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Im trying to find out what is draining the battery on my EVO EVEN WHEN THE PHONE IS WITH THE SCREEN OFF and SUPPOSED to be in STAND BY MODE (using the power button on the phone). I have SETCPU installed to LOWER the CPU to 245/384 when the screen is off.. HOWEVER THE BATTERY SEEMS TO DRAIN .
This afternoon I charged he batter till the green light came on. Made one phone call for 10 minutes and then later another one for 10 minutes.. I do have GPS and BLUETOOTH ALWAYS turned on since I use them all the time WHEN the phone is on for various APPS and my bluetooth earpiece and car adaptor... After those 2 calls the phone is down to almost 70% from 100%...
I have SYSTEM PANEL and also JUICEPOLTTER, SPARE PARTS and MINIFREEMANAGER installed and the programs are set according to what I have been reading on here...
SPARE PARTS tells me the phone has be MORE THAN ONE DAY with sleeping and the most used app is ANDROID SYSTEM. I look at SYSTEMPANEL and UNDER MONITOR HISTORY I can see that even when there is NO DEVICE USAGE, I still have around 15-30% CPU Usage (is this normal?). I also have it set to get email etc automatically.. some every 2 hours and some software every 4-6 hours.
What could be causing the battery drain? What is the best program to use to see the cause?
Im also not 100% sure SETCPU is using the screen off profile.. HOW an I tell this??? Any help would be appeciated...
Have you tried turning GPS off? If it's not actually being used, it won't drain the battery much or at all. However, if you're actually using it, it will.
If you're using navigation, that's a big battery killer, as it does constant GPS + a large amount of data transfer.
One thing you can try is to open Spare Parts, then go to Battery History and choose "Partial wake usage" in the top box. Things with partial wake locks are generally the biggest idle battery users.
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Have you tried turning GPS off? If it's not actually being used, it won't drain the battery much or at all. However, if you're actually using it, it will.
If you're using navigation, that's a big battery killer, as it does constant GPS + a large amount of data transfer.
One thing you can try is to open Spare Parts, then go to Battery History and choose "Partial wake usage" in the top box. Things with partial wake locks are generally the biggest idle battery users.
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In partial WAKEUP uage... I see the following:
MAIL
UID 10018
WUNDEREADIO
MEDIA
VOICEMAIL
DIALER
FACEBOOK
that is the orde they are in and I set it to TOTAL SINCE BOOT.
And to answer your question about the GPS.. the only time I use the GPS is to get the correct weather for when I am, YELP and when I am in the car (and PLUGGED IN TO THE CAR MOUNT), GOOGLE NAVIGATION.
I also just Installed a BRIGHTNESS WIDGET and turned off auto-brightness. the widget I am using has 8 brightness settings and double click for auto. I am using currently on the second brightness setting on the widget (it shows little ticks). I am told lowering the brightness from auto will help...
I read in another forum that there was a bug in the Facebook application that was causing the application to refresh its information several times an hour instead of once in a while at specific times.It would use power and bandwith when the phone is even in sleep mode with screen off. They also mentioned that there was a fix already issued for this. I cannot find the link any more to source it for you where I read this.
My stock EVO runs for days with the radios turned off until I need them.
Sometimes, if it ain't broke ...
My evo has been draining fast without all that on and well it's annoying. The only compensation I have is owning 3 batteries.
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I haven't seen that Facebook issue. One other thing. In spare parts I have activity management set to aggressive. Could that effect battery life or does that help battery life. I also notice in spare parts that I See programs that I don't use ruining that I didn't see before.
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In partial WAKEUP uage... I see the following:
MAIL
UID 10018
WUNDEREADIO
MEDIA
VOICEMAIL
DIALER
FACEBOOK
that is the orde they are in and I set it to TOTAL SINCE BOOT.
And to answer your question about the GPS.. the only time I use the GPS is to get the correct weather for when I am, YELP and when I am in the car (and PLUGGED IN TO THE CAR MOUNT), GOOGLE NAVIGATION.
I also just Installed a BRIGHTNESS WIDGET and turned off auto-brightness. the widget I am using has 8 brightness settings and double click for auto. I am using currently on the second brightness setting on the widget (it shows little ticks). I am told lowering the brightness from auto will help...
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From your list I can only see two things I would kill these programs and wait and see what happens.
