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Sprint dumping 4g?

So what is more logical ? Sprint dumping 4g for LTE deal. Or dual banding. I personally will be pissed if the ditch 4g.
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lilman355 said:
So what is more logical ? Sprint dumping 4g for LTE deal. Or dual banding. I personally will be pissed if the ditch 4g.
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I'm guessing you read the article on Engadget or something...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/17/lightsquared-and-sprint-reportedly-sign-15-year-lte-agreement/
I don't think Sprint is going to completely get rid of 4G, instead they are going to try to expand their service with the new deal with LightSquared and provide their customers with 4G LTE.
When a provider gets a new service, they don't get rid of the old one completely! Think about how 4G got introduce to Sprint......they didn't get rid of 3G did they???..hahaha

They're not dumping 4G. LTE is 4G as well. They do appear to be introducing LTE into the mix, but we don't know yet how the transition from WiMax to LTE will work. Both will probably co-exist for awhile. But they're not dumping 4G.

you think they'll update the evos to get 4G LTE when they upgrade?

They would most likely not upgrade Evos. It is a hardware issue.
They would probably use LTE as its main system after it grows a bit, and Wimax as its backhaul.
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Sprint 4G phones won't stop working until long after the contract is up
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So we still have a few years for that

What pisses me off the most is that, I got the Evo 4g knowing that one day I would get the ridiculously fast speeds. If I don't get that, I will not be a happy camper. I know there is nothing I can do about it, but if they can expand the 4g before going LTE on their phones I will be fine. I'm not rich, I can't get a new phone every year. This really makes me question sprints reliability
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The actual deal sounds more like an agreement for Sprint to use their backhaul and for them to use Sprint's towers. It doesn't say anything about Sprint getting rid of 4G.

4g LTE.
at least there will be some sort of 4g in az. we have been promised for about a year and still nothing. however from what i have read wimax is faster than LTE. oh well just want 4g sometime in az.

what i think is the more likely scenario depending if LTE gets a pass from the government (since it interferes with GPS satellites) is that sprint will dual band essentially achieving what both verizon and ATTTMOBILE have already achieved which is voice calling while using data.there fore having wimax and LTE it can be achieved plus if u think about it where ever u are u will have 4G

Yup, you'll just need a new phone to use it. And I'd wait for the network before deciding on a phone. I was told my area would be getting 4G by the end of last year. Still nothing. Not that I care, 3G and WiFi are plenty fast for my needs, I can stream Pandora, Netflix, etc. and my battery lasts longer.

Sprint working on spreading 4G network?

I know that when I purchased the Evo I was kind of upset that I didn't have 4G because of my area. Now i'm onto the ET4G and still no 4g =/. What's my solution? Move to the city to get 4G? Curious I suppose and its a shame to have a 4g capable phone and not get 4g network.

Trust me I was with ATT and didn't get 4g either and not even 3G because a lot of there network isn't even 3G build yet. And they are way more expensive. Though now I at least have 3g with Sprint.
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i hate to be the one to break the news to you bro. all the WiMax 4g towers that are currently installed and operational right now are all the 4g WiMax towers there ever will be. Sprint canned it since it was on a not power/non building penetrating frequency of like 2.6 ghz or something. verizon i beleive uses like 700mhz or something close to that which allows the single to penetrate buildings deeper and travel farther. Sprint just anounced its "Sprint Visions" plan i beleive its called. What it entails apon aproval from the FCC i beleive since its 20 or 40 mhz away from the GPS frequency. they are moving to LTE towers like Verizon. what does this mean for your WiMax handset? it will never see the light of day with 4g. it will not work on LTE as the 4g chip does not work on those frequncys. in early 2012 sprint will start to release new handsets with the new radio chip in them. i beleive they said it should all be deployed within 3 years? also that are moving to Rev B 3g so its faster. also will be able to use the internet and phone voice calls at the same time. they use all the push to talk nextel for the new 3g or something like that. idk, people if you know whats the plan better than i please feel free to correct me. but thats just the general idea of whats happening

You summed it up pretty well. WiMax won't be expanded, but it will continue to be supported for a few years. Sprint actually basically has 3 types of connections. EVDO, Nextel's PTT, and WiMax. They'll be able to put a multi-band antenna up at all the disparate sites, providing some awesome coverage! Of course this is still a ways away.

