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Is Google required to provide Jellybean to GN before GS3?
Since my GN is a VZW phone, I have a feeling that it will get Jellybean after the GS3 gets it.... or am I wrong?
Huh? why would Google be required to provide Jelly Bean? It's all open source.
New flagship device (Nexus tablet or Nexus 4) will get Jelly Bean first be cause it will be launched.
Galaxy Nexus (GSM: yakju/takju) will follow.
Nexus S (GSM) will follow.
VZW will need to wait for Verizon to approve of Google's update. I know I'm missing Sprint but you get the idea.
I am completely positive in telling you that the Galaxy Nexus will get Jellybean before the GSIII.
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centerwaters said:
Is Google required to provide Jellybean to GN before GS3?
Since my GN is a VZW phone, I have a feeling that it will get Jellybean after the GS3 gets it.... or am I wrong?
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I don't believe it is required but the gnex will get it ages before the gs3 even dreams of having it because the gnex is an aosp device where as Samsung will take jelly bean and bloat it down with touchwiz and Samsung apps... then it goes to the carriers and they put their apps on and somewhere along the line it just might reach the gs3
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I'm so glad you made this thread
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Ngo93 said:
I am completely positive in telling you that the Galaxy Nexus will get Jellybean before the GSIII.
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I wouldn't bet on that. If we're talking about the GSIII in the USA I would agree with you but overseas or unlocked is a different story. I'm sure one of the overseas variants of the GSIII will see a Jelly Bean ota before we do (VZW/CDMA). We haven't even officially gotten 4.0.4 yet.
GNex will definitely get JB first. The G3 is running Touchwiz, so even when JellyBean is ready, Samsung will need to modify the IU. Regardless of the G3 being a "flagship device" Nexus devices will always get the updates first because they are pure Android.
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"Required"? lol. Not sure what you mean by that. Google makes the OS. Who would be holding them accountable to be "required" to do something?
But you know that it will... I mean think about it. They make Jellybean for the new Nexus + old Nexus (that's us). Then they give it to Samsung (and others) who make it all skinned and stuff for their devices.
It necessarily gets JB first...
martonikaj said:
"Required"? lol. Not sure what you mean by that.
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duh, that means if they don't the little green android police will come knocking...
lrs421 said:
I wouldn't bet on that. If we're talking about the GSIII in the USA I would agree with you but overseas or unlocked is a different story. I'm sure one of the overseas variants of the GSIII will see a Jelly Bean ota before we do (VZW/CDMA). We haven't even officially gotten 4.0.4 yet.
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Hard to say. ICS was developed on a Nexus S.
adrynalyne said:
Hard to say. ICS was developed on a Nexus S.
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Is this sarcasm?
Just curious, if it's true that ICS was developed on the Nexus S why did it take so long for the Nexus S to get it?
Couldn't find anything on google search for "ice cream sandwich develop on nexus s" so thought I'd ask...
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duh, that means if they don't the little green android police will come knocking...
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Wouldn't they have the recuse themselves, since Google created them?
It reminds me of the movie "Robocop" where the robocop was programmed
with a specific directive preventing him from arresting exeutives of OCP.
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I wouldn't bet on that. If we're talking about the GSIII in the USA I would agree with you but overseas or unlocked is a different story. I'm sure one of the overseas variants of the GSIII will see a Jelly Bean ota before we do (VZW/CDMA). We haven't even officially gotten 4.0.4 yet.
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Unlocked GSM ftw
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adrynalyne said:
Hard to say. ICS was developed on a Nexus S.
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I hear ya, and the same will likely be true for JB. I should've said, GSM will likely see it first; CDMA, probably not.
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ap3604 said:
Is this sarcasm?
Just curious, if it's true that ICS was developed on the Nexus S why did it take so long for the Nexus S to get it?
Couldn't find anything on google search for "ice cream sandwich develop on nexus s" so thought I'd ask...
