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Market filters:
When a user searches or browses in Android Market, the results are filtered, and some applications might not be visible. For example, if an application requires a trackball (as specified in the manifest file), then Android Market will not show the app on any device that does not have a trackball.
The manifest file and the device's hardware and features are only part of how applications are filtered — filtering also depends on the country and carrier, the presence or absence of a SIM card, and other factors.
Changes to the Android Market filters are independent of changes to the Android platform itself. This document will be updated periodically to reflect any changes that occur.
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Does anyone have any idea what the market filters are checking against?
That's not really a good reason to do anything, let alone not using 2.2
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That's not really a good reason to do anything, let alone not using 2.2
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Not being able to get apps? Did you read the link? Doubtful. Uh sure. Have fun with vanilla 2.2 and 0.0 apps.
I'm sorry, did you read your own link? If you had scrolled down, it shows several examples of what can be filtered. The filters are implemented by the application developer themselves, and if they don't, they still show up in the market.
Besides, filtering by the application has been in Android since 2.0. Any application that deems a device incapable of running it (for example, a lack of a light sensor) can stop itself from running.
some kind of filter (the ones I've heard of so far are incompatible screen resolution, unverified builds, and protected apps) is already being applied to 2.1 in the AOSP build. I couldnt see Yelp, the Android Community and TMZ apps for whatever reason
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Not being able to get apps? Did you read the link? Doubtful. Uh sure. Have fun with vanilla 2.2 and 0.0 apps.
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Oh yeah, how suspicious. French people couldn't possibly prefer apps in French and people with that new Dell pad thing probably still want SMS and contact apps.
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so you are saying not upgrade to 2.2 because marketplace will filter apps for our phone, but stick with 2.1 because it doesn't?
well genius, why don't you go and install http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.yelp.android on your phone and let us know how that 'no filtering' works out for you.
When I was running my Vougue we ran into this problem as well, its not a big deal at all. from what I remember it was checking about the build.prob and screen size that is setup in your startup. what I used to do was set my phone to my the specs for the G1, then install the apps after adjusting the density to fit everything on screen and then reboot using factory startup. it worked pretty well for most of the apps since many only blocked off whatever border the developer had.
heres the problem though but with the pace we are going it wont come up for a while, once we decide we have a rom stable enough to flash we lost the abilty to change the settings since WM is copletely gone and no haret was used. I switched over to the Touch Pro and we had the exact same problem which was solved in the EXACT way but we were not flashed still(TP2 still has a LOOOONG way to go sad to say), kept the touch pro 2 for only a few weeks before they replaced my Sprint Line TP with a Touch pro 2 due to all the TP1 problems and i'm still saddened by the slow progress. I am a developer myself and even an avid budsmoker and was still able to help out. now Refer has done a great job but from my understanding he is just doing most changes to the Android Filesystem, theirs a couple other guys working on the kernels which would be were all the hardware problems are going to be fixed from. no matter what build we use something in the kernel is either not right, or we dont have the driver in place for Android itself and since we have few Hardware level developers working on these things it seems to be low progress.
Currently I'm an HD2 user. I like the fact that Android has started to port onto the HD2. Still I know it's a long ways from being done or close to done and so far the only one I can think of being anywhere near done is the TP and TP2. Both have been out long enough to at least have the Android port worked on for a longer time. While I do read that it's good a lot of Android phone users suggest that the porting comes no where near close to how well the real Android phones work. Is this true? As far as apps and functionality and comparability goes how close is the Android port to the real thing? Would some of you rather have a real Android phone instead of this?
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Currently I'm an HD2 user. I like the fact that Android has started to port onto the HD2. Still I know it's a long ways from being done or close to done and so far the only one I can think of being anywhere near done is the TP and TP2. Both have been out long enough to at least have the Android port worked on for a longer time. While I do read that it's good a lot of Android phone users suggest that the porting comes no where near close to how well the real Android phones work. Is this true? As far as apps and functionality and comparability goes how close is the Android port to the real thing? Would some of you rather have a real Android phone instead of this?
