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[Q] {Q} ClockworkMod

now im coming from many other android related phones but what i remember most that may help....ima test this but i remember ClockworkMod Recovery being used for MT3GS.......we go into our stock recovery; click update.zip (which was the clockwork recovery) and it would boot up a recovery mode that way; has anyone attempted this?
....Just a thought towards root or atleast custom recovery

s0xpan said:
now im coming from many other android related phones but what i remember most that may help....ima test this but i remember ClockworkMod Recovery being used for MT3GS.......we go into our stock recovery; click update.zip (which was the clockwork recovery) and it would boot up a recovery mode that way; has anyone attempted this?
....Just a thought towards root or atleast custom recovery
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The way I understand is the locked or bug in NAND will not allow for a recover. It removes all SU permissions on reboot.

Big Dawg 23 said:
The way I understand is the locked or bug in NAND will not allow for a recover. It removes all SU permissions on reboot.
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i feel as if if we can get into fastboot and do modifications that way (thanks Modaco) why cant we go even further to be that a means of rooting; with appropriate scripts? why is it people are like *sigh* i have no root but i have temp root.......nand locked but i can do **** with android actually open; what if there was a way to initiate visionary on run.....before actual loading the os like the steps as
power on > visionary/turn into custom recov or custom boot like magldr is supposed to be> os?

This thread can't be serious.
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unforgiven512 said:
This thread can't be serious.
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so it cant be serious because i have an idea? that can help speed up the development for your phone? thanks guy

s0xpan said:
i feel as if if we can get into fastboot and do modifications that way (thanks Modaco) why cant we go even further to be that a means of rooting; with appropriate scripts? why is it people are like *sigh* i have no root but i have temp root.......nand locked but i can do **** with android actually open; what if there was a way to initiate visionary on run.....before actual loading the os like the steps as
power on > visionary/turn into custom recov or custom boot like magldr is supposed to be> os?
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Have you contributed anything to the G2 root effort? Some of the best Android hackers are working to root this phone; in fact many of the same ones who came up with the method you posted in your first post.

im actually attempting but with any type of movement requires a brainstorming; so i was literally brainstorming outloud......i cant help if my ideas have been thought of you kno

There's a thinktank thread, it was posted there, it won't work.
Sent from my HDfied HTC Desire

Not trying to be rude, but present some facts. Try it out. Show us the code. Explain your findings. And present your idea in a clean, intelligent, organized manner. That means capital letters. That means punctuation. That means use the space bar.
I agree with, I'd say, ~90% of the other users here. All the useless crap in this forum is doing absolutely nothing towards getting actual development accomplished.
Mods: Please lock and/or delete this thread. Also, I apologize for wasting an entry in the SQL database. =P
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well i have an idea; ima pursue it the clockwork mod has been proven to not work so ima attempt ; ima get this working even though i dont have contact with too many devs working on this phone

s0xpan said:
well i have an idea; ima pursue it the clockwork mod has been proven to not work so ima attempt ; ima get this working even though i dont have contact with too many devs working on this phone
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Haha good luck. People keep posting about what should be done yet have no idea what actually goes on to do any of this stuff. It isn't as simple as "making" it, you have to know HOW to make it. Please go to the think tank thread.

thinktank thread is good but the WIKI is even better. I just wish it was updated more often -- but anyway this thing has everything short of #g2root irc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Intro
READ THIS REALLY F*CKING CAREFULLY --- it is great reading. If you have ideas after reading it (i said read it dont glance it dont masturbate on it just read it as if it was your last will and testament) and then speak up.

Look not to rain on ur parade buddy but in order to do that on the mts you first had to install the enginering img to the phone that allows unsigned packages. Now since we have a copy of the eng img for the g2 (we as in the devs not me) and the phone will not let you downgrade to it so therefore the mts way of loading a custom recovery won't work. I traded in my mts to get my g2.

androidcues said:
thinktank thread is good but the WIKI is even better. I just wish it was updated more often -- but anyway this thing has everything short of #g2root irc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Intro
READ THIS REALLY F*CKING CAREFULLY --- it is great reading. If you have ideas after reading it (i said read it dont glance it dont masturbate on it just read it as if it was your last will and testament) and then speak up.
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Wow, I didn't even know this existed. Thanks mate!
As for OP, post this in the thinktank thread. Why did you bother making your own thread? You only had an idea, which is what the other thread is for. If you had tried it out and had success, then it may be a different story.

