Hey I've just been reading posts on the forums and I had to ask, I since the play now supports recovery on locked bootloaders does that make custom roms possible? Specifically will any version of CM7 or 9 work on my bootloader LOCKED R800a (previously carrier locked to Telstra australia) sorry im completely over stock but don't have the money for a bootloader unlock right now
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nogggin1 said:
Hey I've just been reading posts on the forums and I had to ask, I since the play now supports recovery on locked bootloaders does that make custom roms possible? Specifically will any version of CM7 or 9 work on my bootloader LOCKED R800a (previously carrier locked to Telstra australia) sorry im completely over stock but don't have the money for a bootloader unlock right now
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Nope, never will either. Have to be able to flash a custom kernel which isn't possible without unlocking the bl. There's a thread around here talking about doing some backdoor crap to try and get around the bl, but it'll never happen due to lack of support for the xperia line in general. I'd say save that money up, it's so worth it
agraceful said:
Nope, never will either. Have to be able to flash a custom kernel which isn't possible without unlocking the bl. There's a thread around here talking about doing some backdoor crap to try and get around the bl, but it'll never happen due to lack of support for the xperia line in general. I'd say save that money up, it's so worth it
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Hmm okay, I thought I read in another thread that there were some roms that didn't require a custom kernel...
A couple of ROMs don't require a custom kernel like: Gin2ics, NXT and others.
However all Cyanogenmod ROMs require custom kernels.
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Is it possible for me to Overclock my xperia play with a locked bootloader? It is rooted but the bootloader is locked.
Thank you. It is a simlocked R800A running UK generic android 2.3.4.
Overclocking requires a custom kernel, which in turn requires an unlocked bootloader.
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Overclocking requires a custom kernel, which in turn requires an unlocked bootloader.
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But when I had a Motorola Milestone we had locked bootloaders and we still got overclock.
I was wondering the same thing today after rooting with zergrush. IIRC on my HTC Dream (G1) I could over clock freely after gaining root access.
Is there anything us 'locked bootloaders' can do for overclocking?
The problem with comparing those phones to the PLAY is, those other phones have the recovery separate from the kernel. Since you can't flash the kernel through recovery because it IS the kernel, you have to go a different route and flash the kernel through the bootloader.
Long story short, you can't flash a custom kernel if the kernel is already running
It is doable to OC with a locked bootloader, you'll need some dev to make the OC mudules and then you can move them to the right place on your phone with rootexplorer and enable them with terminal emulater/adb shell. I've made a request thread a long time back cuz i'd rather stay out of unlocking, well wich i ended up doing anyway for other reasons.
I did it this way to start with on my HTC Dsire HD before i got S-off and custom recovery installed.
Thread i started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077471
Regards Dousan...
Modules can be done but its too much work and can be unstable... if there was no unlock option then it was fine... but since it's possible to unlock bootloader better flash custom kernel...
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DooMLoRD said:
Modules can be done but its too much work and can be unstable... if there was no unlock option then it was fine... but since it's possible to unlock bootloader better flash custom kernel...
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Unlocking the bootloader for the R800x can be a pain since it requires that you pay for it to be done. Sony Ericsson & VZW really piss me off that the ability to do so was taken away.
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Unlocking the bootloader for the R800x can be a pain since it requires that you pay for it to be done. Sony Ericsson & VZW really piss me off that the ability to do so was taken away.
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I think VZ is to take the full blame for that one. They are the ones who wants to mess with the phone to begin with? I don't understand the model you have in the states. Different setups for different carriers. Makes no sense to me. One standard like the rest of the world has pretty much and you wouldn't have any problem.
CrimsonSentinel13 said:
Unlocking the bootloader for the R800x can be a pain since it requires that you pay for it to be done. Sony Ericsson & VZW really piss me off that the ability to do so was taken away.
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We also have the same problem here with the r800a in Canada.
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Overclocking requires a custom kernel, which in turn requires an unlocked bootloader.
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Incorrect.
If a module was created it can be implanted into hw_config
Wasn't the point of Android to make phones that people could customize? These cell providers are taking away the true founding image of the Andriod: customization. It's utter bullsh*t in my book. Why does it matter what we do with the phone after we buy it? It's not like these companies are losing any money off of it (or are they...?)