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The closest to a native Android device would be the vogue. They pretty much have functionality everywhere and even flash to nand. In comparison we aren't too far behind as the things we are currently lacking is the camera.
Obviously there are bugs here and there but its still usable. Older builds are more stable and we've just recently jumped onto 2.2 Froyo so it will take some time to fix the bugs. We've actually accomplished something great and actually surpass a native android phone in benchmark scores even though our devices aren't hugely optimized. I've seen the HD2 video booting XDANDROID; i've even posted it in our 2.1 thread and from what i see its was running pretty quick during the SetupWizard. cough* cough* ...snapdragon ;p
Lastly yes i would never go back to WM or even get an iphone. I've bought a nexus one and have never looked back. From what i see once you go Android you don't go back and at Google IO they certainly showed us why.
I would love to start adding support for HD2 for XDANDROID. But i'm currently busy with my new role as Moderator
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The closest to a native Android device would be the vogue. They pretty much have functionality everywhere and even flash to nand. In comparison we aren't too far behind as the things we are currently lacking is the camera.
Obviously there are bugs here and there but its still usable. Older builds are more stable and we've just recently jumped onto 2.2 Froyo so it will take some time to fix the bugs. We've actually accomplished something great and actually surpass a native android phone in benchmark scores even though our devices aren't hugely optimized. I've seen the HD2 video booting XDANDROID; i've even posted it in our 2.1 thread and from what i see its was running pretty quick during the SetupWizard. cough* cough* ...snapdragon ;p
Lastly yes i would never go back to WM or even get an iphone. I've bought a nexus one and have never looked back. From what i see once you go Android you don't go back and at Google IO they certainly showed us why.
I would love to start adding support for HD2 for XDANDROID. But i'm currently busy with my new role as Moderator
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buts thats interesting. You said you got a Nexus One is that because you just felt like the android porting for this phone wasn't good enough?
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buts thats interesting. You said you got a Nexus One is that because you just felt like the android porting for this phone wasn't good enough?
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I got a nexus one because its cool and has great specs and also because of the android ports. You cant stay on the same phone forever and it was time for me to upgrade and at the time TP2 or topaz didn't interest me. So i decided to wait for N1
For me it is very close to replacing WM on my raph110. Really, battery life issue is holding me back. I can turn off sync and run as "just a phone" for a long time, but as soon as I start to use it as a smartphone, I better make sure I am near a power supply.
As a phone its better than winmo IMO, making and receiving calls and SMS is downright clunky in WM compared to these android builds.
All it would take for me to switch is the ability to run with sync on, and use some moderate smartphone-y features here and there for an entire day and I am set. At the moment I use android when I am plugged in, then reboot into WM when I know I am going to be away from power for a length of time.
Compared to other android phones I have played with, the raph seems downright speedy. Most time when I have played with android phones they seem laggy and slow, where my phone with these android builds seems much more responsive and mostly lag free. I have considered picking up an Aria if I come across a cheap one but only because of the battery thing and no other reason.
To give you more info I have a Fuze (raph110) and run NRG's WM 6.5.5 / SenseUI 2.5 ROMs.
The best part of this project is you run WinMo in tandem - Android is simply running off of the SD card, so there's virtually nothing that would break your phone or SD card permanently. All of the outright hardware failures I've seen in any forum related to this project has been a simple hardware failure - nothing with Android broke the device basically.
So try it out! You've got nothing to lose. Then you'll have a much better idea of how 'functional' it is
Well I have tried it on the HD2, but nothing is exactly functional to say the least. I mean, it runs, but not much else to say about it. I wonder when they port and finish being able to get the antennae working, gps, camera, wifi, bt, etc. what all that will mean as far as how functional it will be. Will programs be able to be installed and USE all the functional devices? Games supposedly need OpenGl to work and I bet that is another can of worms. I'm all for it working and everything, but I wonder if when the project ends will it be that much better or am I better off getting a Nexus One in the end.