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...did I sound sarcastic?
No, I was dead serious. First glimpse of ICS ever was on a Nexus S. As for why it took so long...because they probably wanted the GN to be released first.
Then they did their little peepee dance and canceled the 4.0.3 push shortly after it began for whatever reason.
The GNex and NS will both get Jellybean before the GS3 IMO.
Why would the carriers and/or Samsung upgrade the GS3 asap? What incentive do they have? They don't, so they won't.
Google isn't required to do anything but my bet us that gn gets jellybean much much sooner for the before mentioned reasons and judging by the past. If the hardware is capable it will get it. The nexus s got ics same day that the Verizon galaxy Nexus came out.
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The CDMA (Verizon) Galaxy Nexus is not really an unlocked "Nexus" phone in the traditional Google definition (like the GSM pentaband version) in the sense that it is still "locked" to Verizon's will to get an update. Real Google phones get updates pushed directly from Google servers. Heck they can't even switch SIM cards or use other providers or use it abroad with international SIMs.
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The CDMA (Verizon) Galaxy Nexus is not really an unlocked "Nexus" phone in the traditional Google definition (like the GSM pentaband version) in the sense that it is still "locked" to Verizon's will to get an update. Real Google phones get updates pushed directly from Google servers. Heck they can't even switch SIM cards or use other providers or use it abroad with international SIMs.
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I have been wondering about that since I got my GN back in December.
Does Google have to get Verizon's permission in order to push OTA update to CDMA Galaxy Nexus phones?
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The CDMA (Verizon) Galaxy Nexus is not really an unlocked "Nexus" phone in the traditional Google definition (like the GSM pentaband version) in the sense that it is still "locked" to Verizon's will to get an update. Real Google phones get updates pushed directly from Google servers. Heck they can't even switch SIM cards or use other providers or use it abroad with international SIMs.
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Neither is the Docomo GSM Nexus.
I know I'm going to get flamed for this thread.
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I'm currently with Verizon I have the galaxy nexus but wish I stayed with t mobile or went with att,I had a g1 on release day ordered my nexus 1 when it was available for pre orders. purchased the nexus s, but returned it ASAP because of bugs and reboots. I'm not knocking Verizon, because their network is phenomenal compared to tmobile, but I had so much freedom with tmobile hardware wise the galaxy nexus old but superior to other phones because of its software in only saying that I will no longer purchased anything but a nexus.
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Phones g1, nexus 1, nexus s,Samsung vibrant,g2x, droid x, htc thunderbolt, htc rezound, galaxy nexus.
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Why would we flame you for praising our dear Nexus'?
Yeah, I was coming in to support this remark. I love my G-Nexus. But I had a little touchy touchy thing going on with a Samsung Galaxy SIII the other day at a retail store. Don't tell my phone.........sssssssssh
Valkillmore said:
Yeah, I was coming in to support this remark. I love my G-Nexus. But I had a little touchy touchy thing going on with a Samsung Galaxy SIII the other day at a retail store. Don't tell my phone.........sssssssssh
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You cheater
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More like sinner
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I think the OP's point was GSM Nexus > CDMA Nexus, but he's stuck on a CDMA network. Thus, he was expecting to get flamed
Pretty much.
harveydent said:
I think the OP's point was GSM Nexus > CDMA Nexus, but he's stuck on a CDMA network. Thus, he was expecting to get flamed
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my GF has a LTE Nexus, and i have a GSM model. my phone is far more stable with regards to radio stability. her phone is a mess when it comes to LTE/CDMA handoffs.
i should probably check for a radio update for her phone...
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my GF has a LTE Nexus, and i have a GSM model. my phone is far more stable with regards to radio stability. her phone is a mess when it comes to LTE/CDMA handoffs.
i should probably check for a radio update for her phone...
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As an lte nexus owner, they all suck.
