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Well here is my idea. Could we possibly partition the FAT32 part of our phones into more then one partition.
Saying like we could have a few FAT32 based partition, A Primary, One for roms/patches, then etc.
That way when we format the primary, it doesn't delete the roms we could flash. So we didn't need to hook up the phone to the computer to copy roms back over.
I know Recover firmware would need to support this. But it's just a thought.
I'm not really an expert at this, but doing a full wipe and installing a new ROM doesn't wipe the contents of your SD Card. Are you saying partition the phone's internal storage? What's wrong with just storing the ROMs on your SD card?
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I'm not really an expert at this, but doing a full wipe and installing a new ROM doesn't wipe the contents of your SD Card. Are you saying partition the phone's internal storage? What's wrong with just storing the ROMs on your SD card?
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I meant like partition the SD Card into multiple partitions, So when you erase the SD:Ext and the FAT32, the ROM Partition doesn't go with it.
So example
SD:Ext - Partition 1
FAT32 - Partition 2 (Default SD Storage)
FAT32 - Partition 3 (ROM Storage, Backup Files)
So when you partition the SD Card though the Recovery it will only format Partition 1 and Partition 2, So if you left somewhere wtihout your computer and tweaking your phone, You could use partition 3 and access your ROM files and backups without going though loops for them.
What recovery are you using. I'm still not sure what you are talking about? I have no problems accessing my roms and kernels. You can do it plenty of ways and not do what you are talking about..
Use root explorer. Can transfer from download folder or if you made a certain folder on SD card for them you can copy paste them to the root directory on SD card if you use RA recovery. Clockwork you can go through every folder looking for the zip using clockwork unlike RA recovery which needs it to be in root of SD card. Your making it hard on yourself..
Why would you want to wipe fat32 and partion?
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I was getting ready to install a new rom and using CWR performed a wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache partition, wipe dalvik cache and a format system. I accidentally went into partition SD card and instead of hitting the back button hit the go. Now my phone only goes to first white screen "HTC Incredible" and stays stuck on that screen. I am able to boot into bootloader and recovery but cant recover any backups "no files found". Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Partitioning the SD card formats it, do you keep backups of your SD card on your computer hopefully?
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RMarkwald said:
Partitioning the SD card formats it, do you keep backups of your SD card on your computer hopefully?
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No backup of sd card
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No backup of sd card
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Can you hook up your SD card to a computer to verify that it's erased? You may need to reformat it to FAT32.
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Can you hook up your SD card to a computer to verify that it's erased? You may need to reformat it to FAT32.
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Don't have a micro sd card reader but will get one to see whats going on.
Im interested to know how partitioning the sdcard would make the phone get stuck at the htc splash? I have partitioned my sd several times before, it does format the sd but has never made it so i cant boot the phone.
EDIT: Alao you cant remove a ext partition by just formating in windows, as windows only sees the fat32 partition. To remove it go back to recovery and the partition sd. When you select it it should ask you 2 things, ext size and swap size.
Use the trackball to set both ext and swap to 0, leaving the whole sd to be formated fat32. After you do that see if you can boot.
I have done this too but good thing I had another SD card with a Rom on it or other wise I would have been screwed
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cmlusco said:
Im interested to know how partitioning the sdcard would make the phone get stuck at the htc splash? I have partitioned my sd several times before, it does format the sd but has never made it so i cant boot the phone.
EDIT: Alao you cant remove a ext partition by just formating in windows, as windows only sees the fat32 partition. To remove it go back to recovery and the partition sd. When you select it it should ask you 2 things, ext size and swap size.
Use the trackball to set both ext and swap to 0, leaving the whole sd to be formated fat32. After you do that see if you can boot.
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Not sure why its getting stuck on splash screen. It was my first time partitioning my sd card. I tried installing a zip from sd card and none found. I also tried to nandroid restore and no file found. I will try to remove the partition and see if that works.
cmlusco said:
Im interested to know how partitioning the sdcard would make the phone get stuck at the htc splash? I have partitioned my sd several times before, it does format the sd but has never made it so i cant boot the phone.
EDIT: Alao you cant remove a ext partition by just formating in windows, as windows only sees the fat32 partition. To remove it go back to recovery and the partition sd. When you select it it should ask you 2 things, ext size and swap size.
Use the trackball to set both ext and swap to 0, leaving the whole sd to be formated fat32. After you do that see if you can boot.
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I set the partition to 0 and still no boot
Sounds like your only option is to redo a wipe data/factory reset, format boot, and format system again, to be safe, then copy a new ROM zip to your SD card and flash that.
Your nandroids, and everything on your SD card, are gone.
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Im interested to know how partitioning the sdcard would make the phone get stuck at the htc splash? I have partitioned my sd several times before, it does format the sd but has never made it so i cant boot the phone.