WUNDEREADIO
FACEBOOK
Everything else must run. For me Slacker radio kept my EVO on all day long eventhough I was not using it. The new version seems to fix that issue. I am guessing your problem is WUNDEREADIO. I would reboot (resets your battery information) kill Wundereadio. Then go to Settings, About, Battery and monitor your Awake Time vs Up Time. Write down the numbers. Turn off your phone and wait 10 minutes. You should see a gap in time. If so then it is Wundereadio.
Good luck
I think slacker and wunderradio were in the list because I just used them.. wunderradio inst in the list today.. BUT SLACKER is but not in the partial wake.. its in background ...
I changed my backlight setting from auto to using a widget that has 8 brightness settings and it is on the 3rd setting.. I dont know what the AUTO backlight was setting the screen at...
I also adjusted the MINIFREEMANAGER according to some settings I found online..
also I have SPARE PARTS set to AGGRESSIVE... would that have anything to do with it??
Check systempanel first thing when you wake up, but go into monitor, then history, and switch plot to top apps. It will tell you exactly whats been using the battery/cpu when there's been no usage.
As you know, the bt sucks a lot of battery, if you really do use it often, with a bunch of apps, you may want to consider tasker, which can be set up to turn bt on only when your on a call, or using certain apps.
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Will tasker turn on bluetooth when a call comes in? IE will it let the bluetooth earpiece ring so I can answer it from the bluetooth earpiece?? also can I set tasker so that when get in my car, it will KNOW I am in range of a bluetooth speakerphone and it will turn on BT and connect??
I leave BT on all the time for these reasons....
Looks like tasker wont do anything for me with Bluetooth. The earpieces take too long to connect when a call comes in or I make a call and some even auto answer when they connect which I don't want. I wonder how much battery drain Bluetooth and GPS use if left on but idle?
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Yeah, it would have depended on how long it took to pair. Still try checking the apps through systempanel after a few hours of non-use though. That should help.
And gps doesn't use much until its being used for something, but bt is a constant drain.
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On my old tp2 Bluetooth didn't the battery much. I guess it does on the evo
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OK so I have been running for the past day and 1/2 without blutooth turned on.. I only have 3G and GPS turned on. Still it seems the battery drains faster then it should. I look at SPARE PARTS and it doesnt show anything out of the ordinary on PARTIAL WAKEUP. I have SETCUP to 384/245 when screen off. I do use SYSTEMPANEL to look at what is running and it does show a LOT of stuff such as SLACKER, SOUND HOUND, JUICE PLOTTER, etc... what else can I do for battery life.. I left for work at 8:00 and when I got to work at 8:15, the battery was already at 90% without doing anything....
Aldo how much battery drain does BT take if I leave it on? its a pain to remember to turn it on when I get in the car and turn it off when I leave...
I just got an arc S~
My facebook is draining 15% of battery. I have not enabled facebook integration, sync is set to never and notification is off.
I do not want to uninstall this app.
Can you help with my situation?
Disable the GPS, I have this app for my captivate and it kept running the GPS, and the stay awake time was horrible, maybe some sort of task killer world work for you, I'm personally using mobo task killer
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Try the setting under here.
Setting, Sony Ericsson, Facebook inside Xperia.
Turning this off help?
Facebook inside Xperia and GPS are all off. GPS is actuall not draining much battery. Just wondering why Facebook is running when I set everything to off. I did killed it, but it get run again automatically in the backgroud I guess. It is still running now.
Check facebook messenger, think that's included in the arc s apps. It tends not to close.
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Try this.
Use facebook app. Open setting once page load. Set it to never refresh?
Is this one draining your battery?
Yes. Facebook app is set to never refresh and notification is off.
There is no facebook messenger app on my phone.
I figured this out that I need to log out from the facebook app. Otherwise it keeps draining battery.
i finally found the answer or trick on this...
first log out from your facebook and login selecting the dont-sync selection
after that you will be back to a normal facebook app only with no xperia integration
before facebook was eating 33mb of ram now that ive done this its ony 13-17mb.
hope this will help you..
Is it possible to completely uninstall the ticker?
Also, would it be possible to build a Rom without the ticker being included?
Looking for ways to save battery... thanks.
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I dont think the ticker would use up much battery, i think the both add up to 1 4in display, and those have good battery life. How long are you getting on a charge?
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The ticker is built into everything you do... I can hide the main screen, and everything else for that matter..... But it'll really do no good
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Ok, just wondering. I turned every feed off and stopped all ticker-related running services & went from around 280 running ram to 210 - 220 on Task Manager.
