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W0w. My Bizlink MHL adaptor & Rii mini keyboard has just arrived!

Hi all,
I have just received my BizLink MHL addaptor and my Rii mini Bluethooth keyboard with touchpad from Mobile Fun. I have just connected them all up tried a brief bit of sofa surfing and then I thought I would test out the bluetooth keyboard and MHL by posting this message to you all.
I have just checked on the Mobile Fun website and the MHL adaptor has now just sold out [it was shown as in stock yesterday] but I am guessing that a lot of you will now have your MHL addaptor. As for the the keyboard there are some issues with it, but as these are the first words that I am typing on it, it will take me some time to get use to it. The keyboard has the four cursor keys [up down left right] which are really useful and the touchpad right mouse button acts as the back button.
However before you rush out and buy this key board I am having serious issues with the key board that I will investicate more after I have clicked send on this post. I will provide more details later.
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OK I have now had some time to test the Rii mini keyboard with the MHL adaptor connected up to the TV. Generally it has the potential of being a very positive experience (apart from some bluetooth communication issues with the keyboard -- more about that later). The four cursor keys work very well as they are fully supported by Android and are especially good for editing text and I can easily navigate round the phone and the browser using them. The keyboard it self is too small for serious typing (if you want to do that then I would recommend getting a full size keyboard). The F1 key acts as the menu button and the esc key and the right mouse button both act as the back button. I can't find find any way to access the home button using the keyboard.
The touchpad works perfectly on when using it connected upto a PC but does not work quite so well when connected to the S2. This shows that this must be android issues with the mini keyboard touch pad rather than the Rii device it self. There is no pinch zoom with the touch pad and dragging the screen to scroll using the touch pad and pressing and holding the left mouse button is possible but very awkward.
The phone works best in landscape mode when connected to the tv but does not always go into landscape mode so you have to go and lift the phone up give it a little shake to make it go into landscape. The software keyboard occasionally comes up on the screen when you don't want it to so you have to press the right mouse button to make it go away. I have found a little trick on the stock browser -- pressing shift and one of the cursor key makes it easer to scroll the browser.
The youtube app works the best when connected to the TV as it automatically plays out the video in landscape at full resolution for an HD def video.
I haven't got to the bottom of the reason that is causing reliability issue with s2 MHL and the mini key board, but it looking like it may be interference on the bluetooth connection. The issue shows it self as the auto repeat characters keep appearing when you don't want them to causing the alternate character choice popup from the virtual key board to keep appearing.

I think bluetooth is generally broken on S2
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I just got the Rii Keyboard and it works just fine on my Galaxy Note. The only problem is that i can't find out how to zoom for example in the browser. does anybody have an idea how to do that??? the keyboard is perfekt when you whant to sit on the sofa an connect your phone to the TV an play some games or surf in the internet.

how does it pair with G Note.
I have a Galaxy Note too and thinking about getting one of these keyboards.
What i want to know is, can the Note pair up direct to to the keyboard or do you need to use an otg cable and supplied bt dongle.
Thanks
John.

S3 Stock Rom + Logitech F310 (Wired Controller) Works nice!

Hey, well since I didnt see a topic about wired controllers yet, I thought I would share my findings yesterday.
I just got in my USB OTG Adapter so when I got home, I tried my Logitech F310 controller on my Stock T-Mobile rom. Works great! (X-Input mode) I was actually navigating the entire screen with my controller, using Circle button to exit out etc. Was very plug and play! Best part, Emulators worked 100% for the key bindings to it! So wanted to pass this info on to anyone else who was wondering about "Wired" option. Since I know we can do Wii controllers, PS3 ones and so. Cept.. I dont WANT to resync or change batteries out all the time.
Now I had seen this on the market too. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.poke64738.usbjoy&hl=en
Its about 5$ but not sure why I would use this if built in all works fine?
I did notice tho the USB port gets a lil warm after awhile of using it. (Since its powering yoru USB device it seems)
Now I did try the gamepad in minecraft. Some buttons work for opening menu, or "digging" however cant seem to make the movement work. So I may try to hit up Notch to allow keybinding options.
In my emulators tho, You set the D-Pad up for that, however a bonus.. analog stick works too for movement without setting anything up! Was playing Arcus Odyssey on Sega last night with the anlog stick heh.
Now I wonder.. if I use a mini usb "Y" adapter so I can have it plugged into the power source and my controller at the same time. That should work right? (This way I can keep it in my Dock, charging it while playing with the controller)

