Alright, pointless gathering of information time! How many of you strictly flash a different kernel after a ROM flash? For example, I'm using liq*id 1.5 which comes with Franco kernel bundled with it. Now, I'm sure a large percentage here may agree, the guys have built a nice stable ROM and know what they are doing, likewise Franco is a dependable dev with a solid kernel.
On paper it sounds like a match made in heaven as they both have plenty of experience and i'm sure the liq*id devs chose it for a reason. However, I always go back to Trinity after about 20 mins. Am I a sucker for placebo effects? Does anyone else religiously go back to a preferred kernel despite the knowledge that most bundled kernels SHOULD/POSSIBLY give the best user experience?
TL;DR do you use a kernel most the time because you BELIEVE it will give you the best experience, or do you give bundled kernels a good run first?
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i dont know.. in my experience custom kernels have usually been better than bundled kernels, with cm being an exemption since the cm kernel is very important to cyanogen. on most the other roms, most of the developers really focus most their attention to the rom. anyways, i will usually run/try all the kernels(need to know what is out there and how it compares to trinity), but always go back to trinity since that where my heart lays, and home is where the heart is
Through some sort of sorcery and probably placebo, I've always noticed best results when I use a kernel that has its own ramdisk.
I'm not much for bundled kernels. I know what kernels work for me and how they work by trying them all out.
Currently, GLaDOS kernel is the one that acts best for me.
Franco Kernel... it's what I'm used to and I haven't had any problems with it so why change? plus.. I bought his app, so I'm dedicated to it.
And no I don't use bundled kernels. Just because the kernel comes with the ROM doesn't mean its optimal for that particular ROM. But it may come with ROM settings that are for that kernel (such as AOKP and "GNParts")
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zephiK said:
Franco Kernel... it's what I'm used to and I haven't had any problems with it so why change? plus.. I bought his app, so I'm dedicated to it.
And no I don't use bundled kernels. Just because the kernel comes with the ROM doesn't mean its optimal for that particular ROM. But it may come with ROM settings that are for that kernel (such as AOKP and "GNParts")
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If you want to use AOKP 4.2.1 which is MR1 build 1 I suggest just upgrading the kernel they chose to go with...It wtill has some battery issues but if helped at least 30%
I use CM 10.1 with the CM 10.1 kernel. Best combo for me and my usage pattern
I don't use bundled kernels either!Last 3 months using AK Purity Kernel and it's really solid and does the job perfect!
I've been running CM 10.1 with the Air Kernel. Its been working great for me so far.
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Any suggestions as to the best Kernel for CM Nighlies?
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Any suggestions as to the best Kernel for CM Nighlies?
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I've tried them all and the only difference is that with Koush's kernels the built in wifi tether works. Besides that I have not noticed anything different.
I think the built in is just fine these days.
Keeping in mind that i dont overclock, I think the built in kernel is the fastest (34's according to linpack) and most stable whilst KK's BFS #2 is the least stable.
When it comes to battery charge/drain... I have no clue.
I really wish we had more kernel devs. KK is busy with his sammy and no one else is making kernels for us that use the new tech i see in the other forums.
Hey,
So sorry for what probably seems like a dumb question. I'm usually a Vibrant guy, but I'm helping a buddy out with a G2/looking at the feasibility of getting one myself. I know at least for the Vibrant our normal kernels don't play nice with our version of CyanogenMod 7. I was curious if the same held true here? Or can I flash any kernel? Also, I see that there are different types based on the type of ROM, which is a new thing to a Vibrant owner. So can anyone recommend me a kernel? I'm pretty decent on flashing and all that, and recovering a brick (at least with my Vibrant). Basically I want the best bottom-line performance. I don't need extra bells and whistles, just a nice high clock frequency. Thanks!
-MN_Vibrant
MN_Vibrant said:
Hey,
So sorry for what probably seems like a dumb question. I'm usually a Vibrant guy, but I'm helping a buddy out with a G2/looking at the feasibility of getting one myself. I know at least for the Vibrant our normal kernels don't play nice with our version of CyanogenMod 7. I was curious if the same held true here? Or can I flash any kernel? Also, I see that there are different types based on the type of ROM, which is a new thing to a Vibrant owner. So can anyone recommend me a kernel? I'm pretty decent on flashing and all that, and recovering a brick (at least with my Vibrant). Basically I want the best bottom-line performance. I don't need extra bells and whistles, just a nice high clock frequency. Thanks!