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^Mine doesn't! It's been solid all around since day 1. :good:
At this point in time the gsm Nexus is one of the best deals around. I've been kicking myself for a while now for going with verizon and not prepaid. $350 for the phone and $50 or less a month for service is crazy cheap compared to Verizon or any other postpaid.
The way google did everything, I suspect they planned on this phone hitting its stride 6-8 months after it's release. When the unsubsidized price dropped to reasonable levels, BAM they put it up for sale themselves and put Jellybean on it making the Nexus a superphone that is semi affordable.
I don't get plagued by all these radio issues people talk about.
Having a GSM Nexus isn't possible for me so I'm happy with my CDMA Nexus and I don't think any less or more of the GSM variant.
If only At&t would offer unlimited data I would never have this CDMA crap again.
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If only At&t would offer unlimited data I would never have this CDMA crap again.
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But they do have unlimited hspa+ data plan on ATT for unlocked GSM galaxy nexus... AKA dumb phone plan.
I've been on it for awhile now, and it is solid.
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But they do have unlimited hspa+ data plan on ATT for unlocked GSM galaxy nexus... AKA dumb phone plan.
I've been on it for awhile now, and it is solid.
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I second this
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I have a VZW Galaxy Nexus and I agree with you guys even though I have no rational proof to support my claim.
Please indulge my anecdotal justification instead:
It feels like the GSM versions are better supported, maybe not in the dev community (it still seems like all of the development who provide updates also have GSM versions and I'm very curious to know if any of them use the VZW version as their main phone.) That may or may not be the case but CDMA support from manufacturers seems to be an afterthought at times. VZW doesn't even get some of the nicer phones sometimes. They really came through with getting us the original Droid though. That was a great phone. I haven't had a phone yet that I've liked as much as I liked the Droid when it was new.
I still have to point out that where I live my VZW Nexus still gets me more reliable service (even with its assinine bounces between 3g/LTE in my office) than anyone using a phone on any other carrier. Having a great flashy phone with the latest updates does little good if you can't get online. Sure my coworker gets 40MB/s up and down when he's at the north side of our building but he has to tether to me if he wants to get online where we spend most of the day.
If I spent a lot of time where I could get reliable GSM connections at the price I'm paying VZW with my discount, I'd switch in a heartbeat.
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But they do have unlimited hspa+ data plan on ATT for unlocked GSM galaxy nexus... AKA dumb phone plan.
I've been on it for awhile now, and it is solid.
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Continue..... Please. I am considering dropping Sprint in a month or tow and am looking for the best GSM plan. T-Mobile has it for $30 a month, 100 minutes, unlimited text, unlimited data but 5GB @ 4g speed.
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But they do have unlimited hspa+ data plan on ATT for unlocked GSM galaxy nexus... AKA dumb phone plan.
I've been on it for awhile now, and it is solid.
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Are you talking about the $50 go plan?
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So I went to the sprint store and the rep told me we would not be getting jb until lte is in my area slc Utah it didn't make sense to me anyone have any clue when we are getting jellybean or should I just return my nexus I thought the point of a nexus device is direct otas??
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So I went to the sprint store and the rep told me we would not be getting jb until lte is in my area slc Utah it didn't make sense to me anyone have any clue when we are getting jellybean or should I just return my nexus I thought the point of a nexus device is direct otas??
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That doesn't make sense. That CS rep is an idiot, and has no idea when the OTA is coming.
No one here knows either. It's gonna be a couple months, sorry. Nexus devices do get direct OTAs, except when you have a CDMA model and the carrier has to approve the update first. Then it takes a couple months.
That seems kinda pointless to have a nexus device if it is carrier affiliated that's the point of quick otas.. is anyone building jb from source or compiling from GSM devices thanks
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Bfitz26 said:
That seems kinda pointless to have a nexus device if it is carrier affiliated that's the point of quick otas..