Sixaxis is better and cheaper.

psykhotic said:
Sixaxis is better and cheaper.
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But youd have to resync to PS3 or Tablet each time. Which is what I find annoying. Then till I get the 50$ Universal BT Onlive Controller (Which seems sweet and can dedicate it to android use) The wired option is nice. =)

[Q] MHL cable, BT mouse & keayboard

Hi guys (and girls),
I have HTC One X with stock ROM on it. I got myself a MHL cable (not original, from dealextreme) and i had an idea to make some kind of notebook from my one X. I already have BT mouse and keyboard (both logitech) and monitor with HDMI input port.
When i pair mouse and keyboard with my phone everything works well, i can write messages, scroll and all other stuff, but problem happens when i connect that MHL cable from my phone to monitor. I get clear and good picture on my monitor and everything is good when controlling phone by touch, but when i try to control it by mouse and keyboard everything really slows down. Mouse cursor has great amount of lag, and typing with keyboard is nearly impossible.
I saw other people using this kind of combination on youtube and other places and as i can see everything goes without problem, did anyone had experience like i have or has a reason why is this happening??
Thanks

wow, that could be normal, 1080p output and 2 bluetooth devices shouldn't be easy to handle together

[Q] USB / Bluetooth Keyboard ends up as Player 1

Hey All,
I've contacted OUYA support (and have a dialog going with them) about this, but thought I'd throw a line out here as well.
I've got a bluetooth Microsoft Entertainment Keyboard 7000 as well as a USB Logitech K400 keyboard.
Both work pretty well with the OUYA (though I don't use both simultaneously for obvious reasons).
One thing I've noticed, however, is that no matter what order I pair the OUYA controllers and keyboard (or connect the USB keyboard) in, the keyboard ends up being player 1 after a period of time.
Example:
Pair OUYA controller 1
Pair OUYA controller 2
Connect USB keyboard
After a day or so, and possibly a full power cycle of the device, the keyboard ends up being Player 1.
This doesn't pose an issue for the most part (the OUYA controllers display that they are players 2 and 3), but some games specifically rely on the device that is identified as Player 1 to actually be an OUYA controller in the game, and therefore I have to go through a whole rigamarole of unpairing all controllers / keyboards, disconnecting the USB keyboard, and doing a full shutdown of the device, then powering it back on and waiting for the pairing wizard to pop up so I can re-pair my controllers.
The real question here is, has anyone else experienced this, and if so have you found a viable workaround?
I'd prefer that the keyboard (whether USB or bluetooth) doesn't get detected as a controller period, but simply acts as an auxiliary means of input for fields where I need to type something in, move a mouse, etc.
Thanks!
pitcherj

Yes, I have exactly the same issue with a Logitech K400 as well. Very annoying, I haven't found a workaround yet.
I have an Ouya controller, a PS3 controller and the K400 in that order and after a while the K400 takes over controller position 1.
There needs to be some way of locking controller 1, or at least a way to quickly change controller positions from within the interface without needing to repair everything.

I had the exact same problem, after looking around for several days trying to find a way to get my controllers paired to slot 1&2. Installed the Blue Board app from the OUYA market.
I've been installed it on my phone, got to to to pair, and used it a couple of times. After that I noticed that my controllers properly paired to slot 1 & 2, and if I hook up my keyboard it properly goes into a different slot.
Blasted from my Samsung Galaxy SIII (CM10.1 Masta Mix).

Over here it is the same problem.
I use a Rapoo E2700 Keyboard with touchpad. It is connected via a seperate USB wireless-dongle.
[A little o.t. but i want to tell everybody thant the keyboard is working great! The Touchpad is super smooth and (unlike the Ouya Controller Touchpad) realy good to navigate a mouse cursor]
It would be nice if there was a menue where you could assign wich Device takes wich controller-slot. Working without a keypboard is a little annoying to me.

