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Mobile World Congress in Barcelona today! Post Any & ALL News here! Just the FACT'S!
Mobile World Congress in Barcelona today!
Mobile Carrier's & Device Manufacture's to Announce New Device's Today!
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So far I have not seen any news regarding WP7, it's only the first day though.
Here is conference agenda
http://www.mobileworldcongress.com/conference/conf_agenda.htm
The keynote is at 4 pm Spain time... I am waiting for it.... In 10 min or so...it 11 pm in Singapore then....
Multitasking confirmed for 2011
official
update is march bound
multitasking bound
IE9 is coming with h/w acceleration
skydrive integration soon
twitter integration in people coming
and Joe Belifore is there...w00t
domineus said:
official
update is march bound
multitasking bound
IE9 is coming
skydrive integration soon
twitter integration in people coming
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So it seems like anyone with half a brain was correct - Microsoft is playing Apple's cynical game of withholding vital, easily-implemented features so that they can add them later to much media fanfare
They are reaching out to the casual base by gaining media support (these guys just loooove routine feature updates), presenting the illusion of "moving forward" ("hey look, we can do THAT now!") and not overwhelming the nontechnical user by not having all features available from the get-go.
In the process they are pissing on the so-called 'core base' (which aren't their core base at all obviously - clearly there is much more money to be made from the easily-impressionable, technologically-retarded crowd)
And that's all fine and dandy, but I just don't understand why people from THIS site would support this business model.
Pickx said:
So it seems like anyone with half a brain was correct - Microsoft is playing Apple's cynical game of withholding vital, easily-implemented features so that they can add them later to much media fanfare
They are reaching out to the casual base by gaining media support (these guys just loooove routine feature updates), presenting the illusion of "moving forward" ("hey look, we can do THAT now!") and not overwhelming the nontechnical user by not having all features available from the get-go.
In the process they are pissing on the so-called 'core base' (which aren't their core base at all obviously - clearly there is much more money to be made from the easily-impressionable, technologically-retarded crowd)
And that's all fine and dandy, but I just don't understand why people from THIS site would support this business model.
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The OP says no rumors or opinions, which is why I created that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954051
Pickx said:
So it seems like anyone with half a brain was correct - Microsoft is playing Apple's cynical game of withholding vital, easily-implemented features so that they can add them later to much media fanfare
They are reaching out to the casual base by gaining media support (these guys just loooove routine feature updates), presenting the illusion of "moving forward" ("hey look, we can do THAT now!") and not overwhelming the nontechnical user by not having all features available from the get-go.
In the process they are pissing on the so-called 'core base' (which aren't their core base at all obviously - clearly there is much more money to be made from the easily-impressionable, technologically-retarded crowd)
And that's all fine and dandy, but I just don't understand why people from THIS site would support this business model.
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y know it took 3 iterations of iphone to get half the number of updates that wp7 is churning out this year...
I don't think there is a cynical motive here. Microsoft has always said they would be adding these core features after first gen. They've been saying that since last year prior to initial release...
As far as what the OP stated, this is just for news not opinions and going with that
task switcher (for multitasking) is accessed by pressing and holding the back button to bring up the task manager
IE9 is h/w accelerated unlike apple which is s/w accelerated as joe belifore mentions it
will keep going with dev stuff
Just reading the live feed http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/live-from-steve-ballmers-mwc-2011-keynote/?sort=newest&refresh=60
is there a video stream?
Tone_ said:
Just reading the live feed http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/live-from-steve-ballmers-mwc-2011-keynote/?sort=newest&refresh=60
is there a video stream?
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It appears that Steve's keynote will be available On Demand later on, on Microsoft.com. I'll just catch it later. Sounds like good stuff though.
Qualcomm unveils new Snapdragon chipsets, 2.5GHz quad-core chip.
Here is the Link.
www.bgr.com/2011/02/14/qualcomm-unveils-new-snapdragon-chipset-2-5ghz-quad-core-chip/
Cut and paste and multitasking all together that's the best news of 2011...
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Cut and paste and multitasking all together that's the best news of 2011...
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Cut in paste in March, multi-tasking later in the year
Hey all, In addition to the XDA WP7 dev contest currently running, Microsoft is sponsoring an additional competition that closes on June 6th called the WP7 app challenge.
10 finalist will be chosen and given two free passes to Microsoft's Partner Conference in Los Angeles in July (it normally cost ~2k each to attend) where they will compete on stage in front of a live audience for the title.
My microsoft sources are telling me that they will also get a sitdown at the show with the WP7 dev team and VP + that each entry will get a free set of cool WP7 dev tools from one of their vendors.
http://wp7challenge.com
No upgrade to WP8, even though WP8's core will support a much wider variety of devices from low to high end. Even though it supports the same screen resolution etc etc.