-MN_Vibrant
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If you're looking for a kernel for CM7, the kernel included is quite snappy though I personally run pershoot's kernel as he undervolts and has some other tweaks which improves responsiveness *and* battery life, at least for me.
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CM7 already comes with its own custom kernel (which also supports some overclocking), so no need to flash a separate kernel if you don't want to. But as already mentioned, pershoot's works well too.
You can't flash any kernel. Some are Sense specific, and some are for non-Sense ROMs. Flashing the wrong one for your ROM can apparently brick the phone, so read thru the threads for the ROM and kernel you are interested in, to be sure. The ROM developer will usually have kernel recommendations, or you can see what kernels users of that ROM have tried.
Like stated above you will need to read the instructions and notes on the kernel thread. CM7 has special requirements. Other Roms don't need. but be very careful on what you flash!
This isn't really a question, but a discussion of what ROM you are using and why, that''s why I don't think this should be in the Q&A section.
I've tried a few ROMs, from LiquidSmooth to AOKP and I've tried a few kernels as well, from Glados to Franco and I've made up my mind.
I think AOKP is the best ROM right, and Milestone 5 being the best build of AOKP. It has a good battery life, awesome performance, and a massive amount of settings. I though about mentioning CM9 first, since it also has good battery speed and awesome performance, but it doesn't have all those features I need.
The best kernel to go with AOKP is undoubtedly Franco's kernel and his best build is the Milestone 3. I have tried Imoseyon's kernel, Trinity kernel and Galdos kernel and Franco's is still the best one. Also having Franco's kernel updater app makes everything even better!
Of course, this is all personal, which means this is what I think and you may have a mix that work better for you. I just though I'd share my input. Now, please share your input.
BAMF Paradigm or my own AOSP build. I don't mess with kernels much past what comes with rom (Not to say others shouldn't). I have been using imnut's pbj kernel the last few days, however.
Reasoning: Not so many tweaks that they end up conflicting with each other, time was taken to use proper signing keys, and the modifications are thoroughly tested before release.
I don't tell people what to use, as I let them make up their own mind. Just know I don't use anything I deem poor quality.
Got my nexus one week ago. flashed the most popular Roms here (but cm9) and was kinda disappointed. Coming from a galaxy s2 with roms full of bugs I expected the nexus roms to be stable because of the open nexus. But most of the roms been unstable and buggy for me too.
Now I found a good combination of Rom and kernel:
Bamf and glados kernel.
So far the most stable and battery saving combination for me. Using it since 24 hours and no FC or freezes so far. Think I'll stick with it.
Mods are cool too I just don't like the quick settings look in the notification bar and the not modable power menu. But I can live with that.
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Stock 4.0.4 IMM76I pure&simple:thumbup:
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pmcee said:
Got my nexus one week ago. flashed the most popular Roms here (but cm9) and was kinda disappointed. Coming from a galaxy s2 with roms full of bugs I expected the nexus roms to be stable because of the open nexus. But most of the roms been unstable and buggy for me too.
Now I found a good combination of Rom and kernel:
Bamf and glados kernel.
So far the most stable and battery saving combination for me. Using it since 24 hours and no FC or freezes so far. Think I'll stick with it.
Mods are cool too I just don't like the quick settings look in the notification bar and the not modable power menu. But I can live with that.
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The quick settings take a bit to grow on ya. I didn't care for them at first but find them essential now. This coming from someone who is part of the team
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The quick settings take a bit to grow on ya. I didn't care for them at first but find them essential now. This coming from someone who is part of the team
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It's gonna be real hard for me to adapt with another ROM other than AOKP, if I ever switch to some other ROM ^^
AOKP Milestone 5, but I'm switching to the Paranoid Android. Love the 'hybrid' tablet/phone mix
I'm currently running Liquidsmooth with Imoseyon's kernel. I was planning to try a lot more Roms and kernel combos than I currently have but been a bit too busy lately to test each one thoroughly. I'm happy with Liquidsmooth, it has very few issues and I'm getting 2 days battery life (minimum) with moderate usage.
Next time I get a decent chance I will try out a few more
Aokp franco.
Most of all other roms take features from aokp. Like liquid smooth who renamed rom control to liquid control
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Ditto, aokp m5, Franco m3....until somebody makes something better!
Sourcery and stock kernel I love the on the go customization without having to reboot and this from brings back great memories of my d1 since I ran it on their forever
for me, by me and I love you
Bugless Beast. Its just like the name says. Never had a single problem with it in 5 months.
