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[Q] Problems with backups, how to restore missing apps

Dear All
Having a rooted Desire with Froyo and Apps2SD+, i needed to migrate to a bigger 16 GB card. In that (failed) effort I decided to remove all apps and then restore them.
I backed them up via MybAckup Pro and Titanium Backup. Then, after reboot, no backups were detected by TB. I even wrote to the support but no answer. I had to revert to MyBackup Pro which apparently had a mind of its own regarding which apps to restore. Now Google Maps is missing on my phone and neither will it install. Also, com.gapps are closing on me every minute.
I have decided to do a factory reset but it'd be nice if a few questions are answered first:
1) I understand that NANDROID is the best way to back up; however, it doesn't provide me a way to restore apps one by one or in batches. Any solutions?
2) When I do a factory reset, will I end up with a clean phone with root and my current custom ROM, or the phone as it came from Orange?
3) Is there a way to install Google Maps and to remove the gapps errors without factory reset?
4) If I restore from NANDROID after factory reset, will all the errors/instability come back as well?
Thanks

1) Nandroid does an image of your custom phone, like for example Norton Ghost would do. Its like saving the setup/state of the phone at the time you do the backup.
2) A factory reset deletes all user data. You end with your current ROM as it was a clean install, it will not change the ROM you're using. If you're using a custom ROM you will still be with that custom ROM.
3) Can't Google Maps be downloaded from Market? Also you can try to extract the .apk from a ROM and copy it to yours via adb for example. As for the errors I dont really know if they're because data corruption and a reset will fix them or its the apk that isnt working as intended.
4) As I said earlier, doing a Nandroid is doing an image of the current state of the phone. If you do a Nandroid of a phone that has errors and you restore it, the errors wont disapear.
If you want to have a backup of the list of apps you already have you can use AppBrain. Its a little app that syncs your list of apps from the phone into a google account so when you do a full wipe you have only to install that app again and sync with the saved google list of apps. It wont save the data of the aplications but it will save the list of the ones you've installed.

Azureus: That is a most helpful reply, I sincerely appreciate it.
Google maps is not appearing in the market. I tried to sideload it and it still doesn't install. Thanks for the GREAT AppBrain trick.
I would appreciate if you could answer:
1) Which is the best, most stable custom ROM to use with official Froyo+Sense, Apps2SD+ ? I have doubts about stability of current ROM.
2) Which app can enable me to back up apps and then restore them one by one, given that Titanium Backup is not working for me somehow?

1) I personally use OpenDesire and its a non Sense UI ROM, so I dont really know what Sense UI ROM is the best. I've tryed several Sense UI ROMs and two that gave me a good feeling where LeeDrOiD Mod and the official Sense ROM of OpenDesire Team.
2) I've tryed several apps for data backups and the one that I liked most was Titanium Backup... May I ask why isnt working for you? I've tested both the free and donate version and they seem to work pretty well...

Thanks. Will try Leedroid now.
As for titanium, or backs up everything all right but when I try to restore it shows nothing. Don't know why is that

Titanium Backup saves the backups by default in a folder as the same name as the app in your SD. Have you tried deleting all the folder and doing backups again to see if the restore works? You can also go to settings and change the default folder in which it saves the backup to see if its a problem with de folder/SD or its the app.

The big "how do you restore your apps and settings after flashing a ROM" thread?

The big "how do you restore your apps and settings after flashing a ROM" thread?
Hi all,
Just rooted my phone a couple of days ago and been playing around with some ROMS.
Now I've found one to my liking so I am installing configuring everything again but what if there's a new version of my ROM I want to install, I have to do everything all over again which is a bit silly in this modern time
As I see it
- you have apps installed from market
- you have manually installed apps (e.g. modded widgets, applications and stuff)
I currently use Astro to backup the apps, this works well but
- the market doesn't recognize the apps (to do with market cache I suppose)
workaround: you can use the atrackdog app to follow application updates
- it doesn't restore app settings
some of my apps have backup mechanisms of their own but not all
I've flashed a GB rom now and I've selected the google backup option, is this reliable? What does it exactly backup?
Any other tools available? I heard about titanium back but also read stories where it doesn't always work.
Anyhoew: what do you use? what works for you?
Would be great if we could consolidate everything here and figure out the best/easiest way.
Cheers
B

Titanium Backup - restores apps and data
Job done

EddyOS said:
Titanium Backup - restores apps and data
Job done
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Do the apps show up in the market again?
Cheers
B

Titanium backup - backups apps dta/settings fo apps. and basically everythig (settings,sms etc.).

berre said:
Do the apps show up in the market again?
Cheers
B
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Yes, they do.