So I thought it might be worth a look...
I'm on ec07/ ec07 clean and am getting between 14 - 20 hours from a full charge, depending on my usage... some days it's crazy... thank goodness for smart phones.
I'm usually a pretty heavy user though: Facebook, XDA, Gmail, weather, only 1 Fancy Widget (clock: 4 X 2 size), checking Calendar all the time, on the phone a lot, send lots of texts, listen to music from Music Player through Blue Tooth headset, in/ out of the market a lot, switch launchers a lot...
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You're not going to squeeze more than 20 hours out of this bad boy without just leaving it sit all day...
Turn off mobile data when you don't need it. This will double the time between charges at least.
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I'm usually a pretty heavy user though: Facebook, XDA, Gmail, weather, only 1 Fancy Widget (clock: 4 X 2 size), checking Calendar all the time, on the phone a lot, send lots of texts, listen to music from Music Player through Blue Tooth headset, in/ out of the market a lot, switch launchers a lot...
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Thats your problem right there. All of these use data heavily. turn data off when not in use.
Turn off bluetooth, turn off wifi, turn off data... turn down screen brightness. and limit your use. that's the best way. as long as your phone is in use the cpu will be under load and will be using power. Same as the screen. No way to prevent energy use that way. Ram doesn't have much to do with it other than the auto syncing apps like facebook, gmail, etc. which will be running even when your phone is idling.
I didn't think it was a problem.
I thought 20+ hours with everything running was good.
I know that turning mobile data off will make it last longer, but I'm not interested in doing that cuz I want to stay connected.
I'm happy with the phone, battery & everything else, but was just trying to squeeze the max life out of it.
To me now, the ticker us basically just extra notifications anyways, so that's why I was asking about it.
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Thats your problem right there. All of these use data heavily. turn data off when not in use.
Turn off bluetooth, turn off wifi, turn off data... turn down screen brightness. and limit your use. that's the best way. as long as your phone is in use the cpu will be under load and will be using power. Same as the screen. No way to prevent energy use that way. Ram doesn't have much to do with it other than the auto syncing apps like facebook, gmail, etc. which will be running even when your phone is idling.
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So, basically, stop using it for what it was intended?... I'll deal with short battery life rather than do that... I auto-download podcasts, keep up with the socials, and make the occasional phone call... Sure my battery life is horrible, but I'm getting the most out of my device.
And 20 hours is excellent for a smart phone... Just recharge every night.
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I didn't think it was a problem.
I thought 20+ hours with everything running was good.
I know that turning mobile data off will make it last longer, but I'm not interested in doing that cuz I want to stay connected.
I'm happy with the phone, battery & everything else, but was just trying to squeeze the max life out of it.
To me now, the ticker us basically just extra notifications anyways, so that's why I was asking about it.
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If you get 20+ hours with all of you say you do, then you are doing something right. If i am on myphone, messing with stuff, changing things, playing, texting, emails, etc my phone is lucky to last half a day, but it is expected as a phone such as ours will use a lot of power by the screen, processer, etc.
I don't quite understand what you are trying to do? get even better battery life, or simply remove the icons from the ticker?
I suppose removing the icons, which i am sure trailblazer can do, as he said, will help save power in the sense of the pixels not illuminating. Our amoled screens use very little power when displaying a black screen by basically turning off each individual pixel, but like he said, the application will still be running in the background, so it is a little pointless. And, lastly, in order to completly remove the ticker we would need to build a rom from source to not include the ticker.
Confirm the following option is unchecked:
Maps/Settings/Location settings/Report from this device.
If it is checked, uncheck it.
Here's the difference in battery life -
About half the battery drain with the option unchecked.
Thanks for the tip
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It looks exactly the same lol. Just one was running on battery longer than the other?
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It looks exactly the same lol. Just one was running on battery longer than the other?
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What are you talking about? Did you zoom in to see screen on/awake usage? Both are about 7.5 hours of idle time.
I updated my phone to JB and followed the battery saving measures and the battery is dropping very quickly.
Before it could last up to 3 days in standby, now I'll be surprised if it lasts 8 hours.
I'll give it another day then try a factory reset if it does not improve.
Anybody else seeing this?
I have watchdog on the phone and it shows zero cpu off time.