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Sprint hasn't canned 4g in my state they just put up two more towers one in my town and one about 6 miles outside the north side indy which will make a total of 4 towers in indy and that doesn't include the iu and iupui campuses. And they are putting up more so i don't know where you got your info that sprint canned 4g but they aren't now we are hosting the super bowl and that could be why They are putting up towers left and right in my city.

Sprint hasn't canned 4g, but is changing over to lte next year. All of this information came from the investment talk they gave I believe at the start of October. Sprint covered how this would work and that work on the towers was starting in order to move to the new 4g. Wimax will still run side by side with lte for a few years.

[Q] Sprint and the future of 4G?

While this is not necessarily an Epic question...I have been lurking in here for the last year or so, so I feel pretty comfortable with the Epic folks. I have been the goto guy for my family in regards to phone support and advice. In the past, I have always had a pretty good answer to "Which new phone should I get?"
Now, one of my family members wants an Android phone...one that is pretty fast and does "stuff" like internet, gps, apps, blah, blah, blah.
So what do you think? Would you recommend a 4G phone, knowing that Sprint is not going to be expanding the current 4G network? I know that they said current 4G phones will continue to be able to use the available 4G network, but if you live in an area without 4G...and they aren't expanding...???
Would you recommend waiting for the new 4G phones to come out? Are they 'around the corner' or years away?
What are your thoughts?

New 4G phones with Sprint LTE won't be available to mid 2012. If you have WiMax in your area now then a current 4G phone from Sprint will serve them well. Otherwise it will be a bit of a wait.
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Depends on your location. My concern would be if sprint would be keeping the current data plans when they switch over to LTE or if they will increase the price and limit the usage. If you have WiMax available and it works well i would suggest getting a current 4g model, otherwise i would say get if a phone is needed now, get it second hand lock in the contract, then when LTE is avail use the discount to get one of the new lte phones.

ok, i just did some reading about sprint's data network problem. it sounds from my understanding that, if they were to put a data cap, that it will be higher than all the other carriers and it would be for LTE. to answer your question, go ahead and get that android phone that you want. don't worry about will be in the next couple years or so, just worry about what is available now. you never know, you may win or you may lose. it's part of the data game.

What? No 4g expansion?! They have been working on it in my area but never got it fully functional.
Now I'm mad.
Why am I paying a $10 service charge for this device?
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I think the $10 was so they could be the first to roll out sub-par 4G and then have some cash to scrap it and roll 4G again to compete with other carriers.
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What happens to WiMax phones now there's LTE?

I was wondering since LTE is rolling out (at least here in Dallas it is), what happens to ppl with WiMax phones? I'm sure we'll still be able to use it, but shouldn't we be able to enjoy the network also? I'm not saying give everybody free phones, but at least make it possible for everybody to get a LTE phone, especially those who have suffered thru these horrible "4G" years. We spend our money on "Data plans" every month, but who actually enjoys their coverage? I know its alot of ppl who agree with me cause i see it all the time in these forums. Anybody have an idea as to whats up with this?