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Well you bought the Sprint one ...
is anyone building jb from source or compiling from GSM devices thanks
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Of course they are, because the GSM one already has source and OTAs. But you don't have a GSM device...
There are source ROMs for the Sprint one too, but they don't have updated radios, because the Sprint device isn't fully supported in AOSP at the moment.
I heard that it will be this Monday but who really knows.... the nexus s 4g took forever to get ICS : /
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I heard that it will be this Monday but who really knows.... the nexus s 4g took forever to get ICS : /
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I think hell will freeze over first, unfortunately .
Vzw us getting otas already... so I'm better off rooting a flash a jb rom
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The idea of a nexus is direct ota's like you stated, but you have one problem. Your nexus is branded with a carrier, so you are at the mercy of the carrier and not Google.
Jellin' like a felon
That sad but true I suppose [email protected]#$ you sprint ... I woukdbhope we would get it before the gs3
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Bfitz26 said:
That sad but true I suppose [email protected]#$ you sprint ... I woukdbhope we would get it before the gs3
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And this is why I'm going with T-Mobile next year. Sorry sprint but you guys have put me through enough already....
It should be rilling out this coming week the OTA JB for both spring and verizon
Where did you hear this ??
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Well I heard it would be already to on are phone this week but I doubt it cuz still no word we can hope though and in was told this by the GM of a sprint store shows how much he knew
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I just want some 4.2 on my phone but they never update. Stupid GSM gets it the day after its released but all of us CDMA users have to wait until forever. Post your rants and raves below.
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This isn't anything new. Why is this still being discussed?
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Right, this question has been answered hundreds of times.
More productive to build my own 4.2...and I did.
adrynalyne said:
More productive to build my own 4.2...and I did.
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Any issue with the radios like when we first got JB but had to use ICS radios?
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Any issue with the radios like when we first got JB but had to use ICS radios?
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No, not really.
GPS issues are annoying, but fixable.
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I just want some 4.2 on my phone but they never update. Stupid GSM gets it the day after its released but all of us CDMA users have to wait until forever. Post your rants and raves below.
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The "stupid" gsm phones are so stupid that Google thinks they need to update them because they are too stupid to handle 4.1. Forgot to mention that everyone who has a gsm phone is stupid.
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fk.gregor said:
I just want some 4.2 on my phone but they never update. Stupid GSM gets it the day after its released but all of us CDMA users have to wait until forever. Post your rants and raves below.
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Never update? I guess that 4.1 update Verizon did was a figment of my(and many users') imagination.
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You gave the it a day. Really, one day for them to port in their different radios, drivers ect and test it. One day? You do realize its not the same phone right?
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I don't understand why everyone always complains about Verizon. Muzzy's 4.2 is running pretty good right now on mine and I am grandfathered and get employee discount my plan after taxes I pay $70 for unlimited I am pretty happy with them, guess I am an exception
I'm in sprint so at least you have LTE and decent 3g. Sounds like you need a nexus 4 on T-Mobile
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I just want some 4.2 on my phone but they never update. Stupid GSM gets it the day after its released but all of us CDMA users have to wait until forever. Post your rants and raves below.
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Who's more stupid? The one that paid way more than 200$ for a carrier branded "LTE" crapware bloated CDMA, nexus, with the most inconvenienced extra fees and plans, or the one that purchased a GSM HSPA+ unlucked direct from Google for 350$ if you're gonna call some consumers stupid, remember you got 3 fingers pointing at you, from your own hand leaving your index hanging, buddy
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NeoMagus said:
I don't understand why everyone always complains about Verizon. Muzzy's 4.2 is running pretty good right now on mine and I am grandfathered and get employee discount my plan after taxes I pay $70 for unlimited I am pretty happy with them, guess I am an exception
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I for the most part just dislike the company policies. The service is fine, just a little pricey. Customer service has always left me wanting better, and I personally find the handling of the Galaxy Nexus to be quite the fiasco.