EDIT: Alao you cant remove a ext partition by just formating in windows, as windows only sees the fat32 partition. To remove it go back to recovery and the partition sd. When you select it it should ask you 2 things, ext size and swap size.
Use the trackball to set both ext and swap to 0, leaving the whole sd to be formated fat32. After you do that see if you can boot.
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there is a clockwork folder on your sd card that is used if you updated clockworkmod recovery from rom manager. i mad the mistake of deleting it once. i had a backup on my pc before i did it. if you can get the phone to boot then just click the first option in rom manager and it will re build the file.
You don't need an SD card reader if you can get to CWM. Just go to mounts and mount Your SD card with your USB cable attached to your PC.
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Hi,
Sorry for being a noob but i came from android phones with sdcards and this is the first time i had one without a sdcard card slot..
the main question is, if i wipe the device, will the content in the /sdcard folder that i transferred via MTP (photos, music, Nandroid backups, etc) be wipe out as well?
I am asking because I swear the i did a wipe yesterday and ALL the content in the phone is gone, including the things i put in the /sdcard folder...
just need to clarify or maybe i am crazy? Please help..
There is no SDcard. Its all one big partition. Doing a factory reset wipes the entire device. Yes your pictures and videos, too.
lordlad said:
Hi,
Sorry for being a noob but i came from android phones with sdcards and this is the first time i had one without a sdcard card slot..
the main question is, if i wipe the device, will the content in the /sdcard folder that i transferred via MTP (photos, music, Nandroid backups, etc) be wipe out as well?
I am asking because I swear the i did a wipe yesterday and ALL the content in the phone is gone, including the things i put in the /sdcard folder...
just need to clarify or maybe i am crazy? Please help..
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Yes, the /sdcard folder actually points to /data/media. Doing a factory restore resets the /data partition, including the contents of /data/media. This means everything put in /sdcard will be erased.
That's stupid. Really stupid. I factory reset my phone all the time... Am I supposed to copy everything back over every time... Eh that would suck.
My transformer and G2x had internal memory and a factory reset from clockworkmod didn't touch the internal storage.
Nvbackups would copy everything though.
-sent from temp HTC Rezound waiting for Galaxy Nexus
player911 said:
That's stupid. Really stupid. I factory reset my phone all the time... Am I supposed to copy everything back over every time... Eh that would suck.
My transformer and G2x had internal memory and a factory reset from clockworkmod didn't touch the internal storage.
Nvbackups would copy everything though.
-sent from temp HTC Rezound waiting for Galaxy Nexus
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Instead of doing a factory reset, you could just delete everything in /data except for /data/media. That will achieve the same thing and leave your media data alone.
Wiping data and cache in CWM do NOT wipe my whole phone what are you guys talking about? The /sdcard is treated and mounted as if it were a physical SD card.
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joshnichols189 said:
Wiping data and cache in CWM do NOT wipe my whole phone what are you guys talking about? The /sdcard is treated and mounted as if it were a physical SD card.
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Hmmmmmmmm.
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joshnichols189 said:
Wiping data and cache in CWM do NOT wipe my whole phone what are you guys talking about? The /sdcard is treated and mounted as if it were a physical SD card.
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Yeah if you just wipe your data/cache via CWM it DOES NOT touch anything in your /sd card. However doing a factory reset via the settings menu while booted does!
RTContent said:
Yeah if you just wipe your data/cache via CWM it DOES NOT touch anything in your /sd card. However doing a factory reset via the settings menu while booted does!
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ok just to be clear, because people (me lol) get confused when people talk about the SD card when talking about the nexus. obviously there isnt one...so im assuming the partition that handles the media is what u refer to as the Sd card...virtual sd card. correct? and if i wipe data/cache via CWM it does NOT wipe my pictures, videos, etc...but if i factory reset under settings while booted...it WILL wipe EVERYTHING...i think i got it now if what i just said was correct...
v2.2v said:
ok just to be clear, because people (me lol) get confused when people talk about the SD card when talking about the nexus. obviously there isnt one...so im assuming the partition that handles the media is what u refer to as the Sd card...virtual sd card. correct? and if i wipe data/cache via CWM it does NOT wipe my pictures, videos, etc...but if i factory reset under settings while booted...it WILL wipe EVERYTHING...i think i got it now if what i just said was correct...
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You got it
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joshnichols189 said:
Wiping data and cache in CWM do NOT wipe my whole phone what are you guys talking about? The /sdcard is treated and mounted as if it were a physical SD card.
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+1.. all these people are thinking the phone doesn't have a "sdcard." There is a "sdcard" but its more like internal storage. Think of it as a computer,
- Older phones like the G1 rely on the SDCard fully... so this is like running a OS off a USB drive without internal storage (G1 has a little internal storage.. not enough to say that there is one)
- Phones such as Galaxy S1/S2 have a sdcard AND internal storage. What does this mean? It's like a internal hard drive with the ability for external storage (flash drive, sd cards).
