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Galaxy Nexus WiFi hotspot working on AT&T w/o tethering plan!

I'm coming from an iPhone 4S and so far I really like the Galaxy Nexus (although it definitely does have its shortcomings compared to the iPhone). I was just playing around in the settings and found Wifi hotspot options. With the iPhone these options never worked unless you paid AT&T extra for a tethering plan (which is not even available when grandfathered into an unlimited plan). I tried turning them on and configuring a PW and lo and behold it worked! I didn't see this mentioned yet and thought others would like to know as well.

Are you rooted and using a custom rom, or still stock?

I'm still stock...just got the device last night. Also still on 4.0.1 and device shows as no updates available.

jmwein said:
I'm still stock...just got the device last night. Also still on 4.0.1 and device shows as no updates available.
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Lol. Will you still be this excited if and when atnt switches you to a tethering plan?
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I almost never use tethering but the few times I'm traveling it will be very beneficial. I highly doubt AT&T would switch me to a tethering plan if I use less than 1 GB of tethering per yr!

jmwein said:
I almost never use tethering but the few times I'm traveling it will be very beneficial. I highly doubt AT&T would switch me to a tethering plan if I use less than 1 GB of tethering per yr!
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You bought an unlocked phone not associated with AT&T. As a result, the tethering features built into android are not blocked. This is one of my favorite feature of my Nexus One.
I tether all the time and us ~1.5GB of data a month. Although, I have gone as high as 3GB... (I have unlimited data)
Enjoy!

NPuter said:
You bought an unlocked phone not associated with AT&T. As a result, the tethering features built into android are not blocked. This is one of my favorite feature of my Nexus One.
I tether all the time and us ~1.5GB of data a month. Although, I have gone as high as 3GB... (I have unlimited data)
Enjoy!
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Good to know! Thanks!
Although I do own the unlocked version of the iPhone 4S and even that phone has the tethering options blocked.

jmwein said:
Good to know! Thanks!
Although I do own the unlocked version of the iPhone 4S and even that phone has the tethering options blocked.
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Welcome to Android

NPuter said:
You bought an unlocked phone not associated with AT&T. As a result, the tethering features built into android are not blocked. This is one of my favorite feature of my Nexus One.
I tether all the time and us ~1.5GB of data a month. Although, I have gone as high as 3GB... (I have unlimited data)
Enjoy!
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Precisely...rooting or custom roms have nothing to do with this. Att effectively has no control over how you use your phone or data in this case.
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jmwein said:
I'm coming from an iPhone 4S and so far I really like the Galaxy Nexus (although it definitely does have its shortcomings compared to the iPhone). I was just playing around in the settings and found Wifi hotspot options. With the iPhone these options never worked unless you paid AT&T extra for a tethering plan (which is not even available when grandfathered into an unlimited plan). I tried turning them on and configuring a PW and lo and behold it worked! I didn't see this mentioned yet and thought others would like to know as well.
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Uhh we knew this. Unlocked phone man. It just works. This is how phones are meant to be.
The iPhone is provisioned by AT&T and its IMEI's are known in AT&T's database. So they're able to block and charge for ridiculous services like tethering.

I have tried this out and it works. Is there anyway for AT&T to tell if we are tethering though? Should I be on a tethering apn?

rjstang said:
I have tried this out and it works. Is there anyway for AT&T to tell if we are tethering though? Should I be on a tethering apn?
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I've used tethering on my N1 for the past two years. Generally, I use around 1.5gb/month... No problem so far *knock on wood*.

was working - not now
yip have been using wifi hotspot for some time now
on my old SG1 and then on my Nexus
I has however stopped working recently, and cant see why
the app appears to be working but the wifi network is never discoverable
if anyone has a fix could you let me know
thanks in advance
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Lol they know when your using it tho... with my Nexus one I was sent a text message saying my plan will change if I continue with tethering... I got out of unlimited last month and its the best thing I could have done... unlimited Mobile to Mobile (Verizon Sprint and T-Mobile) but 700 minutes for land lines. . Unlimited text and 5GB a Month... I hate being throttled so the switch was made. I'm paying less then when I was unlimited =]
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for those having isues with tethering on android phones becauseits a att phone try foxfi app right on the market is great.....i dont have att but i passed the info to a friend of mine and now she is tethering for free

Is the built-in wifi hotspot trackable by Verizon in AOSP ROMs?