Don't post stuff here unless you get permission

[Q] When will we see ONE X “official firmware” that we can flash

Hi just wondering if anybody knows when we will see official firmware that we can play around with, and what is the process of flashing HTC phones, this being my first HTC, do they have simple programs like odin that I use with my gs2?

Your phone is already running "official firmware". As for flashing HTC phones, it's all done through the recovery menu. Things may be different for the One X as it's running Tegra 3 but as for now HTC phones do not have anything equivalent to ODIN.

Ok I see that method is fine, what I meant with “official firmware realises” is when will they be released so we can try different country’s/carriers firmware, for example on gs2’s you can get everything from the first realises of gingerbread to the latest ICS realises from all different country’s/carriers.

Not at present, no. We need S-OFF for that (the equivalent of fully unlocking the bootloader on a Samsung device)
At the moment we can go custom or use the ROM your phone came with

EddyOS said:
Not at present, no. We need S-OFF for that (the equivalent of fully unlocking the bootloader on a Samsung device)
At the moment we can go custom or use the ROM your phone came with
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Thanks thats the answer I was looking for, so do you know if htc plan on allowing it or do you know of anyone working to get around this issue.

droid_er said:
Thanks thats the answer I was looking for, so do you know if htc plan on allowing it or do you know of anyone working to get around this issue.
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they are working on it as we speaking. there is a thread in the general forum. Hopefully it will not be that long till we have the s-off.
Here you go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1604300

awesome can't wait! and thanks guys for explaining it as I am a noob with htc devices.

droid_er said:
awesome can't wait! and thanks guys for explaining it as I am a noob with htc devices.
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haha no worries same here mate. still trying to get to grips with the whole rooting process and flashing stuff here..my advice is best to read the guides on each rom thread. and also the tutorials that are available...trust me they do come in handly

Just unlocked bootloader (S-ON) Some help please

I would apreciate some help here as i got really confused.
I just unlocked my bootloader from HTCDev just to discover that I cannot install custom recovery, I cannot have root access and there are no recent custom ROMs to install (I need a stable one but recent, not older than mine - 2.3.5)
Could you help me by answering, what's the point of unlocking bootloader if I can't have the above?
I need to use sdcard for apps but for this, Root is required which is not able.
I need custom ROM (if there is one which is fine tuned with better performance, battery, and lighter)
I need to use apps that need root access, i.e titanium backup, etc. how can I use them without root?

So is this forum really dead? I remember it was more alive a few months ago.
I'm abandoning my efforts since I have to recover the phone back to normal use but it's a pitty that things are like that here.

First things first........as a senior member you should know well to post questions in the General section ONLY
Second..... if you have unlocked the bootloader correctly(i know you might have done that), root via Doomlord's easy root kit....
As far as the recovery is concerned...use Rom manager..... it's the easiest way
And the "aliveness" of the forum is quite well as compared to other fora...... the other mid-range phones may have more roms but a majority of them are PURE KITCHEN WORK while others have a little framework changes in CM7..... so there's no extra choice as compared to our phones.....
If you want good roms, mindhaxer/einstein.frat's(they both are the same) roms are good sense ones
Or you can try CM7 or CM9 if you are an AOSP fan
I hope this long post is the answer to all your points in your 2 posts

First of all, thanks for answering.
Second, even if I posted in Q&A, I don't believe I would get any different answers and,
third and most important, I have done my reasearch thoroughly but couldn't find this part you mentioned anywhere so I was trying to gain root with many other methods like super tool, etc. Now, if those guides are not stickies how could I possibly know where to find those steps? they were not even in the first 4-5 pages of the WFS forum.
Yes as a senior member I decided it would be wiser to post here in order to have better chances but maybe I'm wrong.
Anyway, I have to thank you again because you guided me to find the DooMLoRD package which wasn't mentioned anywhere else and now in a few minutes I managed to root the phone which I abandoned a few hours ago.
I still insist though that this info must be gathered here as sticky otherwise new comers will always be confused and need years to manage something which in other forums is managed in minutes.

andreasy said:
First of all, thanks for answering.
Second, even if I posted in Q&A, I don't believe I would get any different answers and,
third and most important, I have done my reasearch thoroughly but couldn't find this part you mentioned anywhere so I was trying to gain root with many other methods like super tool, etc. Now, if those guides are not stickies how could I possibly know where to find those steps? they were not even in the first 4-5 pages of the WFS forum.
Yes as a senior member I decided it would be wiser to post here in order to have better chances but maybe I'm wrong.
Anyway, I have to thank you again because you guided me to find the DooMLoRD package which wasn't mentioned anywhere else and now in a few minutes I managed to root the phone which I abandoned a few hours ago.
I still insist though that this info must be gathered here as sticky otherwise new comers will always be confused and need years to manage something which in other forums is managed in minutes.
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I agree with you I've been trying to figure out the rooting of this phone for the past two hours, I never bother posting for help as you always get scolded and people say duh use search which is really helpful.
I did I didn't find the answers. this forum is a bit of a mess tbh compared to the onex forum..