Example: Galaxy S2 has 16GB internal storage and expandable storage.
Phones like the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, Galaxy Tab is like.... internal hard drives without the ability for expanded storage (unless you USB OTG a flash drive!). This is just a beyond misconception on the scene and this is what they meant by not having a sdcard.
When you do a factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik... your /sdcard/ IS NOT TOUCHED unless you run a script that says otherwise!
/sdcard/ and all the other folders are treated as two separate partitions!
When you unlock your bootloader and it wipes, that deletes everything, including the sdcard folder.
yea i was about to say this is incorrect information, if you want to wipe everything i believe in the ARHD thread there is a wipe script to wipe everything, even data/media
azr3alazd3ycum said:
yea i was about to say this is incorrect information, if you want to wipe everything i believe in the ARHD thread there is a wipe script to wipe everything, even data/media
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Super wipe lite from the ARHD thread does not wipe the virtual SD card.
--- This script will erase and format your system and cache partition using EXT4 file-system ---
--- It will also wipe /data partition, but /data/media (virtual SD card) will be untouched ---
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All your personal files that would be stored in SD Card in other devices which has one, are stored under /data partition, at /data/media/.
The /sdcard/ is just a link to /data/media.
There seems to be special handling in CWM recovery image for Galaxy Nexus when formatting /data partition as it will not touch /data/media. It's nice feature indeed, but you cannot now empty your /data/media content without manual work. But normally you don't even want to do that so it's fine.
It would be much more simple to just forget about the "virtual sd card" or /sdcard, since those are just, well, virtual and makes unnecessary confusion.
So our files are now stored like they would be under C:\Users\media. If you format C-drive, you'll lose your 'personal' files as well from media folder. The "virtual sdcard" /sdcard would be just a similar as Windows has as "Favorite" feature, just a shortcut to a certain folder location.
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Super wipe lite from the ARHD thread does not wipe the virtual SD card.
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I was referring to the full one. Its not out for the nexus yet. He has it for the transformer however.
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hey guys,
found this thread searching for an answer, i'll go ahead and ask it right here as it fits the the topic:
what i want to do when installing another rom is to wipe (system) data, cache and Dalvik cache (and i do not want my private files on the sd card to be touched). it is clear to me that CWM does not touch the sdcard partition. BUT: since all the apps are installed onto the sdcard partition they won't be deleted, right?
i want all my apps to be gone and to have a completely fresh new system installed without ANY leftovers from apps or apps/data or anything else that got stored on the sdcard partition while using the previous rom. of course these apps would not be installed anymore when you boot up the new rom, but all their files and folders would still remain on the sdcard partition, right? i'm talking about all those files that the rom generates itself and stores on the sdcard partition. of course i want to keep all my music, downloads, pictures, etc. but i want everything else to be gone.
to my understanding cwm does not touch the sdcard partition which leaves all the app folders and other android-created-files and folders (that were automatically created when using the previous rom) untouched and i would have to manually look for all these files and delete all these remnants which is kind of annoying.
do you know what i mean?
thx and greetz,
v.
vercetti said:
hey guys,
found this thread searching for an answer, i'll go ahead and ask it right here as it fits the the topic:
what i want to do when installing another rom is to wipe (system) data, cache and Dalvik cache (and i do not want my private files on the sd card to be touched). it is clear to me that CWM does not touch the sdcard partition. BUT: since all the apps are installed onto the sdcard partition they won't be deleted, right?
i want all my apps to be gone and to have a completely fresh new system installed without ANY leftovers from apps or apps/data or anything else that got stored on the sdcard partition while using the previous rom. of course these apps would not be installed anymore when you boot up the new rom, but all their files and folders would still remain on the sdcard partition, right? i'm talking about all those files that the rom generates itself and stores on the sdcard partition. of course i want to keep all my music, downloads, pictures, etc. but i want everything else to be gone.
to my understanding cwm does not touch the sdcard partition which leaves all the app folders and other android-created-files and folders (that were automatically created when using the previous rom) untouched and i would have to manually look for all these files and delete all these remnants which is kind of annoying.
do you know what i mean?
thx and greetz,
v.
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When you clear all your data/cache when installing a new rom it will also wipe apps that have been installed on your sdcard. This does not include removing folders that apps may store additional data on the sdcard. If you want to remove these folders unfortunately you will need to do it manually.
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Installed apps do not go in /data/media, but /data/app and /data/data. I dont think /data/cache exists, /data/dalvik-cache does.
Those are only erased if you do a wipe data/factory reset in cwm/twrp, and for the latter wipe dalvik cache.
