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Googlemail and gmail - warning and advice

A slightly lengthy attempt to summarise the (often contradictory) advice on this issue.
The problem: Google is allowing UK users to change from @googlemail addresses to @gmail. Many users report persistent messages that google talk authentication has failed and downloads from the market are freezing.
How to make the change (READ the rest of this before you do!): Login to your Google mail account and go to settings/account. You will see a small link offering the option. Some users report a need to do this twice before it 'sticks'. (Baed on my experience, I suspect the change takes some time to propagate - see final note here). You can reverse this change in the same way.
Solutions (or not!)
1. There is no 100% reliable way to change the gmail account details on your phone without a factory reset.
Some users recommend clearing the Google Apps data from within Apps Manager which then prompts you to set up the account details again. This option is grayed out for many
Some have recommended changing your account password. For me this did not allow me to change all the account details on the phone​
2. You can set up a second gmail account on the phone with the @gmail details. However this may not allow you to delete the @googlemail account although some have suggested it does. You will recieve copies of all emails on both accounts!
3. Do a factory reset. Back up all your data, take a deep breath and go for it! Seriously, this did not actually result in a lot of work for me as I don't have a truckload of apps on the phone. You have the choice of reverting to the @googlemail account (which is what I did) or setting up with the new @gmail details. From what I can gather the latter approach does not result in problems with re-installing paid for apps - but no promises!
NOTE: You will receive email sent to either @googlemail or @gmail on your old @googlemail account so you could just start using @gmail as your address and forget about the problem!
...and finally. Having gone through all of the work associated with a factory reset to @googlemail, I discover that Google has reset my account to @gmail anyway and everything seems to be working OK! I do wonder if changes to accounts are propagating very slowly. (I also wonder if Google knows what it is doing, but that's another story)
Hope this is some help

I had this problem and corrected it by reverting back to @googlemail.
But what gets me is that considering how widespread this problem is, is the overwhelming silence from Google.

NineToTheSky said:
I had this problem and corrected it by reverting back to @googlemail.
But what gets me is that considering how widespread this problem is, is the overwhelming silence from Google.
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Probably because most UK Desire owners have phones from Orange, and they've removed Google Talk (although they've handily left the service running!), so this isn't going to be a problem for them. Also, a lot of people have always known that you could always ignore the `googlemail` thing and use gmail.

Why bother?
Any email sent to [email protected] is received by [email protected] anyway..
Fon22

Why bother? Because, as the OP says, if, in the UK, you change you address from googlemail to gmail, you won't be able to download anything from the App Market.

is there anywhere we can ask google to provide android switchover instructions?

You know you don't have to put the @ when setting up an account.
When I set up both my G1 and my Desire I just signed in with the Google user name.

Just to add my bit, I'm a Google apps account owner, my domain is not gmail or googlemail its simply hosted by Google and even though I've done nothing its stopped working for me also on my desire. I get the same googletalk auth error and can't download anything from the apps store either.
Interestingly, even from my pc, if I goto googletalk it won't let me in either, yet email and other Google apps like docs and calendar work no bother. Selecting Google talk gives a 404 unauthorized.

Plus side:
Picasa web albums now sync

Just to add my bit, I'm a Google apps account owner, my domain is not gmail or googlemail its simply hosted by Google and even though I've done nothing its stopped working for me also on my desire. I get the same googletalk auth error and can't download anything from the apps store either.
Interestingly, even from my pc, if I goto googletalk it won't let me in either, yet email and other Google apps like docs and calendar work no bother. Selecting Google talk gives a 404 unauthorized.
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I got exactly the same as this, after everything working brilliantly for 3 days!! I have now setup a gmail account to sign the phone up with and the turn all sync off for it, thrn setup my Google for domains and setup the calendar through exchange and everything is working fine...its a big faff, but it will works well: )
I did do a lot of reading and apparently Google for domains doesn't work with Google talk full stop... BUT why work for days with no problems!! Stupid!!
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Question about Android Market apps on multiple phones

Here is the scenario.
I have my Samsung Epic. I purchased a Samsung Epic for my wife. She has her own Gmail account so when I configured the phone, I configured it for her gmail account. I would like to use a couple of the apps that I purchased in my Market on my wife's phone. I know how to add my account to my wife's phone, and get my paid apps to show up in her market. Here is the problem.
I would like to keep her phone on her market. How do apps that do license checks work in this scenario???