Or do I need to use Android Wifi Tether for my tethering needs?
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TheBiles said:
Or do I need to use Android Wifi Tether for my tethering needs?
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I haven't used the built-in so can't answer but just wanted to chime in with THWG!
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Bump... also, really? No answers?
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Yes. Doesn't it redirect ?
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I'm not going to give you a 100% sure answer but here's my interpretation.
The built in wifi tether on CM or AOSP ROMs should be just as traceable as using Wifi Tether as in, they could monitor your data usage and see large usage or large spikes in data flow, however this is highly unlikely unless you're one of those people that use 30GB a month.
From what I've seen with the built in wifi tether for the stock Verizon LTE GN when you click turn on the hotspot it goes through a validation / verification thing in which it communicates with Verizon and starts some log of data, when you turn it off it appears to then give that information back to Verizon to say the connection is closed. As the built in one on custom roms doesn't do this it should be just as in the clear as wifi tether.
Again, not 100% sure but I'm just using built in on CM these days.

It doesn't even have to be spikes in data.. they can see what type of device the data is being sent to/from. However, they never said a thing when I tethered my Thunderbolt. The spikes in data is what causes them to investigate.
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Short Answer: They could, but won't unless you become a problem for them.
Long Answer: Tethering goes through the same APN as cellular usage, which is why they have the phone-home feature on stock. They really can't tell without packet sniffing to figure out specifically what usage came from what device. That is a lot of work, but even more importantly, is that they need a man-in-the-loop to 1) maintain the automated systems. 2) deal with customer service issues arising from people that have been billed for off-plan usage.
If you don't know why #2 is so important, think about how much it costs when an angry customer calls in and takes up and hour of a rep and his manager's time. You could be looking at $20 of wages wasted trying to wrange $10-20 out of a customer. That's in addition to building the servers to handle the data, and the network infrastructure to sniff the packets.
It's just not worth it, unless someone is downing 20GB on 3G, or 50GB on LTE. It's even less worth it now that everyone is moving away from unlimted data plans (for now, just like voice, it will come back when the technology outpaces the demand). Why sniff packets, when the network hogs will just roll into overage charges anyway? Expect the tethering plans to dissappear in the next few years.

[Q] Question about TMobiles new Unlimited 4G plan (Tethering)

Unlimited 4G data on T-Mobile network for accessing the web, streaming music and HD video, and downloading cool apps—as much as you want. No limits and no overages - 89.99$ a month.
Which for me is only about 5$ more. So it says its not compatible with "Smartphone Mobile Hotspot" Now I assume thats the built in stock option they lock down.. So question is, how does this effect our rooted ways of tethering and wifi hotspot making. Has anyone tried yet? Or have info about this? Thanks.

with that plan you will not be able to tether as for as i know,can they stop you?that i don't know.can they tell? not really sure,but in the past talking to tmobile they can basically tell how much you use is by there a difference in using your phone and tethering...when you tether,there more data usage....but i have the 10 gb data plan which include free tether,also if you get the 5gb plan,that also comes with free tethering...

Well I have the 2GB one atm for the cost (which is still unlimited, just slows down) but yea, orig.. they never had an app for tethering. Seems the S3 has a T-Mobile made app for tethering (Stock rom app) So Id assume using our normal root wifi tether apps.. we should be ok. Like you said, they might know the diff in the bandwidth, then again might not.. Netflix and MobiTV alone can take up alot. Not to mention Youtube in HD. I may have to try this and see what happens. Unless someone has the new plan already. I mean unlimited 4G.. True unlimited.. thats not bad at all.

I know I'm loving T-Mobile right now I'm streaming radio for a whole shift at work downloading roms and all kinds of WiFi stuff.and get this I was already was paying for the 5g data plan so when I called for them to switch me over to the unlimited 4g plan I actually saved $5 off my bill and cause I was throttled by the 5th of September it brought me right out of edge. And yes the t mobile hotspot app redirects any device connected to some T-Mobile web page. But we are good with hotspot app from the play store
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Rooted tethering still works.
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joshnichols189 said:
Rooted tethering still works.
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Thanks! Great to know. I think paying 10$ more a month for the "ability" (even if not used) for TRUE unlimited is worth it. Lock in and grandfather before they change their mind. Mobile Netflix + Hdmi = Win for one example of travel use.
Do have one stupid question. Anyone know on the Official hotspot app use. If all ports are enabled? Or is it still 80 and 8080 only? Thats the only thing I could see a different on. TMO hotspot might give you more ports access. However I am unsure.

I highly doubt the T-Mobile hotspot is any better than something you can find in the market And if it's just hotspot through the settings, it's the exact same thing.

