Hello my nerds!
My question is simple, maybe a bit stupid but what'so'ever:
What's your opinion 'bout the device (HTC ONE X)? I'm going to upgrade my old htc desire with one after the Samsung S3 is released but an ugly piece of plastic-stuff.
Is this piece of HTC intelligence SEXY OR WHAT?
Cheers
android_owl said:
Hello my nerds!
My question is simple, maybe a bit stupid but what'so'ever:
What's your opinion 'bout the device (HTC ONE X)? I'm going to upgrade my old htc desire with one after the Samsung S3 is released but an ugly piece of plastic-stuff.
Is this piece of HTC intelligence SEXY OR WHAT?
Cheers
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Stay away from the us one x. It has no micro SD, no quad core and 4g lte is almost non existant
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My views in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727905
since you are a recognized developer, and from HTC Desire just like me. COme on in. We love devs!
it is sexy and development is hot plus long term software support. stay away from Samsung.
JUST REMEMBER,
you interact with the screen the most
and the one x has got a hell of a good screen
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The one x is the better choice believe me. Above everything else you should look at a manufacturers past performance. Samsung are woeful when it comes to releasing updates, whereas HTC keep dedicated teams on each model for two years and updates are regular.
Another reason is sense 4. It is the best android launcher ever.
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Thank you for all your answers! I'll buy it next week
android_owl said:
Thank you for all your answers! I'll buy it next week
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gonna say ut early, WELCOME TO THE FAMILY
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i have both samsung is more stable S3, but HOX is more better in visual.
Both have their winning parts, but HOX is better.
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i have both samsung is more stable S3, but HOX is more better in visual.
Both have their winning parts, but HOX is better.
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yep and as we get near to our ota with 3.1.10 kernel, 4.0.4, menu removal, and new nvidia drivers this phone will smoke the s3 like it or not~ YAAYYY ONE X.
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I was going to buy the Galaxy S3... But I got to experience it two days ago and I hated it. The speed and the screen are okay... The interface is yucky though as well as the keyboard.
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I heard something about nvidia tegra 3 update in this thread, is it real? will nvidia update drivers for tegra 3 in one x ? becouse now i think it is kind of lame, so much power and still has some lags in the glowing ball app which is made for tegra 3 ....
I upgraded from the Desire to the HOX & haven't regretted it once, when i saw the SGS3 i was glad i never waited.
The screen on the HOX is far superior & the HOX feels like a superior phone too, besides although the HOX had minor overheating until the first updates they weren't as bad as this.
http://www.kitguru.net/mobile/blair-mcclelland/samsungs-galaxy-s-iii-has-a-minor-meltdown/
I was initially a Gnex user. Never thought of s3 or HOX. HOX looks cool and awesome but I never want it cuz i want nexus anytime. S3 got announced n I thought it was meh.. Shortly after that, I my nexus had a mobo failure. Went for warranty and sold it. Got one x instead.
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i have a nexus 7 best tablet by far
oops wrong thread
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i have a nexus 7 best tablet by far
oops wrong thread
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How???0.0
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How???0.0
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Don't take the piss. He is just kidding.
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I was initially a Gnex user. Never thought of s3 or HOX. HOX looks cool and awesome but I never want it cuz i want nexus anytime. S3 got announced n I thought it was meh.. Shortly after that, I my nexus had a mobo failure. Went for warranty and sold it. Got one x instead.
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What happened to your Nexus?
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Don't take the piss. He is just kidding.
What happened to your Nexus?
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:/ ... I would of been so happy
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Don't take the piss. He is just kidding.
What happened to your Nexus?
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I am not sure how it happened. Checking some twitter, laying down on my bed. Then few minutes I can't turn it on ever again. The center said it was mobo replacement. Sold it cuz that time one x just released. I missed my nexus though, if I got any extra cash I would buy it back. But, I never regretted getting HOX.
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So i have been having my nexus galaxy for a couple of weeks and just download codename rom and i have to say its the best android phone i have so far. Then I see someone wanting to trade mine for a new htc one x. Specs wise theres a difference but I need your guys input if you guys would in a heartbeat or give input if I should or not. To me I am thinking jb>sense ui but on the other hand they said for one x, jb is coming out and jb on a quad core sounds crazy.