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Well I have tried it on the HD2, but nothing is exactly functional to say the least. I mean, it runs, but not much else to say about it. I wonder when they port and finish being able to get the antennae working, gps, camera, wifi, bt, etc. what all that will mean as far as how functional it will be. Will programs be able to be installed and USE all the functional devices? Games supposedly need OpenGl to work and I bet that is another can of worms. I'm all for it working and everything, but I wonder if when the project ends will it be that much better or am I better off getting a Nexus One in the end.
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Well I don't know if it'll *ever* be truly perfect compared to native devices... but looking at a) what we have working on our TP's and b) what the vogue guys have working on their devices....
Basically it looks like it'll be darned close to having an actual Android device... which is amazing, to say in the least. I'm not sure how long the vogue's battery lasts, but other than that and camera, our devices are fairly complete on the hardware front. Vogue's even have a functional camera!
3d is also working, so OpenGL will not be a problem It's just a matter of getting the 3d drivers for the GPU!
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Well I don't know if it'll *ever* be truly perfect compared to native devices... but looking at a) what we have working on our TP's and b) what the vogue guys have working on their devices....
Basically it looks like it'll be darned close to having an actual Android device... which is amazing, to say in the least. I'm not sure how long the vogue's battery lasts, but other than that and camera, our devices are fairly complete on the hardware front. Vogue's even have a functional camera!
3d is also working, so OpenGL will not be a problem It's just a matter of getting the 3d drivers for the GPU!
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So what do you think it's worth holding onto the device and not just get an Android device just yet? How long would you all feel it'll be till Android is as usable on the HD2 as it is on the Vogue or any multi-boot device?
Also, still what about the programs? Like if you have a program like Shopsavvy and you have the camera working will it and should it work on the device like the Vogue? Or is it a no go because it's not a legit supported device?
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So what do you think it's worth holding onto the device and not just get an Android device just yet? How long would you all feel it'll be till Android is as usable on the HD2 as it is on the Vogue or any multi-boot device?
Also, still what about the programs? Like if you have a program like Shopsavvy and you have the camera working will it and should it work on the device like the Vogue? Or is it a no go because it's not a legit supported device?
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In the end its entirely up to you. The HD2 has started on its journey to port linux and there no timeline on when it will be done. Even our linux kernel is not complete but devs are working on it and it grows and grows.
So if you have the dough and time go and try out a android device and see what you think. If you like go buy it otherwise be patient like most other members and you'll see a functional port guarenteed.
Apps will work if you have the function available in most cases.
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In the end its entirely up to you. The HD2 has started on its journey to port linux and there no timeline on when it will be done. Even our linux kernel is not complete but devs are working on it and it grows and grows.
So if you have the dough and time go and try out a android device and see what you think. If you like go buy it otherwise be patient like most other members and you'll see a functional port guarenteed.
Apps will work if you have the function available in most cases.
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Exactly. I used XDAndroid on my Fuze to decide that Android was in fact for me, and I bought a Motorola Milestone. We have a mostly working system here, the battery life sucks and theres no camera (and there was no bluetooth when I upgraded, nor was there 3D obviously, and Cellular had problems staying connected) but I was able to get a feel for the Android system, the market, what was out there and decided to make a go of it. I've been quite happy. I keep coming back to see Android on my Fuze because I have a feeling that it'll make a good spare device, or a giveaway device, or whatever. Even if it is just an MP3 player with a prepaid SIM in it that I can leave under the seat of my car - I'll be getting more mileage on this device running Android than I would on Windows Mobile.
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....I'll be getting more mileage on this device running Android than I would on Windows Mobile.....
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Agreed, Im just disolved now with WM, had a look at XDAndroid and am impressed big time.
Once this is an every-day OS to run (in terms of battery life and stability) I will have the device I wanted to start with....forward facing cameras for video calling (when its available), hardware keyboard and a nice form factor.
XDAndroid runs seemigly far nicer than the native OS the phone was designed for!!! Says it all!!
