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Do you guys think well eventually get ICS?

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honestly? id say 2-1 we get official ics...it was promising that the og inc got official gb over a year after release, and id imagine we will probably get it
of course, worst case scenario we ll get aosp ics...ie cm etc

I think it will be a Christmas present to all of us.

I don't see us getting a vanilla form of ICS. That would totally change the look of what the standard non rooted user would be used to and cause panic.
It would be interesting to see how ICS and Sense will work together though and I would expect to see a version on Sense 2.1 with ICS more then anything
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tincbtrar said:
I don't see us getting a vanilla form of ICS. That would totally change the look of what the standard non rooted user would be used to and cause panic.
It would be interesting to see how ICS and Sense will work together though and I would expect to see a version on Sense 2.1 with ICS more then anything
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we wouldnt get vanilla ics from htc...just from devs building aosp
sense 4.0 is supposedly for ics
thats actually the bigger question mark imo
would we get sense 4.0 and ics or a dumbed down sense and ics?
idk what htc's take on that is

The actual ICS? Never officially, but 100% likely from XDA/Rootzwiki.
Will probably get a "Sensed Up" version by the middle of next year or maybe closer to Fall of '12, the fact that it's on Verizon adds at least half a year of development time. And also since it's not the HTC Evo or Sensation, they are not as eager to push new OS updates to them, so that is another number of months.
Regardless, ICS will be ported to the Inc2, and then just as with 3.0 and 3.5, we will get the Sense version ported to the Inc2 as well. Just don't hold your breath for anything official. More likely that some bored forum member will do the work than a multi-million dollar company like HTC.

nitsuj17 said:
we wouldnt get vanilla ics from htc...just from devs building aosp
sense 4.0 is supposedly for ics
thats actually the bigger question mark imo
would we get sense 4.0 and ics or a dumbed down sense and ics?
idk what htc's take on that is
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Definitely expect a dumbed down form of sense. But who knows? I've been wrong before and will be wrong again in my life. Lol

Htc has already announced the devices that will get official ics, and unfortunately dinc2 isn't on the list
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ftmaniac948 said:
Htc has already announced the devices that will get official ics, and unfortunately dinc2 isn't on the list
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F**k HTC.
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They will probably claim that current phones are not capable of running ICS, too outdated.

PharmCAT said:
They will probably claim that current phones are not capable of running ICS, too outdated.
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Which is total bs since I have ics on my fascinate now as a sdk alpha build and its pretty smooth and comparing that to this this is butter
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If they announce that the Inc2 is getting ICS now, it may possibly kill the sales of the Rezound. Just thinking out loud.

Google even said themselves that any phone running gingerbread can run ICS.
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knipp21 said:
F**k HTC.
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second that lol

I truly hope we do get ICS. By all accounts our phones are capable of running it.

We will get it, but it will be via are great developers.
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Head over to android police looks like Google released some code

Linch89 said:
Head over to android police looks like Google released some code
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404. That’s an error.
The requested URL /source/downloading.htmlCheck was not found on this server. That’s all we know.
wait i see it now
no link

ubuntunerd said:
404. That’s an error.
The requested URL /source/downloading.htmlCheck was not found on this server. That’s all we know.
wait i see it now
no link
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The source is out there man
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yes I just saw

Good purchase at this time?

Is this a good purchase right now? In the situation i'm in if I don't get this phone I will be stuck with my nexus s for 2 years so might as well get a new phone for the 2 years. Also do you guys think this will get CM9? Thanks.!

Darrien13 said:
Is this a good purchase right now? In the situation i'm in if I don't get this phone I will be stuck with my nexus s for 2 years so might as well get a new phone for the 2 years. Also do you guys think this will get CM9? Thanks.!
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This phone is getting CM9 eventually. Cyanogen's update said it was coming after the international version s2 one rolls out.

Yo bro this is the best phone T-Mobile has believe me u won't be disappointed grab it. And yes we will get cm9 after the exynos devices. snapdragon is next and devices alike and were in this category

CM9 will come. This device is the top 3 devices out right now, and will still be relevant after a year or more.

short answer: yes

I took advantage of the FAR V-day sales last week. I was tempted to wait for the Galaxy Nexus, but it seem T-Mo is always the last one to get any decent phones. Since my Nexus One was showing its age, I ordered the GS2 and renewed a 2yr contract. I figured as long as the hw is capable of running custom ROM's, it really doesn't matter if it's the Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy S2.