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Who's more stupid? The one that paid way more than 200$ for a carrier branded "LTE" crapware bloated CDMA, nexus, with the most inconvenienced extra fees and plans, or the one that purchased a GSM HSPA+ unlucked direct from Google for 350$ if you're gonna call some consumers stupid, remember you got 3 fingers pointing at you, from your own hand leaving your index hanging, buddy
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I don't think that "stupid" was directed at GSM or it's users, more just a "stupid" of frustration.
I thought it was ATT that sucked...
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Verizon works almost everywhere, they don't suck at all. Either jump ship n complain about crappy coverage, or install 4.2 yourself
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Verizon sucks because Verizon doesn't care. Wasn't my words, but of a Verizon employee. I thought it was common knowledge but alas, this thread exists.
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Who's more stupid? The one that paid way more than 200$ for a carrier branded "LTE" crapware bloated CDMA, nexus, with the most inconvenienced extra fees and plans, or the one that purchased a GSM HSPA+ unlucked direct from Google for 350$ if you're gonna call some consumers stupid, remember you got 3 fingers pointing at you, from your own hand leaving your index hanging, buddy
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Calling a phone stupid, to someone calling a person stupid...
using "stupid""as in being frustrated because i want the latest on my phone. i'm not calling anyone stupid.
by the way i point with my whole hand not just one finger.
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using "stupid""as in being frustrated because i want the latest on my phone. i'm not calling anyone stupid.
by the way i point with my whole hand not just one finger.
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Just to say...
Verizon and sprint updated their galaxy nexus to 4.1 via OTA months after jellybean came out.
But the key here is that they still kept their promise and we had jelly bean before any other phone on their roster.
Even the hottest phone of the year Galaxy s3 didn't get jellybean till this week.(Verizon still waiting)
Verizon held up their end. You were the first to get jelly bean and unless the nexus 4 comes to Verizon, you will be the first on Verizon to have 4.2
The new Droid DNA comes with 4.1.2 so you're fine.
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I'm sorry, I can't hear you over my LTE and no dropped calls. What's that? You have HSPA+? Im sorry your breaking up...must be all that high latency.
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My Verizon upgrade is due in February and though I love my galaxy nexus the reception is terrible constantly in 3g. I had an s3 for about 6 months always had 4g but just missed my nexus to much and switched back despite the constant data drops..
Which phones on Verizon have the best/descent/worst antenna?
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Terry_blair said:
My Verizon upgrade is due in February and though I love my galaxy nexus the reception is terrible constantly in 3g. I had an s3 for about 6 months always had 4g but just missed my nexus to much and switched back despite the constant data drops..
Which phones on Verizon have the best/descent/worst antenna?
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do you have the latest radios for toro? i get 4g even in my woods when im riding.
Yes, this is my third nexus as well. So either the receptions sucks or I have really bad luck.
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do you have the latest radios for toro? i get 4g even in my woods when im riding.
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I don't know about the newer phones, but my brother always used to get moto phones while I got Samsung and HTC and his phone always got better signal than mine
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I don't know about the newer phones, but my brother always used to get moto phones while I got Samsung and HTC and his phone always got better signal than mine
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go to settings>about phone>baseband version= it should say for the vzw variant "I515.10 V.FK01 / I515.FK02" <-if you dont have that version,go to this ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1890585 ) and get the latest radios,since your still getting drops and bad speeds you might need to upgrade your radios.
i have the latest radios, though my question is redundant... i have had a nexus for 2 years always keeping up with the latest radios.
Same problem here. It's bad enough that in switching to T-Mobile as son as I can. I'm done with Verizon's sub par network and crap phone selection. I love my gnex but paying for 4g and rarely getting 4g to work is just not worth staying with them. I had the same problem on my Moto Bionic. I think their network is just receiving way to much traffic for it to handle and they don't have enough towers or networking to deal with it. Sorry, just my rant I had to get out.