the folks who are OK with bending over.
My mom's phone doesn't require a data plan and she plans to upgrade to a smartphone in October. I have the Nexus with unlimited. We are on the same plan.
So my question is when she upgrades will that affect me?
Verizon Wireless’s Monthly Line Access Charge (MLAC). What is a MLAC? It’s a user fee for the privilege of using their network. Of all the pieces of the Share Everything puzzle, the MLAC is the part that really rubs me the wrong way. If the fee itself isn’t bad enough, the egregious amount they are charging, forty dollars per smartphone, is quite frankly, obnoxious. Because smartphone users will be the biggest piece of the data pie, Verizon Wireless believes they can rake those users over the coals. Once again, this fee is obnoxious. It really does shock me that Verizon would impose such egregious fee on their customers – it’s a real slap in the face to long time loyal customers.....saw this on rootz I just copy and pasted the last paragragh...will something like this let us get out of our contract assuming it happens?
Its not even a "possible", it is a "will be" when the shared data plans come into effect.
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...g-proposal-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-r881
Original article if anyone cares.
No, it won't get you out of your contract, because you would have signed a new contract under the new conditions.
Wait, so all of a sudden if you're on this share everything plan, you get smacked with an additional $40? Good thing none of us are on it and will not be on it.
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Wait, so all of a sudden if you're on this share everything plan, you get smacked with an additional $40? Good thing none of us are on it and will not be on it.
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40 dollars per smartphone, 30 per feature phone. The 50+ on top of that is the actuall plan.
So...if you were on a shared plan with one smartphone and nothing else (why the hell would you do this), you would pay 90 bucks a month plus taxes and surcharges for unlimited voice, text, and 1gb of data. If on a feature phone, it would be 80 a month. It goes up from there.
Edit: Oh and the employee discounts? Only apply to the plan and not the device fees.
That shared plan is for the birds...keeping my unlimited data plan. Who still talks that much on phones these days anyway to need unlimited voice.
No, it won't get you out of your contract, because you would have signed a new contract under the new conditions.
OK so until we end our existing contract not much is gonna change then?I got in past the unlimited data so not to worried bout that right now....guess I should have posted the hole article sorry for any confusion guys..
evolving said:
No, it won't get you out of your contract, because you would have signed a new contract under the new conditions.
OK so until we end our existing contract not much is gonna change then?I got in past the unlimited data so not to worried bout that right now....guess I should have posted the hole article sorry for any confusion guys..
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Right. You are safe for your current contract period. IF additional charges are levied against current contracts, you can walk away with no ETF. If you renew before the end of this month (26, or 28th, I forget), you can get in on the old plans.
Right. You are safe for your current contract period. IF additional charges are levied against current contracts, you can walk away with no ETF. If you renew before the end of this month (26, or 28th, I forget), you can get in on the old plans.
OK thanks for the clarification, I was assuming that anyways but was thinking they may try to force it on us whenever they felt like it.I looked it up and the shared plan takes my bill to 220 or 240 with 10 gb shared..they are gonna make us go broke or go back to ****ter phones.
evolving said:
Right. You are safe for your current contract period. IF additional charges are levied against current contracts, you can walk away with no ETF. If you renew before the end of this month (26, or 28th, I forget), you can get in on the old plans.
OK thanks for the clarification, I was assuming that anyways but was thinking they may try to force it on us whenever they felt like it.I looked it up and the shared plan takes my bill to 220 or 240 with 10 gb shared..they are gonna make us go broke or go back to ****ter phones.
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Indeed. There are only a few circumstances I see this being advantageous. I am definitely not one those circumstances.
Definitely gone from Verizon once my contract is up.
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That charge isn't new. The family plan I'm on now is $9.99 per line.
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Smokeey said:
That charge isn't new. The family plan I'm on now is $9.99 per line.
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That's not what we are talking about,yours is 9.99 for add a line.what we are talking about has not started yet
nothing to see here, move along
1) There is NOTHING to indicate that verizon will end or take away anyone's current unlimited data plan, if you want to continue with it, even beyond when your contract expires. Keep your current phone, keep your current contract, unlimited, forever. (or until they make further changes). Same phone, some contract, no change.
2) Want to keep your unlimited plan, AND get a new phone? Go ahead, buy a new phone, keep your unlimited plan. Forever. You just have to pay full price for that new phone.