Tho if I am not mistaken... Wasnt most of the rooted wifi tether apps an "Ad-Hoc" connection vs "Infrastructure" mode? Granted computers and ios seem to handle that fine. However items like PSP, DS, and other consoles didnt like ad-hoc internet connections. Or is that different now? (I ask cause my tablet seems to host in infrastructure mode, while my G1 on its tether app did like an adhoc form)

tmobile true unlimited data + tether?

i have verizon unlimited 4g, and i use about 30GB of data a month (no tether plan) per month, im always on the go so i dont have internet @ home as it would be pointless. Tmobile HSPA+ pulled 20mbps on a speed test here in South FL - my ? is... i know by changing usragent on browser that i can tether BUT will torrents and all that still work? streaming? can i still tether to tablets? will TMO go crazy with all that data? Verizon doesnt say a word to me but i want a new phone and if i upgrade ill lose unlimited....
thanks !

Buy the phone off contract from Verizon.
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amendolaro1 said:
i have verizon unlimited 4g, and i use about 30GB of data a month (no tether plan) per month, im always on the go so i dont have internet @ home as it would be pointless. Tmobile HSPA+ pulled 20mbps on a speed test here in South FL - my ? is... i know by changing usragent on browser that i can tether BUT will torrents and all that still work? streaming? can i still tether to tablets? will TMO go crazy with all that data? Verizon doesnt say a word to me but i want a new phone and if i upgrade ill lose unlimited....
thanks !
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Tethering does NOT work with the unlimited plan,
You might be able to get it to work with some 3rd party apps, but only on ICS currently and not JB leaks. You can also pay for tethering on the limited plans, but I would try some of the procedures covered in other tethering threads.

joshnichols189 said:
Buy the phone off contract from Verizon.
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Pretty much this. Buy a new phone off ebay or lightly used if you want to save money.
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There are some 3rd party apps that supposedly work, but believe they require root.
I just switched and still use my tablet, just download stuff more so at home on wifi before I leave out for work. 5g I was going through quick and got tired of getting throttled!
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G3 Hotspot.

Has anyone had any experience with the G3's hotspot rooted or non-rooted? Any experience with signals or stability would be greatly appreciated.
A little sob story background: I live in a neighborhood that the Teleco companies have completely neglected. Even though I live in america I only have dial up. Our phones get the very Edge of sprint's LTE network but I'm running a Galaxy S2 with Wimax (which wonderful sprint discontinued a month after I bought the phone) So our only means of internet is a 3G and what little LTE my family can pick up with their various phones. I'm a gamer so I'd like to be brought into the highspeed age finally. Hotspot reliability will make or break buying the LG G3 and I'd love to get a little feedback of what to expect.
Thanks!

Osseon said:
Has anyone had any experience with the G3's hotspot rooted or non-rooted? Any experience with signals or stability would be greatly appreciated.
A little sob story background: I live in a neighborhood that the Teleco companies have completely neglected. Even though I live in america I only have dial up. Our phones get the very Edge of sprint's LTE network but I'm running a Galaxy S2 with Wimax (which wonderful sprint discontinued a month after I bought the phone) So our only means of internet is a 3G and what little LTE my family can pick up with their various phones. I'm a gamer so I'd like to be brought into the highspeed age finally. Hotspot reliability will make or break buying the LG G3 and I'd love to get a little feedback of what to expect.
Thanks!
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Works just the same as any other device for me, been using it a lot for my chromebook had no dropouts or issues.

Would I be able to use this phone as a hotspot out of the box like I can with my Nexus 5 or would I have to go through my carrier for that? I use my Nexus 5 as a hotspot for my Nexus 7 when I'm out and about. I wouldn't want to have to start paying monthly for that function.

partylikeaninjastar said:
Would I be able to use this phone as a hotspot out of the box like I can with my Nexus 5 or would I have to go through my carrier for that? I use my Nexus 5 as a hotspot for my Nexus 7 when I'm out and about. I wouldn't want to have to start paying monthly for that function.
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Should work out of the box like any android phone

Are you Verizon unlimited, and that's why you're asking? If you just need something, what about FreedomPop? I know, I know - sleazy company - but they're wedded to Sprint's LTE/WiMax exsting network (if you're close), and you might be able to rig an antenna/amp to pull in that LTE. It's what I do to get V (and formerly AT&T) in my basement.
I'm keeping an eye on this thread, too, as I'm curious. I've got a JB iPhone to get the hotspot and keep my unlimited. I actually use the hotspot about once every 2-3 months, and usually for less than 1/4 of my phone-only data, so it galls me to consider adding ~$500/yr for those couple times I need a sip of data when I'm on the road. I'll be switching to the G3 as soon as its released, and seeing how it's like on the android side of things.