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Like if you have a program like Shopsavvy and you have the camera working will it and should it work on the device like the Vogue? Or is it a no go because it's not a legit supported device?
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Shopsavvy will not work properly on the Vogue because the camera on the Vogue has a fixed focus, and the barcode recognition algorithm in Barcode Scanner (ZXing) and Shopsavvy is not advanced enough to recognize blurred barcodes like RedLaser can on the iPhone 2G/3G. Once the camera works on the RAPH, Shopsavvy should do well on it since as far as I know the camera has autofocus.
Camera apps in general are hit and miss because Android has a rather poor camera API which exposes a lot of the underlying camera implementation (color space, framerate, encoding) to the app trying to use the camera - this is why whenever a new official Android phone comes out there are generally new versions of camera apps on the market (the Samsung Moment was the worst culprit of this - almost no camera applications worked out-of-the-box on it).
But as a rule of thumb - yes - the phone is running Android and the fine people working on development try to implement everything to spec, so for all intents it appears to an application the same as any "official" phone does. As a matter of fact, the Android porting community is doing *exactly* what a phone manufacturer does internally when releasing a new Android phone - just more publicly and with less documentation and more reverse-engineering.
I love xdandroid,i don't use camera so only the market bug in the latest froyo bulid is a bad thing for me,but i think that babijoee and all the xdandroid team can fix it.
the only thing that i wish is a flashable android so no more wm!
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I love xdandroid,i don't use camera so only the market bug in the latest froyo bulid is a bad thing for me,but i think that babijoee and all the xdandroid team can fix it.
the only thing that i wish is a flashable android so no more wm!
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What Market bug? Did you try deleting your data.img?
i think all the new problems may be due to old data.img
Since the framework and structure of the updates are always updated/changing we do require people to have a new data.img
If problems persist after making a new data.img then we will have to look into it
The camera and the extremely innaccurate battery meter are dealbreakers for me I really hope you'll manage to fix it soon, btw why not make a thread called "What we're working on", would be pretty interesting
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What Market bug? Did you try deleting your data.img?
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Yeah i deleted it,2 times.
the problem is when i try to log in with a google account or when i try to create one,i put username and password,i press next and after 5 minutes it says impossible to connect to google's server
i connect through wi-fi and connection works...maybe i should try to log in when no sim inserted,because doing a fresh install of android without sim solved this problem when i was using donut 1.6
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Yeah i deleted it,2 times.
the problem is when i try to log in with a google account or when i try to create one,i put username and password,i press next and after 5 minutes it says impossible to connect to google's server
i connect through wi-fi and connection works...maybe i should try to log in when no sim inserted,because doing a fresh install of android without sim solved this problem when i was using donut 1.6
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Hrm. I've never had a problem "signing into" the Market... I guess I didn't even realize it had to sign in, but it does make sense.
Try the trick w/o the SIM card. I don't have a SIM, and I've never been able to reproduce the error.
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The camera and the extremely innaccurate battery meter are dealbreakers for me I really hope you'll manage to fix it soon, btw why not make a thread called "What we're working on", would be pretty interesting
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"Whatever we feel like today" doesn't seem very interesting.
Trying many call recording apps to evaluate if there are anything perfectly working on call recording, particularly incoming voice. as a result, as you may see in the market's comments and some threads on other device at XDA, there seems a bug in Android.
FWIW I can see some efforts on other devices like SGS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863074, to get this feature working on their device. I'm just wondering if anyone is working on it for arc.
does anyone know about it or is this feature simply working for you?
I don't want to take a way of recording from the mic to get it working, even if it's the only way to go so far.
Hello, like i know, the reason why no one call recorder not record calls from line is the drivers. First of all we shoud wait for the custom firmware, then somebody should write drivers for our phones and integrate them to the firmware, and only after we can record calls from line. All this was made for HTC Desire, Desire HD, and others including SGS
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The reason why none of the recording software work because there is no api in the sdk for that... So you cannot make a software to record inline voice...!!!