Just install better battery stats, there is also a way to dump the same info in terminal but I don't use it. You are looking for alarms apps cause. It's most likely maps, followed by talk, exchange client, or anything like Twitter, FB,g+,stocks.... but most likely maps location settings
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I have been doing a lot of research and the end result is that JB out of the box will eat your battery and yes disabling the settings under maps does in fact help a lot but there is a lot more you can do to get good life... for starters get the simple stuff out of the way, DELETE FACEBOOK MOBILE APP!!!...and twitter and anything that actively accesses the internet in the background... I know this may sound taxing but it is so worth it if yiu just make a bookmark in your browser and view it periodically than have an always active app... next if you are not in a primarily lte covered area set your phone to cdma only... go into settings and go to data usage and here you can see what is using data in the background I.e. facebook... and go there and check the restrict app box.., disable auto brightness and some have said that if you disable sprint connection manager thing you can do even more.... now that one I cannot be sure about I will post results in the coming days of what I find
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I have been doing a lot of research and the end result is that JB out of the box will eat your battery and yes disabling the settings under maps does in fact help a lot but there is a lot more you can do to get good life... for starters get the simple stuff out of the way, DELETE FACEBOOK MOBILE APP!!!...and twitter and anything that actively accesses the internet in the background... I know this may sound taxing but it is so worth it if yiu just make a bookmark in your browser and view it periodically than have an always active app... next if you are not in a primarily lte covered area set your phone to cdma only... go into settings and go to data usage and here you can see what is using data in the background I.e. facebook... and go there and check the restrict app box.., disable auto brightness and some have said that if you disable sprint connection manager thing you can do even more.... now that one I cannot be sure about I will post results in the coming days of what I find
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You are pretty much correct the FB app sucks but I never really had much problems with it.
A lot of these tips though in general (not directed towards you) are stupid.
Like someone said a while ago I refuse to gimp my phone to sip a little bit more life out of it. What's the use of having a smartphone if you're not going to use it like one.
I always have high brightness unless its dark out. I broke my syncs intervals up to about 4 hours per sync and have push notifications from twitter and weather.
With those apps all I have to do is refresh when I enter the app having those syncing all the time is worthless unless you're constantly checking every 10 seconds.
I say I get fairly decent battery life granted I'm on wifi most the time and 7-8 hours with about 2 hrs screen on playing HD games youtube poweramp and my background processes.
Well in regards to the act of extending the life of your battery these are simply tips that you can utilize in the event you are someone who is out for extreme amounts of time.... I average anywhere from 13 to 17 hrs of battery life with 100% brightness, wifi 3g all of my favorite apps... instagram xda kik kindle Skype etc. And 5 to 6 hrs of screen on time. .. so these gimping tactics more than double my phones live time and doubles my life.... but hey if you can get to a charger after 8hrs by all means but for the most part I cannot until after 13 but i do in fact appreciate your incite
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Also even though you are disabling sone of these apps like google now.... you can still use it your just turning off the background nonsense
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OZGBLACK said:
Well in regards to the act of extending the life of your battery these are simply tips that you can utilize in the event you are someone who is out for extreme amounts of time.... I average anywhere from 13 to 17 hrs of battery life with 100% brightness, wifi 3g all of my favorite apps... instagram xda kik kindle Skype etc. And 5 to 6 hrs of screen on time. .. so these gimping tactics more than double my phones live time and doubles my life.... but hey if you can get to a charger after 8hrs by all means but for the most part I cannot until after 13 but i do in fact appreciate your incite
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what rom and kernel are u using
Even with changing that setting in Maps I still am not getting the same battery life as I did with ICS. Maps is still coming up as my most used app when I check battery usage even though I rarely use it. Wonder if it may be Google Now causing Maps to keep running.
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What are you talking about? Did you zoom in to see screen on/awake usage? Both are about 7.5 hours of idle time.
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Oh wow. Sorry from my phone I couldn't zoom in. I see now lol. Thought I saw 90 and 89 or something like that
I had the Maps setting turned off for a few days and also had A LOT of stuff disabled, but unfortunately my battery life (and my wife's as well) wasn't as good as ICS, and quite a bit worse actually.
Sadly, today, it looks like I figured out what the killer is:
Google Now.
This morning, 100% charged, I turned it off. My wife (who still had it on) and I were out and about together for about four hours, we both barely used out phones for that time. When we got home I checked both phones: I was at 96%, she was at 80%.
The only difference that I hadn't already accounted for:
Google Now.