Wasted 200$ on a dev account and a dead-end phone with a programming API that's now obsolete. I think I'll stick to desktop programming from now on
Don't worry, Someone always comes along and develops a hack, At some stage there will be WP8 running on WP7 hardware, People used to think WP7 on the HD2 was a pipe dream and moaned because of no update from WM 6.5, Anything is possible on here thanks to the hardworking Devs
AndyFZ1S said:
Don't worry, Someone always comes along and develops a hack, At some stage there will be WP8 running on WP7 hardware, People used to think WP7 on the HD2 was a pipe dream and moaned because of no update from WM 6.5, Anything is possible on here thanks to the hardworking Devs
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Thats not the point.... Ive been purchasing windows phone 7 devices for my work over a year now, thinking MS wont screw us over for a third time.
Mind you should have know they did the same with wm2003 to wm5 to wm6 now wp7 to wp8.
Tomorrow im gonna be pulling WP7 devices from our internal pages.
I feel sorry for all those poor people that just got the Lumia 900, i can be seeing loads of returns in the next couple of days. No point in keeping a device for 6 months then have people stop developing apps as they will be moving to wp8. At least wp7.5 apps will run on wp8 geeee thanks a bunch.
THANK YOU FOR SCREWING US OVER AGAIN MS.
Hopefully this is true.
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/06/20/w...siasts-btw-this-is-a-wp8-lumia-already-right/
how on earth does that page twist this
Microsoft today said that it plans to make Windows Phone 8 available to users who want to install it on their Windows Phone devices, even if their carrier and/or device manufacturer won't officially support the update. Specifically, this will apply to Windows Phone 8 devices only. So if a given WP8 device is not being updated by the carrier/manufacturer in an timely manner, Microsoft will provide an unapproved version of WP8 to those who don't want to wait for official updates/builds. Microsoft said the offering is meant to help appease enthusiasts and developers. Microsoft has yet to decide exactly how it will distribute the platform to such enthusiasts, and has not yet set guidelines for how the program will work. Microsoft said more details about the program will become available in the coming months. This update program does not apply to Windows Phone 7/7.5
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For current Lumia owners, if you’re an enthusiast, you won’t have to wait for WP7.8 which brings in the new homescreen and some other WP8 features.
You can apparently get WP8 unofficially.
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Microsoft said nothing of that sort. What they are talking about is allowing wp8 users to get updates without their carrier (unlike 7series)
So many duplicate threads!
Sorry guys, please continue this discussion in one of the others.
Closed.
The following letter was written by one of Hong Kong WP lovers. After posting for minutes. There're already 2000 votes. If you want Microsoft to Bring new features of WP8 that can be supported by WP7.5 hardware to WP7.8, please support our works! Join us! Speak Loudly to Microsoft!!
and here's the jointly letter (link re-newed) Please delete space!! :
http : //windowsphone.uservoice.co m/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/suggestions/2945071-bring-new-features-of-wp8-that-can-be-supported-by
and Here's the letter(by Simon Luk @ WeLoveWP.HK Administrator) :
20th June, 2012 has been one of the darkest days in the history of Windows Phone.
On 20th June, 2012, Microsoft announced Windows Phone 8, the next generation Windows Phone platform. At the same time, Microsoft broke the bad news to existing Windows Phone users – WP8 will not be available for existing WP devices to upgrade. Instead, Microsoft showed their “commitment” to current WP users by delivering WP7.8, which is just basically WP7.5 with the whole new Start Screen of WP8.
Are current users satisfied? Furious WP users are shouting in the Internet. Microsoft, what do you think?
Microsoft, you might think that the existing WP user base is just so small, so you can dumb us anytime you think it’s appropriate. You might think making current WP users angry is no big deal because WP8 must make a huge success, attracting all the consumers to buy your devices. Please, Microsoft, stop and think. Who are the existing WP users? We, the current WP users, are your loyal customers and fans. What you are doing with WP7.8 - barely adding a new Start Screen – is just an insult to us.
Being WP fans, we know that WP8 needs a new kernel. We absolutely understand the fact that our existing devices cannot get WP8 due to huge work for kernel and drivers re-writing. On the new kernel for WP8, we, WP fans, are totally on your side. I am sure most of the existing users, who wish WP having a better future, can accept the fact that WP8 apps cannot be supported in WP7.8 due to kernel incompatibility issues. However, it does not mean that it justifies for WP7.8 just having the new Start Screen of WP8.