Same for all my keyboards, i think it might be intentional.

Everytime I plug in my keyboard dongle it causes the system to lock up and i have to restart, but if I boot with the keyboard hooked up its player 1. They need to get this fixed
Edit: It seems that removing my hub and pluging straight into the ouya works... but now I've no way to use xbox controllers...

After reading through this thread, I'm beginning to wonder if it has something to do with using keyboards meant for PC. The reason I say this is I have had my Motorola Bluetooth Keyboard made for the Xoom paired since the day i got it and it never took over any controller port, but 1 full power cycle with my Logitech USB keyboard and it took over 1st controller.
Does anyone else have a android BT keyboard they can try?

Xbox wireless dongle as well as a el'cheapo GE USB keyboard do the exact same thing... very very annoying
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JLCollier2005 said:
After reading through this thread, I'm beginning to wonder if it has something to do with using keyboards meant for PC. The reason I say this is I have had my Motorola Bluetooth Keyboard made for the Xoom paired since the day i got it and it never took over any controller port, but 1 full power cycle with my Logitech USB keyboard and it took over 1st controller.
Does anyone else have a android BT keyboard they can try?
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I think this is tied to USB taking priority over Bluetooth. Every USB HID I plug in ends up becoming player one.
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Sinderan said:
Everytime I plug in my keyboard dongle it causes the system to lock up and i have to restart, but if I boot with the keyboard hooked up its player 1. They need to get this fixed
Edit: It seems that removing my hub and pluging straight into the ouya works... but now I've no way to use xbox controllers...
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Are you using a powered USB hub? My non powered USB hub does the same thing.
If a powered hub doesn't do it, it might have something to do with the power draw on that single port.
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ja450n said:
I think this is tied to USB taking priority over Bluetooth. Every USB HID I plug in ends up becoming player one.
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I think its more just because The USB connects on boot, while the bluetooth controllers and keyboards have to be turned on. Since the USB where already there they get the first spot and the rest get whats there when they connect.
ja450n said:
Are you using a powered USB hub? My non powered USB hub does the same thing.
If a powered hub doesn't do it, it might have something to do with the power draw on that single port.
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Yea I think I need a powered hub. I left one at my moms house I'll probably go pick up today when I remember. (Wow I never thought that hub that came with Rock Band 1 on Xbox would ever be useful again lol)

https://support.ouya.tv/entries/247...A-controller-not-shown-as-Controller-1-or-if-
This is their solution.
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What is the best Mouse/ keyboard to use with AFTV?

What is the best way to get mouse control on a AFTV? A few apps need a mouse. My AFTV is wired, so the apps on my mobile don't seem to work. Thanks.

Logitech Wireless Touch Keyboard K400 avail on Amazon.

I considered the Logitech, but am now Thinking something smaller (mini keyboard)​

I have a Logitech K700 for the GoogleTV. It works wonderfully, even in CWM.

I just bought a MeLe F10 Deluxe combo remote/keyboard/air-mouse and it's pretty fantastic. I had to do a bit of .kl editing to remap the home button to work, so root came in handy, but other than that the thing is great. I was able to program in all of the important buttons from my TV's IR remote so I was able to ditch that remote entirely. It even surprisingly works in CWM and Rbox's boot loader. Well worth $30.

I got an IPazzPort KP-810-16 5-in-1 (air mouse, back-lighted mini keyboard, learning IR remote). It works so well that I am considering buying their Bluetooth version (for my other FTV) so I don't have to plug a RF dongle in the USB of the FTV

How is the Mouse Controls with the MeLe F10 Deluxe Combo, is it done by moving the remote around in the air?
The IPazzPort KP-810 looks good and small. Is the keyboard not to small to use and hows the mouse control?