Protagoras said:
Should work out of the box like any android phone
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But does every phone work out of the box with tethering? I'm on T-Mobile with an older unlimited data plan, if that helps.
Coming from a Nexus 4 and 5, tethering was always an option in the settings. My concern is whether or not it's still an option in a skinned version of Android or will I need to add tethering to my plan and use a T-Mobile branded app?

partylikeaninjastar said:
But does every phone work out of the box with tethering? I'm on T-Mobile with an older unlimited data plan, if that helps.
Coming from a Nexus 4 and 5, tethering was always an option in the settings. My concern is whether or not it's still an option in a skinned version of Android or will I need to add tethering to my plan and use a T-Mobile branded app?
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Some of T-Mobile's older unlimited plans don't like you using wifi tethering. I'm on an older unlimited and once in a while I get a webpage telling me to upgrade my plan. I'm currently using an HTC Sensation though and thinking of getting the G3.

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Are you Verizon unlimited, and that's why you're asking? If you just need something, what about FreedomPop? I know, I know - sleazy company - but they're wedded to Sprint's LTE/WiMax exsting network (if you're close), and you might be able to rig an antenna/amp to pull in that LTE. It's what I do to get V (and formerly AT&T) in my basement.
I'm keeping an eye on this thread, too, as I'm curious. I've got a JB iPhone to get the hotspot and keep my unlimited. I actually use the hotspot about once every 2-3 months, and usually for less than 1/4 of my phone-only data, so it galls me to consider adding ~$500/yr for those couple times I need a sip of data when I'm on the road. I'll be switching to the G3 as soon as its released, and seeing how it's like on the android side of things.
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Does freedom pop have true unlimited? No hidden data charges and all the data I can handle? I've used about 30gb in the last month on my 3G connection and probably another 20GB in the last 4 days on my mother's LTE. This is using Sprint's unlimited data plan. I burn through the GB and 5-10gb a month just wouldn't do.
EDIT: Just checked and no Freedom pop doesn't Calculating the data charges for my current useage would cost me about $2000 a month. No thanks.

sykozylot said:
Some of T-Mobile's older unlimited plans don't like you using wifi tethering. I'm on an older unlimited and once in a while I get a webpage telling me to upgrade my plan. I'm currently using an HTC Sensation though and thinking of getting the G3.
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This is why I need to know how native tethering works on a G3.

Tethering is the same as any other android phone. The G3 supports wifi, blue tooth and USB tethering. How this works with US versions of the phone I dont know. In the UK tethering is monitored and controlled by the network not the phone, so the phone still has the capability. If you have a plan that allows tethering, and you dont have a crippled version of the phone there's no difference, its just like any other android phone.

Dubhar said:
Tethering is the same as any other android phone. The G3 supports wifi, blue tooth and USB tethering. How this works with US versions of the phone I dont know. In the UK tethering is monitored and controlled by the network not the phone, so the phone still has the capability. If you have a plan that allows tethering, and you dont have a crippled version of the phone there's no difference, its just like any other android phone.
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So you're saying the ability to turn the G3 into a hotspot can be found in the settings menu?

partylikeaninjastar said:
So you're saying the ability to turn the G3 into a hotspot can be found in the settings menu?
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What provider are you using?

partylikeaninjastar said:
So you're saying the ability to turn the G3 into a hotspot can be found in the settings menu?
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Unless your using some carried modified version of the G3 it should be under the settings menu as "tethering & networks"

partylikeaninjastar said:
So you're saying the ability to turn the G3 into a hotspot can be found in the settings menu?
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Yes, that's correct.

Osseon said:
Does freedom pop have true unlimited? No hidden data charges and all the data I can handle? I've used about 30gb in the last month on my 3G connection and probably another 20GB in the last 4 days on my mother's LTE. This is using Sprint's unlimited data plan. I burn through the GB and 5-10gb a month just wouldn't do.
EDIT: Just checked and no Freedom pop doesn't Calculating the data charges for my current useage would cost me about $2000 a month. No thanks.
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Damn, that's serious (mobile) data! No, FP would be just to get you connected, not an all-you-can-eat buffet. (I used it as backup on the road, but their coverage around me sucked)