mrbsb said:
I was wondering since LTE is rolling out (at least here in Dallas it is), what happens to ppl with WiMax phones? I'm sure we'll still be able to use it, but shouldn't we be able to enjoy the network also? I'm not saying give everybody free phones, but at least make it possible for everybody to get a LTE phone, especially those who have suffered thru these horrible "4G" years. We spend our money on "Data plans" every month, but who actually enjoys their coverage? I know its alot of ppl who agree with me cause i see it all the time in these forums. Anybody have an idea as to whats up with this?
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You're fortunate you actually have 4g... I've been paying for 4g for 3 years, and the closes tower to me is 90 miles away. I have yet to hop on 4g on my epic 4G Touch.
I do agree with you, though.... They should give some sort of upgrade option.
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I was told at the sprint store Wimax will be used for the pre paid services like boost mobile so they too can jump on the 4g band wagon. While the rest of us like yourself who have been waiting for a larger 4g coverage are now forced into a different 4g network. Although LTE is much better by far.
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I was told at the sprint store Wimax will be used for the pre paid services like boost mobile so they too can jump on the 4g band wagon. While the rest of us like yourself who have been waiting for a larger 4g coverage are now forced into a different 4g network. Although LTE is much better by far.
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mrbsb said:
I was wondering since LTE is rolling out (at least here in Dallas it is), what happens to ppl with WiMax phones? I'm sure we'll still be able to use it, but shouldn't we be able to enjoy the network also? I'm not saying give everybody free phones, but at least make it possible for everybody to get a LTE phone, especially those who have suffered thru these horrible "4G" years. We spend our money on "Data plans" every month, but who actually enjoys their coverage? I know its alot of ppl who agree with me cause i see it all the time in these forums. Anybody have an idea as to whats up with this?
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Wiskid15 said:
You're fortunate you actually have 4g... I've been paying for 4g for 3 years, and the closes tower to me is 90 miles away. I have yet to hop on 4g on my epic 4G Touch.
I do agree with you, though.... They should give some sort of upgrade option.
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To sum this all up for you as a Sprint Representative that I am.....
-LTE is another ADD-ON of 4G that Sprint is rolling out with called "Network Vision". The addon/change is expected to be completely completed by the END of 2013. All future smartphones will only be LTE compatible. All CURRENT smartphone with WiMax will not be compatible on LTE 4G networks. Along with this, there is to be increased 3G as well (call quality and data speeds and fewer dropped calls and increased coverage overall).
-When 4G first came out there was a $10 charge (before most carriers even had limited data packages) now that other carriers have Limited packages the $10 premium is only required for SMARTPHONES ONLY. Whether or not you have "4G" or not for your Sprint smartphone. You can even have a "non-smartphone" on a data plan and NOT pay the $10 premium as it applys to ONLY smartphones.
-WiMax WILL continue to be with sprint ONLY at this current time. There is NO talk of Boost, Virgin Mobile, etc "other carriers" signing with "Clear-Wire" (WiMax) for their network. They will remain on Sprint's 3G network.
Hope that clears the air about some pondering questions.. Anything else just let me know..

Lately wimax is the only reason I have not hurled bricks through the windows of my local Sprint stores. Thankfully I get a good 4g signal at home and work because 3g has been unusable more often than not the last 6 months. Also in Sept I'm moving to a city (of over a million ppl) that is not on the first or 2nd round of LTE rollout so a phone with LTE would be worthless to me. I will probably be rocking my E4GT for the full duration of my contract.

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Lately wimax is the only reason I have not hurled bricks through the windows of my local Sprint stores. Thankfully I get a good 4g signal at home and work because 3g has been unusable more often than not the last 6 months. Also in Sept I'm moving to a city (of over a million ppl) that is not on the first or 2nd round of LTE rollout so a phone with LTE would be worthless to me. I will probably be rocking my E4GT for the full duration of my contract.
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I understand that.. I currently have the Epic 4G Touch. Cause to me having like an EVO 4G LTE or the Galaxy SIII is pointless if I cant use 4G yet sense I'm not in an LTE area yet and the recently released smartphones and future smartphones dont have WiMax capabilities..
Along with that by the time I get LTE there'll be better newer phones..

[Q] Difference between WiMax, 4G, and WiFi on Evo?