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I'm wondering if within it I wiped cache (All by itself, not dalvik) if it would delete all my installed app's or just set them back to default freshly installed as if I'd never opened and set them up yet?
Also I applied this mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2036796 on another rom and later on decided not to use it anymore, but ever since removing it I am always getting on the very root base of the phone
extSdCard (Same as storage/sdcard1 )
sdcard (Same as storage/sdcard0 )
storage / emulated / sdcard0 and sdcard1
Which of those "sdcard0 and sdcard1" is safe to delete? I suspect this is from the mod I had before...
But I wiped my internal storage before flashing PAC-man 4.2.2, but now I keep getting a insufficient storage available on certain apps.and I have 7.19Gb's of space left on the internal sd. So I believe one of those questionable sdcard directories is making stuff go there then thinking I'm out of space of stuff.
Wiping cache would not do any of that to your apps. I'm not sure about your second question. On 4.2.2 roms, sdcard0 is internal and sdcard1 is external
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I'm wondering if within it I wiped cache (All by itself, not dalvik) if it would delete all my installed app's or just set them back to default freshly installed as if I'd never opened and set them up yet?
Also I applied this mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2036796 on another rom and later on decided not to use it anymore, but ever since removing it I am always getting on the very root base of the phone
extSdCard (Same as storage/sdcard1 )
sdcard (Same as storage/sdcard0 )
storage / emulated / sdcard0 and sdcard1
Which of those "sdcard0 and sdcard1" is safe to delete? I suspect this is from the mod I had before...
Ok concerning the sdcard0 folder! If you went back to a TW Rom, and you now have that folder still there! Sdcard0 you can move everything (pictures, etc) from there over to the original sdcard folder. And then you can delete that other folder. And your apps shouldn't say anything about insufficient storage!
Same thing happen to my friend on here. And he had to do the same thing.
Because those 4.2.2.Rom's create, that folder?? and you know that already!!
Hope that helps you...
Just my 2¢®
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Bajanman said:
n1nj4Lo said:
I'm wondering if within it I wiped cache (All by itself, not dalvik) if it would delete all my installed app's or just set them back to default freshly installed as if I'd never opened and set them up yet?
Also I applied this mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2036796 on another rom and later on decided not to use it anymore, but ever since removing it I am always getting on the very root base of the phone
extSdCard (Same as storage/sdcard1 )
sdcard (Same as storage/sdcard0 )
storage / emulated / sdcard0 and sdcard1
Which of those "sdcard0 and sdcard1" is safe to delete? I suspect this is from the mod I had before...
Ok concerning the sdcard0 folder! If you went back to a TW Rom, and you now have that folder still there! Sdcard0 you can move everything (pictures, etc) from there over to the original sdcard folder. And then you can delete that other folder. And your apps shouldn't say anything about insufficient storage!
Same thing happen to my friend on here. And he had to do the same thing.
Because those 4.2.2.Rom's create, that folder?? and you know that already!!
Hope that helps you...
Just my 2¢®
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Do ya mean after I move it I can delete the whole storage folder and everything in it or what? Just clarifying don't wanna mess anything up majorly...
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TWRP Format Data
Ooopsy crapola!!! Accidentally deleted my whole external sd card somehow. When I didn't even touch Wipe - External SD in TWRP...
Trying to hopefully recover all my files on my external sd card with MiniTool Power Data Recovery. -fingers crossed!-
Well now that the external sd card is gone what does Format Data do? Does it just format the internal sd or both external and internal?
Hi
how can i format my Xperia SL internal storage with pc?
rom : official jelly bean 4.1.2
kernel : doom kernel
rootde, busy box and super su installed
try this
if you want to format your internal storage just go to storage in settings then click the clear internal storage
to format via pc , you need a sdcard mounter to mount as usb then you can format (note it can break your sdcard
Envious_Data said:
if you want to format your internal storage just go to storage in settings then click the clear internal storage
to format via pc , you need a sdcard mounter to mount as usb then you can format (note it can break your sdcard
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thanks
and many thanks for the warning :" note it can break your sdcard "
is clearing internal storage with the phone is as effective as formating with pc?
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formatting using your phone settings is more effective that formatting any other way,
phone
its more safer
it formats only /sdcard
using pc
possible chance of wipe your entire phone memory meaning your phone might as well be a dead usb stick
posibility for formatting in the wrong format, rendering your phone semi useless
writing issues if format was sucsessful
recovery format
quick but a tiny bit more unstable then phone formatting
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formatting using your phone settings is more effective that formatting any other way,
phone
its more safer
it formats only /sdcard
using pc
possible chance of wipe your entire phone memory meaning your phone might as well be a dead usb stick
posibility for formatting in the wrong format, rendering your phone semi useless
writing issues if format was sucsessful
recovery format
quick but a tiny bit more unstable then phone formatting[/QUOTE
thanks alot man...you helped alot...
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