Cynabal said:
I agree with you I've been trying to figure out the rooting of this phone for the past two hours, I never bother posting for help as you always get scolded and people say duh use search which is really helpful.
I did I didn't find the answers. this forum is a bit of a mess tbh compared to the onex forum..
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If you need any help from here just let me know. I have already root on my phone and it's quite easy once you have all the steps in hand.

Cynabal said:
I agree with you I've been trying to figure out the rooting of this phone for the past two hours, I never bother posting for help as you always get scolded and people say duh use search which is really helpful.
I did I didn't find the answers. this forum is a bit of a mess tbh compared to the onex forum..
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I went from complete noob to unlocking, installing cwm and then a custom rom by doing a lot of reading in xda and other forums. The info is all there!
You expect to spend 2hrs reading and know how to root, you need to spend more time learning, and the more time time you spend the less chance of messing it up.
I spent a lot more than 2hrs and all went fine and I've never had a problem.
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andreasy said:
First of all, thanks for answering.
Second, even if I posted in Q&A, I don't believe I would get any different answers and,
third and most important, I have done my reasearch thoroughly but couldn't find this part you mentioned anywhere so I was trying to gain root with many other methods like super tool, etc. Now, if those guides are not stickies how could I possibly know where to find those steps? they were not even in the first 4-5 pages of the WFS forum.
Yes as a senior member I decided it would be wiser to post here in order to have better chances but maybe I'm wrong.
Anyway, I have to thank you again because you guided me to find the DooMLoRD package which wasn't mentioned anywhere else and now in a few minutes I managed to root the phone which I abandoned a few hours ago.
I still insist though that this info must be gathered here as sticky otherwise new comers will always be confused and need years to manage something which in other forums is managed in minutes.
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Its not about getting an answer to your question. Its about keeping this section clutter free. Its the development section for a reason, and I'm mighty sure I'm not seeing a custom ROM in this thread.
So follow the rules and post in General or Q&A next time.
Sent from my E10i using XDA

Ok I see. Now I have 2 options: reply or shut up and leave. I'll do both.
Firstly I apologise for intentionally posting in the wrong thread (I had my reasons). I won't do it again, actually I won't post anything here again as that was a one time task for me.
Second, I see that you are ready and willing to give me lessons and increase your thanks meter between each other but before teaching me how much time of reading is necessary before you root, let me tell you that I was in xda long before you and I know very well both how much reading is necessary but I also know what the spirit of a community is. There are mods here who didn't get irritated as fast as you. From the speed of your answers I recognise that you must not be older than 25 which doesn't make you mature so @scott_doyland, your opinion is accepted but I was a noob on 2005 and I have performed the root procedure on more than 6-7 phones just by reading so I've done my homework plenty of times and you know what? You don't need 2 hours to root a phone. Actually I need about 30 minutes max including the reading I do on the instructions of each phone. Only on this forum I didn't find all the info gathered and before you jump answering on that, I'm not complaining about this but that's the reason I posted in order to get an answer and avoid the research of 200 pages. It's you guys that got inflamed about that. So take a lesson from a veteran who broke the rules. The idea of the community is to help each other even if the answer was given several times. Some people may not have the time to read or maybe they have read tons of info on other forums and they are visitors like me and can't spent the same amount of time in all forums for each phone they have to root. I'm adraid that if you can't accept this, you are also breaking the rules. Do you see my thanks meter? well, not even one of those thanks was taken from posts like yours. Every single thanks I got was from help providing to noobs and to people who didn't do their homework. Maybe you should visit some forums in the DHD section and see what the spirit of community is all about.
I'm sorry for disturbing the calm waters of your forum but you won't see me again anyway. As I said, I spent many hours on other forums of xda, that was a one time stop for me because I had to root this phone and leave and since this forum doesn't have the most friendly structure in regards to info availability (stickies, etc.) I had to ask. I apologised for posting in wrong thread but I also had to pass the message that people willing to become teachers will have to become students, that's why I answered
Now, go ahead, feel free to start attacking and exchanging thanks between each other. You see, I contributed to your community in my own way. Many of you will double their thanks meters by tomorrow. I don't have the time to continue discussion, I have other things to do so, mods, please feel free and delete this post at some point since it doesn't lead anywhere but just take my feedback if you want and organise better the structure of your forum (if you want).