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So i have been having my nexus galaxy for a couple of weeks and just download codename rom and i have to say its the best android phone i have so far. Then I see someone wanting to trade mine for a new htc one x. Specs wise theres a difference but I need your guys input if you guys would in a heartbeat or give input if I should or not. To me I am thinking jb>sense ui but on the other hand they said for one x, jb is coming out and jb on a quad core sounds crazy.
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Don't do it. The nexus may not have the same specs as the one x but it delivers a superior experience due to vanilla android vs HTC sense. That and JB may be the last update the one x sees where as the nexus probably has few more in line.
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No. Not in a million years.
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1) Trade
2) Sell for $500
3) Rebuy Nexus for $350
4) PROFIT!
Disclaimer: I'm joking.. kinda.
Edit: Assuming the one x is unlocked of course. Locked phones go for significantly less.
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1) Trade
2) Sell for $500
3) Rebuy Nexus for $350
4) PROFIT!
Disclaimer: I'm joking.. kinda.
Edit: Assuming the one x is unlocked of course. Locked phones go for significantly less.
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Omg never thought of that. I think ima do it lol.
I would not I just got my gnexus and its great I got the white one international version
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Before having a GN, I was using an HTC panache.
I still think HTC make great device but if you love flashing and to have the latest Android, you should keep your GN.
Unlock bootloader can be painful and risky. Customs ROMS need more time before being ported because of some proprietary modules...
My 2c
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Who cares. If you don't like flashing and want the latest and greatest. Then get the galaxy nexus.
If you like to flash, then get whatever.
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So i have been having my nexus galaxy for a couple of weeks and just download codename rom and i have to say its the best android phone i have so far. Then I see someone wanting to trade mine for a new htc one x. Specs wise theres a difference but I need your guys input if you guys would in a heartbeat or give input if I should or not. To me I am thinking jb>sense ui but on the other hand they said for one x, jb is coming out and jb on a quad core sounds crazy.
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Do not I actually gave a brand new white att one x for a nexus because its a lot better the nexus just rockssss I love it and wouldn't go back
There's just so many reasons its better
The nexus is kind of like the iPhone line but now better since it will keep getting updates and there's only one released every year plus its unlocked and has great features
Trust me I'd you want key lime pie don't even think about the one x
Quad core and dual core are the stupidists fughts trust me quad core or 8 cores doesn't mean jack if you can not have the latest on it
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I previously had an HTC and now a GNEX.... I personally wouldn't go back to their products unless you plan on using a custom rom. I dislike their software.
I would do it and try it. And of you didn't like it. Someone out there will be willing to trade it for a gnex. Just like you are!
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Yep..try it for awhile. U dont like it, sell it. Still some profit there. Still,its kinda fishy the guy just want to trade it like that...maybe not a business wise guy
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Yep..try it for awhile. U dont like it, sell it. Still some profit there. Still,its kinda fishy the guy just want to trade it like that...maybe not a business wise guy
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Not everyone is tech savvy enough to know the difference
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Personally, I wouldn't even do the trade for sale and profit. The quality control of the gnex varies somewhat. Mine has a good screen, overclocks well, and seems loud enough. IMO, if you have a good one, keep it. If you have a not-so-good one, go for it.
Trade it, sell the one x and but a GN again(profit). Or wait for the new nexus
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Trade it, sell the one x and but a GN again(profit). Or wait for the new nexus
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Any rumors/idea when is the new nexus coming?
You guys are right. I have a perfect gem galaxy nexus with no problems with perfectly calibrated screen, and battery is amazing. I am currently at 43% percent battery life with 17h so far with almost 50 percent screen on time just with random kernel and no display tweaks. Going to do this guide to make it even more better http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599025 . I am astonished. I told him I am going to hold it off for now. I am prolly going to look for another galaxy nexus to buy and then do that and maybe do a side to side comparison. Then make profit .
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1) Trade
2) Sell for $500
3) Rebuy Nexus for $350
4) PROFIT!
Disclaimer: I'm joking.. kinda.