Darrien13 said:
Is this a good purchase right now? In the situation i'm in if I don't get this phone I will be stuck with my nexus s for 2 years so might as well get a new phone for the 2 years. Also do you guys think this will get CM9? Thanks.!
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cyanogenmod's website mentioned that cm9 is coming for us next(sgs2 with the msm8660)
but it probably wont be here for at least another month

AznDud333 said:
cyanogenmod's website mentioned that cm9 is coming for us next(sgs2 with the msm8660)
but it probably wont be here for at least another month
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Im pretty sure we are apq 8060 Chip set its just another variant of qualcomms s3 same family tho correct me if I'm wrong

sarni84 said:
Im pretty sure we are apq 8060 Chip set its just another variant of qualcomms s3 same family tho correct me if I'm wrong
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you're correct, but the apq8060 and msm8X60 are pretty much the same thing.
i believe the difference is radio integration, but i don't know for sure.

funeralthirst said:
you're correct, but the apq8060 and msm8X60 are pretty much the same thing.
i believe the difference is radio integration, but i don't know for sure.
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U are also correct the msm gets evdo and more radio frequencies basically for other carriers

chlehqls said:
CM9 will come. This device is the top 3 devices out right now, and will still be relevant after a year or more.
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ROTFL-COPTR dude.
By the time CM9 comes out, many other phones that are far better than the GS2 will be out, including the GS3.
If you really want CM, get a phone that supports it initially.

What phones would that be?
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Karakoram2 said:
What phones would that be?
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Well the HTC Sensation would be one of those phones.
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sarni84 said:
Im pretty sure we are apq 8060 Chip set its just another variant of qualcomms s3 same family tho correct me if I'm wrong
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apq8060 is the soc
msm8660 is the chipset, just look at the phone info(on our actual phone)

onyx00 said:
ROTFL-COPTR dude.
By the time CM9 comes out, many other phones that are far better than the GS2 will be out, including the GS3.
If you really want CM, get a phone that supports it initially.
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we will have ICS before official OTA or cm I think. xobarder is good

jessejames111981 said:
we will have ICS before official OTA or cm I think. xobarder is good
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I agree he is a great dev. but will he build drivers from scratch? will ics run right without drivers?
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jordanishere said:
I agree he is a great dev. but will he build drivers from scratch? will ics run right without drivers?
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No we definitely need the drivers that's why we need Samsung to drop ics. Because building drivers from scratch is no easy task. It can be done but will take a while. That is why a lot of devs rather wait for that it will make life that much easier when compiling a rom. I know xboarder said he is building drivers tho. We need those for sound, touchscreen, and etc.. also cm prolly has already done this we will prolly see something from them before official

sarni84 said:
No we definitely need the drivers that's why we need Samsung to drop ics. Because building drivers from scratch is no easy task. It can be done but will take a while. That is why a lot of devs rather wait for that it will make life that much easier when compiling a rom. I know xboarder said he is building drivers tho. We need those for sound, touchscreen, and etc.. also cm prolly has already done this we will prolly see something from them before official
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There was an article on rootz wiki where they interviewed cyanogen. he said they are waiting for drivers as well and this is what is delaying cm9 official builds.
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HTC One S RUU release

Would it be possible to port the RUU for the DInc2 by any chance? Because it would be pretty epic if it could happen.
"All of those bacon strips"

david_hume said:
Would it be possible to port the RUU for the DInc2 by any chance? Because it would be pretty epic if it could happen.
"All of those bacon strips"
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still no booting hacked up .35 kernel to run sense on....and since no one but me even gave it a shot....
i dont see it happening

nitsuj17 said:
still no booting hacked up .35 kernel to run sense on....and since no one but me even gave it a shot....
i dont see it happening
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Man, that's a bummer. If only I knew how to make roms.... Maybe I'll try to learn during my free time. Thanks for the honest answer.
"All of those bacon strips"