So I have a carrier branded (rogers) Xperia play build 4.0.2.A.0.42, it is "unlock able" through sony, what is the best way? paid unpaid? test point the only way?
EDIT: Wrong info. Sorry about that.
Test point is the only way for a Rogers one.
It's only available paid. You can have someone like Alejandrissimo help you remotely for $24, or buy an Omnius unlock credit and use that program yourself. I used Omnius, personally. Mine is also the Rogers one.
You'll need to use the test point method and unlock the bootloader for cm9.
Better off with JokaWild and an ICS theme though IMO
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captain67 said:
Test point is the only way for a Rogers one.
It's only available paid. You can have someone like Alejandrissimo help you remotely for $24, or buy an Omnius unlock credit and use that program yourself. I used Omnius, personally. Mine is also the Rogers one.
You'll need to use the test point method and unlock the bootloader for cm9.
Better off with JokaWild and an ICS theme though IMO
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To clarify to flash any ROM the unlocked boot loader is needed correct?
jul644 said:
To clarify to flash any ROM the unlocked boot loader is needed correct?
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There are two gingerbread roms that are stock-based and can be installed just by having root. Darkforest and T.E.A.M. The reason is because they don't modify any files that conflict with the bootloader.
Some others might work, but you'd have to experiment and it's very unlikely.
All others need an unlocked bootloader. Cyanogen, ICS beta, ICX etc. all need it.
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There are two gingerbread roms that are stock-based and can be installed just by having root. Darkforest and T.E.A.M. The reason is because they don't modify any files that conflict with the bootloader.
Some others might work, but you'd have to experiment and it's very unlikely.
All others need an unlocked bootloader. Cyanogen, ICS beta, ICX etc. all need it.
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Locked ICS roms will start showing up once the official R800i ftf comes out as well.
Moved to Q&A Section, please post questions there. Hope you got the answers you needed!
Could it be possible?
No.
Could you explain me why? -.-
arturodelac said:
Could you explain me why? -.-
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Because ICS requires an ICS kernel, which can only be flashed by using fastboot on an unlocked bootloader.
Flashing ICS on a locked bootloader will only reward you with a brick.
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Could you explain me why? -.-
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Cause you need a Kernel that is made for ICS, and as long as your bootloader are locked you are going to be without ICS, simple as that.
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Could you explain me why? -.-
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Because ICS requires a different kernel, which requires you to unlock your bootloader to flash.
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I have heard that droid2global has an ics rom, and it's bootloader remains locked. It's got a bootstrap, but I didn't think that allowed a custom kernel.
Seriously though, just get your bootloader unlocked.
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I fear for my warranty, and my old x8 could run a half assed ics with a locked bootloader, wished more developers cared for locked bootloaders
why would you want a half assed ics, and why would devs want to make a half assed ics for you.., we haven't got a working kexec yet, and that would likely be your only real option, the rest involve messy workarounds to try and patch together a working rom from gb kernal, and its not worth the devs doing so.
im sure those of us that do have unlocked bootloaders would rather the devs work on stuff to move forward the xplay community as a whole, than spend months of time trying to make a gb kernal work with ics because you want to keep your warranty....
Hey I've asked a similar question in the past although didn't ask it properly and I HAVE searched many a time so I thought I'd ask and a good answer would be extremely appreciated so here goes:
I bought my Play (R800a) the day before Ice Cream Sandwich was cancelled for the device *Sadface* and then I soon after discovered that without paying extra for a Test Point unlock I was stuck with a pesky locked bootloader. Now, I thought this was the end for me but then I discovered something amazing! I can still install CWM and flash firmware via Flashtool, So did this mean custom roms on a locked Bootloader?! Yes, yes it did! Now that wasn't the end of my hassles, I also discovered that flashing kernels was impossible with a locked bootloader but what did that matter to me? I just figured I'd ignore Kernels all together, I'm fine with that!
>So what that made me wonder was are there any versions of CM7 or (preferably) CM9 that do not require a custom Kernel? And if so what firmware should my phone be on for it? I am currently on .42 but If it means a custom rom I'm happy to change!