So the only REAL change coming for current, unlimited data subscribers is they won't be able to keep their current plan AND get a new subsidized phone. They are not taking away your unlimited data plans, they are taking away subsidized future phones.
REMEMBER Verizon hasn't sold new unlimited data subscriptions for a year or so now, so for most new customers unlimited data isn't an issue.
Moving forward ......
3) For NEW customers, or old customers that don't have unlimited data, the new plans look like they will save a bunch of money for (a) families and (b) users with tablets. The new plan for a smartphone + tablet will likely be cheaper than a current smartphone plan PLUS a separate tablet data plan, and, the new plans will likely be much more convenient, you won't have to worry OK, I'm at 4.7 gigs on the tablet this month, better start using the 5 gb smartphone data allowance ...
4) Verizon is expensive. Yep. We got all kinds of threads touting the unlimited Straight Talk plans, or the $30 Tmo plan. LOTS of reasons knowledgeable folks are going for the prepaid plans these days, IF you're looking to get a new, cheap plan.
5) IF you have an unlimited plan, AND you use close to or more than 5gb of data, verizon today is the best deal going, and will continue to be the best deal going. I regularly get 20 MBS 4g lte on unlimited verizon. My neighbors unlimited DSL is 6 mbs. I don't have to pay for home internet ....
I'm not seeing any reason for current unlimited users to panic, for new users the new plans are an improvement over current family and multi line plans, and there are plenty of prepaid cheaper options, have been for months now, the new verizon plans don't make the prepaid look any MORE attractive.
EXAMPLE - Galaxy Nexus + xoom lte tablet
CURRENT
Tablet 3GB plan, $35
Smartphone - unlimited talk and txt = $90
Smartphone Unlimited data = $30
Smartphone Hotspot = $30
TOTAL = $185
NEW PLAN, 10 GB
unlimited 10 GB = $100
smartphone +$40
tablet +10
TOTAL = $150
SO which plan is better? 10 GB is a lot of use a month .... and a lot more for the tablet to use if the phone hotspot isn't around.
For some folks, the unlimited IS worth the extra $35 per month, no doubt, but, for many users, looks to me like the new plan might be better ....
SO, if you have no unlimited home internet, and need to make sure you can download the 40GB MOP expansion pack for World of Warcraft when it comes out, or, have no unlimited home internet to DL HD video with every night, by all means, keep your current unlimited verizon wirless plans.
At 20 mbs dl, popping over 30 mbs in the wee hours when downloading HD video, I'll likely keep my unlimited plan for many many more months.
HAVE FUN!
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nothing to see here, move along
1) There is NOTHING to indicate that verizon will end or take away anyone's current unlimited data plan, if you want to continue with it, even beyond when your contract expires. Keep your current phone, keep your current contract, unlimited, forever. (or until they make further changes). Same phone, some contract, no change.
2) Want to keep your unlimited plan, AND get a new phone? Go ahead, buy a new phone, keep your unlimited plan. Forever. You just have to pay full price for that new phone.
So the only REAL change coming for current, unlimited data subscribers is they won't be able to keep their current plan AND get a new subsidized phone. They are not taking away your unlimited data plans, they are taking away subsidized future phones.
REMEMBER Verizon hasn't sold new unlimited data subscriptions for a year or so now, so for most new customers unlimited data isn't an issue.
Moving forward ......
3) For NEW customers, or old customers that don't have unlimited data, the new plans look like they will save a bunch of money for (a) families and (b) users with tablets. The new plan for a smartphone + tablet will likely be cheaper than a current smartphone plan PLUS a separate tablet data plan, and, the new plans will likely be much more convenient, you won't have to worry OK, I'm at 4.7 gigs on the tablet this month, better start using the 5 gb smartphone data allowance ...
4) Verizon is expensive. Yep. We got all kinds of threads touting the unlimited Straight Talk plans, or the $30 Tmo plan. LOTS of reasons knowledgeable folks are going for the prepaid plans these days, IF you're looking to get a new, cheap plan.
5) IF you have an unlimited plan, AND you use close to or more than 5gb of data, verizon today is the best deal going, and will continue to be the best deal going. I regularly get 20 MBS 4g lte on unlimited verizon. My neighbors unlimited DSL is 6 mbs. I don't have to pay for home internet ....