nitsuj17 said:
still no booting hacked up .35 kernel to run sense on....and since no one but me even gave it a shot....
i dont see it happening
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I wish I had the time or knowledge bro. You think twisted umbrella would take a look at the kernel for us?
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knipp21 said:
I wish I had the time or knowledge bro. You think twisted umbrella would take a look at the kernel for us?
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there are a lot of differences in the changes that need to be made between the sense kernels and aosp ones to boot ics (afaik)
might work, might not i cant really say

nitsuj17 said:
there are a lot of differences in the changes that need to be made between the sense kernels and aosp ones to boot ics (afaik)
might work, might not i cant really say
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Inc S has a working kernel, could that kernel be modded to work for us?
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Macrodroid said:
Inc S has a working kernel, could that kernel be modded to work for us?
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potentially yes, i talked to cjward from virtuous and he said they would try to at some point for vivow but they dont have the device and are still working ics sense stuff out for phones they do have

Will JB be 100% working for our phone when the tools are released?

At the IO google said that they would release JB developer tools for JB. So will we have the full potential of 4.1 JB?
I ask this because JB probably won't be released (offically) for our phone.
PS: do you think the performance boosts of JB will have an significant effect on our phone? It seemed to on the nexus.

Probably not. We don't have kernel source for ICS as it is, even though our phone is slated to get it, but I wouldn't count on it so getting JB to work on our phone is highly unlikely.
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AJGO23 said:
Probably not. We don't have kernel source for ICS as it is, even though our phone is slated to get it, but I wouldn't count on it so getting JB to work on our phone is highly unlikely.
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I'm 76% sure we will get ICS. They have it for the S and they said they would release it at the end of August.
You must consider that JB is just an updated ICS. So we don't need an offical JB to have it running 100%. And Google will have a dev tool out that may help us. Lastly they have a dump floating around. Chances are that we can use that to help us build a 100% working ASOP JB build. But this all depends on when or if we get ICS.
Can a dev jump in and let me know of my logic is correct
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joefrog1996 said:
I'm 76% sure we will get ICS. They have it for the S and they said they would release it at the end of August.
You must consider that JB is just an updated ICS. So we don't need an offical JB to have it running 100%. And Google will have a dev tool out that may help us. Lastly they have a dump floating around. Chances are that we can use that to help us build a 100% working ASOP JB build. But this all depends on when or if we get ICS.
Can a dev jump in and let me know of my logic is correct
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I'm no dev but I have GREAT news!!!
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Linch89 said:
I'm no dev but I have GREAT news!!!
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You sir win the Internet.
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joefrog1996 said:
I'm 76% sure we will get ICS. They have it for the S and they said they would release it at the end of August.
You must consider that JB is just an updated ICS. So we don't need an offical JB to have it running 100%. And Google will have a dev tool out that may help us. Lastly they have a dump floating around. Chances are that we can use that to help us build a 100% working ASOP JB build. But this all depends on when or if we get ICS.
Can a dev jump in and let me know of my logic is correct
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And you believe everything HTC and Verizon tells you...? that Dev tool is worthless if it doesn't include specific Dinc 2 files that goes once again back to kernel source. That dump isn't as useful to us as you think otherwise we would have fully working ICS on our phones from ICS dumps. Trust me, if it were as simple as you believe it is, our devs would have done it already. The situation with JB is pretty much the same as ICS if not worse since there is also the issue of resizing XHDPI JB to WVGA because there are no JB phones with WVGA resolution. Don't quote me on that last part, but I'm sure a dev can correct me or explain it better.
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AJGO23 said:
And you believe everything HTC and Verizon tells you...? that Dev tool is worthless if it doesn't include specific Dinc 2 files that goes once again back to kernel source. That dump isn't as useful to us as you think otherwise we would have fully working ICS on our phones from ICS dumps. Trust me, if it were as simple as you believe it is, our devs would have done it already. The situation with JB is pretty much the same as ICS if not worse since there is also the issue of resizing XHDPI JB to WVGA because there are no JB phones with WVGA resolution. Don't quote me on that last part, but I'm sure a dev can correct me or explain it better.
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Nexus S will receive the update and it is a single core WVGA phone. So, I'll be looking closely on feedback from Nexus S users. That should give us an idea of the performance gains that we can theoretically expect, if any, over ICS. And there is no need to be overly cynical about HTC and their promise of giving us ICS. They said they will by August end and so just wait for it. Regardless of what may have happened in the past, you will just burden your mind with needless thoughts...
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litetaker said:
Nexus S will receive the update and it is a single core WVGA phone. So, I'll be looking closely on feedback from Nexus S users. That should give us an idea of the performance gains that we can theoretically expect, if any, over ICS. And there is no need to be overly cynical about HTC and their promise of giving us ICS. They said they will by August end and so just wait for it. Regardless of what may have happened in the past, you will just burden your mind with needless thoughts...
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They said to be determined by the end of August which is a big difference. And honestly at this point I don't really care if we get official ICS anymore I'm pretty content with the work that our devs have done so far without it, if official ICS is so important to some of these users they might as well have just stayed stock and waited for an OTA. I don't mean to take this out on you personally, but these threads about JB and "perfect and bugless" ICS roms have gotten ridiculously out of hand. Not to mention the amount of user that lack to read the threads let alone the OP when it comes to figuring out what bugs exist. Not directed at you at all, but more towards the users that have lately been demanding and expecting stuff from devs and not really contributing back to the community. I'm sure you've seen some of those posts. End rant
On second thought I shouldn't be on XDA at 2 morning when I have to be up at 7. No hard feelings? :beer:
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AJGO23 said:
They said to be determined by the end of August which is a big difference.
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Its been clarified by reps at both HTC and VZW that what they meant was that the date is to be decided but that we will have it by the end of August. Take that for what you will, as I don't believe there has been anything official that clarifies this. I am pretty confident that we will get it and can only hope that we will get kernel source soon after.
Back to the OP's question, I highly doubt that we will have a 100% working JB rom anytime soon considering we still have issues on ALL of our ICS roms. Once we have official ICS our awesome dev's will probably be able to get JB working well pretty quickly.
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cstone1991 said:
I am pretty confident that we will get it and can only hope that we will get kernel source soon after.
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HTC has to release kernel source regardless because of the Chinese OTA they released. It might be as late as October, but they have to release it regardless or else they'd be in violation of some law that has an acronym I can't remember.
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joefrog1996 said:
I'm 76% sure we will get ICS. They have it for the S and they said they would release it at the end of August.
You must consider that JB is just an updated ICS. So we don't need an offical JB to have it running 100%. And Google will have a dev tool out that may help us. Lastly they have a dump floating around. Chances are that we can use that to help us build a 100% working ASOP JB build. But this all depends on when or if we get ICS.
Can a dev jump in and let me know of my logic is correct
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i am only 27.381818% that you are actually 76% sure that jellybean, we will get
i used 45/7 ths of my brainpower to answer this