>Next, if there are no safe versions of CM7 or 9 for a locked Bootloader, what other amazing roms are out there that I can use?
>If I were to stay on the stock rom should I update to something else from .42 or stick with it?
ps. Please do not go and say I should just buy a Test Point unlock, I have absolutely no money, I'm 17 with no Job and my parents don't have money either (I just lent mum my money the other day to buy milk).
pps. Will updating the firmware via flashtool wipe my phones memory? If so is titanium backup the best backup tool? (I am rooted)
I am Carrier unlocked (Previously locked to Telstra Australia)
Unfortunately most of the GOOD roms use different kernels...especially the CM7 and 9....so you would more than likely have to pay to unlock your phone. Still reading you post, just though I'd put what I've read from the forums here.
Searching around the dev section is normally your best bet to find roms that run through locked bootloader. Make sure you do a nandroid backup before you restore using the rom you choose. Using Titanium Backup is good for backing up games, save data and the data for those games. In your case you should look for GSM locked bootloader roms in the Dev section.
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brsingr said:
Unfortunately most of the GOOD roms use different kernels...especially the CM7 and 9....so you would more than likely have to pay to unlock your phone. Still reading you post, just though I'd put what I've read from the forums here.
Searching around the dev section is normally your best bet to find roms that run through locked bootloader. Make sure you do a nandroid backup before you restore using the rom you choose. Using Titanium Backup is good for backing up games, save data and the data for those games. In your case you should look for GSM locked bootloader roms in the Dev section.
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Okay thanks mate I'll have a look around!
Hi everyone.
Im sorry if this is basics but i have moved over from sammie and can see that the G4 is a bit more complicated in regards to rooting etc.
I have an optus branded LG-H815T in Australia. My confusion surronds this locked bootloader. What exactly does this stop me doing.
I am looking to root and flash custom roms but it appears not possible.
My question is how does the bootloader effect getting custom recovery etc. Been spoiled by the samsung devs and have never really had to look into this
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AUSTAB2012 said:
Hi everyone.
Im sorry if this is basics but i have moved over from sammie and can see that the G4 is a bit more complicated in regards to rooting etc.
I have an optus branded LG-H815T in Australia. My confusion surronds this locked bootloader. What exactly does this stop me doing.
I am looking to root and flash custom roms but it appears not possible.
My question is how does the bootloader effect getting custom recovery etc. Been spoiled by the samsung devs and have never really had to look into this
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Its possible to have custom recoveries with lock bootloader, i've seen it in another devices but for lg..i know nothing..maybe we can look to previous lg's devices (G2/G3)..Its more complicated with lock bootloader as everything must go via adb..but now there's flash fire app that works like those custom recoveries..maybe dev can extend more features to it..
One thing for sure, we can't use custom roms because usually they are using customs kernel not stock
faizalotai said:
Its possible to have custom recoveries with lock bootloader, i've seen it in another devices but for lg..i know nothing..maybe we can look to previous lg's devices (G2/G3)..Its more complicated with lock bootloader as everything must go via adb..but now there's flash fire app that works like those custom recoveries..maybe dev can extend more features to it..
One thing for sure, we can't use custom roms because usually they are using customs kernel not stock
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Yeah its all a little confusing first of all. Seems a lot more advance with all the commands etc for root. If only LG would unlock bootloaders this phone is perfect for modding as sammie has ruined their phones
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One thing for sure, we can't use custom roms because usually they are using customs kernel not stock
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Can't use them yet but G3 got a workaround for this in Oct last year, so i expect one around then or earlier for the G4.
Only then can the roms devs begin.
Bootloader unlock will make your phone like a nexus device. You unlock your bootloader to be able to use it to flash a custom recovery and from that, flash a custom ROM. Now CURRENTLY the bootloader isn't unlockable for most variants (only openmartket EUR and T-Mobile), so we can't flash custom ROMs that easily. The guys that released root for our G4 are working on a way around unlocking the bootloader (or a way to unlock it without LG's website), but they won't release it until time has passed and OTA update cycles have slowed down for the device to avoid LG blocking their methods and exploits.
That's pretty much the situation we're in right now.