Simple question..
I'm a bit confused about WiMax and whether or not it is (strictly) a cellular communications technology embedded in the Evo 4G, such as 3G and 4G Mobile Data Speeds, and how this relates to the Evo's normal wifi connection.
Is there any crossover between WiMax and WiFi?
Or is WiMax simply a mobile data technology not related to the onboard wifi network card?
Thanks

I think the wimax is part of the 4g service...
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WiMax is a type of 4G, with LTE being another type (of 4G)
And yes, neither of those have anything to do with the wifi and there is no crossover involved
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CNexus said:
WiMax is a type of 4G, with LTE being another type (of 4G)
And yes, neither of those have anything to do with the wifi and there is no crossover involved
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^This. Older Sprint phones like the EVO 4G, EVO 3D and Samsung Galaxy S2 E4GT (among others) use Wimax, which was Sprint's original offering for 4G service. Sprint has since gone to LTE (Long Term Evolution) for their 4G service, although Wimax still works in areas where it's already active. Phones on Sprint utilizing LTE include the EVO 4G LTE and Samsung Galaxy S3. Wifi has nothing to do with either Wimax or LTE, as previously stated. A Wimax-enabled phone cannot utilize LTE, and vice-versa, as they are two completely different 4G standards and operate on different frequencies.
The advice is free....the bandwidth, not so much

It really grinds my gears that there aren't new phones available supporting either Wimax or LTE or Wimax AND LTE. I am stuck in Ohio where the Wimax roll out was thorough, and now there is no info on if/when LTE will come here. Eventually people in ohio will all have upgraded to LTE phones due to attrition and we are paying for data plans that we can't take advantage of. I really want a new phone, maybe the new One that is coming out soon, but the drawback is no 4G in Ohio. Sprint really dropped the ball on this one. I'd take a phone that was a little thicker so they could fit both chipsets in there no questions asked.

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It really grinds my gears that there aren't new phones available supporting either Wimax or LTE or Wimax AND LTE. I am stuck in Ohio where the Wimax roll out was thorough, and now there is no info on if/when LTE will come here. Eventually people in ohio will all have upgraded to LTE phones due to attrition and we are paying for data plans that we can't take advantage of. I really want a new phone, maybe the new One that is coming out soon, but the drawback is no 4G in Ohio. Sprint really dropped the ball on this one. I'd take a phone that was a little thicker so they could fit both chipsets in there no questions asked.
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Thats very true. I think it proabably has to do with the extra work of getting the two to play nice while both being available in one phone, and the extra drivers and hardware required to have both
Definitely what you said though, I'd have no problem with a bit thicker phone that features both but since other competitors are moving towards slimmer and sleeker phones, while at the same time having monstrously powerful processors, it probably wouldnt be a smart move on Sprint part

I was trolling the new HTC One forum yesterday, and did notice that the One might be coming with an LTE radio supporting 800mhz and 1900mhz. This is promising as I believe the 800mhz is what sprint rus the Direct Connect system on. That system is avail in my area so maybe they will use it for LTE? #wantLTE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158662

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I was trolling the new HTC One forum yesterday, and did notice that the One might be coming with an LTE radio supporting 800mhz and 1900mhz. This is promising as I believe the 800mhz is what sprint rus the Direct Connect system on. That system is avail in my area so maybe they will use it for LTE? #wantLTE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158662
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I remember hearing or reading something sometime back from sprint that eventually they were going to convert the old Nextel iden network over to 4g lte because of the bandwidth it runs on. I also remember that person telling me that this new lte on this frequency would penatrate 2-3x better meaning better 4g lte signals indoors. It may have been a sprint tech who told me on one of the many phone calls I have made to them over the years.
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Everything you say is true, just replace the word "bandwidth" with "spectrum". iDen was using lower frequencies which penetrate better. You get slightly lower theoretical max speeds, but the connection is more reliable, and people generally agree that's what's important.
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