Milkman00 said:
Here is the scenario.
I have my Samsung Epic. I purchased a Samsung Epic for my wife. She has her own Gmail account so when I configured the phone, I configured it for her gmail account. I would like to use a couple of the apps that I purchased in my Market on my wife's phone. I know how to add my account to my wife's phone, and get my paid apps to show up in her market. Here is the problem.
I would like to keep her phone on her market. How do apps that do license checks work in this scenario???
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So you're trying to use a single user license for multiple phones? Gotcha...
P.C. answer: She has to purchase each paid application under her account if she plans on utilizing any of them.
Non-P.C. answer: Given what you are trying to accomplish (pirating software for your wife's device), this may or may not work with multiple phones accessing the same Google account. You can have more than 1 Google account on the phone. After you have added the 2nd Google account to the phone, press the menu soft key and select "Accounts" within the Market. Select which account you wish to use. This also means that your wife will also have access to your Gmail, calendar and all that is Google for your account.
I highly think Google did not intend people to share their account with others (family, friends or etc.) to circumvent the purchasing of Market applications. Whether they properly coded their software to prevent such actions is a different matter. I guess you will find out.

nikon120 said:
So you're trying to use a single user license for multiple phones? Gotcha...
P.C. answer: She has to purchase each paid application under her account if she plans on utilizing any of them.
Non-P.C. answer: Given what you are trying to accomplish (pirating software for your wife's device), this may or may not work with multiple phones accessing the same Google account.You can have more than 1 Google account on the phone. After you have added the 2nd Google account to the phone, press the menu soft key and select "Accounts" within the Market. Select which account you wish to use. This also means that your wife will also have access to your Gmail, calendar and all that is Google for your account.
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I am not asking about theft. I thought that I read on Google that purchase of an app allows me to use it on all of my devices. Since my wife's phone is on my Sprint account, under my name, I thought that this was legit.
http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=113410
I know the example isn't exactly like my scenario but the verbiage states "Your application purchases are tied to your Google Account and can be installed an unlimited amount of times on any device". There is nothing there about simultaneoius uses.
As for your non-PC answer, I can set my wife's phone to non sync my e-mail and calendar, but I am more concerned about the license check. How does that work with multiple market accounts?? How does the license check work?

What about folks with a phone and a tablet? I've been curious about this.

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What about folks with a phone and a tablet? I've been curious about this.
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With the market and Amazon market I have all apps that I purchased on all of my devices. He would have to set it up with his gmail as main one and then add hers. He could then set it not to synch his gmail on her phone. He may like it to synch his calendar on her phone. Lots of families do that.
Hope this helps.
Samsung Epicly Legendary Galaxy S

lancelane said:
With the market and Amazon market I have all apps that I purchased on all of my devices. He would have to set it up with his gmail as main one and then add hers. He could then set it not to synch his gmail on her phone. He may like it to synch his calendar on her phone. Lots of families do that.
Hope this helps.
Samsung Epicly Legendary Galaxy S
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Exactly this I have all of my apps on both of my phones
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lancelane said:
With the market and Amazon market I have all apps that I purchased on all of my devices. He would have to set it up with his gmail as main one and then add hers. He could then set it not to synch his gmail on her phone. He may like it to synch his calendar on her phone. Lots of families do that.
Hope this helps.
Samsung Epicly Legendary Galaxy S
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And what if she wanted to purchase an app on her Google account? Would her account have to be primary to use the paid apps?

The account doesn't have to be set as "primary" per se. Just set up husband account on wife's phone, and set to not sync contacts etc. Open the market app, soft key menu, select account. Select husband account. Download app. Re-set account in market to wifes account.
The market will find updates for both her and his accounts automatically for installed apps on her phone.
I have two gmail accounts of my own, and apps installed from both. It's basically the same thing as what OP is asking.
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Wow. I didn't realize you could do that. Nice to know. Thanks for the info.
Samsung Legendary Epic

with the older version of the market, the purchaser had to be the main gmail account on the device. with the new market, it doesnt matter who is #1 or #2.

I set up a seperate "family" gmail account so we can share paid apps across our devices without having access to each other's gmail. I have a few paid apps on my own account from before I did this, but I can always log into one of their phones and download the apps, then delete the account. Only issue there is won't get updates unless I log my account back in.

Good to know this.. was a bit vague about the TOS..

All good suggestions. Here's one more:
You could get AirDroid (available off Market) to export the paid app of your choice from one phone and transfer it to another phone. It's quick and easy.
Plus I recommend AirDroid as a generally useful app anyway. =)

LoneBullet said:
All good suggestions. Here's one more:
You could get AirDroid (available off Market) to export the paid app of your choice from one phone and transfer it to another phone. It's quick and easy.
Plus I recommend AirDroid as a generally useful app anyway. =)
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Yea you can also use a file manager with root permissions or Titanium backup to get the apk and install it on any device you want.
However, the easiest thing to do is use a single account to purchase all applications on and sync that to each device. Families do this all the time. 1 account for all paid apps and sometimes pictures, then their own personal account for mail and etc.

nikon120 said:
Yea you can also use a file manager with root permissions or Titanium backup to get the apk and install it on any device you want.
However, the easiest thing to do is use a single account to purchase all applications on and sync that to each device. Families do this all the time. 1 account for all paid apps and sometimes pictures, then their own personal account for mail and etc.
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Done this with Google Music as well. It's nice having one central family gmail account so everyone can share music, pictures and apps.
Plus Google Play allows you to set up a pin number on individual devices to keep my kids from trying to purchase paid apps without telling me. This is the one feature that the Amazon App store is severely lacking. I have no problem using my Amazon account on my wife's phone, but I won't put it on my kids' as there's no parental controls to block one click purchases other than in-app purchases.