Although they are still not officially announced, many features of WP8, including IE10, Skydrive Integration, Xbox Music & Video, DataSmart, whole-new range of languages and IME supports, etc, have been revealed by different parties. Many existing WP users will love to have these new features on their WP7.8 devices. We believe that some of the above features do not require high grade hardware. Indeed, Microsoft, we can assure you that you will **** most if not all WP users off, if you deliberately leave these “upgradable” features off from our WP7.8 devices.
We are your loyal WP supporters. We were always happy to introduce our friends to buy WP7.5 devices. Provided that WP7.8 only brings the new Start Screen without other new features from WP8 which are supported by existing hardware, we just cannot help but tell our dear friends – Do not buy a WP. Word of mouth is of paramount importance in selling smartphones. Please do not embarrass us and yourself. Act quickly and give confidence to the existing WP users; and we will let the whole world know WP is always worth buying.
Microsoft, please bring new features of WP8 that are supported by existing WP7.5 hardware to WP7.8. Do not let your loyal WP fans down.
Simon Luk
Administrator
WeLoveWP.HK
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thx for your support!!
You drop the f bomb and think someone is going to take you seriously?
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JaiCameron said:
You drop the f bomb and think someone is going to take you seriously?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA
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It's not the OP, you do know that?
Also, it would read a word starting with a "p" here.
Though I'm not a WP user, I fully support this cause and hope that you'll be able to make this work out!
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I support
Totally support.
For the lazy ones:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...-new-features-of-wp8-that-can-be-supported-by
Also: Signed!
yep.. should support!!
ChrisKringel said:
For the lazy ones:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...-new-features-of-wp8-that-can-be-supported-by
Also: Signed!
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Took 3 votes from somewhere else and gave it to this. Great idea!
Oh cry me a river! Microsoft hasn't released any details regarding what WP8 features are going to be on 7.8 and you're all going ape-****. Calm down and at least wait for an official statement from Microsoft. Threatening to tell others not to buy Windows Phones, seriously? Based on what? Internet chatter? That letter by Simon Luk looks like a letter to Paul McCartney begging him not to quit the Beatles. I think this community is better than that so please, practice some restraint.
fatclue said:
Oh cry me a river! Microsoft hasn't released any details regarding what WP8 features are going to be on 7.8 and you're all going ape-****. Calm down and at least wait for an official statement from Microsoft. Threatening to tell others not to buy Windows Phones, seriously? Based on what? Internet chatter? That letter by Simon Luk looks like a letter to Paul McCartney begging him not to quit the Beatles. I think this community is better than that so please, practice some restraint.
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This.
Pretty sure the admin from WeLoveWP.HK is correct in that 7.8 only gets new tile sizes. On the other hand, it is unlikely that this petition will convince Microsoft to add additional features for current generation phones.
I do hope somebody will come up with an acceptable solution. Microsoft is not in a good enough position to anger its userbase as it is not that big to begin with.
I provided my 3 votes, even though I switched to Android from WP7 a few months ago. I kinda guessed the new kernel meant that the current Mango phones weren't going to get upgraded.
Honestly, a whole OS upgrade isn't necessary for the phones, as long as some kind of incentive program could be available to encourage devs to attempt to make apps that weren't hardware-limited to run on both WP8 and WP7. Stuff like Instagram, Flipboard, simple games, etc.
Edit: Oh, and one thing that would've made me stick with WP7 longer would have been a simple Webkit-compatible browser. Half the mobile websites I visited wouldn't display properly because the browser didn't support Webkit. Extremely annoying.
We don't even know if the start screen is all that's in 7.8... We don't know all the features in Apollo, so how would we know all of them in 7.8? There's still a lot of time until the release.
I support !
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already voted with 6 votes.
thanks in advance
Signed too ! Please post it on Facebook and tweeter !!! !!!
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...has any of you guys got any confirmed information about the final content of update WP7.8 and which devices are going to get it or not? No? Then don't you think that this kind of action is a bit premature and a bit stupid?
Bring new features of WP8 that can be supported by WP7.5 hardware to WP7.8!
20th June, 2012 has been one of the darkest days in the history of Windows Phone.
On 20th June, 2012, Microsoft announced Windows Phone 8, the next generation Windows Phone platform. At the same time, Microsoft broke the bad news to existing Windows Phone users – WP8 will not be available for existing WP devices to upgrade. Instead, Microsoft showed their “commitment” to current WP users by delivering WP7.8, which is just basically WP7.5 with the whole new Start Screen of WP8.
Are current users satisfied? Furious WP users are shouting in the Internet. Microsoft, what do you think?
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read more in the link above and vote
There is already thread about it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726190
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Mods, I'm all for a lively debate and I feel some threads are closed prematurely. But this ain't one.