nitsuj17 said:
i am only 27.381818% that you are actually 76% sure that jellybean, we will get
i used 45/7 ths of my brainpower to answer this
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I didn't say anything about JB in 76%, and to be honest I don't think there is a chance of us getting official JB. We don't even know about official ICS for the dinc 2 yet.
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joefrog1996 said:
I didn't say anything about JB in 76%, and to be honest I don't think there is a chance of us getting official JB. We don't even know about official ICS for the dinc 2 yet.
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Just stop while you're ahead.
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AJGO23 said:
They said to be determined by the end of August which is a big difference. And honestly at this point I don't really care if we get official ICS anymore I'm pretty content with the work that our devs have done so far without it, if official ICS is so important to some of these users they might as well have just stayed stock and waited for an OTA. I don't mean to take this out on you personally, but these threads about JB and "perfect and bugless" ICS roms have gotten ridiculously out of hand. Not to mention the amount of user that lack to read the threads let alone the OP when it comes to figuring out what bugs exist. Not directed at you at all, but more towards the users that have lately been demanding and expecting stuff from devs and not really contributing back to the community. I'm sure you've seen some of those posts. End rant
On second thought I shouldn't be on XDA at 2 morning when I have to be up at 7. No hard feelings? :beer:
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OTA ICS will (should) help remove many of the small bugs we have with Camera etc... And once we get a hand on our kernel source, I believe devs will be knee deep in Jellybean goodness... The main reason why I am looking forward for the OTA is for the kernel source... Hell no I am going to go stock.. Once the kernel is up, I am gonna go with Nits' Sense 4 ROM!
The To be determined thing is crappy of them... They say on their FB page that the "Release Date" is the thing to be determined, NOT whether it gets ICS or not... which makes sense given it is in the table of release dates and given they previously confirmed to give it ICS... anyway, time will tell... No breaking my head on this...
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nitsuj17 said:
i am only 27.381818% that you are actually 76% sure that jellybean, we will get
i used 45/7 ths of my brainpower to answer this
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45/7 > 1 !!!
You used more brain power than you HAVE!! Hope you didn't burn out and fuse your brain... We need you for the Sense 4a ROM...