Ok bro. I have a S-ON, Unlocked Bootloader just like you. There are no way to root after u unlocked bootloader (because u need to update to lastest Hboot in order to UBL). I'd tried all tools i can find on xda and NONE of them can be use to root. There also don't have any clear guide for S-ON with UBL show how to install custom rom and get root.
But after few days digging up the forum, i'd managed to install custom rom + root. I share with you:
After your phone bootloader unlocked via HTCdev, your phone sure will have either HBOOT-1.08.0099 or HBOOT-1.09.0099. You'll need a ClockworkMod recovery image on your computer to install rom + root. And you'll need a working Android SDK with Fastboot to do get ClockworkMod working on ur S-ON phone.
OK let's say now you have fastboot folder alr, and know how to use it.
1. Download lastest clockwork mod .img here: http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
2. put the file .img just downloaded to the fastboot folder.
3. Turn off phone, then hold volume down + power ---> wait the menu searching for the zip file (of course we ignore this) then press Power again to go to fastboot menu.
4. connect phone to laptop via usb cable.
5. Open fastboot folder, right click choose open command windows here.
5a. If you are on HBOOT-1.08.0099:
Copy this and right click to the command windows, paste then enter, ur phone will automatic restart to CWM menu:
Code:
fastboot -c "mtdparts=msm_nand:[email protected](misc),[email protected](recovery),[email protected](boot),[email protected](system),[email protected](cache),[email protected](userdata),[email protected](devlog),[email protected](hboot)" boot recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.8-marvel.img
5b. If you are on HBOOT-1.09.0099:
Copy this and right click to the command windows, paste then enter, ur phone will automatic restart to CWM menu:
Code:
fastboot -c "mtdparts=msm_nand:[email protected](misc),[email protected](recovery),[email protected](boot),[email protected](system),[email protected](cache),[email protected](userdata),[email protected](devlog),[email protected](hboot)" boot recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.8-marvel.img
Ok men, now u just download any rom u like, put it to ur memory card and flash rom like normal.
Remember that, everytime u flash new rom, u need to repeat the whole process from step 3 to step 5.
Hope this can help you bro. Cheers for our S-ON
BIG THANKS to this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374926
Dear guy, your topic not yet help me to S-OFF my phone, but it gave me the temporary solution to install custom rom. Cheers to ur good work!!!
P/S: to the thread creator: Why u gave up so early bro...Xda-developers is great forum.

Ok, because many people are confused and PM me about what's next after unlock, here's the answer. Don't try the Super Tool, it doesn't work. At least for some people.
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
and use that script instead. It will flash Busybox and su to your phone. That's it. You have root acces then.
@Ghekua: If you have unlocked your bootloader then you have already installed the apropriate HBOOT. Just run that script from the post I attached above and you will have root access.
Edit: Oh, sorry, I read your post before edit and got different meaning. Anyway, thanks, I used the post above which is much faster and easier and I'm done.

Ghekua, if you install a custom rom it will already have root access, no need to root a custom rom.
I rooted my stock rom just by flashing cwm and then via cwm flashed a root.zip file from xda.
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i know it bro haha. I just post the post there. But i wonder if there is any chance to keep the CWM for S-On so everytime we flash a new rom, we no need to flash CWM again.

ghekua said:
i know it bro haha. I just post the post there. But i wonder if there is any chance to keep the CWM for S-On so everytime we flash a new rom, we no need to flash CWM again.
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Flashing a new rom does not wipe cwm.
Cwm is always there unless you flash a different 'recovery'.
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...this is why people keep asking questions here. Please stop responding to these. Pleaseee?
Sent from my HTC-PG762 using Tapatalk 2

scott_doyland said:
Flashing a new rom does not wipe cwm.
Cwm is always there unless you flash a different 'recovery'.
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it's true for S-OFF bro. For S-On every time flash new rom need to fastboot to flash cwm again.
(i'd tried to install cwm by rom manager app, by flashable zip downloaded from clockworkmod website, no use)

I find downloading alquez's recovery and replacing the android_info file with the last RUU/update [of same], then flashing via hboot to be the simplest solution [since it works on marvel & marvelc].. I just keep that PG76IMG.zip on my sdcard and swapout android_info as needed [no need to sign or anything]. Of course then if you wanted latest-and-greatest [gsm] you'd root [Heritz guide works across board gsm & cdma], install your Rom Manager and reflash. But I like simple solution that works on both my wildfire s's
I do agree this is a general topic and if anyone has read my simplistic thread responses, I've stated above philosophy repeatedly in various threads.. and it seems to always work
Rob
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ghekua said:
it's true for S-OFF bro. For S-On every time flash new rom need to fastboot to flash cwm again.
(i'd tried to install cwm by rom manager app, by flashable zip downloaded from clockworkmod website, no use)
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How strange. I'm s-on and I never have to reflash CWM. I've only ever flashed it twice and the second time was just to upgrade to a later CWM.
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Quick question about the Google play edition Rom....