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basically this. then you can even get an accessory for the Nexus after. you know, if you're into that kind of thing.
Do you like listening to music on your phone? If so, steer clear of anything that HTC have made in the last 2 years. They have a serious design flaw in the way they've been shielding their audio chip set, so there is a real problem with line noise. You get this low hissing sound in the background of every track. I had to ditch my One X cause it was giving me headaches.
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Lol, well I came from an EVO 4G LTE myself (One X variant) to the galaxy nexus. I love everything about this phone...but I really miss the camera on the HTC, along with the SLCD2 screen, and kickstand haha.
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With newer phones out like Samsung's Galaxy S3 and Note II, and the new One X+, and upcoming LG Nexus 4, and new Nokia Windows 8 Phone.
Are you still happy with your One X ? Or do you feel its outdated or behind the times already ?
For me, running CM10 ROM, I find this phone amazing still, and top of the line. The screen is still a reference benchmark, when newer phones are reviewed, the One X screen is always discussed with newer phones, that days a lot to me.
Opinion ?
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It's great, but I'll still want a Nexus 4
absolutely...still waiting for JB update though...
Reason I ask, is because my Wife and I nerd one more unlocked phone to finally leave Verizon, we live in the States ( Chicago ). I wanna go prepaid plan, no commitment, no contract, and will save big $$ each month too. I bought the international One X in white off eBay and love it. Now need one more phone.
Was either thinking another international One X off eBay, or wait to see the official price on the LG Nexus 4 ? If the Nexus 4 is close in price to a used unlocked One X then I will go Nexus 4. Or I cooks get the current GSM Galaxy Nexus brand new for $349, I already have the Verizon Nexus, but it won't work on new plan we moving too, and the battery life blows on this Verizon Nexus.
What would you recommend ?
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Zorachus said:
Reason I ask, is because my Wife and I nerd one more unlocked phone to finally leave Verizon, we live in the States ( Chicago ). I wanna go prepaid plan, no commitment, no contract, and will save big $$ each month too. I bought the international One X in white off eBay and love it. Now need one more phone.
Was either thinking another international One X off eBay, or wait to see the official price on the LG Nexus 4 ? If the Nexus 4 is close in price to a used unlocked One X then I will go Nexus 4. Or I cooks get the current GSM Galaxy Nexus brand new for $349, I already have the Verizon Nexus, but it won't work on new plan we moving too, and the battery life blows on this Verizon Nexus.
What would you recommend ?
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The GNexus should see a substantial price drop when the Nexus 4 is released
The only problem i have is overheating!!! No root, all i have officially...
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I'm happy with my hox
I'm still in love with my HOX on ARHD 12
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I'm getting a Nexus 4, for that price it's stupid not to!
Not happy at all, still haven't managed to replace it after it suffered from the wifi antenna issue. Stupid HTC, never buying from those people again.
I was. But today has hit me twice. One 3 say no JB update till the middle of November and Two , Just look at that Nexus 4 ,,One x on ebay tonight I think
"Not happy at all, still haven't managed to replace it after it suffered from the wifi antenna issue. Stupid HTC, never buying from those people again."
I had that issue, after reading others dealings with the repair centres i popped it apart and tweaked it myself, that was 4-5 months ago... been perfect since. Glad i did.
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I'm getting a Nexus 4, for that price it's stupid not to!
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Yup, me too
Just the "HBoot" thingy is ridiculous enough to makes me unhappy
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Not happy at all, still haven't managed to replace it after it suffered from the wifi antenna issue. Stupid HTC, never buying from those people again.
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i had that iussue too but i repared it by myself easy and successfull
Yeah I'm still happy with my One X. :cyclops:
I'm still happy with my One X
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I'm getting a Nexus 4, for that price it's stupid not to!
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Indeed, crazy price for a new phone. Goodbye One X...
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Nexus 4 for me @ $349 is cheaper than a good used One X on eBay.
Will give my wife this One X, running CM10
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As the title says feel free to discuss and share your thoughts.
Have fun and be nice
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Currently on a 2 year contract so will probably wait for the one x 3
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Im the sort of person who won't buy something for the sake off it so I'll probably run my one x into the ground before I even think about a new phone.