litetaker said:
OTA ICS will (should) help remove many of the small bugs we have with Camera etc...
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We really only need the kernal for ASOP. IC sense 3.6 has fully working cam.... IDK about video. Phone video is pointless because it has low FPS and the audio is terrible.
Why is camera always better on sense?
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joefrog1996 said:
We really only need the kernal for ASOP. IC sense 3.6 has fully working cam.... IDK about video. Phone video is pointless because it has low FPS and the audio is terrible.
Why is camera always better on sense?
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Yeah, I should try that ROM too, sometime... I was wondering how functional it is... The Sense 4 ROM has some issues with GPS too (if you toggle it, it will not come back on). But I don't like how Sense 3.6 is.

Even if we don't get an OTA HTC still has to release source because of the Chinese and Inc S ICS OTA. That's why I don't understand why some of the other users are so anxious for an official OTA, even with these other OTAs flash timing appears to still have not been fixed, whatever that is I haven't had it happen personally (knock on wood). We all need to relax and just wait for source to be posted and let the devs do their thing.
On a different topic, anyone else thing the default sig on the XDA app is kind of redundant?
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litetaker said:
Yeah, I should try that ROM too, sometime... I was wondering how functional it is... The Sense 4 ROM has some issues with GPS too (if you toggle it, it will not come back on). But I don't like how Sense 3.6 is.
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In my experience it was bugless (IC 3.6) although it was laggy. It was laggy in the wrong places (homescreen, and scrolling through certain apps) and smooth in the wrong places (app drawer, GP, settings).
You need to check it out
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AJGO23 said:
Even if we don't get an OTA HTC still has to release source because of the Chinese and Inc S ICS OTA. That's why I don't understand why some of the other users are so anxious for an official OTA, even with these other OTAs flash timing appears to still have not been fixed, whatever that is I haven't had it happen personally (knock on wood). We all need to relax and just wait for source to be posted and let the devs do their thing.
On a different topic, anyone else thing the default sig on the XDA app is kind of redundant?
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I agree, there were a few things that happened recently that have gotten us excited..... (The S getting ICS and JB)....... but we need to chill out. And in the mean time enjoy what we DO have, and not think about what we don't and might not get.
Funny thing is this thread only exists becuase of the recent changes.
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10-4

Incredible S kernel source released!

Just took a glance over at HTCdev.com and the Incredible S kernel sources are available for download. Could this help us???

dirtsky said:
Just took a glance over at HTCdev.com and the Incredible S kernel sources are available for download. Could this help us???
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Not as much as our own would, but could help the aosp guys to some extent I suppose

nitsuj17 said:
Not as much as our own would, but could help the aosp guys to some extent I suppose
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That's what I thought. I hope to see it is put to good use.

Niceeee.....This is good news. The Incredible S got their ICS update like two months ago about? So, maybe the Incredble 2 source will be two months from now? I sure hope not, but maybe they will follow the same pattern,

Probably not too much, but maybe. We need our own.
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Not as much as our own would, but could help the aosp guys to some extent I suppose
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I'm surprised, I thought this would have helped a ton since the phones are nearly identical. Is there any real difference? Just MSM8255 vs. MSM8655?

I'm certainly no dev but I would think this might help with camera issues right? I'm sure Aerovan will tear this appart and see what he can do with it. Out of curiosity, would chinese Dinc2 kernel source be better than this? I only ask because I am guessing that theirs will come out before ours.