So, unfortunately, it looks to me like one of the two biggest reasons for wanting JB in the first place (Butter being the other of course) turns out to be a big battery hog I don't yet know if there's maybe some setting within it that is a specific problem or if it's the whole thing in general... maybe you just need to disable a card or change an update frequency or something (I didn't touch any so I'm running whatever the defaults are), I don't know yet... but all indications are that's where the problem lies.
That, my friends, sucks.
Well since my phone has calmed down I am getting 13-16 hr easily. Brightness maxed of course and about 4-6 screen on time I will never cripple my phone. Hell I bought it so I can use not to look at. Lol thanks for the post of this though if I'm ever I. A die hard , situation I'll know what to do
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Orbiting234 said:
Even with changing that setting in Maps I still am not getting the same battery life as I did with ICS. Maps is still coming up as my most used app when I check battery usage even though I rarely use it. Wonder if it may be Google Now causing Maps to keep running.
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Google Now uses the "Report from this device" and "Enable location history" maps location settings to determine your driving patterns so it can suggest alternative routes and report traffic delays. Disabling "Enable location history" will disable the driving pattern suggestions completely.
FWIW Settings | More settings | Mobile networks | Network mode
Changing from "CDMA" to "LTE / CDMA" has gained me better battery life. My wife also noticed the same.
(To save time, I'm cutting & pasting my post from another similar thread.)
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963689&page=3
"I have had my Galaxy S3 for a week now. Battery life stabilized after the initial syncing, etc. I updated to Jelly Bean v4.1.1 two days ago, and battery life didn't seem noticeably different. However, that was until today. My phone was off of the charger, around 10AM, and had < 5% charge by 4:30PM. I was very busy, so I was hardly using the phone all day. It was in my pocket or on my desk most of the time. One of the only settings I changed last night, was enabling 'Use wireless networks' and enabling 'Location and Google search' under 'Location Services' in 'Settings'. I just disabled both settings, and will see if the battery drain is any less tomorrow. Also, Google Now was off, and was never enabled on my phone. I'll try to post the results, if at all possible..."
So, for me, it seems to be Location Services may have caused my poor battery life, and was definitly not Google Now, as it was never enabled. I'll try using the phone with the settings off, and see if that changes anything...
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what rom and kernel are u using
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Stock stock stock jellybean ota... that's it
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I do love Jelly Bean; as it is ICS only improved or enhanced. But battery life has definitely taken a hit. I can barely make it through 24 hrs. On ICS I could do a day and a half to two days with really light use. I've tried just about everything mentioned with little change. Good thing I have an extra battery. Thank you Samsung for making a phone with a user replaceable battery.
Thanks for all the ideas/suggestions anyways,
El Mono
I noticed the huge difference as well. I was walking around Chicago yesterday and not using my phone. After 4 hours I looked and my battery was at 50 %.
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This is driving me nuts!!! Since a few days ago every time I'm away from home at work, I get GPS blinking notification with ongoing message of "Searching using GPS..." while it's draining my battery like crazy. I'm not a noob, My phone is very light on apps, Google Now is disabled, Google location service is disabled, only one weather app and I disabled using GPS in there. Tried using GSam Battery Monitor to see if I can narrow it down - no help. Switched from 4G to wifi, still nothing. Of course I can turn GPS off for a problem to go away since i only use GPS in the car. But the problem is that I had my Note 2 for 3+ months and never had this issue before. Plus, I haven't installed any new app in at least 2 months. No life wallpaper, no fancy widgets that drain your resource, no social medial connection what so ever. All stock, not rooted. Using Nova Prime launcher, and a few widgets like Smooth Calendar, Circle Launcher, Rings Digital Weather Clock (with weather disabled), Fast Boot widget, Widgetsoid, Zooper Widget, and Android Weaither (GPS disabled).
That all that I have. Any idea how to resolve this?
Maps. Look in my guide to minimize the drain caused by it. But the best solution is to disable gps.
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Maps. Look in my guide to minimize the drain caused by it. But the best solution is to disable gps.
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Do you mean the link in your sig? and btw, where do you access Location Settings per your guide? ... never mind, found Location Setting under Maps. Just disabled "Report from this device". Maybe that will help it?
Yep
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Yep
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Funny that I had all that map stuff disabled, and it was still searching for GPS. But as soon as I stepped outside of the building where I work - it stopped. So something was trying to update location through GPS and could lock into the signal, thus searching and draining battery. Only happens in the building where I work. I guess the easy solution is to toggle GPS on/off. But still, would be good to find a source of which app or service is doing that pinging...
Try better battery status
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