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Miui v4 just because they rock!
Franco kernel and aokp here. Haven't upgraded to milestone 5 yet. What governors are you guys running?
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I'm using liquid smooth with the provided kernel. USB tethering isn't working but the lightweight and zippy feel of the from beats everything out there. I also have a nandriod of Paranoid Android, miui.us, Imm30b, and aokp just in case they improve enough to be worthy of a couple weeks on my phone. The aokp launcher IMHO hesitates too much.
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I tried almost everything we have for now and stick to Modaco ROM because it's the smoothest of all, other roms are greatly customisable like CM9 or AOKP but they all lag here and there and i can't stand it/ The battery life is almost similar in all roms and it depends more on kernel you've chosen. I'm fine with franco milestone3. However I don't use nightlies because every of them gave me a random reboot at least once.
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It's gonna be real hard for me to adapt with another ROM other than AOKP, if I ever switch to some other ROM ^^
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To each their own. I am not asking you to.
I have been rocking Bamf for the last few weeks. Really good with maybe 1 fc. Stock kernel wasn't giving me great battery so testing out Bond kernel right now. Getting slightly better battery results.
Have also tried Liquidsmooth, Modaco, and cm9. All pretty good but not as stable I find.
Have never tried Aokp. Crazy I know.
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To each their own. I am not asking you to.
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I know, but being the ROM freak I am, I'll probably end up flashing som other cool looking build
Right now, though, I'm satisfied with AOKP.
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I use the Modaco rom with Franco kernel m3. Modaco is running since 3 months and I can't complain about anything.
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Hey guys. I'd like to know what kernel you think suits you best. I'm looking for both subjective answers and objective answers. Which of the following suits you best?
Franco kernel
Trinity kernel
Faux kernel
Glados kernel
Stock CM kernel
Other
Please post a comment explaining why you have chosen the way you did. Feel free to discuss any kernel and also share your phenomenal tips and tricks.
glados for:
best compromise (for me)for performance\battery
fully featured like many others kernels but.....most of these features came from glados's dev,and then others dev implement it,love liveOC and is the unique with that feature,the dev is very gentle and available,the kernel can be adjusted via the control app,and IMHO is more good that trinity\franco's app for features,dispositions,colors,style etc.
i tried and used all the kernels and buyed all the dev's control app.my choice is glados,after 2\3 months of usage i don't want to came back.the best for my usage\tastes\preferences.
only 2 things that i miss:
a minimal slot of 190\220 mhz
preset pre-configured like franco's app (powersave,music,high power,etc etc..)
The kernel packaged with CM9 is faux, unless the CM team uses faux as a base and changes something in it..
Franco for me, despite some issues he is devoted to making his kernel perfect and his app is really good too for updating. Makes life a lot easier. With Franco's kernel I can say I have hardly ever had an app FC. I've tried other kernels but I just find with Franco's there is just more consistency and when I look at his thread I know what is going on almost instantly. This is my experience. I also like Fugu kernel and Trinity and GLAdos so on occasion I will try them out.
No Lean Kernel? Probably one of the most popular Kernel's out there
IAP Samurai kernel just rolled on the scene and couple of weeks ago. It's in the Sprint Gnex development section. I recommend giving it a try, Earthbound did some real good kernels in the OG Epic. Community and now he's brought his talents to the Gnex. It is based on Faux, but with IAP twists.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25732343
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Currently switch between cm9 plus and leankernel. Both have a great balance of performance and battery life
I use the CMplus Kernel from here, he works with no problems under CM9 by me.
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Franco for me, despite some issues he is devoted to making his kernel perfect and his app is really good too for updating.
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I completely agree. Franco/Lean kernel is the way to go. If I had more time throughout the day I'd like to try out the others again, but I don't feel like there's a need. Franco's kernel and app are great!
Hi guys, I've recently been playing around with my phone and I have been wondering
What your favorite kernels are. Right now I've been using the kt747 and I really like it. However I haven't really
Seen any other popular kernels for my att Samsung gs3. Btw I'm running cm10 witch is truly amazing.
KT747 is my kernel of choice. Battery life is spectacular, especially for on screen time. Tasks Underwear kernel is packaged with his AOKP ROM and it is stellar as well. Lean kernel is supposed to be a minimalistic kernel and therefore apt for battery life.
Your best bet is to flash a few, give them a few days to settle and see what works best for your needs.