I'm not seeing any reason for current unlimited users to panic, for new users the new plans are an improvement over current family and multi line plans, and there are plenty of prepaid cheaper options, have been for months now, the new verizon plans don't make the prepaid look any MORE attractive.
EXAMPLE - Galaxy Nexus + xoom lte tablet
CURRENT
Tablet 3GB plan, $35
Smartphone - unlimited talk and txt = $90
Smartphone Unlimited data = $30
Smartphone Hotspot = $30
TOTAL = $185
NEW PLAN, 10 GB
unlimited 10 GB = $100
smartphone +$40
tablet +10
TOTAL = $150
SO which plan is better? 10 GB is a lot of use a month .... and a lot more for the tablet to use if the phone hotspot isn't around.
For some folks, the unlimited IS worth the extra $35 per month, no doubt, but, for many users, looks to me like the new plan might be better ....
SO, if you have no unlimited home internet, and need to make sure you can download the 40GB MOP expansion pack for World of Warcraft when it comes out, or, have no unlimited home internet to DL HD video with every night, by all means, keep your current unlimited verizon wirless plans.
At 20 mbs dl, popping over 30 mbs in the wee hours when downloading HD video, I'll likely keep my unlimited plan for many many more months.
HAVE FUN!
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Tablets are an exception to these plans. The advantage quickly disappears when have multiple smartphone lines.
As for what I have highlighted...I promise you it will not last forever. I have been with Verizon since analog signal was all the rage. They don't roll like that.
Smokeey said:
That charge isn't new. The family plan I'm on now is $9.99 per line.
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9.99 per line ( I have five lines) is 49.95.
New device fees: 170.00. Three of my lines don't use or need data. Yet, I am being forced to pay 60 bucks extra on those 3 lines.
So currently between my wife, me, daughter, and two nieces, I pay about 235 bucks after surcharges and taxes for 1400 minutes, unlimited text and MMS. My wife has 4gb of data and I have unlimited.
With the new plans, I would pay 220.00 before surcharges and taxes for just 1gb shared. We would actually pay more than we do now once surcharges are applied. Surcharges for me are just shy of 30 dollars for 5 lines.
adrynalyne said:
Tablets are an exception to these plans. The advantage quickly disappears when have multiple smartphone lines.
As for what I have highlighted...I promise you it will not last forever. I have been with Verizon since analog signal was all the rage. They don't roll like that.
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LOL OK, I'll give you that I too, am expecting to get stabbed in the back by verizon and to have my currently unlimited, UNCAPPED superfast 4g to be taken away at some point. ATT was much more evil much sooner, they simply started capping "unlimited" plans at caps that were below what lower cap plans would cost, i.e. a $60 unlimited plan would get capped at 2 GB, but a new 3GB plan would cost $30.
SO FAR, verizon has been pretty good to me with unlimited data and fast speeds.
My big point was that these "NEW POOLED PLANS" aren't the end for current verizon unlimited customers. There is no sky falling for unlimited users, and for some customer the rates may go up, for other customers the rates may go down, there is no clear "we verizon are putting new screws on the customers".
For many many folks, the current prepaid plans are already the cheapest way to go, but for some folks, the new verizon plans make sense, especially for families that currently pay for multiple lines with their own (non unlimited) data caps on verizon.
It's really not THAT bad. Under the new plans, my current plan would be $10 less a month. If I added unlimited voice right now, it'd be roughly the same.
New Plan: $40 for the phone, $100 for 10 GB's x 20% discount = $112 + taxes.
This would give me unlimited data and WiFi Tether (useful if I was a fan of stock)
Current Plan: 900 minutes, unlimited text, 10GB x 20% discount = $110 with taxes.
Now, it sucks to be forced into unlimited voice. But the total bill isn't unreasonable. What's unreasonable is having the only voice/text plan offered be an all you can eat buffet. They're essentially raising the cost of data and making it palatable by charging a reasonable amount for voice and text.
All that said, I'm a HUGE proponent of not having a contract and being able to say, "See ya later". When I had my MiFi without a contract, I got GREAT customer service. I went ahead and signed a contract for my GNex only because I frankly need Verizon's network for work purposes so it's not like I can really go anywhere. And, compared to T-Mobile, which I totally dig, Verizon's network is far superior and I think they're entitled to charge a premium for that fact. The best way to avoid the new plans is to exercise a concept called "saving" and put back a few bucks every month to afford a non-subsidized phone the next time you want to upgrade. Considering I'm on Verizon and a Nexus freak, I don't imagine I'll be upgrading any time soon.