Thilly1 said:
How is the Mouse Controls with the MeLe F10 Deluxe Combo, is it done by moving the remote around in the air?
The IPazzPort KP-810 looks good and small. Is the keyboard not to small to use and hows the mouse control?
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Yes, it's motion controlled like a wiimote. Right above the directional pad is the button for left mouse click. You click that button when you want to turn mouse mode on (which also turns the back button into right click), and then when you want to turn it off you can just press any of the directions on the D-pad. It works great if you only need a mouse here or there for navigating certain apps, but I wouldn't exactly try to play games with it. That said, my LG TV came with an airmouse remote when I bought it, and the airmouse on this is so much smoother and useable than that remote that it's not even funny. It works surprisingly well.

What about the Lenovo N5902, as anyone tried it with the Fire TV?

I have a mini bluetooth keyboard with touch screen and mouse button that I got from Amazon. It works well. It is a QQ-Tech model lS11-BT05. I first side loaded the settings app and used it to find the keyboard.

I've tried several wireless keyboard/pads (not all with the Fire TV). Though not perfect, the K400 is the best of the lot.

Thilly1 said:
The IPazzPort KP-810 looks good and small. Is the keyboard not to small to use and hows the mouse control?
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Keyboard is not too small, I think the size is good. I tried other wireless keyboard, either key presses are not registered or key presses got repeated. Those issues don't happen with the IPazzPort and that's why I said it is good. Air mouse control is good too, easy to use

Logitech k400 works great. Best choice imo.

wellersl said:
I've tried several wireless keyboard/pads (not all with the Fire TV). Though not perfect, the K400 is the best of the lot.
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Logitech k400 works great. Best choice imo.
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Agreed, I have tried many also, k400 is the best, however, I also own
an old logitech revue, the keyboard for it is a k700 keyboard. It is the mac daddy of them all. it has directional and enter keys below the touchpad.
Here is a link to a picture of it. note the directional arrows below the touchpad. much nicer I am only posting this link so you can see a picture of what it is I'm refering to. not for sale or purchase reasons.
http://www.blinq.com/detail/electro...nkTYhtPQrEmVDb04zUKNKID-A-ARB5O5ugaApdX8P8HAQ
I retired my logitech revue after getting my aftv. Since the keyboard does not come with a usb dongle I just used a regular logitech usb nano receiver and used the software from logitech to link the two in windows. I then connected the nano reciever to the aftv where it is "The Best" keyboard in my opinion. If you don't have a dongle then just buy a logitech mouse at the store or order the nano receiver for $12 off amazon.
before you nay say me you better own own one. lol

I own several Logitech Revues. The keyboard is great. I thought it was IR, not Rf but I could be wrong. Good to know I will be able to reuse it. Do they sell them standalone and with bluetooth?
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tekweezle said:
I own several Logitech Revues. The keyboard is great. I thought it was IR, not Rf but I could be wrong. Good to know I will be able to reuse it. Do they sell them standalone and with bluetooth?
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no bluetooth that i"m aware just wireless with usb nano receiver compatible. A logitech nano receiver can allow up to 8 logitech unity compatible devices. you just have to have your own and program it with the logitech unity software.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Unif...r=8-1&keywords=logitech+unifying+usb+receiver
http://support.logitech.com/en_us/software/unifying
I wish I had more of these keyboards.

Sumvision Paradox Touch
Using one of these . nice keyboard with touch panel. The media keys also work (most) which is nice as the play button is enter. I don't usually like touchpads but in thus situation it's fine. I also have a generic. Acer branded off of my revo tested and working.
The Sum vision is Samsung compatible for your info. P
UPDATE just checked media buttons . all work in xbmc including volume. Stop play etc in youtube and the Home button most everywhere. I also would let you know it trips into standby quite quickly to save battery a quick press on connect wakes it up
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sumvision-Paradox-Wireless-SlimKeyboard-Built-In/dp/B005KCGRW8

Can one load a web browser on the FireTV if its rooted etc?
I'd be curious in getting a wireless keyboard/mouse combo.. But I'd also like to be able to use it as a web browser type of device?

Yes, I have chrome sideloaded on my AFS which is not rooted. Works well with a mini keyboard mouse TouchPad combo.
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tekweezle said:
Yes, I have chrome sideloaded on my AFS which is not rooted. Works well with a mini keyboard mouse TouchPad combo.
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And it works just like it would on a mini pc? Any downsides?
So what keyboard/mouse combo you have?