[Q] Google backup

I have flashed an ICS rom and when I created my google account to sync I unchecked backup my data. Is there a way to enable that again without having to remove the google account and add it again?

You can change the options from your account page from google. You need to login to google and easiest way would be using web browser from your pc.
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Where do I need to go. I have tried logging into gmail but didn't see it there. Then I logged into to google and looked at the dashboard and didn't see it there. There is a lot of stuff so I am unsure as to where I need to look for it.

How to set primary Play store account? Keeps resetting to my other google account

I have a primary account A that I use for everything but I have three other google accounts (used only for gmail). Whenever I click on a link to go to the play store from within an app, it'll load up my account B instead of A. I select A but then it just goes back to B later. Is there a way to hard set it to A all the time?

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I have a primary account A that I use for everything but I have three other google accounts (used only for gmail). Whenever I click on a link to go to the play store from within an app, it'll load up my account B instead of A. I select A but then it just goes back to B later. Is there a way to hard set it to A all the time?
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Id Love to know this too, its why i only have my one account set...

tracerit said:
I have a primary account A that I use for everything but I have three other google accounts (used only for gmail). Whenever I click on a link to go to the play store from within an app, it'll load up my account B instead of A. I select A but then it just goes back to B later. Is there a way to hard set it to A all the time?
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What is your backup account under settings > backup & reset? The same as account A?

Petrovski80 said:
What is your backup account under settings > backup & reset? The same as account A?
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it's Account A.
Here's the whole story. I wanted to buy a ChompSMS license but the only way to do it is through the app > menu > buy license. It then brings you to the play store under Account B. searching for the app license purchase in the play store doesn't show anything either so that's not an option.
what's weird is that i have an account C and D as well, after I deleted Account B, account A would be working to make the purchase. i thought maybe account C or D would kick in but not. Accounts B, C, and D all have the same settings, rather that they're only used for gmail syncs.

I had similar problem, i have account A for irl people gmail and google services & play store, and B&C for other registration purposes, newsletters etc.
On my previous phone i used account B for play store, so on gnex every app from previous phone was associated with account B, so i just deleted account B, downloaded all apps, and added account B again.

Ok, so for in-app billing it doesn't select the primary Google play account. Interesting. I'm not sure if that's due to the in-app billing implementation of the app itself, or due to general Android components handling in-app billing.
Some info here, but no details on how to handle multiple accounts: http://developer.android.com/guide/google/play/billing/billing_overview.html

Petrovski80 said:
Ok, so for in-app billing it doesn't select the primary Google play account. Interesting. I'm not sure if that's due to the in-app billing implementation of the app itself, or due to general Android components handling in-app billing.
Some info here, but no details on how to handle multiple accounts: http://developer.android.com/guide/google/play/billing/billing_overview.html
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i'm not sure it's in-app billing since when i click on "buy license" it takes me to the google play store.

Oh no that's not it. Still strange that launching the play store via an app results in selecting a different account. Is this the case with all apps that launch the play store?
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How to change default Google account?

I just picked up an M9 from Verizon over the weekend and set up both my personal and work Google accounts. Coming from an S3, I'm not very familiar with Lollipop yet. The phone apparently thinks that my work account is my main account, and every app seems to default to using it.
For instance, in Chrome, I'm automatically signed in with my work account. I do not recall ever being asked which one to use. If I switch to my personal account, close the tab, then open a new one, I'm signed into my work account again in the new tab.
In other apps as well, my work account is default and I have to manually switch to my personal account using the drop down box.
Any ideas on how I can make my personal account the default?

You can go into each accounts sync settings and put a check next to that box.
For example, I have my Mothers account on my phone cause she's not a techie. I just want her Gmail to sync so I have a check next to just her Gmail account.
I hope that helps.

I don't think that the sync settings have anything to do with it. Besides, I need to have my work account synced up with at least mail, calendar, contacts, docs, etc.
I figured out how to properly switch accounts in Chrome. I should have completely signed out of my work account in the Chrome settings rather than through the "switch account" link at the bottom of the Google search results page. Once I did that, I was able to sign in with my personal account.
Edit: Chrome sync for my work account was turned off the entire time.

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I don't think that the sync settings have anything to do with it. Besides, I need to have my work account synced up with at least mail, calendar, contacts, docs, etc.
I figured out how to properly switch accounts in Chrome. I should have completely signed out of my work account in the Chrome settings rather than through the "switch account" link at the bottom of the Google search results page. Once I did that, I was able to sign in with my personal account.
Edit: Chrome sync for my work account was turned off the entire time.
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When you started the phone setup, did you put your work Gmail account in first? If so, that's probably why. I would suggest removing your work Gmail, then add it after a reboot. My hope here is that the personal account takes over a the primary, as I don't think you can do it any other way.
Edit: I've also read that your only hope may be a factory reset... But I would recommend the above method--you may also want to open chrome, play store, and other g-apps prior to adding your work account back.

No, I set up my personal account first. But yeah, I might have to try that and see if it works.