ok great so how's the best way to use this?
I've downloaded the free version, and the busybox
I guess I have to use the filter for files of type "user" so I only see my apps?
which batch should I run then, backup all user data + system data?
*edit will this restore stuff like my launcher settings and design, email accounts in enhanced email and stuff like that too?
cheers
B

Don't know, just used it to backup my Angry Birds saves as the rest I do from scratch anyway

berre said:
ok great so how's the best way to use this?
I've downloaded the free version, and the busybox
I guess I have to use the filter for files of type "user" so I only see my apps?
which batch should I run then, backup all user data + system data?
*edit will this restore stuff like my launcher settings and design, email accounts in enhanced email and stuff like that too?
cheers
B
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Almost everything will be restored. Free version will prompt for each app
Swyped with my Starburst based Desire. Forgive any typos!

Be careful backing up system settings though as they often don't restore very well on different ROMs, i broke my first flash on Cyanogen by restoring bluetooth settings from a Sense ROM.

I use My backup Pro app for this
And I can backup and restore everything but the widgets

Open Titanium, click Backup/restore, hold down the menu key then go to batch, then backup all user apps. Don't back up system settings, as this will conflict with the new OS and cause instabilities. Android should auto backup Wi-Fi and calendars online for you, mine does, but it's Gingerbread 2.3.3 I'm not sure if this feature was around in the Froyo days.
Everything will be restored as it was, except widgets on the homescreen, you'll need to remove them and put them back on, all settings for them will save so you don't have to mess about customizing things.
You've probably worked it out by now, but just in case this is my 2 cents.

I'm using Titanium Backup for the Apps.
For the Messages I've got MyBackup and MIUI Backup but I prefer MyBackup because I've got different Roms.
But I never restore the System Settings.

I just don't factory reset, format, wipe or however you call it when I flash a rom, I lose the texts though.

Question about rom's... or to rom users

Hi, I've got a recently rooted HTC desire, and since rooting it I have been playing around with a couple of roms; I have tried both cyanogenmod and a desire hd rom. However with both I have had the same problem - having to start fresh completely, without any of my data. And then having to restore a backup.
So my question is firstly, am I doing something wrong? I have tried restoring my data before but all I ever get is a bootloop when I restart so I have to wipe it again.
And then, if you do have to start afresh, is it really worth it? And why.
Thanks for reading
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

HikerMan said:
Hi, I've got a recently rooted HTC desire, and since rooting it I have been playing around with a couple of roms; I have tried both cyanogenmod and a desire hd rom. However with both I have had the same problem - having to start fresh completely, without any of my data. And then having to restore a backup.
So my question is firstly, am I doing something wrong? I have tried restoring my data before but all I ever get is a bootloop when I restart so I have to wipe it again.
And then, if you do have to start afresh, is it really worth it? And why.
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I try to keep it simple.
You say you've tried restoring your data? With...Clockworkmod? Or what? If you restore only /data-partition with Clockworkmod (I'm not sure if it's even possible, never have tried it) you are bound to have problems.
Same goes with Titanium Backup. When you're switching ROM from say, a Sense rom to Cyanogenmod - don't ever restore all settings. The ROM's are too different and their settings aren't compatible with each other! I myself only restore WiFi Access point list (and installed apps) when switching ROMs.
So if I've understood you correctly, you're not doing anything wrong (unless you're restoring a nandroid after flashing...)
A correct procedure for switching roms (not for updating the same ROM unless stated explicitly!) is:
-Titanium Backup/Mybackup/whatever your apps (and as little settings as possible, it's mostly trial and error)
-Nandroid backup (so you can revert when there are problems)
-Wipe data / factory reset (wipes everything but FAT32-partition of SD-card)
-Flash the new rom
-Restore your apps with TB/something else and manually input your settings (accounts, etc shouldn't be backed up either...)
Something you could consider if you want to jump ROMs all the time, is to set up your installation the way you like it, then do a nandroid backup, install a new rom, then set it up again and backup it, then if you want to switch these 2 roms you can just restore the one you want...Of course replacing the nandroid backup if you've done a lot of changes
Now for your last question: Starting fresh is worth it. Otherwise you will most probably run to force closes and other problems that force you to do a factory reset anyway.

Thanks for the reply! Very helpful... so if I go into titanium backup and backup all apps, will that backup contacts and text messages etc. also? Or will I have to lose them?
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HikerMan said:
Thanks for the reply! Very helpful... so if I go into titanium backup and backup all apps, will that backup contacts and text messages etc. also? Or will I have to lose them?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Umm, I can't say about contacts, because I always sync them from my work Exchange & Gmail, and for text messages I recommend a free app called SMS Backup+ https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zegoggles.smssync&feature=search_result
The software backs up your SMS to your Gmail as messages, to a label called SMS , and they can be restored with a click to your new rom.
Also People app (in Sense) and Dialer (in AOSP roms) can export contacts to SD so you can easily import them back.