Hey, I have the Verizon m8 with the Google play rom running. I have heard that running this rom allows you to get the os updates from Google just as fast as the nexus... is this true?
Thanks

TyWadd said:
Hey, I have the Verizon m8 with the Google play rom running. I have heard that running this rom allows you to get the os updates from Google just as fast as the nexus... is this true?
Thanks
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Give or take a few days, yes - so long as you've done the complete RUU conversion. If you've just flashed a custom GPe ROM then no

and have the stock recovery installed

Sorry, I'm kind of a noob at this... what exactly is the ruu and stock recovery?

Read, read, read !!!
TyWadd said:
Sorry, I'm kind of a noob at this... what exactly is the ruu and stock recovery?
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If you're not sure what all that means, then you need to read a LOT more before trying anything on your phone. I've been lurking and reading on XDA for over 4 years and the most common problems occur when a new owner jumps in before truly studying the available information.
Go to the general Android forum and read all about the OS and the "strange" words you see in the posts.
Come back to the M8 forum and read until you really understand the difference between RUU, ROMs, Recovery, fastboot, ADB and all the other nuances of the M8.
If you don't know how to do it without a "kit" then I don't suggest you use a kit. It's a convenience but should not be the only process you know how to use.
Time to Study!

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If you're not sure what all that means, then you need to read a LOT more before trying anything on your phone. I've been lurking and reading on XDA for over 4 years and the most common problems occur when a new owner jumps in before truly studying the available information.
Go to the general Android forum and read all about the OS and the "strange" words you see in the posts.
Come back to the M8 forum and read until you really understand the difference between RUU, ROMs, Recovery, fastboot, ADB and all the other nuances of the M8.
If you don't know how to do it without a "kit" then I don't suggest you use a kit. It's a convenience but should not be the only process you know how to use.
Time to Study!
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I definitely will start reading more! Where does one find this kit? And is that all that I have left to do to get the updates? Flash the stock recovery, and the RUU?

[Q] stock rooted 157?

can someone point me to a 157 stock rooted rom? i can't seem to find it anywhere on this forum. Unless it doesn't exist for some reason?thanks in advance

you are kidding me???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact/development/rom-d550314-4-0-157latest-t2957307

1) check your sarcasm, i'm not your son
2) that's not stock
3) if this is all that's available, i will use it, thank you for pointing me to it.

There is some threads about it that's first. Second you should even type in google or on xda here couple words before starts new thread. Third you should flash 108 kernel than use newroot and after that flash again 157 kernel. And that's all procedure
Happy flashing
Sent from my D5503 using XDA Free mobile app

I wouldn't be here unless my searches came up fruitless.
Answer me this, if i do the OTA update and root that, would it reset my bootloader? i know it will reset the recovery

acme64 said:
I wouldn't be here unless my searches came up fruitless.
Answer me this, if i do the OTA update and root that, would it reset my bootloader? i know it will reset the recovery
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I think I remember reading if you do an OTA with an unlocked bootloader you could brick it.

acme64 said:
I wouldn't be here unless my searches came up fruitless.
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People are baffled how others, especially People with around 500 posts can start such threads when the methods to root can be found in the General section, which have been there for weeks, and if you've not found a stock rooted ROM or as close as in the first few pages of both development threads that suits your needs then you're out of luck. Simply flash a stock ftf and root it if you want a clean as possible ROM, then mod it to your own needs.

acme64 said:
I wouldn't be here unless my searches came up fruitless.
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Thats most People say who start such threads when what they're asking for is usually on the first or second page of the General section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/son...rmeare-d5503customized-de1279-697814-t2931326

how you feel about it is irrelevant, if i'm telling you my search didn't work, it didn't work. Why would i voluntarily be dicking around here wasting time with you sarcastic people?
I appreciate the link

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if i'm telling you my search didn't work, it didn't work.
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Again, members with nearly 500 posts should know where to find the most common files, so telling People you've searched, except for using your eyes as pointed out, then expect a little sarcasm.