If I ever decided to get a tablet, and I doubt I would, being able to add one on for only $10 really is pretty freaking awesome. Right now, I wouldn't fathom it. Even if I wanted to blow several hundred on a iPad or a Xoom, it's a novelty that I'm not going to pay $600/year on for data access. But $10/month, well that's actually reasonable.
I'm all for blasting networks, but Verizon should get some props for certain aspects of this change in my opinion.
KWKSLVR said:
It's really not THAT bad. Under the new plans, my current plan would be $10 less a month. If I added unlimited voice right now, it'd be roughly the same.
New Plan: $40 for the phone, $100 for 10 GB's x 20% discount = $112 + taxes.
This would give me unlimited data and WiFi Tether (useful if I was a fan of stock)
Current Plan: 900 minutes, unlimited text, 10GB x 20% discount = $110 with taxes.
Now, it sucks to be forced into unlimited voice. But the total bill isn't unreasonable. What's unreasonable is having the only voice/text plan offered be an all you can eat buffet. They're essentially raising the cost of data and making it palatable by charging a reasonable amount for voice and text.
All that said, I'm a HUGE proponent of not having a contract and being able to say, "See ya later". When I had my MiFi without a contract, I got GREAT customer service. I went ahead and signed a contract for my GNex only because I frankly need Verizon's network for work purposes so it's not like I can really go anywhere. And, compared to T-Mobile, which I totally dig, Verizon's network is far superior and I think they're entitled to charge a premium for that fact. The best way to avoid the new plans is to exercise a concept called "saving" and put back a few bucks every month to afford a non-subsidized phone the next time you want to upgrade. Considering I'm on Verizon and a Nexus freak, I don't imagine I'll be upgrading any time soon.
If I ever decided to get a tablet, and I doubt I would, being able to add one on for only $10 really is pretty freaking awesome. Right now, I wouldn't fathom it. Even if I wanted to blow several hundred on a iPad or a Xoom, it's a novelty that I'm not going to pay $600/year on for data access. But $10/month, well that's actually reasonable.
I'm all for blasting networks, but Verizon should get some props for certain aspects of this change in my opinion.
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Not that bad? Maybe for you.
adrynalyne said:
9.99 per line ( I have five lines) is 49.95.
New device fees: 170.00. Three of my lines don't use or need data. Yet, I am being forced to pay 60 bucks extra on those 3 lines.
So currently between my wife, me, daughter, and two nieces, I pay about 235 bucks after surcharges and taxes for 1400 minutes, unlimited text and MMS. My wife has 4gb of data and I have unlimited.
With the new plans, I would pay 220.00 before surcharges and taxes for just 1gb shared. We would actually pay more than we do now once surcharges are applied. Surcharges for me are just shy of 30 dollars for 5 lines.
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Hey everyone,
Thought I will pass along some good news, maybe someone else can benefit as well. This is related to the post paid service with t-mobile. I am not sure if it is a great deal, but passing it along either way.
Background:
I had recently purchased a T-mobile prepaid sim card via Walmart. This has unlimited data (5Gb limit) and unlimited text and 100 mins talk time for $30/month. So you do have to recharge it for $30 min per month to keep the unlimited part. Benefit is I can make all the calls I want through grooveip or any other ip services which uses the data and not the minutes. I called the customer service to ask if they have the tmobile to tmobile free calls on the pre-paid plan. This was their general customer service line and I asked them to transfer me to the prepaid department. Before they transferred me over, they asked if its ok to check my account. Usually this is when they pitch additional data or services to sign you up for more, either way I was stuck in traffic and I thought why not. I am glad that I said yes now.
Free part:
The rep checked and said since I have been a loyal customer (this was his words, been with them for 9+ years now) I am eligible for some upgrades on my account (i have 5 lines, 1000 min, unlimited text and 3 lines with data). I had 5Gb with tethering on my line for $30, this was upgraded to 9Gb with 9Gb tethering for the same price. Another line had 2Gb for $10, this was upgraded to truly unlimited for the same price. The third line had 200Mb for $5, this was upgraded to 5Gb for the same price. I didn't ask him why mine was $30 and not less because I didn't want to sound greedy and also assumed it was because I have tethering. Either way, I am happy camper. This along with the free 1.2 Gb data for tablet that i recently signed up for makes me more than happy.