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I'll use it as fry pan ,it has just the right temperature to fry eggs(no oil though my hox has gaps :-X)
atrako1973 said:
I'll use it as fry pan ,it has just the right temperature to fry eggs
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That reminds me of the old xbox 360 days
atrako1973 said:
I'll use it as fry pan ,it has just the right temperature to fry eggs
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That made me wet myself laughing.
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Also in a 2 year contract..lol.. also I feel fine with my one x...and its great to wait 2 years..and really feel a difference to my htc desire...
For temperature..my 2 core laptop also get warm if i play some harder games...
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can we start calling it the two x? can we make it a new thing? pretty please? lol
Well, what I always do is buy the successor then decide which one to keep a month later...this year the One X has grown on me....so it may be a keeper for another year
Probably give it to my partner... She's been eyeing it up ever since I got it. I'll probably go for a Nexus 4 before my contracts up and I'm fairly certain this will be my last hTC device even though I love the build quality and design. That is unless their policy with regard to s-off/updates becomes a lot less sucky.
My next phone would be HTC Two X, then HTC Three X and....
Yep same. Stuck in a 24 month contract but I'm already starting to think about a new device. The One X is great but I'm pretty sure this will be my last HTC. Again, the s-off nonsense and laxidasical approach to releasing sources coupled with being spoilt with the openness of Nexus have all made me reconsider
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Depends on what the 2x has, is its too hard to pass up ill sell my one x and get one, if not ill keep the one x and honour my whole 2 year contract
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I'm probably done with HTC, I'm waiting a while because I think Google will release a 32GB Nexus 4. At that point I'll buy a 16GB Nexus 4 for $300 instead of $350.
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I think I will buy a galaxy s5 or 6
For now i'm happy with one x,what can they do more ?
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Keep the One X+
Like several others, I'm on the 2yr plan. I really like the One X+ so far.
I had an Aria, then an Inspire 4G before and really like HTC build quality.
Much better than my dad's Samsung Galaxy SII.
I think I'll get a nexus device for my next phone. I actually really wanted a galacy nexus but was spec struck by the one x... And quicker updates wpyld be nice. That said it would be interesting to see what they come up with next.
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massalami said:
can we start calling it the two x? can we make it a new thing? pretty please? lol
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Done changed it just for you so now is what would people do with there one x when the two x comes round
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Done changed it just for you so now is what would people do with there one x when the two x comes round
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Hahaha nice. Thanks mate.
I'll probably hold on to the one X for a while unless I go visit France or the us next may for break.
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Like other people said when I'll change my hox I'll jump ship and probably buy a gphone. The problem is not the s-off itself but the warranty matter that comes without it. It's a pity cos htc always made really good phones and I'm with it since the good old htc magician with windows mobile 2003.
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With HTCs latest move of removing htcruu.com and no s off.
As well as build problems. I.e, sensation death grip and hox, yellow spots, wifi.
What will you be moving to next and why?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096463
What is your next phone after HOX
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With HTCs latest move of removing htcruu.com and no s off.
As well as build problems. I.e, sensation death grip and hox, yellow spots, wifi.
What will you be moving to next and why?
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I have 4 choices , note 3, iPhone 5s , next nexus or the one x successor with TegrA 4, I love my one x but u think that Htc should improve the audio and optimise the os better.
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To be honest my first android phone was HTC ,I had all the phones with all the problems you mentioned ,I think I need to get away to Samsung phones and see the performance ,get accustomed with rooting and all with Samsung and then decide if its worth it ,cause honestly I couldn't care less about sense and built quality if performance and battery life is good ,the end of the day phone life is 2 years.im Sure a plastic Samsung will last 2 years rather than good built quality with component deffects and all the crap that HTC is doing now
htc one x
htc again
Me too. I like sense but feed up of HTC and their antics. I'm going to move to xperia z
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i had the htc tytn then desire and now one x ,next phone will be samsung,there so much easier to mod ,cant htc see thats why samsung have a huge customer base,
My OneX stopped working due to water damage. Not stocked anymore so insurance gave me a GS3 32g.
Had one when released and hated it.
New one on jellybean is good though.