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Maybe, but how without api, software "call recording" work perfectly on HTC and Samsung android devices?
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probably they extend an API unofficially since they update Phone apps as well.
This issue is somewhat sensitive since it's relevant to the legal matter, it may be unlikely to get it fixed from google perhaps. I'd like to port their efforts to arc if I can get some kind of information what they have done on their devices.
probably they extend an API unofficially since they update Phone apps as well.
This issue is somewhat sensitive since it's relevant to the legal matter, it may be unlikely to get it fixed from google perhaps. I'd like to port their efforts to arc if I can get some kind of information what they have done on their devices.
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probably they extend an API unofficially since they update Phone apps as well.
This issue is somewhat sensitive since it's relevant to the legal matter, it may be unlikely to get it fixed from google perhaps. I'd like to port their efforts to arc if I can get some kind of information what they have done on their devices.
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Yes because of legal issues, google is releasing such api...
Will have to work on our own to get an api...
After that coding one call recorder software is quite easy...!!!
I wonder what legal issue is that because android is world wide used and I don't think there's any legal issue here in my country to record the line in of my own call/received call.
So the legal issue should meant to be force to use only in USA and some other country who have those issue. While the api that world wide used should have this function so those with out this "legal issue" in there country can use, isn't it ?
Hi there,
Can you please try the app Total Recall Android by Killer Mobile Software for recording calls?
They claim it records calls on Xperia Arc without any modifications or root needed.
I would like to buy this phone to replace a SGS that can record only with 2.2.1 FW...but I would like to know if this realy records bouth sides of the conversation without speaker phone enabled on the actual firmware versions.
Thank you in advance!
Greetings All!
I tried searching the forums for this, but the closest answer I could find was (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916771) - and I'm still confused.
I have a rooted Note II running a stable official Cyanogenmod 10.1.3 with Android 4.2.2.
My question is in regards to the stock camera for the Note II. I really liked that application versus the camera app by Cyanogenmod. I was wondering if there was anyway to overwrite the new camera app for the stock one.
Here's what I've tried so far:
1. I have access to another Note II (a friend of mine's) and I tried backing up the Gallery.apk (and the SamsungCamera.apk (or something like that)) and sending it over to be installed on my phone. I turned off verify apps, turned on Unkown sources, froze Cyanogenmod's gallery app, and then tried installing the gallery.apk, but to no avail. I also tried installing SamsungCamera.apk. I also tried making a backup of cyan's gallery app, uninstalling it, then installing the apks. The error I always get is "Application not Installed."
I have the apks that I'm trying to install uploaded to my Dropbox here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/uqub4hgp80yv8i1/lZEpewNM7O
I haven't yet tried to use the adb command to install the app. Could this make a difference?
Thanks so much in advance. If this question has already been posted, I'm sorry, but would appreciate a link pointing me in the right direction.
Thanks Again!
By stock camera you mean stock camera app provided by samsung's touchwiz? If yes, from what I know it's not yet possible or not possible. As CyanogenMod and Samsung's stock ROM has different frameworks.
It might be possible if someone can port it.
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I see. OK, thanks so much for the response/help!
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Sorry, but does this also go for the messaging app (the framework issue)?
Thanks!
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I have a rooted Note II running a stable official Cyanogenmod 10.1.3 with Android 4.2.2.
My question is in regards to the stock camera for the Note II. I really liked that application versus the camera app by Cyanogenmod. I was wondering if there was anyway to overwrite the new camera app for the stock one.
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I've been running Cyanogenmod on varied devices for maybe 3 years now. Wife had it on her original HTC EVO, I've put it on multiple co-worker phones, and I have two HP Touchpads with it for around 2 years. I love it.