Backuping before Super Wipe

Heya.
I want to backup my contacts, my SMSs and App Data before doing a super wipe and flashing a new rom. I'd also like to backup my phone settings and apps too, but that probably kinda removes some of the beneficial effects of the wipe.
I've used Titanium Backup to do these things before, but I've been getting more and more FCs that no one else using the rom have reported so I'm thinking my wiping hasn't been fully effective.
What are the best ways to backup these things? I want the backup methods to be easy to do and restore but should leave othing bad behind so I wouldn't get extra FCs.
Best for contacts: Google (?)
Best for SMS: ?
Best for App Data: ?
Thanks alot!

Diffler said:
Heya.
I want to backup my contacts, my SMSs and App Data before doing a super wipe and flashing a new rom. I'd also like to backup my phone settings and apps too, but that probably kinda removes some of the beneficial effects of the wipe.
I've used Titanium Backup to do these things before, but I've been getting more and more FCs that no one else using the rom have reported so I'm thinking my wiping hasn't been fully effective.
What are the best ways to backup these things? I want the backup methods to be easy to do and restore but should leave othing bad behind so I wouldn't get extra FCs.
Best for contacts: Google (?)
Best for SMS: ?
Best for App Data: ?
Thanks alot!
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I use mybackup root and dont have any problems there is a free version on the market to try first.
Hit the thanks if it helped
Ricey

Before flashing a new rom be sure to do backups if you don't want to have problems. But also be aware that some programs may perform different on different ROMs because of kernel, sense ans no-sense roms etc. Some programs I backedup on some roms worked like charm and on some roms they FC, but after uninstall and instal from .apk program works again.
For program and DATA I use Titanium. You can restore only APP, Only DATA or both APP+DATA (which can restore high scores in games or program settings you set).
Titanium backup can also restore screens and system datas like Wi-Fi settings, accounts, SMS messages...... With that system data I found most problems because roms have a different versions of stock programs, and restoring data for facebook old version while backup is made on new version can be a problem. Happened to me. It is best if you restore system data to exact same rom or an updated version of last used rom (my experience).
Contacts you don't have to backup, at least i don't, because they will be pulled back to your phone when you set your google account.
I take screenshots of homescreen and app drawer, just in case that I don't forget something to install.
Full wipe you have to do when you completely moving from one rom to another. If you just upgrading you don't have to full wipe (only if it is necessary, but it will be written on home page of a rom developer). Every rom come with detailed instruction how to install. Some of them have application (.zip) to full wipe and format system. It there is such application you have to use it, if you want FC free DHD.
Hope it helps,

Thanks, looks good. Is it okay to move settings from older rom with older kernel and other things to a newer rom or can these cause force closes? How about app data, I'd like to keep my progress on few games for example, does backuping app data and moving them to a wiped fresh rom cause force closes?
Thanks!
EDIT: Didn't see the last post before this reply, it clears up stuff, thanks!

MIUI Titanium Backup doesn't restore data

Hello all,
I installed MIUI rom on my galaxy S I900which seems to be working fine.
Prior to this I had made a full titanium backup of system data and apps
Now after resetting rights to TB, I would like to restore my contacts and messages.
As I set the folder location and go to backup/restore and contacts item, TB has well detected my backup with the correct date and time at which I made it.
The problem is TB displays a message data restored successfully but my contacts list is empty.
Same problem with messages.
Please help i really need this data back.
Thanks in advance

Wrong forum, mate
In general though, it's inadvisable to restore system apps or data with TiBu, especially going between TouchWiz/Sense and AOSP, which MIUI is.
System apps are generally dependent on framework proprietary to TW, and that framework isn't present on AOSP.
For contacts, migrate them all to google contacts, so you never have to worry again.
For messages, try SMS backup and restore (free in market)
https://market.android.com/details?...mNvbS5yaXRlc2hzYWh1LlNNU0JhY2t1cFJlc3RvcmUiXQ..

similar problem
he y
i have to bring this up again,
i really have bad problem with titanium backup a miui rom and a motorola atrix 4G..
maybe someone here can help.
i have desire hd, using miui rom, :=) (great btw.)
and.. now i want to restore my apps to my new atrix 4G...
the problem. i can restore all apps, bot no data.
all apps stay without data
any ideas? I'm working on this for weeks now, nearly tried anything..
but I'm out of ideas..