Still miss the one x but Samsung aren't really that bad. Stock vs stock goes to HTC with Sense.
That being said I can't wait for Xperia Z.
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My next smart phone will be a samsung, would have considered iphone5s but 4inch screen to small for me.
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No more HTC i'm done with them. I might go for Xperia XL or any other device .. Maybe the next MIUI device rumored with T4.
I dont know yet, i have hox and sg3, so i guess no one this year, no more HTC for sure... No soff, so, by htc. Gonna break for sure, at least phones. Will keep building only windows phones, so i predict competition with nokia only.
So the only brand is Sony and Samy, Sony will see no updates as it should, son maybe ending with Samsung.
Thanks for everything Htc, great phone, tegra is great on gaming but battery sucks in JB. Uncontrolled ota, ruu encrypted.. And more.. But well, hox still a great phone but .won't buy an htc phone anymore. Even if they give us SOFF.
And i dont lie.
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Samsung S4..
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If S4 has awesome design then I ll go for it. Otherwise HOX until sth nice pops up!
On the road using my HOX
Unless HTC goes back to its glory days, this November I am getting a GS4 or the GNote 3.
I'm done with HTC. If I want to have a expensive peace of crap I will buy a IPhone. Because of there strategie to keep the devices locked within the future they should keep this trash!
I'm waiting for my Note2.
Some interesting comments. Seems there is abit of frustration with htc. Was going to go for the butterfly but All butterfly has is a bigger screen and krait.
but I'm moving to Sony Now. Atleast they do not break promises or let customers down
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Some interesting comments. Seems there is abit of frustration with htc. Was going to go for the butterfly but All butterfly has is a bigger screen and krait.
but I'm moving to Sony Now. Atleast they do not break promises or let customers down
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Sony updates are even slower and have a lot of bugs..
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Sony updates are even slower and have a lot of bugs..
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But at least they have a damn good hardware. The best base to build own ROMs.
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Yes and they five updates when they say they will. Who cares about updates. if it is doing everything it needs to. Why compassion. You will get it
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Sorry to make this a new thread, but anyone noticed that HOX was removed from TOP Devices section in XDA forum?
I only see the AT&T HTC One X. Where is the International one?
Thx
And eventually, the Nexus 4 will be gone, then the HTC One, then the Galaxy S4, etc. Time flies by, but technology zips faster than time these days.
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And eventually, the Nexus 4 will be gone, then the HTC One, then the Galaxy S4, etc. Time flies by, but technology zips faster than time these days.
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U're right. HOX is already an old device...lol
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And eventually, the Nexus 4 will be gone, then the HTC One, then the Galaxy S4, etc. Time flies by, but technology zips faster than time these days.
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This is a good and bad thing, good as technology therefor advances fast, BAD because we need to try and keep up.
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U're right. HOX is already an old device...lol
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It may be old(ish), but still a rudy beast !!
I wish it stayed there for sometime since I just bought my HOX a month ago!
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It may be old(ish), but still a rudy beast !!
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certainly is! i held off from getting the one as im happy with my hox til next upgrade
the t from the logo on the back has fallen off an there's a yellow spot but still an awesome machine
So is the AT&T One X superior to ours in so many ways?
Oh, that's time, guys! I bought the HOX only 3 weeks ago It's better than the old Sensation
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So is the AT&T One X superior to ours in so many ways?
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That's the 1st thing that came to my mind when I saw our international Tegra3 was removed from there
Yeah it was kinda depressing. We have a very active development community and yeah the device is old-ish but its still one of the most powerful ones out there.
Sad but oh well. Been using the app more than the website anyway nowadays
But Samsung I9100 is still in top devices section. It's little bit strange. What's the criterias for "Top device"?
Just as I moved onto the Note 2 Only had the HTC for a year!
No regrets either, only on 4.1 but the bluetooth works in my car, which was always one of the big annoyances with the One X for me.
Thanks HTC and XDA, it's been fun. :good:
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Sorry to make this a new thread, but anyone noticed that HOX was removed from TOP Devices section in XDA forum?
I only see the AT&T HTC One X. Where is the International one?
Thx
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yes but the only one that will allways stay is the hd2