Try your luck folks. I believe this offer is tied to the loyalty program and their "bridge to value" plan deals. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Hey everyone,
Thought I will pass along some good news, maybe someone else can benefit as well. This is related to the post paid service with t-mobile. I am not sure if it is a great deal, but passing it along either way.
Background:
I had recently purchased a T-mobile prepaid sim card via Walmart. This has unlimited data (5Gb limit) and unlimited text and 100 mins talk time for $30/month. So you do have to recharge it for $30 min per month to keep the unlimited part. Benefit is I can make all the calls I want through grooveip or any other ip services which uses the data and not the minutes. I called the customer service to ask if they have the tmobile to tmobile free calls on the pre-paid plan. This was their general customer service line and I asked them to transfer me to the prepaid department. Before they transferred me over, they asked if its ok to check my account. Usually this is when they pitch additional data or services to sign you up for more, either way I was stuck in traffic and I thought why not. I am glad that I said yes now.
Free part:
The rep checked and said since I have been a loyal customer (this was his words, been with them for 9+ years now) I am eligible for some upgrades on my account (i have 5 lines, 1000 min, unlimited text and 3 lines with data). I had 5Gb with tethering on my line for $30, this was upgraded to 9Gb with 9Gb tethering for the same price. Another line had 2Gb for $10, this was upgraded to truly unlimited for the same price. The third line had 200Mb for $5, this was upgraded to 5Gb for the same price. I didn't ask him why mine was $30 and not less because I didn't want to sound greedy and also assumed it was because I have tethering. Either way, I am happy camper. This along with the free 1.2 Gb data for tablet that i recently signed up for makes me more than happy.
Try your luck folks. I believe this offer is tied to the loyalty program and their "bridge to value" plan deals. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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I'm confused, why did you buy a prepaid sim if you have 5 lines and what does one account have to do with the other? The only plains offered now are Simple Choice plans so I'm thinking that's what you have now.
tony yayo said:
I'm confused, why did you buy a prepaid sim if you have 5 lines and what does one account have to do with the other? The only plains offered now are Simple Choice plans so I'm thinking that's what you have now.
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Yes, I can explain. Like I said before, I am not sure if this is a big deal. It was for me and I am hoping others who are in the same page like me can maybe call and get the benefits. It gave me more data for no additional money. I constantly see posts regarding mods for tethering and removing tethering cap etc., thought this way they can just get the feature with no additional money and avoid all the hassle with bypassing the system.
Tmobile does not allow more than 5 lines on one account like other providers. This prevents me from adding another line to my account and get all the grandfathered benefits I am getting. I am paying about $140 including tax with 5 lines and all the features mentioned earlier. The cheapest plan I could find under post-paid is their simple choice for $50+tax with 1Gb data. Data and text is more important for me as I am giving this to my family member who doesn't need a lot of talk time (yes, teen). To get a 5Gb data plan, Ill be paying $70+tax. Now you know why I got the pre-paid option from Walmart. This will give 5Gb data and unlimited text and 100 min talk for just $30, this is final amount which includes tax. Almost $40+ cheaper than the equivalent.
I got the benefits because my plan is grandfathered and not the simple choice. Those who are grandfathered and not willing to move are categorized as "bridge to value" plan. This way I get the benefits from both.
You basically used to have either the value family plan with 1000 mins, or Classic 1000 min plan and with those plans it makes it cheaper for you to do upgrades on an equipment installment plan (EIP) and used your savings in switching plans to upgrade your services good deal for you because you pay the same, and good for him because he just got commission on the change over. As far as the 1.2 GB of free data on your tablet its free until January 2nd of 2015, and after that it's $10 after your $10 discount for having a post paid line with T-Mobile. If you want to stay free after January 2nd you would want to switch to the free 200mb plan.
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thanks for the info
ihidbehindmusic said:
You basically used to have either the value family plan with 1000 mins, or Classic 1000 min plan and with those plans it makes it cheaper for you to do upgrades on an equipment installment plan (EIP) and used your savings in switching plans to upgrade your services good deal for you because you pay the same, and good for him because he just got commission on the change over. As far as the 1.2 GB of free data on your tablet its free until January 2nd of 2015, and after that it's $10 after your $10 discount for having a post paid line with T-Mobile. If you want to stay free after January 2nd you would want to switch to the free 200mb plan.
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Thanks for the info