However, Cyanogen doesn't have the awesome camera that the native Samsung app has. I have tested over 5 top rated Camera apps from Google Play (Pro HD, Camera MX, Cymera, etc) and none touch the ease, usability, features and quality of the native Samsung app. The "Best Face" & "HDR" are freaking awesome. I haven't seen any app that can touch those two, especially the HDR quality. The 'low light' feature is awesome too, but I didn't test to see if other apps offer the same.
l'd love to donate some change if someone could work out a proper port to Galaxy devices. I can't really goto Cyanogenmod & use the associated bland camera app. With a new baby @ home, that best face is a godsend. The HDR has really popped bunches of our pictures too.
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I've been running Cyanogenmod on varied devices for maybe 3 years now. Wife had it on her original HTC EVO, I've put it on multiple co-worker phones, and I have two HP Touchpads with it for around 2 years. I love it.
However, Cyanogen doesn't have the awesome camera that the native Samsung app has. I have tested over 5 top rated Camera apps from Google Play (Pro HD, Camera MX, Cymera, etc) and none touch the ease, usability, features and quality of the native Samsung app. The "Best Face" & "HDR" are freaking awesome. I haven't seen any app that can touch those two, especially the HDR quality. The 'low light' feature is awesome too, but I didn't test to see if other apps offer the same.
l'd love to donate some change if someone could work out a proper port to Galaxy devices. I can't really goto Cyanogenmod & use the associated bland camera app. With a new baby @ home, that best face is a godsend. The HDR has really popped bunches of our pictures too.
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Agreed.
I installed Beanstock (4.3) and love it except...I'm missing the features of the stock camera app, most specifically HDR and low light. Would love to have these features back and would donate as well if someone could help port it.
i also want stock samsung camera i have tested many camera apps but none of them can match samsung camera.
hope someone can help us or guide us
I would also second this! Low light and hdr are by far the best. I NEED an alternative to the stock cyanogenmod but I have fallen short on every search. I would galdly contribute to a fund for a solid camera app. Does anyone running CM have any suggestions for a camera app.
if i wanted to port the touchwiz framework so the samsung camera app will function properly, how would I go about doing this? is there a ton of different files that would need handpicked or is there a folder or some type of label that would mean it goes with the touchwiz framework? or would this take a considerable amount of work i.e. more than one afternoon...
the camera on cyanogenmod was the reason I went back to stock because the samsung camera just takes amazing pictures. the CM camera is a little more grainy and does not focus as well.
hello - "bumping"
any solution found yet?
I have an old mediatek based redme note4, so very much due an upgrade. The cameras on this look pretty decent and good enough for my youtube vid work...
But I have one issue i want to address...
On my old Note4 using MiUi ive noticed that A LOT of system programs dial home to aliexpress servers... I assume to Xiaomi controlled servers... Ive noticed this quite regularly when doing certain tasks like using Chrome or email, or installing apps...
Now I want to get this phone, I kinda need to know that there will be some roms going around that will strip all this crap out. Annoyingly though I like MiUI as an interface. I just dont like this phone dialing home as much as it is.
So got the few questions.
As its snapdragon, i realise in all likely hood there will be custom roms. What will my likely options be? Lineage? Will there likely be a MiUi with the nastiness stripped?
And I also, when I root the phone to do all this is there anyway to mask the root? I use banking apps that wont run if the phones been rooted...
Anyway I realise its early day. Just thought I should ask. I might be getting the phone around december or january...
We can expect that there would be xiaomi eu rom support which is debloated miui with additional languages. (Also with their shi**y roboto font)
Custom roms may not be your favor cuz they usually give you same boring aosp experience whatever you install.
Magisk has a "hide" feature that allows to have root and still use Bank apps.
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Magisk has a "hide" feature that allows to have root and still use Bank apps.
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This typically doesn't work anymore, or it works with very high efforts for a short period.
Mine is arriving today and I will be unlocking the bootloader ASAP.
Xiaomi usually let you unlock the bootloader although you have to wait and the custom ROM scene for past Xiaomi devices has been good (I've had both a Mi 5 and Mi 9 and can testify to this).
So long as someone builds for this device, you'll probably end up with a fair selection of ROMs to choose from including customised / debloated versions of MIUI which aren't too bad either